Don't make me frosty... you wouldn't like me when I'm frosty. ;D
No matter how fast he moves, he'll always have a chance to be hit. There's a soft cap on him.
Right. But how many times has he just stood there without moving and got shot? Like he forgot he could just move out of the way.
I was okay with her attitude except for the whole "no, we can't waste time trying to save Barry" thing. That was just mind boggling. Unless we find out she's a doppelganger or something.
If nothing else, the superspeed feats with the car and grenade were fun.
Ok I know you guys are enjoying season 4 so far
All of a sudden? Have you not been paying attention to WB/CW over the past couple of decades or so? Seriously, man.(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F000%2F533%2F706%2F7ef.jpg)
I like that the Thinker is getting scenes at the end of episodes from the start of the season, so we can know a little about what he's capable of and what his goals are. We don't know why yet, but that's ok. The villain isn't a complete blank slate and so we can get to know what makes him tick over the season. As has been stated many times, the best villains don't think they're a villain, so I'm hoping to see what they have in store for the Thinker.And a non-speedster big bad is a nice change of pace, too.
All of a sudden? Have you not been paying attention to WB/CW over the past couple of decades or so? Seriously, man.
And a non-speedster big bad is a nice change of pace, too.
Certainly looks like the future though. Or an alternate Earth.
Or a dimension that you open up with a puzzle box.
And now we're force see Cisco and Gypsy having their relationship drama
I suppose it's too much to hope that Wally's leaving sticks for an appreciable length of time...
Anyone else get the impression that they were poking at the criticism of speedsters getting shot with that game of laser tag?
Nice nod to the Trickster in the 1990's Flash TV show with the marbles. Mark Hamill used marbles on John Wesley Shipp.
I'm liking the more fun tone of the show. Not sure where they're going with the Cecile and Joe reveal at the end of the episode. Daniel West? I really hope they don't do the "Kid grew up fast" thing they do on Soaps... If they need a new West family member, I would prefer they be from the future.
Any idea who the other woman on the bus was? From previews, the guy will be in next episode as the Elongated Man.
Not sure why DeVoe used his real name in dealing with Dibney. Why not use Smith or Johnson (Shadowrun anyone)?
I hope that it's part of some master plan to draw the Flash in. He seems to need the Flash for what he's got planned, so we'll see.
I do love the continued tone of fun and adventure! Machete/Breacher/Josh was great to see.
I'm hoping that Ralph becomes a fairly common guest star. He seems like fun and will provide a little conflict in the show without going over the top.
Ralph first appeared in the Flash. He was a mystery character that at first Barry feared was a villain. His first outfit was quite ... out there.
Or perhaps woven out of Gingold fibers...
Your standard barrel o' chemicals for PM. I like Ralph's freebased soda much better.
Isn't that the same drink that turns Olsen into Elastic Lad? and if so why cant anyone drink it to get the powers?Apparently it's a poison or allergen to a lot of people. Some people can consume the Gingo fruit without any issues. Only a very select few actually develop special abilities.
Lucky he didn't do any super speed stuff by accident.
He did get peanuts. Whoosh.
Did they just make the decision to make this and Legends into lame sitcoms this season? Just a constant stream of dad jokes at this point.
Did they just make the decision to make this and Legends into lame sitcoms this season? Just a constant stream of dad jokes at this point.
For Flash..yes
For Legends you are a season behind that comment :P and there is zero wrong with that because Legends is 100% the best Arrowverse show ATM.
I was going to say I'm still enjoying Flash a bit more, but then I thought "well, except for Mr. Rory"...
Legends is 100% the best Arrowverse show ATM.
That's kind of like saying this is the best colonoscopy you've ever had.
So it's well done AND an important, potentially life saving show.
That's kind of like saying this is the best colonoscopy you've ever had.
That's kind of like saying this is the best colonoscopy you've ever had.
The collection of Harrys was like a rejectedSNLmiddle school assembly skit.
Yes, and should be experienced only under heavy anesthesia.
Because Legends is 100% the best Arrowverse show ATM.
Not really, Colonoscopies are not entertaining and fun, Colonoscopies are something you have to deal with because they are necessary.Yeah. Considering a friend of mine died from a colonoscopy, that's not an analogy I would make.
