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Title: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: FatherXmas on September 15, 2015, 07:20:26 AM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.trbimg.com%2Fimg-55f696be%2Fturbine%2Fla-et-hc-agents-of-shield-chloe-bennett-debuts-002%2F1250%2F1250x703)

Exclusive: Chloe Bennet's new Quake costume in 'Agents of SHIELD' (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-agents-of-shield-chloe-bennett-debuts-quake-costume-20150913-story.html)

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Not bad.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on September 15, 2015, 05:02:56 PM
Nice.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Aggelakis on September 15, 2015, 07:02:10 PM
Ooh. I like the 'nod' to the Unnecessary Gold Circles in the golden piping along some seams. I was not looking forward to this costume. :p

EDIT: I'm just glad it's not this terrible thing (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117763/3513304-ult02303.jpg).
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Kaos Arcanna on September 30, 2015, 11:42:16 AM
You know, one of these days I'd like to see an action costume that isn't black ...

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Kaos Arcanna on September 30, 2015, 11:45:08 AM
Beyond that, I'm sorta with Phil. If I've known someone by one name for two years and they suddenly go by another I might have trouble remembering to call them by the new one.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Lord Nightmare on September 30, 2015, 06:56:24 PM
You know, one of these days I'd like to see an action costume that isn't black ...



(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=static.comicvine.com%2Fuploads%2Foriginal%2F8%2F80403%2F2260826-the_avengers_chris_evans_captain_america_image.jpg)
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on October 01, 2015, 09:18:44 AM
Beyond that, I'm sorta with Phil. If I've known someone by one name for two years and they suddenly go by another I might have trouble remembering to call them by the new one.

I had forgotten she had another name.  And what had happened to Simmons.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Rejolt on October 01, 2015, 11:17:01 AM
IGN had an interview with Skye... er Daisy... saying Simmons' rescue will be almost immediate in episode 2 and she'll be more badass at the end of it.

Outside of that: rumors she's on a either a kree world or the rock Thantos is from. Take that as you will being the internet and all.

On that note - Simmons rubbed dirt she dug for (like a puppy looking for a bone... seriously, was it magic dirt or something?) on a cut over he eye and felt better. Weird.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on October 01, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
My impression was she was being tracked by blood somehow and that was a measure taken to mask it.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on October 01, 2015, 09:08:02 PM
I was guessing blue area of the moon. Extremely disappointed she's coming back though (and that Fitz wasn't drawn in to join her). Then again I can't stand anyone on this show apart from Mack and Kyle Maclachlan. Oh and also I'm grumpy.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on October 01, 2015, 09:29:36 PM
I like Fitz-Simmons, although Fitz was hard to deal with during the crazy cripple portions of last season.  Character-wise, the only thing I don't like is the double agent whose name escapes me.  He just doesn't work for me as a psycho.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on October 01, 2015, 09:59:32 PM
I like Fitz-Simmons, although Fitz was hard to deal with during the crazy cripple portions of last season.  Character-wise, the only thing I don't like is the double agent whose name escapes me.  He just doesn't work for me as a psycho.

Yeah that was my favorite. I'm trying to imagine the writers' room on that one. "Well we have Skye running around to talk to various characters about their feelings every week but I still don't feel like we have enough dull conversations in this show. Maybe if we had to wait on one of the characters to say everything it'd be better."

Oh and I assume you're referring to Ward.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on October 01, 2015, 10:32:57 PM
That's the one.  I'm terrible with names.  His turn was a WTF moment for me and not in a good way.  And every leap away from redemption they've made since has been that much worse.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Kaos Arcanna on October 01, 2015, 11:30:04 PM
That's the one.  I'm terrible with names.  His turn was a WTF moment for me and not in a good way.  And every leap away from redemption they've made since has been that much worse.

The problem I have with the whole situation is that at no point in the point in the storyline did we ever see Garrett do ANYTHING to justify Ward's loyalty to him.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Mandu on October 04, 2015, 09:22:00 PM
I don't really see Ward turning as a problem.  Sociopaths are great at appearing to be likable people.  They are the ones whose friends and neighbors always say "I can't believe he did something like that.  He was the nicest person ever." or just plain refuse to believe it no matter how much evidence there is.  Throughout the first season he always struck me as a sociopath type.  Always just a little too nice and a little too plastic.  So when he turned for me it was more of a "yep" moment than a "gasp" moment.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Kaos Arcanna on October 07, 2015, 02:10:08 AM

Not an outstanding episode, but not bad. Not bad.


