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City of Heroes => Builds => Tanker => Topic started by: Ankhammon on August 19, 2014, 03:53:36 AM

Title: I was recently reminded...
Post by: Ankhammon on August 19, 2014, 03:53:36 AM
of how much HP an AV regenerates, about 95 HP/sec at level 50.

Keeping that in mind, I decided to try something in mids for a tanker. I was only running for HP/sec regained and it's an extreme example.
This is not even close to a final build as I never looked at damage/acc/rech or any other facet other than heal/sec gained.

That being said how does 407.8 HP/Sec regained sound? To put it another way, that's 2500% regen with 3419 HP in the tank... so to speak. I  also added in the HP/Sec gained from spamming Siphon Life. 

This is a Bio/DM tank.

I don't know of a character in the game that can achieve those kinds of numbers except possibly a regen/DM tank. and they don't have access to all of the other types of mitigation that this combo has. To list them briefly it has -tohit, -Dam, Absorb, -Regen, Defense, Resists and Fear.

Thought someone might want to take a look at this partial build just to see the numbers. I thought it was very strange.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.96
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build! (http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1530&c=686&a=1372&f=HEX&dc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

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Bio Armor
Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(33), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(34)
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/Dmg(11), P'ngS'Fest-Stun%(40), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 2: Inexhaustible -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal(7), Heal-I(7)
Level 4: Environmental Modification -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(34), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 6: Adaptation
Level 8: Ablative Carapace -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(9), Heal-I(9)
Level 10: Smite -- SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg(A), SMotTanker-Dmg/Rchg(13), SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), P'ngS'Fest-Stun%(42), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(42)
Level 12: Evolving Armor -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(31), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(31)
Level 14: Shadow Maul -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(15), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(15), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17)
Level 16: Taunt -- Annoy-Taunt(A), Annoy-Taunt/Rchg(27)
Level 18: DNA Siphon -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(19), Nictus-Acc/Heal(19), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(48)
Level 20: Siphon Life -- Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(A), Nictus-Acc/Heal(21), Nictus-Heal(21), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(23)
Level 22: Touch of Fear -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/Rchg(23)
Level 24: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(37), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(37)
Level 26: Genetic Contamination -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(31), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(36), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(29), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(29), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 32: Parasitic Aura -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(33), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(33), Nictus-Acc/Heal(46)
Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Erad-Dmg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(43), Erad-Acc/Rchg(43), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(43), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- GS-Acc/Dmg(A), GS-Dam/Rech(39), P'ngS'Fest-Stun%(39), GS-Dam/End/Rech(42), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Laser Beam Eyes -- Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(45), Apoc-Dmg(45), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(46)
Level 47: Physical Perfection -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(48), Heal-I(48)
Level 49: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(A), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(50), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), RgnTis-Regen+(3), Numna-Heal(3), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(5), Heal-I(5)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EnManip-EndMod/Rchg(A), EnManip-EndMod(17)
Level 6: Defensive Adaptation
Level 6: Efficient Adaptation
Level 6: Offensive Adaptation
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Vigor Core Paragon
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Title: Re: I was recently reminded...
Post by: HEATSTROKE on August 20, 2014, 02:18:41 AM
 I have found that I can make any tank pretty darn near impossible to kill under regular circumstances and even some pretty serious ones..
Title: Re: I was recently reminded...
Post by: Ankhammon on August 20, 2014, 05:04:19 PM
I have found that I can make any tank pretty darn near impossible to kill under regular circumstances and even some pretty serious ones..

true enough. I was just playin around and saw those numbers and was quite surprised. Particularly self capping regen on a tanker.
Title: Re: I was recently reminded...
Post by: Angel Phoenix77 on August 25, 2014, 11:58:22 AM
I have found that I can make any tank pretty darn near impossible to kill under regular circumstances and even some pretty serious ones..
does that count for fire tanks? I heard they were abit more squishy when compared to the other primary defense powers.
Title: Re: I was recently reminded...
Post by: Ankhammon on January 01, 2015, 05:38:54 PM
does that count for fire tanks? I heard they were abit more squishy when compared to the other primary defense powers.

Never saw you're response here so sorry for the lateness.

Yes, even a fire/ tank can be made really resilient with IO builds. You can get significant defenses (near capped s/l) to add to good resists and the self heal can be up ridiculously fast.

Did a quick look in the old forums and saw this build by LSK which can show you what's possible... but I would have put in RotP in the build personally.
 