Season 2 and what I have seen so far of Season 3 of Supergirl are the Colonoscopies of the Arrowverse.I have to disagree. S3 Supergirl is shaping up the best so far, and the latest episode just might be the single best episode.
As for Flash, it seems that more and more I actually want less and less of Flash, himself. I'm even wanting to watch a Ralph Dibney series more than Flash at this point. And historically, Flash has been one of the few DC characters I liked and couldn't stand Plastic Man.
Yeah. Considering a friend of mine died from a colonoscopy, that's not an analogy I would make.
have to disagree. S3 Supergirl is shaping up the best so far, and the latest episode just might be the single best episode..
Elongated Man isn't Plastic Man. Plastic Man was far more zany. A living cartoon. That said, they've nailed Dibny in my opinion.
Elongated Man isn't Plastic Man. Plastic Man was far more zany. A living cartoon. That said, they've nailed Dibny in my opinion.Yeah. Brain fart. My bad.
Elongated Man isn't Plastic Man. Plastic Man was far more zany. A living cartoon. That said, they've nailed Dibny in my opinion.
Barry is an idiot. The rest of the team were being a bit thick, but Barry was just outright stupid.This is not news.
Going back to the episode that introduced Ralph: Based on the lack of comments here and in YT reaction videos, I feel like I'm the only one who immediately picked up on the Marvel reference when Caitlin told Ralph, "Your vitals are fantastic."
It's a bit of a stretch, really.
He would have been better off seeking help than being some criminal mastermind.
And Barry should really remember to vibrate his face if he is going to do "Flash" things undercover.
And like "Legends", for a super hero show, there is very little super heroing.
The part that bugs me is they already know how to defeat Devoe. Barry/Savitar told them they came up with a cerebral inhibitor to beat Devoe. The moment they heard the name Devoe they should have started working on figuring out an inhibitor instead of doing stuff like standard background checks or pointless breaking and entering.
The time travel nonsense was, as far as I recall, at least stupidity that had an understandable motive. Breaking into the assumed villain's house because you found a camera and think he's watching everything without wearing any sort of mask, though...
I think every Arrowverse show has a wheel with all the characters pictures on there that they spin to see who gets to be a moron that week.
The trouble with this was that it was an IDIOT PLOT -- Barry acted like an idiot not because he's Barry but because the writer needed him to act like an idiot or the plot the writer had in mind wouldn't work. As he approached the house, I was yelling at the TV "why wouldn't you be in costume?" It makes no sense that he wasn't in costume, he was doing Flash stuff -- he has a mask just for when he does that kind of thing.
The point was that if he had done the natural thing that he's always done and would always do, that is wear the Flash suit, then the plot element of them getting a photo of Barry in the house wouldn't work. So the writer took over Barry's brain and had him act totally out of character and like an idiot for no reason.
This is the challenge of watching Arrowverse shows. The best you can say is it's better than Smallville.
[...] to one of the 6 people in Central City that doesn't already know.
Trolliest cut to commercial...
Good talk, Ralph.
The whole trial thing is annoying, though.
He was a 'cop who went bad' and who insisted he had to leave in the middle of his trial so I'm not surprised that the Judge treated him like that when he handed down his sentencing.
Good news. The replacement for Firestorm on Legends is going to be Wally. This certainly goes a long way towards explaining why he was suddenly out of the picture on Flash both as the actor and character.
On the other hand now they have an even more overpowered character on board that makes the rest of the crew irrelevant. They will I'm sure find some way to nerf him.
"Hey Wally, we know you could run through the encampment and gather up all the missing pieces of the computer in a fraction of a second but we really need you to stay here and fix the parking brake light in the control panel."
He did work on race cars when he first showed up so they can probably have him skip out on a few fights while putting in a NOS.
Good news. The replacement for Firestorm on Legends is going to be Wally. This certainly goes a long way towards explaining why he was suddenly out of the picture on Flash both as the actor and character.
On the other hand now they have an even more overpowered character on board that makes the rest of the crew irrelevant. They will I'm sure find some way to nerf him.
"Hey Wally, we know you could run through the encampment and gather up all the missing pieces of the computer in a fraction of a second but we really need you to stay here and fix the parking brake light in the control panel."