Spoiler for Hidden:
And here we have traumatized!Simmons to deal with.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on October 07, 2015, 06:11:06 AM
Spoiler for Hidden:
Well at least she's not brain damaged.

Fun that one of the Strucker kids was on there. Wonder if the twins will show up at some point.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on October 07, 2015, 01:33:34 PM
Spoiler for Hidden:
Well at least she's not brain damaged.

Fun that one of the Strucker kids was on there. Wonder if the twins will show up at some point.

Well one is dead, no?
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on October 07, 2015, 06:10:09 PM
Maybe, idk?
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on October 08, 2015, 06:28:42 AM
Well one is dead, no?

Wait, is one of the Strucker twins dead or were you talking about the Maximoffs?
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on October 08, 2015, 02:00:39 PM
Wait, is one of the Strucker twins dead or were you talking about the Maximoffs?

I was wondering too. Usually when someone says "the twins", that refers to the Maximoffs.
I had no idea Strucker even had a kid.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on October 08, 2015, 04:50:38 PM
Ah, I meant the Strucker twins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenris_(comics)
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on October 08, 2015, 06:54:25 PM
Ah, I meant the Strucker twins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenris_(comics)

I see. I had no idea about those. Would be fun if they did turn up.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Kaos Arcanna on October 21, 2015, 02:08:30 AM

So.....

Two potential ideas occurred to me about next week's episode ...


Spoiler for Hidden:
Jemma isn't really Jemma, and she's going to go back to rescue the real Jemma.


Spoiler for Hidden:
Jemma is really Jemma, but there's someone she left behind there ... maybe that 19th Century guy from a prologue we saw earlier. And of course Jemma has fallen in love with him because they want to prolong the romantic agony betweeen FitzSimmons as long as possible.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on October 21, 2015, 03:27:40 AM
So.....

Two potential ideas occurred to me about next week's episode ...


Spoiler for Hidden:
Jemma isn't really Jemma, and she's going to go back to rescue the real Jemma.


Spoiler for Hidden:
Jemma is really Jemma, but there's someone she left behind there ... maybe that 19th Century guy from a prologue we saw earlier. And of course Jemma has fallen in love with him because they want to prolong the romantic agony betweeen FitzSimmons as long as possible.

Spoiler for Hidden:
Or Jemma is Lash. She already showed she wasn't a big fan of Inhumans last season. And something on the planet made her one of them
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on October 22, 2015, 08:44:11 PM
I'm calling it now - that killer Inhuman will turn out to be Andrew.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on October 22, 2015, 09:55:03 PM
I'm calling it now - that killer Inhuman will turn out to be Andrew.

That was my first thought.  Then I thought it was too obvious.  Then I started considering all kinds of unlikely people - like Ward or the gal in charge of the government group they've been reluctantly working with.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on October 23, 2015, 01:37:50 AM
That was my first thought.  Then I thought it was too obvious.  Then I started considering all kinds of unlikely people - like Ward or the gal in charge of the government group they've been reluctantly working with.

Well I am basing it on the fact that I am sure it wasn't Andrew lying in that pool of blood and was blown up.
And Strucker's kid looked scared instead of someone who came out on top in a fight.
(Unless there was a last minute rescue that we will see next week).

It's possible he doesn't even know - like the old days when Banner became the Hulk and had no idea what the Hulk was up to.

First I thought it might have been Jemma, but that thing was around while she was still on that other planet.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on October 28, 2015, 12:43:16 PM
The planet has moods...  Ego?
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on October 28, 2015, 08:42:22 PM
The planet has moods...  Ego?

My first thought as well.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on October 29, 2015, 08:26:43 AM
No fly zone = sweet moustache.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on October 29, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
I enjoyed that episode a lot.

