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Title: Update?
Post by: csills on June 09, 2009, 07:10:49 PM
Any update as to when we will have an i14 mids application?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on June 09, 2009, 09:18:14 PM
I'm having some fun with it... and putting it through very thorough number tests to make sure damn-near everything (numbers) matches up in-game as well as in-application.

However, the PvP IOs might require me to do something that would come off as a band-aid versus a permanent fix. I'm hoping to get it out before i15, but there is a good chance that it will have to wait until a few days after i15's release... since it's so close now, just makes sense.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tog on June 10, 2009, 07:16:06 AM
Heads up for the Dominator changes too.  Looks like they will be part of I-!5 now.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on June 10, 2009, 09:21:34 AM
Yea, I saw they got about a 30% increase on dmg out of Dom, and Sonics got hit pretty hard. Numbers keep changing every few days so it's hard to keep up lol.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tog on June 10, 2009, 12:07:17 PM
There were changes to Sonic?  The Buff or the Blast?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on June 10, 2009, 12:26:51 PM
I believe the blast half... can't really nerf the (de)buff... if it goes any lower it will be superseded by the other debuff sets and break COH's continuity for a "Balanced" game.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tog on June 10, 2009, 02:47:18 PM
No, I meant Sonic attack or Sonic Resonance.  Did they nerf the damage to the blast? Where did you see this?  I didn't see anything about it at all.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Aggelakis on June 10, 2009, 04:28:07 PM
Steiner's mistaken. Sonic didn't change at all. Only Dominators got tweaked, and doms don't have sonic attack OR sonic res.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: eabrace on June 10, 2009, 04:47:26 PM
Where's GuyPerfect when I need him and his toolbox?  :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on June 10, 2009, 07:39:37 PM
Steiner's mistaken. Sonic didn't change at all. Only Dominators got tweaked, and doms don't have sonic attack OR sonic res.
Correct!
It was Psionic Assault's tier 9 (Psychic Shockwave) I was regarding, had the wrong set in mind, apologies.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tog on June 11, 2009, 07:34:52 AM
Okay, cool.

I can't play Doms worth a crap, so the changes to PSW mean little to me.  On the other hand, Sonic Attack is my default blast set for new secondaries.  It didn't seem overpowered at all, and I didn't see any announcements or forum uproar over it, so I was a little concerned that it was being drowned out by the Dom Changes, MA changes, and collective grumbling about I-15.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 02, 2009, 04:54:27 PM
Looking in another thread about using manual update for the vet reward 60 month change,
does this mean we can update Mid's ourselves with the new specs for Dominators
(or any other changes that a player would use)
and not have to wait for a new release?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 02, 2009, 06:50:40 PM
You're more than welcome to make your own changes,  but a new release will happen soon enough.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tog on July 02, 2009, 09:37:14 PM
Looking in another thread about using manual update for the vet reward 60 month change,
does this mean we can update Mid's ourselves with the new specs for Dominators
(or any other changes that a player would use)
and not have to wait for a new release?


As the person that wrote that other post, I'd recommend against it.  As Mids explained that manual updater to me in another place and long ago, it's basically there for him to tweak things.  It can be used to update things, but There is a lot of stuff that needs to be done in a lot of places.  A fundamental change to the AT modifiers might not be accessible from there.

If it was just a simple change, like a single value, it's pretty simple.  For the changes that Dominators would need, well, it would be more. 
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 02, 2009, 11:30:28 PM
Yeah, after going through some of the motions with it I gathered I wouldn't be able to change a power's damage scale.  But, I was able to do the recharges, endurance etc. to match the patch notes.  I also noticed a few of the powers had incorrect values prior to the patch --- for example:

PATCH NOTES:
Psionic Dart: Increased this power's damage scale from .6 to 1.32, increased its recharge from 1.5 seconds to 3 seconds and increased its endurance cost from 3.12 to 4.37.



and in Mid's the endurance cost would be something other than 3.12. ---- I don't remember the exact powers that were wrong.

Oh, well, I guess I can be a bit more patient =)

Thanks for the replies, and I apologize to the OP for hijacking their thread.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 07, 2009, 06:16:25 PM
Heyas Steiner,

                          I was just wondering when the PvP sets for I 14 will be added to the Mid's planner.  I remember you saying something regarding them (something about bandaid), and that the release would probably be a few days after the launch of I 15.  Please post back your status on it. 

                                                                   Thank You,
                                                                                     Nightfire9 
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 07, 2009, 07:15:00 PM
Sadly, as Nicster has pointed out to me several times (lol), I'm quite over-loaded with my current Titan workload. Not to mention that I'm desperately seeking employment and any high-yield freelance jobs I can lay my paws on.

SO, We here at Titan decided to bring in some help with Mids. I will be handling the code half and the recruit will be handling the data-entry half. (Anonymity in-tact for the user's own benefit, I will announce the person when it is "official")
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 07, 2009, 08:46:11 PM
The following is not meant to be rude in anyway please, don't take it this way.

Do you have an estimate time of completion?

Suggestion, instead of releasing a FULLY updated version when it's
completed, how about releasing versions in steps of completion.

Example:
Version 1.401a -- *Updated power sets to reflect Issues 14 & 15 version
Version 1.401b -- *Updated to reflect pvp changes
Version 1.402   -- *Update complete!

I am very anxious to use this wonderful tool again!

Thanks you!


Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 07, 2009, 09:40:21 PM
That's pretty much the outline for the updates.

I can't garuntee a date, because every time I do I end up completely emersed in other things, I'm going to to play this one by ear. But since I have my data-entry help it should be much longer.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: eabrace on July 07, 2009, 10:06:51 PM
But since I have my data-entry help it should be much longer.

Don't panic, kids.  I'm sure he meant "shouldn't be much longer."  ;)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 07, 2009, 11:00:20 PM
lol, wow, missed that typo. Yea I did. Now I can't edit it or your joke post will lose it's funny. :(
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Catharctic on July 08, 2009, 08:33:19 PM
That's not the only typo you missed, but I won't point them out.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: tunch on July 13, 2009, 03:04:15 PM
i cant stop myself asking this but , how long will we have to wait for the neeeeeew designer? :D is there any way that we can help you steiner? or is it only some programming issues that keeps you busy?

I myself help you as much as i can with testing and veryfying infos , and im sure there are many more that wants to help you.. just ask if you need anything! :)

thnx for all your work , and i just have to say that we cant wait any longer :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 13, 2009, 04:22:58 PM
I know I know, it's hard on everyone, but it's more or less getting the time to do it...

Alright, I have 3 cans of RedBull and a whole day open to do this so, I will finish MxD and not move onto another project until it's ready.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: SaintNicster on July 13, 2009, 04:54:55 PM
I know I know, it's hard on everyone, but it's more or less getting the time to do it...

Alright, I have 3 cans of RedBull and a whole day open to do this so, I will finish MxD and not move onto another project until it's ready.
HA!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 13, 2009, 05:30:35 PM
ya ya, I'm a scatter brain, it's obvious... but when I got focused I'm... "I'm the Juggernaut <censored>".

(I'm on can 2 already, and 1/2 way done... I think )
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Catharctic on July 13, 2009, 06:34:36 PM
Everyone brace yourselves for your Mids update to delete your hard drive.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: eabrace on July 13, 2009, 06:45:52 PM
I laughed.    :D
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tazhyngarth on July 13, 2009, 08:19:50 PM
LOL, thanks Cath...just reminded me I need to back mine up anyway...
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 13, 2009, 09:50:10 PM
you guys are dicks... :(

I'm not messin' with the code yet, Just getting a usable up-to-date version done and out, having some trouble getting the images to cooperate.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: eabrace on July 13, 2009, 10:54:26 PM
Aw, we love ya Steiner.  *noogie*
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 14, 2009, 12:07:40 AM
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I'm not messin' with the code yet, Just getting a usable up-to-date version done and out, having some trouble getting the images to cooperate.

As long as we can get an updated version with the power sets done, I'd be happy.


Thank you for taking time to work on this!!!!!!!

+)
Title: Progress: 85%
Post by: Steiner on July 14, 2009, 03:15:48 PM
Ok, I got all the numbers up-to-date, now it's just the manual job of updating the enhancements with the 50 sum new enhancements from i14.

The only issue I'm having trouble with right now is that I'm a perfectionist and the images aren't displaying properly. I've consulted with Mids and he will let me know what's up.

If all goes to plan there should be a new MxD version available by Friday at the latest, as I'm not working on anything else until it's done.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Aggelakis on July 14, 2009, 05:16:37 PM
Out of curiosity, is there an easy way to update RedTomax with the new data you're using for Mids? Probably not, since RedTomax is from spreadsheets IIRC, and Mids' data is totally different setup...but I really like the Power Quantification pages.

