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Title: Dark / Dark Questions
Post by: CoH Joe on May 07, 2019, 09:37:29 PM
So just getting back - like the idea of dark dark ... however most of the powers seem to do the same debuff ... any old guides for this combo or advice please? Level 3(can level to 5 atm) but wondering if I take maneuver for the +def, or some Dmg on the secondary ... and not sure about slotting either - do any of my powers need anything but the standard 1 to accuracy and the recharge?

Also - any powers just not worth duplicating - thus freeing up choices?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Dark / Dark Questions
Post by: Azrael on May 07, 2019, 11:26:18 PM
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So just getting back - like the idea of dark dark ... however most of the powers seem to do the same debuff ... any old guides for this combo or advice please? Level 3(can level to 5 atm) but wondering if I take maneuver for the +def, or some Dmg on the secondary ... and not sure about slotting either - do any of my powers need anything but the standard 1 to accuracy and the recharge?

Also - any powers just not worth duplicating - thus freeing up choices?

Thanks in advance.

Ahhh...a dark, dark defender...we shall be watching your progress with great interest. :)

I had a d/d def' on live.  It's not chosen one scrapper up front damage.  But it is singularly unique and more varied in its play.  It will lock an orange mob down in a Bricks town  and melt them like butter.

But.  Somewhat slowly or in an 'interesting' way.   It's end heavy.  And mez  protection..?

Apart from that...it's kind of cool to debuff a mobs accuracy.  But the one shot that catches you on your glass chin...?

Tar pit is good.  Great slow power.  Tenubris Tentacles is mandatory kool dot hold.  Petrifying gaze..a sound hold..  you have a decent snipe...  take up the free VIP sands of mu for a dark melds power to lay down the smack on a held mob.

The Rez is cool if you can figure how to make it work.

I'd take all the powers.  The first two blasts are quick and do decent damage.

End and mez need addressing with epics.

I wonder is there a case to go corrupt or for more damage or even...is there a dark dark domi which would answer both the stamina and mez issue...that could be quite devastating.

Azrael.
Title: Re: Dark / Dark Questions
Post by: Vee on May 07, 2019, 11:38:41 PM
i'd skip petrifying gaze, black hole and probably torrent. never had dark pit so idk about it.
Title: Re: Dark / Dark Questions
Post by: eabrace on May 07, 2019, 11:51:24 PM
SHAME!

(https://welldoing.org/storage/app/uploads/public/5af/303/330/5af3033308acb233918344.jpg)

Sorry, Azrael.  I was going to quote your post and reply, but I apparently clicked the wrong button.  I think I managed to restore it, though.

I'm just going to go back to saying nothing now.

(And I had such a good story about saving a Hami raid from failure with Howling Twilight...)
Title: Re: Dark / Dark Questions
Post by: Azrael on May 08, 2019, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Vee on May 07, 2019, 11:38:41 PM
i'd skip petrifying gaze, black hole and probably torrent. never had dark pit so idk about it.

Skip Petri Gaze?  Holds freezes tricky customers..?   Ie what those dark Tsoo sorcs do to you when you're in the '...can't....move...must...break...free....' pose.  Love that power.

But I spot you Bob on the other two.  Black hole and torrent.  Meh to them.

Azrael.
Title: Re: Dark / Dark Questions
Post by: Azrael on May 08, 2019, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: eabrace on May 07, 2019, 11:51:24 PM
SHAME!

(https://welldoing.org/storage/app/uploads/public/5af/303/330/5af3033308acb233918344.jpg)

Sorry, Azrael.  I was going to quote your post and reply, but I apparently clicked the wrong button.  I think I managed to restore it, though.

I'm just going to go back to saying nothing now.

(And I had such a good story about saving a Hami raid from failure with Howling Twilight...)

You managed to restore something I said?  Impressive.  Something even 'I' can't to with 100% fault tolerance.  But well done on your omnipotent reconstruction...

Don't be so coy, Earbrace.   What were you going to say?  *bats eyelids.

Howling Twilight (a dark art...) saving Hamilton RAID failure?  If it's a good story?  I just gotta know. :)

Azrael.
Title: Re: Dark / Dark Questions
Post by: Vee on May 08, 2019, 12:48:07 PM
I remembered it only being a mag 2 hold but I'm away from mids so not sure. But seeing as they're all feared it struck me as a skippable. Ymmv.
Title: Re: Dark / Dark Questions
Post by: CoH Joe on May 10, 2019, 08:18:36 PM
So ... what does this look like to start?

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.96
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build! (http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=937&c=369&a=738&f=HEX&dc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

Level 26 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Dark Miasma
Secondary Power Set: Dark Blast
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leaping

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Twilight Grasp Level 1: Dark Blast Level 2: Tar Patch Level 4: Darkest Night Level 6: Gloom Level 8: Shadow Fall Level 10: Moonbeam Level 12: Fearsome Stare Level 14: Recall Friend Level 16: Tenebrous Tentacles Level 18: Teleport Level 20: Petrifying Gaze Level 22: Howling Twilight Level 24: Combat Jumping Level 26: [Empty]
Level 28: [Empty]
Level 30: [Empty]
Level 32: [Empty]
Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 1: Brawl Level 1: Prestige Power Dash Level 1: Prestige Power Slide Level 1: Prestige Power Quick Level 1: Prestige Power Rush Level 1: Prestige Power Surge Level 1: Sprint Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift Level 2: Health Level 2: Hurdle Level 2: Stamina ------------



Title: Re: Dark / Dark Questions
Post by: Azrael on May 13, 2019, 12:40:19 PM
Some cool dark powers in there.

Darkness Falls.  Is that the Toggle on self?  Or the one you place in a mob?

Been a while since I played mine.  I remember the powers.  The torrent and the nova were 'meh' but the rest had their uses.

Tentacles.  Stare & Gaze.  Darkest Night.  Gloom.  Dark Blast.  Grasp.  Key powers there.  Good start.

Let me know how you get on with it.  :)  Dark/Dark defender was so unique in the game.  Nothing else like it.  The art of 'not getting hit.'  Whilst you melt them.

I've rolled a Dominator dark/dark.  (I took the tar patch on the Demon MM 2ndary...great power.  Glues the mobs to slowville while you unleash the demons...)  To see how it compares.  I may even re-roll the def' dark/dark to remind me of how it goes again.

Some have said that the Dark/dark Controller is 'the best.'

Hmm.  To roll all three...

Azrael.