I just don't understand why Jemma didn't mention him right away to mount a rescue. The guy basically saved her life and she has been back a while and only now mentions him.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on November 04, 2015, 03:50:07 AM
I was right! See my post October 22nd. I said
Spoiler for Hidden:
Andrew
would turn out to be Lash!

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Nos482 on November 11, 2015, 08:29:04 PM
I've been binge watching AoS... after I stopped paying attention halfway through the last season.
About Lash, is it just me or does he look an awful lot like Blackheart?
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.fightersgeneration.com%2Fcharacters%2Fblackheart-fire1.gif)
Minus the tail of course.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Mandu on November 13, 2015, 02:39:28 AM
Great episode.  I do not know how they manage to cram so much stuff into one hour.  I felt like I had just watched a two parter or a movie.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on November 13, 2015, 03:19:28 AM
For the first half or so, I felt like the episode was just spinning its wheels...

So, does anyone else think that Coulson is just playing the sap for now to figure out what's her name's endgame?
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on November 13, 2015, 04:23:30 AM
For the first half or so, I felt like the episode was just spinning its wheels...

So, does anyone else think that Coulson is just playing the sap for now to figure out what's her name's endgame?

One would hope so, otherwise he needs to be kicked out of the spy union.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on November 13, 2015, 05:22:35 AM
One would hope so, otherwise he needs to be kicked out of the spy union.

From the preview it looks like he figured it out. Phil ain't no dummy.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on November 18, 2015, 07:26:54 PM
As Malick blithered on, I became bothered by how familiar he sounded.  Eventually, I was bugged enough to hit IMDB and find out he was Grodd in Justice League.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on November 19, 2015, 08:27:12 AM
As Malick blithered on, I became bothered by how familiar he sounded.  Eventually, I was bugged enough to hit IMDB and find out he was Grodd in Justice League.

Powers Boothe is awesome in everything.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on December 09, 2015, 06:14:20 PM
Great.  Strike Ward down and he shall become more powerful than you can imagine...
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on December 09, 2015, 09:18:34 PM
Great.  Strike Ward down and he shall become more powerful than you can imagine...

Well I am guessing it isn't Ward anymore, just like that wasn't Will. It's the inhuman just using his dead body.

And its not that hard to destroy the body, as even Fitz was able to take it down with a flare gun.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on December 09, 2015, 09:29:22 PM
I know.  It just annoys me.  Because the whole Ward situation annoys me and I've grown sick of his face.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on December 09, 2015, 10:09:51 PM
I know.  It just annoys me.  Because the whole Ward situation annoys me and I've grown sick of his face.

True. I thought we would finally be done with him.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on March 10, 2016, 05:29:11 AM
It's back!  Yay?  I guess?  The three months from now bit didn't make enough sense to setup any anticipation for me.  And the rest of the episode mostly felt like filling time.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: FatherXmas on March 11, 2016, 02:07:56 AM
Honestly, I thought the pan of the planet was going to show something terrible happening ... but it's only a Quinjet ... in ORBIT.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on March 13, 2016, 10:16:23 AM
Not sure if this happened everywhere in the states (not even sure what city the copy i watched came from), but I wonder if it was intentionally or unintentionally hilarious that ABC put up election returns at the exact second that Hunter said the line about power in the wrong hands.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on March 16, 2016, 12:59:01 PM
That whole setup was bunk.

Quake's outlook about the vaccine was bunk.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on March 17, 2016, 01:19:58 PM
That whole setup was bunk.

Quake's outlook about the vaccine was bunk.

Even though they can't use X-Men - they don't mind ripping off X-Men 3.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on March 17, 2016, 02:40:57 PM
Even though they can't use X-Men - they don't mind ripping off X-Men 3.

Can't let something that terrible just sit out there unmined.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: eabrace on March 23, 2016, 02:51:57 AM
I'll say it:  I loved the scene in the bar.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on March 23, 2016, 01:51:57 PM
I'll say it:  I loved the scene in the bar.

Yeah. I honestly thought they were talking about getting killed by the Russians. Either executed or letting themselves get killed while escaping.