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.96
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build! (http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1522&c=749&a=1498&f=HEX&dc=78DA6594CB52134114867B663A8409E1120224E1923B040204A2EE2D4B8452A12A21E8CE4A8DD8404A0831C12A59FA0A2E74A14B2D776EBC6DD5F2F20296E2E50954D4A5BBF19F3927182B53957CDD67FEEEFECFE993ACDC58F03F5ABA795268FED3DB56A3515EB3AA5755DD5B5AAFA8EABA1278CC256B67C7DAD8AF2B2F6611129417D486AA36546EB1A2EAFBE553D7EB5698DFACA86DD58CBBE3C0D9EA96AAABEA5EAE39F0177677B773CBCAAA55AA9B3E7752AA2975A5DB1D2E5636B7F6F0E2FF59E04CADB29E2BC04679C56AEC61F730EC64F17969E24B73ACDA1E11C5202E851E039360024C4921E3605A8AD1103826452A4C0CF8043FB6210AC25D238B604C8A8E559A7794C011295E997C0CB45A11A3BC149DAB445F89B906CE4A11C4BE066975E3BBEE9EE53F24F6FC200EA19E1EF26D7806697DDF7983D847F3D93FC2D5BEC0D95ED24AEF17C38D757E26F67F621ED0DA810F347F8D35A6EBD8D6CD6F7CA673F628C85EDE40D3C5FB7671ED7A9CDA65A408C789C30962EA18ED9F82EF6ECA4DEB1E41CC84CFAF3A9D8DBC7BE99DA7B7CAB15D62B8469CB846CCD489D906F12DBC04B86601F61BE55A45D9AF86B3837C0741E77E82F0C7F7365A22468B4403DA41AEEF6094FA21CE7D91483093D41712DA1069F510D73E11A4BB4C399B84A578077F11CE3B320DE44D9176294508798FB0F711F69E66EF69F63E04CD18AF1FBB8B58D014D97BBA9B433FDEC538AF18E713E7FE8B735E79CE2B0C6D92B549D64E14A94F32BC26C36B22D08EB3769CB553BCCF94A34D80AC75DA679273987C0F5FFDB89B8FE080143307E090144EAB4DB366FA3EE53EF380F990E8B4658E3432F79862734F984F89F967CCE7C424EA3F4FF517F35C53B469F3B7499086986F8DD978C4725BA4208F7EA742732387A882C6BB6BB3B4FBCFD6D824C57EFD8BE9DA39BA75FF05EA86898BC4DFAD9A5BA8CA0CBAFF3675F0DC1D7018159547FF4876B6CD5FBE2D72BC2D72A22D62F61DFDA3D89D211CC7FB177CCDFAD8F6A596B1D532BEDC32FE0BE1E3EA74)

Gammafyre: Level 50 Science Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(5), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(29), S'fstPrt-ResKB(36)
Level 1: Scorch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 2: Healing Flames -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Numna-Heal/Rchg(11), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Combustion -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), SW-ResDam/Re TP(17), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(17), Krma-ResKB(46)
Level 8: Blazing Aura -- SMotTanker-Rchg/Res%(A), SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SMotTanker-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg(21)
Level 10: Consume -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 12: Plasma Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(15), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(25), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), GA-3defTpProc(36)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Winter-ResSlow(A), Zephyr-ResKB(46)
Level 16: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(21), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(25), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(39), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(40), Zinger-Dam%(43)
Level 18: Burn -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 20: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(A), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 22: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(33), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RctvArm-ResDam(34)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), LkGmblr-Rchg+(36)
Level 26: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 30: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(43)
Level 32: Fire Sword -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 35: Incinerate -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(45)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(50), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(13), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(39)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(46), P'Shift-End%(48)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Resilient Total Core Revamp
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
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Title: Re: I was recently reminded...
Post by: HEATSTROKE on January 02, 2015, 02:58:19 AM
does that count for fire tanks? I heard they were abit more squishy when compared to the other primary defense powers.


ANY tank.. including fire tanks

 
Title: Re: I was recently reminded...
Post by: robo40 on January 02, 2015, 02:01:52 PM
Was Bio live at shutdown?
Title: Re: I was recently reminded...
Post by: Ankhammon on January 02, 2015, 02:49:05 PM
Was Bio live at shutdown?

The consensus is that it was not.  Honesty I wasn't sure myself.

I spent a lot of time on test at the end with a bio/ice tank with the sorcery pp that was pretty good.
Title: Re: I was recently reminded...
Post by: HEATSTROKE on January 04, 2015, 05:22:21 AM
Bio was not live at Shutdown