[/threadjack]
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: SaintNicster on July 14, 2009, 05:20:16 PM
Out of curiosity, is there an easy way to update RedTomax with the new data you're using for Mids? Probably not, since RedTomax is from spreadsheets IIRC, and Mids' data is totally different setup...but I really like the Power Quantification pages.

[/threadjack]
RT is still on his own server, and as far as I know, he's the only one that can update it.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: eabrace on July 14, 2009, 05:33:20 PM
I was going to send you a PM, Agg, but it was blocked.   :gonk:
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Aggelakis on July 14, 2009, 06:06:47 PM
I was going to send you a PM, Agg, but it was blocked.   :gonk:
Errr, weird, it had an asterisk in the PM settings, which I never did... uhhh, well, I deleted it and should be able to get PMs now o.O
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: tunch on July 16, 2009, 08:42:54 PM
yay! thnx for the hard work steiner! and its better to start on work for i16 as you will have lots of skill swapping through vills and heroes!

cant wait for the next mids , thanx again!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 16, 2009, 11:09:35 PM
Oh wow... I just realized that..... oh... oh wow... I'm going to be a busy mofo in the up coming months, lol.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Aggelakis on July 17, 2009, 02:29:32 AM
yay! thnx for the hard work steiner! and its better to start on work for i16 as you will have lots of skill swapping through vills and heroes!
Issue 16 is NOT Going Rogue. (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Issue_16#Issue_16_vs._Going_Rogue)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 17, 2009, 02:33:53 AM
I really hope everyone realizes that by now, lol :D!

Though there will still be a great deal of work because i16 is going to poliferate a lot of powers across the archetypes.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: tunch on July 17, 2009, 08:48:25 AM
Issue 16 is NOT Going Rogue. (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Issue_16#Issue_16_vs._Going_Rogue)

YES I KNOW!   ;D

I really hope everyone realizes that by now, lol :D!

Though there will still be a great deal of work because i16 is going to poliferate a lot of powers across the archetypes.

thats what i was trying to say :)

so steiner , who will work on the i16 then? we need a new man by the looks of your busyness  :P
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 17, 2009, 08:53:13 AM
Well. I brought someone in to help with MxD... however availability and life are factors for everyone.

I'm calling in a few favors that might prove worth while... I'm still standing by my deadline... since it's 4:51am on the Friday I was hoping to release the new version... I'm going to give myself till the end of the day to release it.

Title: Re: Update?
Post by: tunch on July 17, 2009, 09:23:50 AM
well mate , we can wait for a 1 day or 2 , so dont take it too hard!  :D
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Big B2200 on July 17, 2009, 02:11:28 PM
Well. I brought someone in to help with MxD... however availability and life are factors for everyone.

I'm calling in a few favors that might prove worth while... I'm still standing by my deadline... since it's 4:51am on the Friday I was hoping to release the new version... I'm going to give myself till the end of the day to release it.  


Just the fact that your working on it is good for me, although like the majority I am paitently waiting. If there is anything that can be done to help now or in the future Just ask.

Thank you for your hard work!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Catwhoorg on July 17, 2009, 05:39:28 PM
*taps foot and looks over Steiners virtual shoulder*

Management seems to think that helps in many business

 ???
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: tunch on July 17, 2009, 06:13:38 PM
dumdududum dumdududum dumdudum

"drums rolling"

:D
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Sili on July 18, 2009, 03:30:58 PM
Well friday has come and gone any new info on an update?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 18, 2009, 05:23:56 PM
Yuppers, I have done my part to get it up-to-date. I have my entry data dude plopping the pvo IOs in there so I can buy myself some more time to release a new version of Mids with repaired bugs and the features that REALLY need to be added like the one you just asked about it in another thread regarding Dim-Returns.

He's on vacation with is family and is currently doing this in his free time while in a hotel room... so I'm not expecting much until later tonight if not tomorrow.

This is the last thing that needs to be done before and updated Mids will be released.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 18, 2009, 06:58:46 PM
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He's on vacation with is family and is currently doing this in his free time while in a hotel room

Geeez, while I appreciate the thought that this just might get updated I can't help but remember back to a site I used to belong to and read things like this when they didn't update their product in time.  Sorry, I guees I will relinquish my hopes in seeing an update for this product any time soon.  I don't want my hopes to use it crushed (like the loose Friday deadline that just occured) again when I read the next reply stating...

He was in an accident when on vacation with his family and now so-in-so will be helping but, he's working 12 hour days and will do it in his free time

Just release what you've got already.  Do it in versions like I said before.  It was perfectly FINE to use before, can you just update the powers since the last issue this thing was published and release it!  I don't care how pretty the icons need to look.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: captrench on July 18, 2009, 07:47:16 PM
calm down guys, last thing i want to see is someone losing motivation to do something for free, for the CoX community, just because of people flaming him. Bottom line is it IS a freebie, he DOESN'T have to do anything. Also, i would rather have it released "finished" than "Just release what you've got already". from my point of view, so long as its being worked on and i get something eventually thats good enough for me.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tog on July 18, 2009, 08:43:46 PM
calm down guys, last thing i want to see is someone losing motivation to do something for free, for the CoX community, just because of people flaming him. Bottom line is it IS a freebie, he DOESN'T have to do anything. Also, i would rather have it released "finished" than "Just release what you've got already". from my point of view, so long as its being worked on and i get something eventually thats good enough for me.

I totally agree with this.  There are at least two people working on a project that isn't their creation, for no compensation.  They deserve thanks and praise for even trying t keep it going.  If they didn't pick it up, the version we have now would be the only one out there unless some new came a long and whipped one up from scratch.

As to the release what you've got, even if the icon's don't look good thing, no.  He's taken a tool that has been used for a couple of years and despite the odd flaw or two (just found a new one today BTW), has been a great, well polished tool.  Then Mid's quits work on it.  If the first update hits and is incomplete and looks soppy, people will will cry doom.  There will be a lot of negative talk about Steiner and his ability, ignoring completely the reality of the situation.

No.  This first update under his watch should be the best he's capable of creating, and from his posts, he knows that, and is working hard on it.  I don't recall ever seen a hard and fast date for release of anything yet.  Friday was a goal.  It missed.  It happens.  I really don't even want to get into the example about speculative reason for the next possible delay.  It would be-- unkind.

Steiner, some of us for sure, and I suspect most of us, understand the situation and while anxious for a new version, are keeping things in perspective.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Sili on July 18, 2009, 09:29:56 PM
hehe, this thred is starting to look like broadcast in Recluse Victory.  As i say there "good times"

Thanks for the update steiner
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Aggelakis on July 19, 2009, 05:21:50 AM
... Sorry, I guees I will relinquish my hopes in seeing an update for this product any time soon.  I don't want my hopes to use it crushed (like the loose Friday deadline that just occured) again ...

...

Just release what you've got already.  Do it in versions like I said before.  It was perfectly FINE to use before, can you just update the powers since the last issue this thing was published and release it!  ...
Better to do it right the first time, then having to update, tweak, update, tweak, update, tweak.

By the way, Steiner never gave a firm "yes, it will happen on X"... he said he wanted it done on Friday. He said he'd do everything he needed to do. Now it's in the hands of his "data entry drone" (  ;) ), who is doing this in his free time ON VACATION. Maybe you didn't see that the first time. The person is taking his VACATION free time and using it for Mids instead of for himself.

It didn't get done on Friday. That is neither a broken promise nor a missed deadline.

Next time you get antsy about the update process on Mids (or its delays), maybe you should do it yourself. All of the numbers are fully editable by you. ;)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 19, 2009, 05:40:13 AM
I'm good.

Just kind of bewilders me to see such malice and malcontent over something like this... now I know why my "data entry drone" as you put it Agge wants to stay in the gray. He even told me that he wanted to stay in the gray to avoid being harassed like this, lol.

Oh well, I'm numb to it. I do this stuff for the users who appreciate what I do, not the few knuckleheads who thinks their priorities are more important that everyone else's.

Well, I'm a forgive and forget type (some might say to a fault) so I don't don't hold a grudge, I'm too lazy to hold a grudge, right? lol
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Feugan on July 19, 2009, 11:56:59 AM
I just stumbled onto this forum from some threads I was reading in the US forums... I am not sure if it is still a problem, but you mentioned you were having trouble with the icons for the PvP sets? I also encountered this when I added them into my mids designer... Although by now I am guessing mids has let you in on the secret to how he does it, I will tell you how I got around it also.