And it leaves wiggle room for them to come back later if need be.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: eabrace on March 23, 2016, 10:53:52 PM
And it leaves wiggle room for them to come back later if need be.
Or, you know, spin off into their own series. (http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/marvels-most-wanted/245313/agents-of-shield-spinoff-marvels-most-wanted-official-description)
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on March 24, 2016, 09:01:18 PM
Or, you know, spin off into their own series. (http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/marvels-most-wanted/245313/agents-of-shield-spinoff-marvels-most-wanted-official-description)

I thought that was shelved. Would be cool though.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: eabrace on March 24, 2016, 11:10:31 PM
I thought that was shelved. Would be cool though.
Shelved temporarily and then greenlit.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on March 25, 2016, 01:02:46 AM
Shelved temporarily and then greenlit.

Good. They make a nice team. I guess since Carter is off the books they have the space for it.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on March 25, 2016, 06:19:07 AM
That bar scene seemed to last 15 minutes even on 2x.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: eabrace on March 30, 2016, 01:54:17 AM
Spoiler for Hidden:
"Gang war rages in Hell's Kitchen.  Authorities searching for solution."
8)
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on March 30, 2016, 08:29:42 PM
Mini Mack?  Should've gone with Little Mack.  Could've got him some green shorts and started him on his boxing career.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on March 31, 2016, 01:37:11 AM
Mini Mack?  Should've gone with Little Mack.  Could've got him some green shorts and started him on his boxing career.

And now that song will be stuck in my head for several days.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on March 31, 2016, 02:11:39 AM
Mini Mack?  Should've gone with Little Mack.  Could've got him some green shorts and started him on his boxing career.

I don't get why they thought Mac was an Inhuman. He didn't use any flashy powers. He's just a really good shot.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Blondeshell on March 31, 2016, 02:16:29 AM
I think it was the angle from which they saw Daisy's attack. They couldn't see her and just assumed it was Mack who did it.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on April 27, 2016, 01:37:52 PM
The energy shield was cool.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on April 27, 2016, 01:57:32 PM
The energy shield was cool.

Stole that from the Cap comics from quite a few years ago.

Cap's shield was shattered so Tony Stark made him that energy shield to pop out of his glove when he needed it.

Glad to see now with CGI they could make it look so awesome.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Arcana on April 28, 2016, 08:46:32 AM
Kinda been wondering for a while if the AoS writers have read Earth-X.  Now I'm really wondering.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on April 28, 2016, 08:58:23 AM
Your post made me wonder why I hadn't read it. Turns out it's because the people who did chronological x-men missed including it somehow. Definitely going to read it now since wiki says it was inspired by kingdom come which i just finished and loved.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on April 28, 2016, 09:08:46 AM
Stole that from the Cap comics from quite a few years ago.

Cap's shield was shattered so Tony Stark made him that energy shield to pop out of his glove when he needed it.

Glad to see now with CGI they could make it look so awesome.

Didn't he have that during a stint as Nomad, too?  Or was another guy taking on the Nomad role using it?

In any case, the important part is that Coulson is now a Shield tanker... and that the shield looks cool.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on April 28, 2016, 09:56:36 AM
U.s. agent had one for a while, not sure about nomad
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on April 28, 2016, 01:19:15 PM
Didn't he have that during a stint as Nomad, too?  Or was another guy taking on the Nomad role using it?

In any case, the important part is that Coulson is now a Shield tanker... and that the shield looks cool.

I was hoping for a Stark name drop on the shield, but maybe it was Fitz.

Hope he gets to use it again.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Arcana on April 28, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Your post made me wonder why I hadn't read it. Turns out it's because the people who did chronological x-men missed including it somehow. Definitely going to read it now since wiki says it was inspired by kingdom come which i just finished and loved.

The books are so dense and the story(ies) they tell so complicated its almost impossible to really spoil them, but I will say if you go hunting for them that IMO Earth-X is genius, Universe-X is thought-provoking but not as strong, and Paradise-X is sketchy (due in large part to editorial interference during its run that truncated the series and messed up the overall story).

Earth-X in particular deals with the question "what if everyone had superpowers" and one of its big ideas* is that mutation in humans is an engineered property because humans were designed to be a weapons system, much like the Inhumans in AoS.  There's also the idea that this weapons system needed a control system, like Hive is in AoS.  And the AoS story line seems to be suggesting to me that Hive's endgame involves trying to figure out how to turn all of humanity into Inhumans, because then he can convert everyone on Earth into a part of Hive.