Good news. The replacement for Firestorm on Legends is going to be Wally. This certainly goes a long way towards explaining why he was suddenly out of the picture on Flash both as the actor and character.
On the other hand now they have an even more overpowered character on board that makes the rest of the crew irrelevant. They will I'm sure find some way to nerf him.
"Hey Wally, we know you could run through the encampment and gather up all the missing pieces of the computer in a fraction of a second but we really need you to stay here and fix the parking brake light in the control panel."
Good news. The replacement for Firestorm on Legends is going to be Wally. This certainly goes a long way towards explaining why he was suddenly out of the picture on Flash both as the actor and character.
Who was the odd girl at the end, though?
Same girl from the weird conversation at the wedding. I'm gonna guess she's Mopee.Dawn Allen. Gotta be.
Dawn Allen. Gotta be.
Looked like she was writing in the code they use in the 31st Century - Interlac I think its called.Not Interlac. It's the Speed Force language that Barry was writing on the walls a while back.
I wonder if Earth 1 has a Legion in the future just as Supergirl's Earth does.
And I am guessing Earth 1 has no Batman or Superman. Or at least not yet.
Not Interlac. It's the Speed Force language that Barry was writing on the walls a while back.
From the way she's been treated in the last couple of episodes, I'm not liking how they're turning Caitlin into a joke.
Also, on the question of whether or not Earth-1 has Batman: there's the Arrow episode in which Oliver gave Felicity her "Overwatch" codename, and said, "I was going to go with 'Oracle', but it's taken" - indicating that Batgirl exists and is paralyzed, so the Joker exists, so Batman exists.
Apparently, Cisco can count to Bulbasaur.He's the cutest of them all!
1. Ralph Dibny for the win!
2. A great guest shot by Paul McGillion - loved him as Dr. Carson Beckett on Stargate: Atlantis.
3. Becky's "Lady Luck" power might be the best one of them all, if not for the collateral damage.
On the other hand... Um, Ralph? After you talked Joe out of it, exactly how is this NOT falsifying evidence?
On the other hand... Um, Ralph? After you talked Joe out of it, exactly how is this NOT falsifying evidence?So is the idea that he's dead. This only sets things right.
I don't watch the show any more, but did Ralph impersonate DeVoe and convince the court to let Barry off the hook?
If so, what about the body on the floor of Barry's apartment. Who was that and shouldn't Barry have some more explaining to do?
With metahumans running around all over the city, they've probably seen stranger things.
Presumably they can afford to pay professional writers. Why is the story so bad?
Its not bad writing - its rushed writing and for that makes giant plot holes.I'm ok with a rushed plotline where a trial that would take months or years gets resolved in a few weeks.
A real trial like that would have taken months, or longer to get Barry convicted.
And same for 'DeVoe' coming back.
If Nicole Simpson suddenly turned up in the courtroom during the OJ trial , do you think they would just say "Oh she is alive. You are free OJ - have a nice day."
It can't be Ralph's stretchiness that DeVoe wants. Until he gets hold of Ralph's shapeshifting ability, DeVoe is stuck with body-hopping, via the chair, and leaving corpses behind. I think that he knew that Ralph could shapeshift before Ralph did. But specifically what might changing form have to do with bringing his so-called "Enlightenment"?
It might be Ralph's durability. Maybe the same molecular bonding that makes his body almost indestructible would keep DeVoe's nervous system from deteriorating.
Well that ship has sailed. He already has a new body, two in fact, so that isn't a problem anymore.
But does he actually have all the powers of those people he absorbed? or just the one body he has? He still seems to have the mind reading power of the other guy so maybe he does.
Is he now the Peter Petrelli of the Arrowverse? If so that's makes him pretty damn powerful.
Yes he has new bodies but who says that they aren't deteriorating as well. When a person gets something they really like they generally want to stick with it, not replace it every couple years.
Unless of course it's a phone.
And finally - Caitlyn can explain a pocket dimension but doesn't know what a singularity is?Probably just hung out in Pocket D a lot.