I ended up having to use 2 different images, one for the Invention editor and the others for the Enhancement editor. for the Inventions I used the larger images from your wiki site - http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Category:Invention_Art... the images here get scaled down to fit nice and snug into the spot. The first couple I did had some extra colours around the side, but that all clears off once you've added it for each set you've created... but when you open up the set, the enhancements icons themselves are huge... so for those ones I made seperate images to the scale of the current icons in the /images files in mids...

It seems to work fine for me that way, but you probably have a better fix for it after talking to mids... but just incase you don't then thhhere you go  :D

Looking forward to your work in the future, I only just found out that mids is going to be updated again... I was under the assumption it was left deserted, so it was awesome to hear you've taken on the job... and what a job it is... took me forever to add those PvP recipes in myself. Goodluck! ;D
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 19, 2009, 12:09:02 PM
I did pretty much everything you said at first. But yea, Mids broke it down for me.

I'm used to doing high DPI images... 200 is my default.

WELLLLLL, VB.NET seems to have a small hitch against displaying pngs... they have to match the screen's DPI.

So I simply dropped the DPI to 100 (though most screens are 72, 100 seems to fit the best), made the image 30x30px the inside image 22x22px and I only had to use the one image for all the icons for that IO.

Thanks for lookin out though!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Feugan on July 19, 2009, 12:17:34 PM
Awsumsauce ;D

I'm looking forward to the update, my self update is very floored, I could not seem to get the range/repel set bonuses and panacea procs to work properly... good to know we have someone who knows their way around this kind of stuff working on it
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 19, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Just so I can explain why I got frustrated earlier it's because I'm anxious (yes, I need to get a life), and also because of these two statements made earlier:

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I will finish MxD and not move onto another project until it's ready.

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Just getting a usable up-to-date version done and out


As I said, I, and many others had been jaded in another forum a long time ago, albeit a program used for an MMO paid for, with post after post of how they were in the process of updating it and HINTED at deadlines and releases [soon].  I was caught up in a past moment.

I apologize for my rudeness.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 19, 2009, 04:21:39 PM
I accept,

However you shouldn't really quote me unless I slap the words "guarantee" or "promise". And in all contrast, I literally sat down in front of my computer for 8 hours Thursday figuring the ins and outs of the MxD code and how to use it properly without creating more issues for the users. I've only moved on to eliminating some bugs from our "list" while I wait for the work I delegated out to be done.

We're "understaffed" and the few people that I trust to help with the MxD are not available accept one who read this thread and said "Well, if they're giving you this much hell over it, I'll do it on my vacation while the kids are asleep" (paraphrasing). So he's really doing me (and you by proxy) as HUGE solid (/favor).

I sincerely appologize for the negative flashback this caused you,  but we're not them... and just like I tell my GF; I don't think it is fair to automatically judge a person or situation because of someone's mistake in your past.

Everyone has their reasons to be frustrated and it's only fair to speak your mind here... but others will speak theirs and there is a good chance they will speak against it...


Anyways, it's all cool. I know you meant well, I'm not worried about it.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 19, 2009, 04:54:59 PM
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I don't think it is fair to automatically judge a person or situation because of someone's mistake in your past.

Well taken, thank you!!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: tunch on July 19, 2009, 05:22:02 PM

I sincerely appologize for the negative flashback this caused you,  but we're not them... and just like I tell my GF; I don't think it is fair to automatically judge a person or situation because of someone's mistake in your past.


I think we all aggree here with that part , but not sure if any girls around understand that last sentence  ;D
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: AlienOne on July 19, 2009, 09:40:18 PM
Just want to say I really like this program... It's given me a new reason to delve even further into CoH, and Steiner, I really appreciate you taking up the mantle (so to speak) on this. I appreciate it greatly.

AlienOne
(Better known as "The One" on the CoH forums)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tazhyngarth on July 20, 2009, 12:29:39 PM
I think we all aggree here with that part , but not sure if any girls around understand that last sentence  ;D
/agreed LOL!  I still argue with my GF about stupid crap from the past >_<...
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 20, 2009, 03:40:26 PM
Heard from my MxD "Data Drone" and he's stated he's got everything he needs and will be getting the updates to me in the in the next day or so.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Aggelakis on July 20, 2009, 05:22:56 PM
I think we all aggree here with that part , but not sure if any girls around understand that last sentence  ;D
Huh, I'm not laughing... wonder why... hmm... maybe because that's sexism.
(More and more women play games these days, I would be careful where you throw around comments like that.)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: tunch on July 20, 2009, 11:00:50 PM
well , I'll stand by with my "comment" because there IS sexicsm , specially between man and woman as we look very different to several things :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 20, 2009, 11:26:06 PM
Men will always have their default view of woman and vice-versa. It's not woman who can't grasp my quote, it's just that sort of person that can't admit their insecurities with new situations being based on past events.

Nothing to do with gender, absolutely everything to do with pride. Woman are prideful... stick to their guns. I respect the hell out of that.

(Helped my sister with her thesis in psychology, lol.)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 21, 2009, 03:54:07 PM
Steiner,
       
                The part where you said women "stick to their guns".  I agree that that's mostly true, but it really doesn't get them nice names for being so.  Heck, I myself am a woman.  I've been called horrible things, for being smart, voicing my opinions, and "sticking to my guns".  I think it's really just something that's one of those so called "nature vs. nurture" things. 
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tazhyngarth on July 21, 2009, 04:30:14 PM
I just want everyone to know that my Post agreeing with that comment was only addressing my GF, and not the general public.  Personal experience allows me to say I've seen this happen in my life, can't say it's true for every aspect.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: eabrace on July 21, 2009, 04:52:09 PM
On the bright side, we've managed to entirely take the heat off of Steiner and the Mids' update.

... Or we had until now anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 21, 2009, 05:02:05 PM
yea, I can see how that could be a reasonable explanation. Didn't mean to offend, just making a general observation.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Catwhoorg on July 21, 2009, 05:02:48 PM
*looks over various peoples shoulders and taps foot*

:)

Honestly if the data-drone gets it entered I would feel like yelling at them for wasting family vacation time.

RL pwns gaming in every situation.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 22, 2009, 06:05:51 PM
Any word from the Mxd "Data Drone"?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 22, 2009, 07:08:51 PM
Yup. Got it back just an hour ago and I'm fixing it up because the right-click enhancement chooser window isn't big enough anymore, lol.

Should have a new version out by the end of the day! Keep an eye on Titan, because the program is still looking at Mids' site for the update info... the new version will be an overwriting install able to be downloaded from http://cohplanner.com. Again, keep your eye on it. A news post will be applied upon its launch.

It will still have most the bugs from the previous version, but releasing this will buy me more time to get rid of those.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 22, 2009, 07:56:21 PM
I'm just curious as to what kinds of bugs there are in the I 13 version of the Mid's planner.  I really only used the program to build my crab spider.  I hope it's not too long of a list, as you've got your hands full enough as is.  So, if there's maybe a link that lists all of them somewhere, please just post that here.  Again, thank you, for keeping all of us updated through the many phases of the I 14 update :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 22, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
They're listed here (http://cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,1323.0.html). Just keep in mind the bugs are relative to the last big release from last summer.

It shouldn't effect the casual user, but the power users might run into a few things. Again though, the numbers will probably be mostly accurate, but as always MxD doesn't account for EVERYTHING the game has, like Dim-Returns and things in those lines.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: St0n3y on July 23, 2009, 02:16:58 AM
Must have been a lot more broken then Steiner thought.   lolz
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 23, 2009, 01:02:48 PM
Well... just a little. But like I said this version won't fix anything other than missing IOs and correct the numbers. Hopefully by the next release (meaning after this one) there will be a full-blown error free version. Then we move onto adding features, keep in mind this will be a longer than usual process... only because I try not release anything half-as... oops <censored> lol. You get the point.

Be strong you MxDers, your patience will soon be rewarded!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Shorts on July 23, 2009, 02:11:07 PM
Hopefully by the next release (meaning after this one) there will be a full-blown error free version.
(Emphasis for clarity) Hope is the second to last thing to abandon a human. Sanity being the last. This sentence borders on being an oxymoron since it contains both "hope" and lack of sanity ("error free").  ;D

That is unless you have a different definition on "error free" than I have.

*Walks away whistling innocently, hoping he didn't start another flame war...*
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 23, 2009, 02:26:35 PM
I do.

My version of error free is, no error caused by the program, only the user, BOO YAH! .... would you like some ice for that burn? lol

Same ideas I had for Glycerine, it would be virtually error free, meaning you wouldn't see them. It would just log them and possibly send them to the server for me to make sure they don't happen on the next version.

Sort of like a mandatory "Submit Bug Report" that goes on in the background... however I will make it so it can be turned off in the options so users do feel like they're expending even more much needed resources.