* Each book is centered around what I call a Big Idea: Earth-X's big idea is "what is the source of (mutation-based) super powers?" Universe-X's big idea is "where do all alternate realities come from?" and Paradise-X's big idea is "can you control the ultimate nature of reality?"
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on April 28, 2016, 10:20:06 PM
Sounds fun. I had them nicely tucked into my heartbreakingly beautiful organized folders so the looking for them took less time than it'll take to copy them over to my tablet for reading.

They could also easily do a plot line similar to what happened after House of M when Quicksilver exposed former mutants to terrigen, just with genetically manipulated humans. Could easily see next season going in that vein with them having to hunt down a whole passel of people who got powers they couldn't control and weren't exactly desirable.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Arcana on April 29, 2016, 02:20:36 AM
Sounds fun. I had them nicely tucked into my heartbreakingly beautiful organized folders so the looking for them took less time than it'll take to copy them over to my tablet for reading.

They could also easily do a plot line similar to what happened after House of M when Quicksilver exposed former mutants to terrigen, just with genetically manipulated humans. Could easily see next season going in that vein with them having to hunt down a whole passel of people who got powers they couldn't control and weren't exactly desirable.

There are hints in the dialog from this latest episode that Hive thinks Shield expects him to raise an army, because Shield thinks he intends to fight a war, but he isn't.  The logical assumption is that Hive doesn't intend to fight a war because his end game precludes the possibility of a war ever happening or threatening him.  To me, that suggests to main possibilities: engineering a way to turn all humans into Inhumans that would then become part of Hive, or engineering a way for Hive to affect humans, and in effect eliminate the problem in the same way.  And it fits with Hive's apparent motives, which are focused on his reason for existing, which is to essentially turn Inhumans into a collective.  I don't think it serves Hive's purpose to simply create a few randomly engineered humans with powers.  That's not "why he exists."
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on April 29, 2016, 02:55:07 AM
All true, but it also has to serve the purposes of extended plot and (I assume) extended use of the actor playing ward/hive. so though his motivation is to convert everyone there could be attempts to figure out a way to affect humans that fail, leading to a bunch of people with out of control powers for them to hunt down next season. if it were me i'd have the next couple episodes where there are failed attempts and then have him and all the test subjects, one of whom was a success, escape in the big finale showdown. they could then have a main arc next season of trying to stop hive from converting the human population with individual episodes where they have to stop the failures.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Nos482 on April 29, 2016, 09:08:24 AM
So instead of a Cajun, Gambit's a Redneck now? ;)
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on April 29, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
So instead of a Cajun, Gambit's a Redneck now? ;)

I got curious with each codename he threw out during the episode, but none of the searches along the way got likely results until near the end with Hellfire, IIRC.  I think the real name was James Taylor James, and he was affiliated with the Secret Warriors, though I prefer the original origin.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Nos482 on May 01, 2016, 11:52:53 AM
Comic Hellfire could create objects out of fire... this one's powers are more akin to Gambit. Even if he's using fire to blow stuff up instead of kinetic energy.
But I liked Mack's suggestion, Blowhard ;D
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: eabrace on May 11, 2016, 06:19:53 AM
Front and center with the Sokovia Accords this week.  Very nice.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Blondeshell on May 11, 2016, 01:07:12 PM
Front and center with the Sokovia Accords this week.  Very nice.

Even though the movies don't reciprocate, that's one thing I've always enjoyed about AoS. You can always count on them incorporating the events of the movies into the next episodes and expanding their impact.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on May 11, 2016, 01:42:00 PM
So did this new episode make any subtle reference to the Civil War film? 8)
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Blondeshell on May 11, 2016, 07:53:39 PM
It wasn't even subtle. The topic of registration factored heavily into parts of the episode.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on May 11, 2016, 08:40:50 PM
It wasn't even subtle. The topic of registration factored heavily into parts of the episode.

I was trying to be sarcastic.