Also, I'd point out that, since Barry, Jessie, and Jay were able to move that fast, and do so much in that amount of time, there's absolutely no reason why any of them should ever get hit, be taken by surprise, fail to be anywhere on time, or otherwise be beaten ever again.You are correct, of course.
But they will. Because, ultimately, they'll always move at the speed of plot.
You are correct, of course.
In my head, I like to think that Barry has to turn his powers on and off so he can interact with the rest of the world. It makes some of the plot developments a little less painful, like when he gets surprised.
Mad science is an area of study not a degree, okay?!
DC Comics joke, too.
Jay & Silent Bob?! But... :o
They started counting down when Barry was at 10,000 feet, which is plenty high enough that an inflated Dibney covered in pegasus feathers and floating in an unset blancmange would still be pretty well equivalent to steel.
Oh Lord, if you're going to try to use SENSE about this. How about, why is Barry just fine with zipping through a floating car several hundred feet up and has no trouble landing while carrying somebody but is in mortal danger from falling from 10,000 feet? Or for that matter, since Barry routinely makes instant right hand turns at super-sonic speeds, why would it cause him any trouble to make a right hand turn from falling towards the ground to running along the ground at a velocity of only a few hundred miles per hour?
The stupid... the stupid... it BURNNNNSSSS
Not only that - in the comics he has fallen like this many times and usually rotates his hands to make an air cushion to slow his descent.
And as someone said, falling from that height even onto a rubber Ralph should still make him go splat.
I was perfectly fine with the cameo. I was far more disturbed by nacho donuts.Yeah, I wasn't complaining about Jay & Silent Bob, just flooded with all sorts of questions... like who the heck would hire these bozos.
Nacho Donuts are actually a thing! And Danny Trejo is serving 'em up!
http://www.foodandwine.com/news/danny-trejos-new-cafe-serves-nacho-flavored-doughnuts
There are savoury donuts (any fried dough is basically a donut), so they're not necessarily sweet, but even sweet and salty go well together. I've seen mushroom-filled beignets with cheese dip, bacon churros with powdered cheese, camembert & chive donuts, mac & cheese donuts, donut cheeseburgers... Here in New Orleans, we even have seafood donuts (some with cheese).
If he had just hit Ralph then of course he would have splattered. And yes Barry was in no danger at all since he could create vortexes, or vibrate, or come up with any other number of ways to survive. And that was deliberate.
Ralph was still not confident in his abilities at all. Instead of trying something like stretching more than just his arm when he couldn't reach Barry he had completely given up and was whining to the others to help. So Barry pretended he was terrified and asked Ralph to help him. Barry didn't come up with a plan or ask any of his usual go to guys for a solution, he said "Let Ralph improvise" "Be your own hero".
No matter what happened he would have been able to get himself down but his goal was to boost Ralph's confidence by letting him save the day. Then when he fell he just slowed himself down to the point that impacting on Ralph wouldn't hurt him.
I'm pissed off that the show just wasted Killer Frost. The show barely had screen time with the character this season. Now we just have Caitlin Snow.............
She will probably get her power back. After all the time wanting to be rid of it, you can see she misses Frost.
That's another problem I have. She went a complete 180 after losing her powers. :roll:
Nope. Her growing attachment to her alter ego was shown *before* losing her powers.
Also love how Clifford is basically Sylar - killing people to get their powers.But with slightly less "can opener" action.
But with slightly less "can opener" action.
Also interesting 18 or so episodes in and we still have zero clue on what he is actually trying to do and what he needs those specific powers for.Already makes him a better supervillain than most. I'm sure he'll still end up monologuing at some point, but it's amazing he's gone this long without it.
The wife must be feeling pretty good now too. A husband who can basically be anyone and stretch and inflate parts of his body.................Well, it started to help mankind and bring forth the age of enlightenment. But that's been derailed. Even his wife realized, too late, that he's now on a power trip.
Also interesting 18 or so episodes in and we still have zero clue on what he is actually trying to do and what he needs those specific powers for.
Well, it started to help mankind and bring forth the age of enlightenment. But that's been derailed. Even his wife realized, too late, that he's now on a power trip.