...smartass......lol
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Shorts on July 23, 2009, 02:42:09 PM
...smartass......lol
Yeah. I get that a lot.  :roll:

Your definition seems valid enough though.  8)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 23, 2009, 02:43:04 PM
I feel more redeemed as each day passes.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 23, 2009, 04:11:58 PM
Hopefully not too much went wrong/got broken.  Do you think we'll see an update later today or if not tomorrow morning/afternoon?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 23, 2009, 04:37:18 PM
Well. I told a few people on Official forums Friday at the latest.

So: I promise an updated release of MxD by 12-noon Friday the 24th of July (US/Eastern) at the latest.

 ;D
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: tunch on July 23, 2009, 04:47:52 PM
well looks like ill miss the first 2 day of new designer! hopefully ill get it when i got back :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 23, 2009, 04:56:22 PM
lol might be a good thing. I don't expect this thing to be flawless the first time out, I'll probably have to release a couple of tweaked versions before the weekend ends.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Catwhoorg on July 23, 2009, 05:23:42 PM
Well. I told a few people on Official forums Friday at the latest.

So: I promise an updated release of MxD by 12-noon Friday the 24th of July (US/Eastern) at the latest.

 ;D

You did say we can quote you on stuff when you promise, right ?

Thanks in advance for all the hard work getting this update out.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 23, 2009, 05:54:00 PM
'twas why I threw promise in bold, LOL.

(Only reason I'm looking here is because Cath just pinged me and went "Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock,..." lol )
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Catharctic on July 23, 2009, 05:56:27 PM
You can't use that as an excuse. I didn't tell you to leave your Skype running.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 23, 2009, 06:00:00 PM
my skype is for my freelance business... It's always running. Same as your mouth! BUAH HAHAHA
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tazhyngarth on July 23, 2009, 06:31:28 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Catharctic on July 23, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
You guys need to learn what real humor is. (http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=789)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tazhyngarth on July 24, 2009, 12:23:28 PM
I am so throwing that up into a Presentation for our classes here at the Academy.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 24, 2009, 01:55:24 PM
Ok, Back to MxD.

Ran into a few snags... the biggest one being there isn't a working deployment tool for this (the thing that makes the app install)... I'm waiting on Mids' to send me it, but since he's London time, it might not be until later tonight (as it seems his time for computer activity).

I will still be releasing a version at noon, but it will be HEAVILY improvised... and will require that you already have the old copy installed on your system... because I don't know what his deployment tool really did... All I can do is update the data and the MxD exe so it displays our additions correctly.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Sili on July 24, 2009, 04:05:00 PM
I see you looking at this thread stiener. . . . . so whats the word big perm, i mean big worm
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 24, 2009, 04:06:31 PM
Alrighty. I'm an idiot. Mids helped me realize I did have it...

I'm running a little late, I hope you all can understand.

I have all the info, I'm just trying to get this deployment tool to use the new data versus the data the installer is packed with.


SOOOOOoooo.
Within the next hour there will be a new MxD to download, once you've downloaded it you will notice that the database is still not i15. If you have updates automatically set to ON, should just go on line and grab the files it needs... otherwise you'll have to force Mids to update. (Not even sure you can turn off updates...).

It's the only way I can do it because my data drone and I went about adding the new data the wrong way I guess. lol.

You'll also notice that the enhancement picker (right click on power slot) is stretched out... well, thanks to the PVP IOs, the amount of enhancements have broken the boundaries. You might be saying to yourself, "Why didn't you just extend the height", Believe Me! I tried! lol. We'll just have to deal with the slightly wider box until I can figure out the height thing (it's hard-coded and a pain). I honestly like the width-long box because all 6 IOs from a set fit on the first line, lol.


I'll let everyone know here if any of the above changed, however, I made a promise that it will be released today that will NOT change. I will release it, even if it is a little late to the time I claimed. Hope you'll understand.

Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Sili on July 24, 2009, 04:09:53 PM
somebody grab him and ill kick em.  lol, ill just be glad to finally see the pvp sets.  Thanks for all the work.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 24, 2009, 04:44:37 PM
Alrighty. I'm an idiot. Mids helped me realize I did have it...

I'm running a little late, I hope you all can understand.

I have all the info, I'm just trying to get this deployment tool to use the new data versus the data the installer is packed with.


SOOOOOoooo.
Within the next hour there will be a new MxD to download, once you've downloaded it you will notice that the database is still not i15. If you have updates automatically set to ON, should just go on line and grab the files it needs... otherwise you'll have to force Mids to update. (Not even sure you can turn off updates...).

It's the only way I can do it because my data drone and I went about adding the new data the wrong way I guess. lol.

You'll also notice that the enhancement picker (right click on power slot) is stretched out... well, thanks to the PVP IOs, the amount of enhancements have broken the boundaries. You might be saying to yourself, "Why didn't you just extend the height", Believe Me! I tried! lol. We'll just have to deal with the slightly wider box until I can figure out the height thing (it's hard-coded and a pain). I honestly like the width-long box because all 6 IOs from a set fit on the first line, lol.


I'll let everyone know here if any of the above changed, however, I made a promise that it will be released today that will NOT change. I will release it, even if it is a little late to the time I claimed. Hope you'll understand.



So, am I to understand this correctly,

- power changes which occured with Issue 15 were NOT updated in this MxD only PVP IO's?  I did not understand your explaination of going online and grabbing updates....updates for I15?

You stated It's the only way I can do it because my data drone and I went about adding the new data the wrong way I guess. lol.

Does this mean the updates have not been added?


Just curious, because the flashbacks are happening again with amazing coincidence!!   :)
Maybe it would be better if the proverbial carrot was stopped from dangling in front of us until it matures/ripens.  I think THAT is what's frustrating me the most and I hate myself for getting this riled up over a game!  LOL.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 24, 2009, 04:54:53 PM
nono. Everything will be there, just it's going to be more than one step to get.

You'll have to install a new version of MxD that links to the right site for the updates, and then it's going to download the new data from the right site.


Everything is still being grabbed from Mids' old server, so I had to change that up.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 24, 2009, 05:13:28 PM
AWESOME
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Lady Arete on July 24, 2009, 06:44:42 PM
Waiting with anticipation for the result Steiner
So looking forward to the announcement.  :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 24, 2009, 06:59:32 PM
My money is on it won't happen today.  If it does, I'll make a donation. 

After being being ridiculed for being impatient and then told unless a "promise" was made I shouldn't quote, I feel completely redeemed.

But, I remain apologetic for being so rude about it.

yes, it's a free program.  yes, people are working on it for free and owe us nothing.  I just hate (flashback in progress) being given a reason to have big anticipations and then let down - not once but serveral times.  I so regret bumping this thread and asking if an update was in the work with an estimated date.

{little voice inside my head telling me}....Get a life

LOL
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: SaintNicster on July 24, 2009, 07:10:15 PM
That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth give a release date or time
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Catharctic on July 24, 2009, 07:13:28 PM
*Tick*...

(/e Ducks the flying dagger from Steiner.)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Energy Aura on July 24, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
My money is on it won't happen today.  If it does, I'll make a donation. 

After being being ridiculed for being impatient and then told unless a "promise" was made I shouldn't quote, I feel completely redeemed.

But, I remain apologetic for being so rude about it.

yes, it's a free program.  yes, people are working on it for free and owe us nothing.  I just hate (flashback in progress) being given a reason to have big anticipations and then let down - not once but serveral times.  I so regret bumping this thread and asking if an update was in the work with an estimated date.

{little voice inside my head telling me}....Get a life

LOL

Funny thing is you are getting all excited over a maybe on a freebie.  I would wait patiently after all, aside from the recent Dom changes and PvP enhances, nothing big has changed.  Mids still works fine and I use it daily!!!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Prez on July 24, 2009, 08:29:49 PM
Yeah, I know.  I'm a spoiled brat who needs to have the latest and greatest =) [no sarcasm ment, it's true!]

I'm taking it too personal - like I need to have it now...lol.  I can wait, it's more of being told
ok, I give it to you in 1hour. 
Nope, 1 day
nope 1 day and 2 hours
nope, by noon,
nope.

I'd rather be told or read at the beginning

I'm working on it and it should be out when I get it finished.  That may be tomorrow or by the end of the year.

At least I'd know not to bother having any anticipation of using an updated product in the near furtue.  I'm sure Steiner will do this next time there's a game update that affects Mid's  :o

I'm gonna sit back the rest of the day and wait.  If I see the update, I'll download it, come back to say thank you and then hit that donation button.  If not, oh well, I'm sure he/they gave it their best shot at getting out to us no matter what was said.

[looks around the net]...... is there an iTunes update I need?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: SaintNicster on July 24, 2009, 08:52:14 PM
Yeah, I know.  I'm a spoiled brat who needs to have the latest and greatest =) [no sarcasm ment, it's true!]