It was like they had a big hammer with "Sokovia Accords" written on it and constantly hit us over the head with it the entire episode.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on May 11, 2016, 09:38:55 PM
Oh, no, it wasn't the flaming chain... 'twas beauty killed the beast...
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Arcana on May 11, 2016, 10:17:36 PM
Oh, no, it wasn't the flaming chain... 'twas beauty killed the beast...

I was like "oh no you didn't" at that moment.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on May 11, 2016, 10:55:39 PM
I was like "oh no you didn't" at that moment.

For the big. bad monster, he got taken out rather easy.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on May 12, 2016, 01:34:02 AM
The Alpha Primitives were a nice touch.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Blondeshell on May 12, 2016, 02:24:59 AM
I was trying to be sarcastic.

It was like they had a big hammer with "Sokovia Accords" written on it and constantly hit us over the head with it the entire episode.

And I didn't mind it, tbh.  :)

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on May 12, 2016, 02:52:08 AM
And I didn't mind it, tbh.  :)

I thought it was awesome, but I'm still coming down from my Civil War high...
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Nos482 on May 12, 2016, 09:16:06 PM
So it's Mack who'll (most likely) die within the next two episodes... pity, I liked him :(
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on May 12, 2016, 10:12:47 PM
I kind of assumed it'd be Mack who dies seeing as he's the only regular i like.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Ulysses Dare on May 13, 2016, 05:58:11 AM
Maybe it's Ward who dies—again :P
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on May 13, 2016, 06:52:17 AM
Why are we assuming someone's going to die?
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on May 13, 2016, 12:35:30 PM
Why are we assuming someone's going to die?

Because they said so in the trailers. And trailers never lie.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on May 13, 2016, 04:36:53 PM
Ah.  Then here's hoping it's Lincoln.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Arcana on May 13, 2016, 08:32:02 PM
Ah.  Then here's hoping it's Lincoln.

I might have said that a week ago, before he pulled the Batman gambit with May.  He earned a lot of points with me for that one.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tenzhi on May 18, 2016, 09:07:24 PM
Cool.  They launched the two characters I liked least into space and blew them up, even if they tried too hard to make it emotional.

Plus: mysterious new Director.  And LMD tease.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: eabrace on May 18, 2016, 09:10:01 PM
I was quite entertained by the game of hot potato they were playing with the cross throughout the episode.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on May 19, 2016, 03:30:24 AM
I didn't get the fact that the inhuman showed people their own death. So how could Daisy have seen someone else's?

Plus I still have a bad feeling we haven't seen the last of
Spoiler for Hidden:
Ward / Hive / whatever.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on May 19, 2016, 06:41:57 AM
Spoiler for Hidden:
So the first LMD is a sexbot. sounds about right.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on May 19, 2016, 12:58:02 PM
Spoiler for Hidden:
So the first LMD is a sexbot. sounds about right.

I was thinking Jocasta when I saw that.

Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Arcana on May 19, 2016, 10:04:28 PM
Plus I still have a bad feeling we haven't seen the last of
Spoiler for Hidden:
Ward / Hive / whatever.

Spoiler for Hidden:
I actually liked that at the end Lincoln and Hive didn't have some moot fight.  Hive genuinely did care about Inhumans in his own way and he saw no reason to feel any animosity towards Lincoln when it had no purpose.  In fact, Hive seemed to actually admire the fact that Lincoln was willing to sacrifice himself for SHIELD.  And Lincoln seemed to know that Hive was sincere, even if evil, and he understood on some level that Hive was just trying to fulfill his purpose, as Lincoln believed all Inhumans have a purpose.  It felt to me like both of them went out with dignity.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tahquitz on May 20, 2016, 01:48:15 AM
I spent the last 48 hours avoiding this thread because I couldn't watch it until now. :O
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: doc7924 on May 21, 2016, 12:01:21 AM
Spoiler for Hidden:
I actually liked that at the end Lincoln and Hive didn't have some moot fight.  Hive genuinely did care about Inhumans in his own way and he saw no reason to feel any animosity towards Lincoln when it had no purpose.  In fact, Hive seemed to actually admire the fact that Lincoln was willing to sacrifice himself for SHIELD.  And Lincoln seemed to know that Hive was sincere, even if evil, and he understood on some level that Hive was just trying to fulfill his purpose, as Lincoln believed all Inhumans have a purpose.  It felt to me like both of them went out with dignity.

