Low Hanging Fruit

[TheMajor]

Dumb question, probably been answered but search turned up nothing (or I am doing a search on the wrong words)...

Anyhow - on the Low Hanging Fruit page (which I am about to set to my homepage I love it!!!) is there any way to exclude badges which are totally unobtainable?  I don't even mean the ones that require a holiday really, just the ones that are impossible to get anymore ever again.  Or maybe an option to turn off individual badges?

I know it would be an insane query to try and get that working, and would add a million tables but I am just hoping that maybe there is something like this already there and I'm not seeing it?  Or that I am mistaken and it would be a snap?

[SuckerPunch]

No, that doesn't currently exist. I'll add it to the "to-do" list but I can't guarantee when it'll make it in. 

[TheMajor]

Not a huge thing, and the amount of work to get it in I am sure would not be worth the return.

I can just cross them off a printout.   

[Tazhyngarth]

That specific Low Hanging Fruit item is already on the Tracking List, we had it around from our old CIT.  I cannot recall if it ever made it in then, but we re-instated the Ticket just a few days ago so we won't miss it.

[TheMajor]

It's such an awesome feature, it's like oh, look almost 15k people did the Gears one.. wtf why don't I have it already! *goes on a clockwork murdering spree* 

[gothess]

It's such an awesome feature, it's like oh, look almost 15k people did the Gears one.. wtf why don't I have it already! *goes on a clockwork murdering spree* 

Yup, that's why I LOVE it, too!

[Chilling Temper]

I love this feature but I do have a request for a change on it.

Can you remove the one time only badges from it? Like the anniversary badges, the veteran badges, and the extra purchase badges (VIP, Pocket D VIP). Since these badges are obtainable through actions solely in-game?

Thanks.

[Tazhyngarth]

Essentially, the Veteran Badges will be obtained, so long as one continues to play the game.  Therefore, it's rightfully in it's place on the LHF.  As for the Purchase Badges, well, those too can still be obtained, technically.  I see the questionableness in those Badges, but the Vet items are were they should be.

We'll have another discussion on this and based on those results, we'll alter the LHF accordingly.

[SuckerPunch]

I think Mav was working on that. The issue is we need an additional flag on the seasonal or one-time only badges, since they're lumped in with other badge types.

If anyone wants to take the time and compile a list of badges that are like this, i could filter them out.

[TheMajor]

Sure, I'll do it.    Give me a bit.

[Chilling Temper]

Essentially, the Veteran Badges will be obtained, so long as one continues to play the game.  Therefore, it's rightfully in it's place on the LHF.  As for the Purchase Badges, well, those too can still be obtained, technically.  I see the questionableness in those Badges, but the Vet items are were they should be.

We'll have another discussion on this and based on those results, we'll alter the LHF accordingly.

It's not that they can be obtained. It's that they can't be obtained by doing anything in-game. Which in my opinion doesn't make them low-hanging. As for veteran badges, they can only be obtained by paying for game time which again means that they can't be obtained in-game.

As for the list of badges.

One-time only
Celebrant
Reveler
Merrymaker
Entertainer
Pursuer/Elusive

Paid Extras
V.I.P./Destined One
Pocket D VIP Gold Club Member

[TheMajor]

I know I am missing some, I hope someone sees this and fills in.

Keep in mind, some of these have specific dates on them, but I don't know if they pop back up when the holiday comes back around... such as #s 155, 156, 157... has anyone obtained those since 2006?

One Time only:
408 - Partygoer
155 - Longbow Reservist / Jet-Setter
156 - Holiday Spirit / Scrooge
157 - Toy Collector
209 - Heart of Light / Heart of Darkness
219 - Reveler
302 - Pursuer / Elusive
488 - Merrymaker
636 - Entertainer
888 - Celebrant


Holiday:
403 - Trucker
212 - Handsome / Beautiful
213 - Toothbreaker
300 - Ghost Touched
301 - Iron Warrior
389 - Miraculous
390 - Joyful
391 - Frosty
392 - Crystallized
393 - Cold Front
513 - Clothes Horse
514 - Fashionable
515 - Ostentatious
631 - Gifted
700 - Cold Warrior
701 - Frozen Fury
709 - Hallow Spirit
710 - Hunter
711 - Buster
712 - Shifter
713 - Dead Head
714 - Malleus


Unobtainable at the moment:
45 - Power Liberator / Master Thief

This one is broke because SG/VG raiding is turned off.

Knew I forgot at least one, Trucker - can't get out there now.

[Tazhyngarth]

Chilling Temper, I understand where you're coming from with that reasoning, which is one of the things we've discussed about in the past.  Valid Justification, however one term to describe the LHF's purpose is that it's composed of Badges that are easy to get for that specific character.  Ergo, Vet Badges are amongst the easiest to obtain....so it's a sort of double-edged sword if you will.

TheMajor, I believe the Event Badges are perminent, the Text changes per year (if any specific timeline is mentioned) but the Badges themselves are the same.  The Yearly Anniversary Badges are a one time deal, those should not be on the List once that time has passed.  The Group Badge may or may not make its triumphant return with I13....since that's meant to be a Group related Issue to an extent, perhaps the Devs will get Raids working again....however, I do see that it isn't exactly fitting for the List.

[SuckerPunch]

I see the LHF report being a list of actionable badges - meaning it's something you can log on and DO SOMETHING to obtain. 

So on that note, I agree with Vet badges being filtered. There's nothing you can do to obtain those other than just wait out your subscription fee.

Anything like veteran badges, holiday badges, the annual badges, etc, aren't anything someone has control over.  So they take up possibly valuable space on the list where other badges YOU can work towards are omitted.

[TheMajor]

Probably been hashed to death, but yeah.  I want to look at that list and see what I can do right now toward earning more badges.

However, I also don't want to make your lives more difficult in maintaining a list of, oh turn on the halloween ones, oh turn em off now, ok now turn on the winter ones, ok now off, ok now valentines etc etc

And yes, I did buy the collectors editions of CoH and CoV just to get the badges.    Actually I like smacking around the Statesman HeroClix(tm) too. Buwhaha