I'm taking it too personal - like I need to have it now...lol.  I can wait, it's more of being told
ok, I give it to you in 1hour. 
Nope, 1 day
nope 1 day and 2 hours
nope, by noon,
nope.

I'd rather be told or read at the beginning

I'm working on it and it should be out when I get it finished.  That may be tomorrow or by the end of the year.

At least I'd know not to bother having any anticipation of using an updated product in the near furtue.  I'm sure Steiner will do this next time there's a game update that affects Mid's  :o

I'm gonna sit back the rest of the day and wait.  If I see the update, I'll download it, come back to say thank you and then hit that donation button.  If not, oh well, I'm sure he/they gave it their best shot at getting out to us no matter what was said.

[looks around the net]...... is there an iTunes update I need?
Hurray for attempted bribery.  Dude, go outside and take a walk.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: EEEKK on July 24, 2009, 08:56:20 PM
QR

Actually we should let Prez in on our little secret now that Mid is about to be release.

Prez... we actually all decided through PMs that it would be fun to keep posting it would be out soon, just to piss you off cause you are a spoiled, impatient, little brat (your words not mine).

So there... the cat is out of the bag.  But only because it will be out soon.  ...or maybe a little later than soon?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 24, 2009, 09:32:43 PM
How's the deployment tool thing coming along Steiner?  I'm only asking out of concern. 
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Sili on July 24, 2009, 11:26:28 PM
So anyone know where we stand on the update?? I think its past noon everwhere in the world now, lol.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Mids Hero Designer on July 24, 2009, 11:54:47 PM
I knew I shouldnt have let Steiner work on this program. Due to the lateness and absence of an update 8 hours after said release time of 12:00 P.M. US/Eastern time, I am hereby taking away Steiner's abilitys of modding this program. Also, since no one can be responsible enough to keep track of the rapid updates, and I am too busy to do so IRL, I am shutting down the Mid's Hero/Villain Designer update and data server. There will be no more future updates to Mid's Hero/Villain designer. Thanks!

P.S.: I am holding the serverz hostage until everyone donates 100 THOUSAND dollars each! MUHA HA HA HA!!

This post is tottally real. 100% not fake. Expect no update. D00M.


I am not the real Mids. Mids posts under the username "Mids". <-- :O GASPTH, how dare you..
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Aggelakis on July 25, 2009, 12:51:06 AM
Prez, I'm starting to get sick of your entitlement issues.

Steiner will get it out when it gets out. Whining about it will not make it go faster.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 25, 2009, 01:33:58 AM
I'm not going to read a thing (new) on this thread only because I know from past experiences that some people just can't be understanding of other people and I really don't want to read anything that will discourage my decision in releasing this.

Update:
Ran into a few snags, seems Mids' changed the way the info get's databased due to Vista's UAC all updates, including database updates, will be required a full download & install (from this point forward)... and because of this the file that my data drone prepared with all the new correct enhancements is useless... however I type at about 100wpm so transferring the data over now that it's there was beyond faster than I originally thought. (still took a few hours as you can see... but still that's fast! lol).

Summary: It's still on for today! Might be the absolute wee hours of the night, but I made a promise and I don't break them! I might bend them, but I don't break them. I would consider releasing it the day I promised instead of the exact time a bend and I hope you will all consider it the same.

Ok, back to work, maybe 2 hours of work left to do, I have to add some procs for the pvp ios and modify some powers that didn't allow you to "green light" (activate) them as toggles before and the new one will be released.

Again thank you for understanding the situation, a lot came up in a small amount of time but I've been working on this thing since 3am last night/this morning and have only stopped for Bio and food... so :D It's gunna be a relaxing weekend.

I will most likely be required that you do a complete uninstall of prior versions of Mids, backing up anything you think you would need to, I'm Steiner... believe me when I say backing up your data is ALWAYS a good option when using things I've touched, lol.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: epic on July 25, 2009, 02:07:36 AM
GO GO Gadget. Do we get to test it  first. :o
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 25, 2009, 02:18:47 AM
Chuck E. Cheese... get out of here! lol You just want to pick on me like you do vent... ash-whole.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: epic on July 25, 2009, 02:24:52 AM
Well u tease these guys on here with a post, you torment me with it on vent. lol  JK, you know that. 
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 25, 2009, 02:57:27 AM
Alrighty folks!

http://www.cohplanner.com/

Download away!

BACKUP EVERYTHING YOU HOLD PRECIOUS IN THE MXD DIRECTORY! I'm new to this and unsure of the adverse effects of my toying, lol.

The only thing that is missing is the procs for the chance for 10% repel resist on the PvP IOs. My data drone and I are going to find a better way to include those into the procs.

Things You Should Know:
The PVP IOs are actually TWO sets. The set with the PVP set bonuses has "(PvP)" after its name and the one without is obviously the PvE bonuses.

If you need to contrast the set bonuses, simply hold down shift and right-click the power, it will toggle the comparison slots (not new, just relatively unused). And repeat to flip them back.

Yes we plan to incorporate the bonuses for the totals into the PVP/E flag in the upper right hand corner of MxD by the next release.


I'm aware there are going to be issues, but no one is allowed to bug me until Monday about MxD! lol... but seriously I need to sleep and I'm kind of disgusted with MxD right now, so I will break myself away before it breaks me.

Now that I have my head fully wrapped around the ins-and-outs of MxD it will be MUCH less painless for everyone to get out future releases.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: macskull on July 25, 2009, 03:08:23 AM
People are reporting that they are unable to open builds from older versions with today's update.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 25, 2009, 03:10:38 AM
oh great... I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Frost Elf D on July 25, 2009, 03:16:20 AM
it says: Unable to read data - Unable to read beyond the end of the stream.   ???
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: macskull on July 25, 2009, 03:22:27 AM
Also, others on the official forums have pointed out:

1. The "Accolade" virtual power is missing
2. All the PvP enhancements are flagged as unique, whereas only the Panacea +HP/+End, Shield Wall +3 res, and Gladiator's Armor +3 def should be flagged as such.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: ChaosAlmighty on July 25, 2009, 03:30:38 AM
Amusing bug;
the 3% defense PVP IO is acting as a global damage buff. 15.9% damage buff. Fun but... not very useful for defense

So is the 3% resistance!

Also the PVP IOs aren't acting unique in powers meaning I can slot multiple of one set IO into a power.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 25, 2009, 03:36:50 AM
Resorting link back to prior version. too many issues.

I'm beginning to understand why Mids felt he didn't have enough time to develop this anymore.

I'm going to goto bed... I've been up since 3 this morning working on this just to find out it was all pointless. I'll be back on in day or two...
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: ChaosAlmighty on July 25, 2009, 03:43:06 AM
Resorting link back to prior version. too many issues.

I'm beginning to understand why Mids felt he didn't have enough time to develop this anymore.

I'm going to goto bed... I've been up since 3 this morning working on this just to find out it was all pointless. I'll be back on in day or two...

Thank you Steiner for at least trying. We really do appreciate it.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: ChaosAlmighty on July 25, 2009, 04:06:22 AM
For those who still want to use the update Steiner made here is how to make the PVP globals (res/def) work.
First; in order for the 3% defense and Res IOs to work you need to tie their bonuses into their sets.
This is done (at least from the client) by going to the Database Editor-> Invention Set  Editor then selecting the appropriate set and Edit.
Then where it says bonus for slotting you scroll down to the global and then find its bonus in the list. double click the bonus so it applies.  Now under set bonuses it should display  Special Case enhancement : whatever you're fixing. Save it and these IOs will now work.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Energy Aura on July 25, 2009, 04:15:44 AM
I think since Steiner manipulated the size of the window in the UI (in the program code) that these errors are not from lack of effort or knowledge but from constant work since 3am yesterday morning.

Trying to meet his self appointed deadline that he put out there to give all of the WHERE IS IT people a bone, now results in a rollback because some people can't EFFING wait.

I hope all you people who have been hitting him up with WHEN WHEN WHEN, are happy with the result.  Since this will no doubt cause further delays, I feel you are all getting your just desserts...

Cheers!!!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: ChaosAlmighty on July 25, 2009, 04:28:43 AM
Quote
If someone can pass the message along to him, please thank Steiner for his efforts.
-Human Being on the Official Forums (http://boards.cityofvillains.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=13801773&page=0&vc=1)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Lady Arete on July 25, 2009, 07:24:04 AM
Wishing you a good sleep Steiner and a good weekend.
May you wake up refreshed and prepare for what you plan in the weekend. :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 25, 2009, 01:17:06 PM
Thanks to my internal clock... I can't get more than 8 hours sleep... so here I am reading up.