I did like that a lot. He knew it was over and accepted it.

But until I see a body................
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Tahquitz on May 22, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Spoiler for Hidden:
I did like that a lot. He knew it was over and accepted it.

But until I see a body................

Warhead in space.  But I know what you mean, Season 4's cliffhanger might have a similar endtag: flash back a year ago as a Hive infected meteorite crashlands in some Inuit village as a Inhuman stops his dogsled and picks it up...  Son of a b--

Although I suspect Brett Dalton will have some recurring appearances past this point, he showed some depth this season.  I was impressed.  Or, he may not leave at all, particularly the reveal at the endtag with AIDA and LMDs on deck: additional "Hydra sleeper cell" busting is possible.  I doubt they would have Ward back 100% without the Hive/Hydra undertones.

Detractors of Agents of C.H.L.O.E. will probably keep hating on Quake, but the insinuation that Quake left SHIELD (not necessarily true: double agent?) may have her potentially still stuck as our Audience Advocate (They are right in that the focus of the last two seasons was mostly on her story) or this may take the focus away from her as B-Plot material to bring others into the foreground. 

The question is when the time jump occurs: at the beginning, midpoint, or end of Season 3.  They could be playing it like the Fallen Agent foreshadow scene that we got when Daisy got the vision of the quinjet moments before exploding.  We might see the steps inbetween.  Why Coulson stepped down... Why Daisy is being pursued... And possibly if Inhumans decide to thumb their noses at the law to cause SHIELD to rein them in (is Daisy an isolated issue, or is it more X-Men like and Inhumans want their own sovereignty?)

And let's not forget since LMDs were exposed... were the Koenig brothers a beta form of it?  Or just identical brothers who all aspired to work in SHIELD at once, which would be really weird?
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on June 08, 2016, 10:29:18 AM
Kinda been wondering for a while if the AoS writers have read Earth-X.  Now I'm really wondering.

Just finished reading all of those. So insanely good (well, Earth X anyway. the others are great too, but have their ups and downs) that I have trouble believing anyone who'd read Earth-X could in good conscience write anything remotely like AoS in the same universe.

Earth X is easily the best thing I've read from Marvel, and given that Kingdom Come is the best DCU thing I've read so far, gotta give a serious hat tip to Alex Ross.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Arcana on June 08, 2016, 10:13:04 PM
Just finished reading all of those. So insanely good (well, Earth X anyway. the others are great too, but have their ups and downs) that I have trouble believing anyone who'd read Earth-X could in good conscience write anything remotely like AoS in the same universe.

In general there isn't much resemblance between the two settings of course, but there were a couple of ideas that resonated for me.  The notion that the inhumans/mutants were an engineered weapons system, and in particular the notion that some of them have specific roles: Hive verses the Skull for example.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Vee on June 09, 2016, 09:00:17 AM
Yeah the engineering of specific roles is an odd notion, especially since the MCU doesn't have Supremor (yet). It makes sense in both cases to talk about engineering the potential for super powers, and in AoS's case it makes sense to talk about Hive being specifically engineered to join all the powers together since he's so old, but what sort of engineering would we be talking about if we have people being engineered to have specific powers activated by a catalyst(s) over thousands of years? The Inhumans have the 'each of us has a purpose' mantra, but that really seems to be an article of faith on their part, especially since if that were true then a ton of them would just have the purpose of getting killed by Lash.

spoiler tagging the following for those who haven't read Earth X or don't care.