A point was brought up, in a reaction video, that I hadn't thought of: what about the bus driver? I don't recall anyone on Team Flash mentioning that one of the 12 metas was the driver. He was on the bus, so wouldn't he have been affected, too? Is DeVoe overlooking him, or was he, somehow, not affected, and so not part of the equation?
Also, there IS a chance that we can get Ralph back. Since DeVoe needs his resilient body, he won't be body-hopping out of it, so it'll stay alive. We just need for Ralph to still be alive in there, somewhere - a concept not unfamiliar to comic books. If we don't get him back, I shall be very cross; he's too much fun to lose. Plus, he hasn't had the chance to be in a crossover yet - I want to see Oliver having to put up with Ralph!
Ralph will make a comeback. Everybody else died when Devoe switched bodies but none of them had the durable body Ralph does.
At least I was right that his motivation for wanting Ralph was that the body wouldn't deteriorate from his powers.
I guess he waited to get Ralph at the end maybe to make it more hurtful to Barry and to rub it in. Otherwise he probably could have gotten him before.
I don't think so because he only seems to gain their powers when he possesses their body. If he wanted all the powers then he would have to save Ralph for last. Or do the multi body thing he did in the prison.
The bus driver died-- drowned in a bathtub.
From 4.04 (Elongated Journey Into Night):
- What about the bus driver?
- That's where things get more interesting.
- He's dead.
- Drowned in his own bathtub.
- That's not too suspicious.
- Harry said it was all connected.
- I think he's right.
The image of the bus and heat signatures seems to indicate 12 (including the bus driver), but it can also be interpreted as 13 (12+the driver), depending on which splotches are dark matter people.
The bus driver died-- drowned in a bathtub.
From 4.04 (Elongated Journey Into Night):
- What about the bus driver?
- That's where things get more interesting.
- He's dead.
- Drowned in his own bathtub.
- That's not too suspicious.
- Harry said it was all connected.
- I think he's right.
The image of the bus and heat signatures seems to indicate 12 (including the bus driver), but it can also be interpreted as 13 (12+the driver), depending on which splotches are dark matter people.
I wonder how DeVoe would take it if he realized the truth. When he mockingly said, "Right, ROOKIE?" to Barry, and then laughed, he was the one who knocked Barry off-balance emotionally. He derailed HIS OWN plan. And he did so by indulging in an emotion: arrogance. He had said that Harry had been undone by his own hubris, and then DeVoe became a walking illustration of exactly that.
So his plan is Idiocracy? And he calls it "enlightenment"?
The dark matter is a feint, the satellites really beam CW shows directly into everyone's brains.
Or his plan was to make everyone smart? ???
Not according to the last episode. His view is that technology and the intelligence to create it is bad, and his plan is revealed to be blasting everyone in the world with enough dark matter to destroy their intellect.
Spoiler for Hidden:
As I mentioned before - Team Flash has nothing to worry about from DeVoe - they cant possibly get any dumber.Spoiler for Hidden:
But on the plus side - Cavanaugh is brilliant being able to play so many distinct versions of himself.
I am so glad they kept him around in some form or another.
I wonder if he has any say into what versions and accents he would like the writers to put in.
I was totally expecting the 'better council' to be a council of alternate Ciscos.
That was the best cold opening I've seen this season! I guess the producers and writers watched the Marvel Netflix shows and copy and pasted the infamous hallway fight scene. ;D
THAT is how Peter Petreli should have been in Heroes. He had like how many powers and basically sucked at using them.If I remember correctly, Peter only got to keep one power at a time and he had to absorb a new power from someone else to change it. DeVoe gets to keep the old powers when he absorbs a new one.
If I remember correctly, Peter only got to keep one power at a time and he had to absorb a new power from someone else to change it. DeVoe gets to keep the old powers when he absorbs a new one.
My guess. The mistake she made is not that Barry was supposed to die but the baby was. Since it was being used as a conduit to Devoe's mind he imprinted his engrams on her. When she grows up she will become The Thinker mk2. Next season the team will travel forward in time to free young Jenna from the control of Devoe.
My reason for this guess is primarily because in that first shot of the baby she just stared directly into the camera with those huge dark eyes and they chose to linger on that shot.
I wonder what Harry we get next season.
The Harry whose consciousness has been transferred into Beebo!
Council of Beebo transferred Harries.