Thanks to everyone who cares and understands. I will be giving it another go this weekend. See if I can fix what's up with it.

One of the biggest differences is that MxD changed it's data folder from ../Data to ../Roaming and file type is different now... Mids was in the middle of deprecating the ../Data/file.mhd and upgrading it to ../Roaming/file.mxdb when he passed the torch and wasn't prepared for the change and as you could see the code and myself just started to fall over, lol.

For the most part yesterday I was running on fumes and didn't notice a lot of things... this weekend will be different. With no time constraints I'll find myself working at a reasonable pace and not at the, "I should have just let Mids retire this damn thing" attitude I had last night.

Well, I'm going to go try and eat something and hopefully it will make me full enough to feel sleepy and I'll try and get a few more Zs.

I'll keep everyone posted. Have I told you users lately that I love you! lol It's true. (Most of you) Are just f'n great!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: shred_monkey on July 25, 2009, 01:27:54 PM
Keep up the work.  We all appreciate the work that it takes.  I know personally, when its updated again, I'll happily donate yet again, just to support you guys.

Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 25, 2009, 01:41:05 PM
That would be most helpful, just as long as you don't have entitlement issues like our friend Prez, lol.

(It was a jab at Prez not you shred, :D)


Just an FYI, my data drone and I (He will be named very soon) are going to attack this thing full force and figure out what went wrong, so now you have two people working on it... it's gunna be fun!

Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 25, 2009, 03:18:25 PM
I can't seem to get Mid's to update.  I uninstalled previous versions, went to the link that Steiner posted for the update, and even after putting Mid's back on, went under options to try and get it to update. 

Anyone possibly know what might be wrong?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Catharctic on July 25, 2009, 03:30:16 PM
Just an FYI, my data drone and I (He will be named very soon) are going to attack this thing full force and figure out what went wrong, so now you have two people working on it... it's gunna be fun!

It could be as "simple" as a few typos Steiner. Thanks for taking a huge stab at it. I know you'll be able to get it working correctly. The silver lining is that you've got a lot of people cheering you on who are going to fine-tooth comb every build that goes out. This is going to end up being a community effort more like Mids was upon it's original release.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 25, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
I can't seem to get Mid's to update.  I uninstalled previous versions, went to the link that Steiner posted for the update, and even after putting Mid's back on, went under options to try and get it to update. 

Anyone possibly know what might be wrong?

I rolled it back to the old version because the one recently released was flawed beyond comprehension.


Thanks for the kind words Cath.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 25, 2009, 03:51:46 PM
Oh ok.  I thought I was losing my mind  ;D  Anyways, I and the rest of the Titan/CoX community would like to thank you for your continued effort with the whole Mid's program.  Also, please don't feel discouraged by some people on here (Prez), if anything take their negativity and turn it into your positive  ;D (nothing is funnier and more gratifying than making people eat their words).  We all know that you can do it.  As for rolling back the update, well things happen and I think we'd all (or most of us) would rather wait for things to get clarified.  Go ahead and try to get some sleep, you deserve it :) *Hugs*


As for Prez and anyone else who are "impatient, whiny brats": WAITING FOR GOOD RESULTS, NEVER KILLED ANYONE YET.  So, put your binkies in your mouths and stop whining.
                                                                     
                                                                                                                                   
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Vanum on July 25, 2009, 06:17:46 PM
...flawed beyond comprehension.

I think the phrase you're looking for is FUBAR. Just fight the temptation to throw your computer out the window. While therapeutic it's costly to do. Also want to toss out my thanks for picking up the program. It's much easier to use than an Excel workbook.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: epic on July 26, 2009, 12:58:12 AM


Well, I'm going to go try and eat something and hopefully it will make me full enough to feel sleepy and I'll try and get a few more Zs.

I'll keep everyone posted. Have I told you users lately that I love you! lol It's true. (Most of you) Are just f'n great!


Just make sure you get rid of the 24 cans of red bull on your desk, we dont need an accident to happen. Tell Flo (didnt want to say her real name) to go order a pie with extra cheese. Eat, Drink, be Merry. Work on mids later, break out emp and STF it tonight.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 26, 2009, 08:47:51 AM
Wish it was that simple... My brain and "internal clock" screw with my sleep patterns all the time.

I goto sleep on Friday around 1am Eastern, and wake up around 9:30. Get about 2 naps in during the day of 3 hours each, which just end up making me sick (just a headache, normal thing for me). And then I goto sleep last night around 8, and here I am at a quarter to 5 awake as if I never went to sleep.

Blah, sleep patterns suck. And stop picking on my addiction to redbull... "Flo" as you call her got me these new samples called "Cold Blast Venom Bite" and it warns to not drink more than 3 in one day, lol. Gunna give these a go later today.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 27, 2009, 03:08:47 PM
Heyas Steiner,

                             Just writing to say that I hope you got some sleep and are feeling much better.  Also, keep us all posted, as you and your helper figure out what all happened with the update.  Also, don't OD on energy drinks  :P
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 27, 2009, 03:12:29 PM
Too late!

Got the "RedBull Shakes"....  lol
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: tunch on July 28, 2009, 02:40:43 PM
I think i have missed a real fun weekend!

sorry for the bugs steiner , as i said before , im here ready for tsting the new versions as you update before final release :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Chaos Ex Machina on July 29, 2009, 03:03:38 AM
Can we download the "alpha" that was up for a while, or the database that comes with it?

I can use it even if it does not work correctly, and would like a database with PVP IOs.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: cybermitheral on July 29, 2009, 03:21:17 AM
Hi all,
Steiner as others have said I can not thank you enough for taking up the reins of Mids fantastic work.

Is it possible (worthwhile maybe) to get MIDS released in say PvE and PvP updates? So for example work is done on PvE code and released. Then when the PvP content is ready that can be downloaded on top of the PvE content.

That way people can use Mids for part of their toons (if not all of them for those that don't PvP) and when the PvP code is ready grab that.

Cheers
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 29, 2009, 04:25:07 AM
Can we download the "alpha" that was up for a while, or the database that comes with it?

I can use it even if it does not work correctly, and would like a database with PVP IOs.

Thanks.
http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/MXDSetup1-4012.exe
NOTE: This is broken! Use at your own risk! The only reason it is up here if for the more weathered beta-testers and MxD users to list all the errors and issues as form of (much needed) help.

Doesn't seem to want to read MxD Builds saved prior to it.

Plus it moved the data to a new folder, and the database files have been renamed to .mxdb. If you rename the enhancement db to the mhd and update the images you will have a comprehensive set of up-to-date IOs, however the selector box runs out of room in the old version.


Hi all,
Steiner as others have said I can not thank you enough for taking up the reins of Mids fantastic work.

Is it possible (worthwhile maybe) to get MIDS released in say PvE and PvP updates? So for example work is done on PvE code and released. Then when the PvP content is ready that can be downloaded on top of the PvE content.

That way people can use Mids for part of their toons (if not all of them for those that don't PvP) and when the PvP code is ready grab that.

Cheers
I've thought about it... but MxD is fully capable of it, via the PvP/E flag in the upper right. I'll figure it out and it will be something everyone will appreciate.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: keenjin on July 29, 2009, 05:44:43 AM
Will the bug fixed version read the alpha-generated builds? o.O

Edit: by the way, is there any way that I can get the accolades in the builder? =x
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Shock1 on July 29, 2009, 11:08:44 AM
Just wanted to thank you for workin so hard on the new mids. With the semi "broken" version u gave us a few posts up do u want for us to tell you the bugs in it like hasten and ss being reversed in lvls or no?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 29, 2009, 01:38:10 PM
If you want. The better formatted the list of bugs the easier it will be to tackle.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: keenjin on July 29, 2009, 06:39:45 PM
Quote
I'll figure it out and it will be something everyone will appreciate.

Hmm there are someone who don't appreciate it? =/ That kinda saddens me =X
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 29, 2009, 08:37:58 PM
No Keenin,

                         I think Steiner is referring to the fact that some people have been whining "So, when are ya gonna release it, when huh huh huh when?"  And it's really sickening, because as Steiner has stated, a lot goes into making the whole Mid's program work.  Some people really don't understand that.  Also, these same people, act like they are owed an update.  They can't seem to understand that both Mid's when he was in charge, and now Steiner, don't owe all of us any new updates at all.  What they have done for us, and as Steiner hopefully will continue to do for us, is free.  Their time and resources go into the planner.  These are the top 2 things that the people who don't appreciate the program don't understand.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: EEEKK on July 29, 2009, 09:59:42 PM
I voted for a small fee to download.  This way Mids can be Steiner's part time/full time job.  At $5 per CoX issue that comes out to about $15 a year.  With just 1333 downloaders it can be about 20k a year =)

I wouldn't mind paying $15 a year to have a functional software.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: eabrace on July 29, 2009, 10:14:59 PM
If a fee were required to download the builder, I believe we'd then be into legal issues with profiting off of NCsoft's intellectual property.  That's not a corner anyone wants to back into.