Spoiler for Hidden:
There's the sense in Earth X of Skull having the specific purpose of being able to bring the powers together, but that's from Uatu's point of view that the specific players are morally neutral but inescapably teleological. He sees the Skull as being a necessary step to protecting the earth only because of his belief that everything is part of the plan and necessary to it, despite the randomness of the mutating seed and the fact that the Celestial's 'plan' has started too early. If anything, the Skull is counterproductive to the 'plan', both because his birth killed off the telepaths who actually could have united the earth against threat (as Xavier had actually done, uniting the entire earth to foil an invasion long before) but also because his selfishness and lack of imagination ultimately helped lead to the destruction of the Celestial seed. Uatu can see that individual actions are morally neutral vis a vis the Celestial purpose, but doesn't see that they're also necessarily teleologically neutral thanks to the randomness of the means the Celestials set up to protect the earth. He has an odd faith in the plan similar to the AoS Inhumans, but theirs is a faith in the absence of evidence. Uatu has some pretty damning counter-evidence - knowledge of the failed attempts with the Eternals and Deviants on Earth, not to mention all the failures on planets destroyed by Galactus, yet still somehow believes the Celestial plan to be infallible so long as it's allowed to play out.
Title: Re: Agents of SHIELD season 3 - Meet Quake
Post by: Arcana on June 09, 2016, 06:25:34 PM
spoiler tagging the following for those who haven't read Earth X or don't care.

Spoiler for Hidden:
There's the sense in Earth X of Skull having the specific purpose of being able to bring the powers together, but that's from Uatu's point of view that the specific players are morally neutral but inescapably teleological. He sees the Skull as being a necessary step to protecting the earth only because of his belief that everything is part of the plan and necessary to it, despite the randomness of the mutating seed and the fact that the Celestial's 'plan' has started too early. If anything, the Skull is counterproductive to the 'plan', both because his birth killed off the telepaths who actually could have united the earth against threat (as Xavier had actually done, uniting the entire earth to foil an invasion long before) but also because his selfishness and lack of imagination ultimately helped lead to the destruction of the Celestial seed. Uatu can see that individual actions are morally neutral vis a vis the Celestial purpose, but doesn't see that they're also necessarily teleologically neutral thanks to the randomness of the means the Celestials set up to protect the earth. He has an odd faith in the plan similar to the AoS Inhumans, but theirs is a faith in the absence of evidence. Uatu has some pretty damning counter-evidence - knowledge of the failed attempts with the Eternals and Deviants on Earth, not to mention all the failures on planets destroyed by Galactus, yet still somehow believes the Celestial plan to be infallible so long as it's allowed to play out.

Spoiler for Hidden:
I don't think its purely a matter of faith that Uatu talks about how mutants evolve, since he has knowledge about how they ultimately evolve - i.e. cosmic cubes.  I think mutations are random in general, but they have guiding principles like birds flying in flocks.  The typical mutation might be random, but programmed into the mutant gene are the command safeguards.  The more powerful mutants become the more controllable they become.  I think the Skull is one level of that control: as mutant-kind becomes more commonplace and more powerful it encourages the birth of a being like the Skull.  You could even argue that the Skull was just the ultimate expression of the psionic control mutation: the more mutants there are, the more powerful they are, the more the gene is encouraged to express increasingly more powerful psychics.  At a critical threshold a psychic is born that is so powerful it wipes out all the other psychics that are competition for it, and becomes the primary control mechanism for the mutants.

The Skull is the first in a line of Celestial safeguards.  After the Skull, if mutants continue to evolve into more powerful forms they begin to get control over their own selves, then they evolve into manipulating reality, but they also become susceptible to suggestion which controls their forms and personalities i.e. the Asgardians.  Finally, they gain ultimate control over reality but completely lose their own personalities, becoming cosmic cubes.

In that sense, the Skull has a purpose, but not literally every single mutant has a purpose in the grand scheme, except insofar as the grand purpose requires mutants in general.  It is possible that the Inhumans in AoS have a similar purpose: there is a grand scheme, but how detailed that grand scheme is and where every single inhuman belongs in that scheme is more a matter of perspective.  The Kree certainly engineered Hive.  But they may have been more general in their engineering of the Inhuman gene.  It is possible the Inhuman gene has feedback loops in it that express certain features based on the environment.  Many species have genetic codes that alter the probability of an embryo becoming male or female based on the current populations.  You could say that males and females have a purpose and the gene tries to fulfill that purpose (by balancing them so that breeding the next generation is easier).  In that sense, it is possible that every Inhuman has a purpose that the Inhuman gene itself is trying to express, but not even the Kree would necessarily know what that purpose was for each and every Inhuman born.