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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2013, 06:48:32 PM »
Yeah, that is what really stung - and still stings - about the closing.

August 27: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 28: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 29: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 30: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 31: We're closing the game!  All the developers are fired, so Issue 24 is never coming out! We're not having a special End-Of-Game event to tie up loose ends, we're just going to ignominiously flip a switch in three months! Go away now!  B'bye!

The game went from having a bright future with years of promised content ahead to completely dead.  And then NCSoft refused to sell, refused to even talk further about selling, set our CoH accounts inactive (another blow out of nowhere), and has been ignoring us ever since.

Yes, I'm still extremely angry, and no amount of hemming and hawing about profits or licenses will make me less angry.  I want our game back.
You forgot a line:

August 27: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 28: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 29: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 30: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 31: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle! Oh, wait, no! We're closing the game!  All the developers are fired, so Issue 24 is never coming out! We're not having a special End-Of-Game event to tie up loose ends, we're just going to ignominiously flip a switch in three months! Go away now!  B'bye!


They literally did an I24 teaser the morning of August 31st. pancake you guys, NCsoft. That's terrible timing!!
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2013, 06:57:57 PM »
They literally did an I24 teaser the morning of August 31st. pancake you guys, NCsoft. That's terrible, and you're terrible for doing that to us!

Fixed that for you.

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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2013, 07:50:10 PM »
You forgot a line:

August 27: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 28: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 29: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 30: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle!
August 31: Issue 24 is coming soon!  Here's another little morsel of information to whet your whistle! Oh, wait, no! We're closing the game!  All the developers are fired, so Issue 24 is never coming out! We're not having a special End-Of-Game event to tie up loose ends, we're just going to ignominiously flip a switch in three months! Go away now!  B'bye!


They literally did an I24 teaser the morning of August 31st. pancake you guys, NCsoft. That's terrible timing!!

I understand that games shut down eventually. But all of that (that was quoted) is the reason that I don't trust NCSoft to competently run a game anymore. If Paragon Studios (not CoX) was doing so badly financially, that it had to be shut down, that all falls back onto NCSoft. They're the ones that gave the go-ahead for the projects that Paragon Studios was working on.

I have yet to pick up another NCSoft title. The only one that I would even think about is CoX, on the off chance that they saw how fundamentally stupid they've been and re-open the game.
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2013, 07:58:36 PM »
"Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on."

Originally I was furious with NCSOFT because I thought they pulled a DM rage quit "rocks fall, everyone dies" on Paragon and the game.  Now that we know at least the senior management knew about it for weeks if not months I'm just angry at NCSOFT for not letting PS buy out the game and studio.  I know it's a minor difference in the end.

Would I want to have known the end was possibly near?  Yes but I understand how that would have killed the game on the spot with new players.  So they put on a brave face and kept us excited in hopes for a miracle that never came.  And that did sort of made it worse than if the news came right after a major update.  It's like getting excited about your first bicycle you are getting for your birthday only to have your house burn down the night before.
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2013, 12:39:31 AM »
"Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on."
Nice quote there. :)

Would I want to have known the end was possibly near?  Yes but I understand how that would have killed the game on the spot with new players.  So they put on a brave face and kept us excited in hopes for a miracle that never came.  And that did sort of made it worse than if the news came right after a major update.  It's like getting excited about your first bicycle you are getting for your birthday only to have your house burn down the night before.
If the game was going to "die" anyway, why not let everyone know about it? It wouldn't have made a single bit of difference if they had told us two weeks or two month earlier. Except, maybe make NCSoft look even worse to the MMO community when they(NCSoft) refused to negotiate with anyone wanting to purchase the IP.
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2013, 05:47:05 AM »
Nice quote there. :)
If the game was going to "die" anyway, why not let everyone know about it? It wouldn't have made a single bit of difference if they had told us two weeks or two month earlier. Except, maybe make NCSoft look even worse to the MMO community when they(NCSoft) refused to negotiate with anyone wanting to purchase the IP.

Because if they wanted to show their masters that the game is attracting new players due to it's F2P status telling the world it's on the verge of shutting down is one way to keep new blood away.  The constant "look what's coming in Issue 24" also generated stories at MMO game sites which could draw in new blood.

And if the miracle did happen and the game was saved, you wouldn't want the news of it's potential closure to linger in the blogosphere.  "Oh I heard CoH closed down, you mean it didn't?  Well that's a shame because I'm now too caught up in fantasy genre MMO #23 to give it a try."
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2013, 11:45:57 AM »
Because if they wanted to show their masters that the game is attracting new players due to it's F2P status telling the world it's on the verge of shutting down is one way to keep new blood away.  The constant "look what's coming in Issue 24" also generated stories at MMO game sites which could draw in new blood.
Which wouldn't have had any affect on whether the game closed or not because NCSoft had already made its decision on the matter. So, all of the hype for Issue 24 could have been construed as false advertising for the new comer that just got the game.

And if the miracle did happen and the game was saved, you wouldn't want the news of it's potential closure to linger in the blogosphere.  "Oh I heard CoH closed down, you mean it didn't?  Well that's a shame because I'm now too caught up in fantasy genre MMO #23 to give it a try."
If that's the case, then we should all just give up on any efforts to bring back any semblance of the game (Not that I'm condoning that we do so). because the game was shut down and any successor will have to deal with "Oh I heard CoH closed down.  Well that's a shame because I'm now too caught up in fantasy genre MMO #23 to give its successor a try." The only way we could have hooked them into trying the successor would have been to have the successor ready for launch on Dec 1st 2012.

Having been on the short end of the stick concerning short notice terminations (on more than one occasion), I prefer having a little more notice. Keeping decisions like that a secret for weeks or months (although, I can understand the Paragon folks having to deal with NDAs and confidences) shows a profound lack of respect for the customers and employees. Of course, NCSoft has continued to show their lack of respect towards the CoX community(as well as Tabula Rasa, Exsteel, Auto Assualt, etc.) by not selling the IP to someone who would give it the care and attention that it deserves. No surprise there.
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2013, 05:03:18 AM »
We all talk about how NcShaft is throwing away money ever since the game closed and the IP is locked away in their vault.  The decision was made quite some time before anyone outside their corporate "outhouse" knew.  They simply needed the distraction of the holiday to be a diversion.  They made what money they could off of us in the meantime.  Shoddy business model, but financially a smart (underhanded) move.  I would not have and did not spend a dime more on those pancakes (edited myself there)  from the moment a shut down was so much as a whisper.
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2013, 06:26:04 AM »
We all talk about how NcShaft...

Haha, that's the best one (NC jokes) i've heard yet!

:D calling them that from now on.
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2013, 11:37:37 PM »
I'm rather fond of NCLimp myself.
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2013, 08:16:45 AM »
NCflacid?

sounds like a rapper with a personal problem
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2013, 05:51:39 AM »
LOLOL....darn it, now I have an image in my head...
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2013, 08:32:11 AM »
NCflacid?

sounds like a rapper with a personal problem

That rapper wouldn't be any good live.  He probably would give a terrible performance!

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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2013, 10:08:02 PM »
Well, he might just win a Viagrammy for his performance.....
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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2013, 03:38:28 AM »
Well, he might just win a Viagrammy for his performance.....

He almost did once. But the concert lasted longer than four hours and he had to seek medical attention.

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Re: Just going to throw this out there...
« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2013, 08:03:30 AM »
sorry that he had such a hard time.....


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