Not expert opinion or anything, mind you, but I think that's true.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 30, 2009, 02:27:51 AM
Thank you Nightfire9. You've pretty much hit the nail on the head. And I'm sure KeenJin was just sympathizing that all changes won't please everyone... someone will still find a reason to hate it.

(BTW, Sup Jin!)

I voted for a small fee to download.  This way Mids can be Steiner's part time/full time job.  At $5 per CoX issue that comes out to about $15 a year.  With just 1333 downloaders it can be about 20k a year =)

I wouldn't mind paying $15 a year to have a functional software.
BAD EEEKK! Don't make me get the water bottle!

Can't and won't ever turn Mids' into a pay-for program, even if it wasn't a violation to the NCSoft EULA Titan agreed upon the second we used their information on our sites and services.

I treat Titan like my full time job whether you see it or not... I'm unemployed and spend at least 90% of my day (~8am - ~1am-following day) doing something Titan related... with some obvious breaks so I don't go burning myself out.

What you fail to realize here is that MxD in all it's glory was in-fact an experiment. Mids stated to me that he did indeed start it as a "test" to see if it could be done.... now the game was much simpler then and Mids hadn't really put much thought into it being a modular program (meaning things could just be added seamlessly). Then issue after issue MxD grew, and before you knew it, the source became a tower of bricks.... but as any architect will tell you, remove ( alter, etc ) one of those bricks and the tower comes toppling down.


My data drone and I are going to experiment with some really cool ideas to get MxD working the way it should... hell he's even gonna learn VB.NET to help with the code half of Mids too! I'm no Mids, neither do I pretend to be him... but he developed this application with little regard towards it ever being in someone else's responsibility. It's a helluva learning curve, but I'm getting there!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 30, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
*Hands Steiner the biggest super soaker ever made to put EEEKK in his/her place* :)
 
By the way, a big kudos to your data drone for going above and beyond to help you the best he can :)

Also, don't be discouraged by those who won't be pleased with changes and those who find a reason to hate.  If anything, look at the experience you've gained just from learning and tooling around with the program itself, and other programs that are involved.  I think it'd look really good on a job resume, for a career that has those skills involved.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Fleeting Whisper on July 30, 2009, 07:06:58 PM
If anything, look at the experience you've gained just from learning and tooling around with the program itself, and other programs that are involved.  I think it'd look really good on a job resume, for a career that has those skills involved.
Depends on what else you've got in your resume :P

I remember while I was working at Pi Studios, we got in a job application for an artist whose previous work experience was "Cashier at Ross", graduated from an online-only college, and whose portfolio consisted entirely of poorly drawn scantily clad or naked women, usually in the exact same pose. (And when they did wear clothing, the clothing was always the same cut) And when I say "poorly drawn", I mean "I could draw better" -- and there's a reason I'm not an artist.

If I were that guy, I'd replace the entire resume with tooling around in a database, and it would be a big improvement.

For my own resume, tooling around in the Mids' database wouldn't add much. Working on cross-platform Mids', on the other hand... ;)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 30, 2009, 07:24:25 PM
Omg, that's funny whisper :)  But, I see your point :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 30, 2009, 10:38:41 PM
Steiner's Resume by Summary.

Nov 2005: Steiner get's data entry clerk job for 3rd largest Customs broker in the US (Norman G. Jensen, Inc) @ $9.50/hr.

May 2006: Get's board and writes a VBA script (with no previous knowledge of VB) to expedite entries.

July 2006: Get's hired as a "Senior Import Administrator" for the same company with a 2,count em 2 dollar raise!

Handles "American Sales" which is a multi-million dollar company, (if you've ever see plus toys or random table sets at bargain stores, there is a good chance it was purchased from American Sales).

Developed and Launched a full-blown VB 6 (company was behind the times... lol) application that expanded on original idea from May. Also developed an Outlook VBA script that did what would take 10 employees at 54 ports; a 40 hour work-week to do, what this script did in about 3 mins. (Hard to explain, but it saved them a lot of money!)

January 2008: Finally turn enough heads and get hired to IS (Information Services, like IT but without the hardware background) as an "Application Support Specialist" @ 15.98/hr. (lol, notice the underlined acronym?)

Developed 3 more version of my application and made Buffalo the first paperless office and helped get the rest of Jensen (nation wide) on the road to a green office.

Released my application to 20/52 ports (some where getting merged, others shut down).

February 2009: Got laid-off due to "economic diversities in the Canadian demograph" (where most of the customs business comes from). Everyone else in the company got a 10% pay cut from their already small pay for big work checks and from what I'm hearing still hasn't improved. As both of my former employers there are still laying people off, specifically the ones that have been there the longest (aka making the most money).


During this stint at Jensen, I managed to expand my knowledge in PHP 10 fold on my off time, though I've been "coding" since I was 12. (HTML and eventually php-nuke at Lycos.com lol).

I have a helluva resume for someone who's only 23 and has no formal education in anything he does, but them's the breaks... employers WANT accredited references of your knowledge, and a college degree almost promises that. Without it, I'm just another enthusiast and companies don't put a lot of trust on that.

I've been told I have wisdom far beyond my years more times than I can remember to count... but it always makes me smile... just wish there was a way to make it more relevant to job prospects.

lol. Sorry for all that, just quenching the curious minds I guess.

Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Dr. Kid on July 31, 2009, 12:09:18 AM
If anyone wants to use Mid's with Full PVP IO support, you can download the unofficial version I made here.
http://www.mediafire.com/?tmnmynkl0mn (http://www.mediafire.com/?tmnmynkl0mn)
It took me quite a while to set this up. Enjoy. ;)

I didn't add in any other changes such as the Dominator damage buff, and whatnot. So you'll have to wait for Steiner to release the full version if you want those.

Edit:Here's the link for the self-extracting version if you can't open the file in the top link http://www.mediafire.com/?ymnjxvn4d2m (http://www.mediafire.com/?ymnjxvn4d2m)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on July 31, 2009, 12:40:00 AM

Right-Click and and drop these in your "Data" folder from
Code: [Select]
C:\Program Files\Mids Hero Designer\DataFolder.

BACK UP THE ORIGINALS! As this might not work for everyone and it would be easier to just restore backups than re-install MxD.

This should give you the live numbers. NOTE: The files provided here are only for the older version of MxD, not the alpha I posted in this thread, as those numbers up to date.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: cybermitheral on July 31, 2009, 01:12:32 AM
Hi Steiner,
these 2 links are they for PvE i15 or something else?

Also the MATH link takes me to another webpage with a table of data. Do I need to copy the text, paste into Excel then Export?

Sorry if I am being stupid.

Thanks you again for your hard work
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: SaintNicster on July 31, 2009, 01:20:38 AM
Hi Steiner,
these 2 links are they for PvE i15 or something else?

Also the MATH link takes me to another webpage with a table of data. Do I need to copy the text, paste into Excel then Export?

Sorry if I am being stupid.

Thanks you again for your hard work
Right-click the link and hit "Save link as..."
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 31, 2009, 01:26:00 AM
Heyas Kid,

                             I'm just a bit confused about your link that you posted.  I'm having a hard time, trying to get it up and running.  I downloaded off of mediafire, and it's in the form of WinRaR.  I can't seem to get it to come up for me. 
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Dr. Kid on July 31, 2009, 02:42:10 AM
Heyas Kid,

                             I'm just a bit confused about your link that you posted.  I'm having a hard time, trying to get it up and running.  I downloaded off of mediafire, and it's in the form of WinRaR.  I can't seem to get it to come up for me. 

Try this link http://www.mediafire.com/?ymnjxvn4d2m (http://www.mediafire.com/?ymnjxvn4d2m)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Nightfire9 on July 31, 2009, 02:58:29 AM
I figured out what I was doing wrong.  I forgot to extract the one folder :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: keenjin on August 01, 2009, 06:05:00 PM
(BTW, Sup Jin!)

HOLA! =P GEPASA xD

(that's like the only words I know, so try not to speak Spanish to me =X)

So, you kinda laid off from the game too? =X

I still haven't seen you online >.> (I know, I know, I don't get on that much either xP but hey =P I saw Stitch was on xP)

Hmm.. maybe I should continue calling you R.son =P (cuz you're a lot more familiar with that name to me xP)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on August 01, 2009, 06:12:47 PM
Lol. Yea I killed off R. Son. But yea, the SG is hella-busy right now.

I still play, about 1-2 hours a night. Definitely not as heavily as I used to, but I knew that taking on Titan and all the responsibilities would do that and I was prepared for it.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: keenjin on August 01, 2009, 06:14:53 PM
They did remember me, =P I joined villainside ohmygawdforce(=P) (but I haven't logged in since like a week ago =X)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: FlameBlade on August 05, 2009, 01:15:36 PM
Hi, I have just downloaded the "new" version, but there is an issue with the travel powers. All seem to be set for level 4, but are still having either tier 1 or 2 as prerequisites.

I know I can change the data myself using the database editor, but then the updater wants to download an old database and replace it.

So... any wise words?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: keenjin on August 05, 2009, 01:32:33 PM
Yes, it has some issues and it's being fixed.

That's why we should be using the old one until the bug fix version is released, unless you personally want those issues. =P
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on August 05, 2009, 02:15:24 PM
Yea I'm going put some notes on the alpha post, lol.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: eabrace on August 05, 2009, 02:15:41 PM
That's why we should be using the old one until the bug fix version is released, unless you personally want those issues. =P
Or you want to help find the bugs so that they're fixed in the final version.  :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: keenjin on August 05, 2009, 02:20:41 PM
I thought most of them were already found. =X (I'm using both btw. Old on on my laptop, the alpha on my desktop. =P)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on August 05, 2009, 04:10:01 PM
I believe I'm going to make a each install of MxD a standalone install. Meaning you'll be able to run multiple copies of mids on the same machine using it's own resources. Or at least give it a beta flag that allows you to run it separately, lol.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: St0n3y on August 05, 2009, 05:34:19 PM
Unless I am misunderstanding something here, you can already run multiple copies of mids on 1 pc.  I do it all the time to look at differences I have between 2 builds,
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: SaintNicster on August 05, 2009, 06:01:44 PM
Unless I am misunderstanding something here, you can already run multiple copies of mids on 1 pc.  I do it all the time to look at differences I have between 2 builds,
Two install instances/versions like with HeroStats (http://www.herostats.org/) and HeroStats Unstable (http://unstable.herostats.org/).
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on August 05, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
Correct.

I understand MxD CAN do that, but there is no way to verify where on your computer the instance is getting the info from, unless you're running a JIT Debugger, (which I usually am... comes with Visual Studio, lol).

However, agreeing with Nicster's post, it would a blatantly obvious unstable version that will be completely separate in every way... plus give the users something to use while we take the steps to put it live. Much how Skip is doing it for Herostats.


I'm not I'm going to get an earful from the hardcore MxD users about how Mids never needed to do that... but trust me, it will be a something that will benefit myself and the users that know how to debug and diagnose issues.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: FlameBlade on August 06, 2009, 06:25:17 AM
Would you consider opening the source by putting it on CodePlex or SourceForge?
That way you wouldn't have to do it all by yourself.

Of course, Mids have put some restrictions on the code, but I would think that over all it would be beneficial to open source.
You wouldn't necessarily have to allow everybody write access to the source repository, but even with read-access more people would be able to retrieve the code, and submit patches.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on August 06, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
I swore to Mids that the code would not be submitted to opensource in anyway... he doesn't want his brainchild getting forked and by proxy possibly a mark against his good name for what he and his service has done for the community.

Us developers are odd like that, I would have the same inflictions if I spent hours, upon years working on something that helped thousands.

However... Fleeting Whisper is working on a java version that will be cross-os, what he does with his source is completely up to him, just remember that Titan is where it came from! lol.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Fleeting Whisper on August 06, 2009, 05:56:49 PM
Fleeting Whisper is working on a java version that will be cross-os, what he does with his source is completely up to him, just remember that Titan is where it came from! lol.
I might as well say it now: I have no plans to make it open source, but neither do I have plans to obfuscate the code, so it would be trivial to decompile it.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: FlameBlade on August 06, 2009, 06:30:29 PM
Right, I can understand that... or rather, I can accept that. I don't entirely agree, but that is entirely besides the point ;)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Turbo Starr on August 10, 2009, 03:54:26 PM
Been following this thread for a while now. Do we have a new update?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: St0n3y on August 11, 2009, 12:45:24 AM
I think everyone quit waiting and went to go play "Hello Kitty Island Adventure."
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Lady Arete on August 11, 2009, 08:16:00 AM
No, no new update yet.
Reasons have been given so wait patiently young padawan.
Our master Steiner will get the update running.  :)

The new update is anyway mostly about the pvp enchantments so the normal mid works perfectly still. (What I've understood atleast)

Keep up the good work Steiner :)
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Turbo Starr on August 11, 2009, 12:22:14 PM
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on August 11, 2009, 07:06:35 PM
Sorry for the delay folks... seems it's going to last a little longer. My computer took a sh.... well you get the idea.

So I took the opportunity to upgrade to W7 Ult x64, BUAH HAHAHAHA! it is awesome! I'm in nerd heaven.

Well... the delay is going to be longer due to my needing to update everything and get all my backup stuff of my external HDD and get it running on W7 here. It's going to take a little while, so please bare with me in the event I don't reply as quickly as I used to.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Turbo Starr on August 17, 2009, 08:56:40 PM
Just so you know Steiner...

Every morning, I visit the Steiner shrine I erected since your acquisition  of Mids. Following deep prayer and mediation, I mentally guide you along the process threw codes and jibba jabba. We are one, like a baby calf still attached to its mothers s umbilical cord. I will nourish your mind, let you think clearly, and thus Mids will be complete.

I am with you my friend...I am with you...
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on August 17, 2009, 09:05:39 PM
STALKER!!!!!!
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: cybermitheral on August 17, 2009, 11:26:40 PM
Sounds more like a Mind/Psi Dominator or Controller to me...
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tazhyngarth on August 18, 2009, 12:44:35 PM
LOL, whatever you want to call it, it's a little creepy while at the same time being pretty interesting O_o.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Sili on August 25, 2009, 04:37:15 PM
What are the odds of getting Mids passed to someone who can actually fix the program rather than talk about fixing it.  Seems St0n3y is on track to doing just that.  Thanks St0n3y for taking the initiative and mad love for not throwing out imaginary deadlines that you can't meet.  This site has about zero credibility left and I'm over the excuses.  Never be to proud to ask for help or admit you can't do something.  Feel free to shred me, I dont care.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Tazhyngarth on August 25, 2009, 05:10:45 PM
Coincidentally, we were just talking about this.  Point Blank - Steiner is one man with several projects on his plate.  All stuff that we all started back with the original Admins yet could never get the time to complete, or other reasons.  He was brought on board to help throw this stuff out, and he's made a hell of a lot of progress where we all could not because of RL time constraints.  This is a bunch of Fan Sites run by few individuals that don't have as much free time as we did when this all first started.

Steiner has a lot going on in RL now though, as well as Mids being a very complex Program with all the mathmatics in it and such, it's not as easy to Update as one thinks.  We've brought on others to assist, but again, RL steps in the way it seems.  Those of us here that have time to work on Mids and the other projects, aren't programmers, so they're not able to do any of that anyway.  I can't answer 100% for everyone working here, but these are my views on why this project hasn't been completed yet.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Voltaic Shock on August 25, 2009, 05:21:07 PM
What needs to be done?  I thought most of mids could just be updated by updating the file that acts like a DB that the program reads?
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Steiner on August 25, 2009, 06:52:40 PM
What are the odds of getting Mids passed to someone who can actually fix the program rather than talk about fixing it.  Seems St0n3y is on track to doing just that.  Thanks St0n3y for taking the initiative and mad love for not throwing out imaginary deadlines that you can't meet.  This site has about zero credibility left and I'm over the excuses.  Never be to proud to ask for help or admit you can't do something.  Feel free to shred me, I dont care.
Feel free to say whatever your want about me, but Titan is not at fault, and I'm really getting annoyed with the actions of one person de-facing an entire group.

I'm not going to shred you, because simply put... you're not wrong. But if you have any compassion for what COULD be happening in other people's lives than your own... you might like to retract this statement. I do not divulge my personal life on these forums, and I rarely do to even the closest of friends I have in RL... it's just something I don't do. But if you can close your eyes and imagine the worst possible outcomes to someone's life other than death, you wouldn't be far away from my current situation.

Again, Please... flame me all you want, but don't blame Titan. This site was built on the shoulders of COH players that had a love for the game that they wanted to share with other players... it was probably never in the interest to become this big or have this much responsibility... But we will make it work! I won't let the legacy die.
Title: Re: Update?
Post by: Aggelakis on August 30, 2009, 02:12:30 AM
I split out the posts regarding St0n3y taking over, and I'm locking this thread so comments go to the appropriate place. Thanks!

New thread! (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,2583.0.html)