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Title: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: AeternalDreamer on December 03, 2012, 06:51:49 AM
I've played COH for about eight years, to be honest I lost track. I started about two weeks after launch though, so before issue 1 even came out, back when if you wanted a new costume that entailed remaking your character as there was no icon or facemaker yet.

I was there when they turned the server off too. I seem to be making myself upset though, hoping that one day the game will mysteriously be back, like NCSoft changed their minds to change their image or some such. I logged in the day after, just to see, and tonight I checked the server status and since it said Virtue was up I checked. It wasn't. That picture of Statesman in the launcher also got me sad. I didn't like Statesman as a character, he was.. holier than thou might be a good way to describe him, but the symbolism in that picture was heart wrenching.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on December 03, 2012, 06:55:57 AM
i still have hope that coh will be revived in some way, either through acquisition of the IP by another company or by whats being done with the phoenix project here
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: emu265 on December 03, 2012, 06:58:06 AM
I have hope, but I've been keeping busy so I haven't thought too much about it.  Finals are a week away, so I haven't had time to catch my breath and sob :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TonyV on December 03, 2012, 07:03:01 AM
I've stayed really busy, so I guess I haven't really felt it yet.  I did log into Champions Online since they posted such a nice message to us and played through the tutorial earlier today.  It was just so... different.  Not bad, just weird.  Not being intimately familiar with the interface, not being able to just jump in and do stuff, being the n00b for the first time in almost a decade while everyone else seemed to just "get it", I dunno.  It was a really bizarre feeling.  I don't know if I'll stick with it.  I do plan on trying out Neverwinter when I can get beta access; at least then, everyone will be the n00b and I have a chance to grow up with the community once again.

I've also been working on various web site stuff, and another little non-CoH project that I can't really talk about, and watched a bit of football today.  (What's up, 49ers?  The Rams are your kryptonite or something?)  The Falcons played on Thursday night (and beat the Saints by 10, woohoo!), so I didn't even have them to take my mind off of things.  I also hung out with Belle, did a bunch of Skype chatting, and miscellaneous stuff.

But yeah, I'm a bit down because I'm not seeing or talking to the usual crew of people I hang with, but I'm still convinced that we'll be able to bring the game back somehow, so I'm more pissed off at NCsoft and determined than down or depressed.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: faith.grins on December 03, 2012, 07:05:08 AM
The Falcons played on Thursday night (and beat the Saints by 10, woohoo!), so I didn't even have them to take my mind off of things.
ARgh!  You are on the wrong side of history, my friend!  The Saints are coming!  Exclamation points!!!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Jetfire99 on December 03, 2012, 07:11:59 AM
RPing elsewhere recovering getting ready to help with mouse letters. If anything i'm mad, I'm not going to lay down and die. I want to see COH rise again even if it's just...as a museam of what it was someday.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: The Fifth Horseman on December 03, 2012, 09:20:14 AM
Throwing myself into coding and my studies, with the occasional thought to updating the offlince costume creator or producing something similar to it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sarge Morris on December 03, 2012, 09:32:15 AM
Not well, to tell the truth.  To be honest, CoX was my first re-introduction to semi-normal society after I got out of Iraq. 

I served for fifteen months as a machine gunner.  Aiming at other humans and pulling the trigger was a fact of life.  When I got out of Iraq, I was, well, not quite hitting on all eight cylinders, if you know what I mean.  Hardly a functioning human being.  CoX was easy - I could play it from my barracks room, where I was comfortable.  I didn't have to go out in public, where I'd spend more time instinctively scanning for targets and feeling naked for my lack of body armor. 

CoX helped me more than I can effectively articulate as I struggled to make the transition from professional killing machine to human again.  Just simply interacting with people through a non-threatening medium where I didn't have to deal with the other glitches, twitches and bugs I had picked up while being shot at in a hostile environment for over a year of my life.

I'm still not quite right, and its been nearly five years, but I'm at least functional in the civilian sector these days, and I credit CoX and the community a lot with helping me through that difficult time.  Now that its gone, I'm not quite sure what to do with myself.  I still don't like going out in public. 

I suppose I'm moving on to STO finally.  I got the lifetime subscription, being a lifelong Trekkie, when it first came out, but that subscription sat ignored until very recently.  Despite not really being a comic book fan, CoX captured my attention, my imagination, and the friends I made are irreplaceable. 

Although if CoX2 comes out, I think my starships are going to go back to gathering dust in a drydock again.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 03, 2012, 09:58:07 AM
First off, Sarge Morris THANK YOU for your service. No one will ever understand what you have been through except your brothers in arms. I am very glad you are here in the forums, and hope you will always consider the CoX community a home base. The game helped so many people deal with inner struggles. I pray for your continued peace. Hang in there. You are a hero in and out of The City.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 03, 2012, 10:07:29 AM
Thank you for your service and sacrifice, Sarge Morris.  Hang in there, game therapy is proving to be highly effective for vets.  Find another game that gives you some of the same release and relief as quickly as you can.  And stick with us here, we've got your back.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tiberian Fiend on December 03, 2012, 10:35:54 AM
I'm kind of relieved.  I've been playing all the games I wanted to but couldn't because I was getting as much CoH in as I could over the last three months.  I hope to play CoH again some day, but I really was tired of it by the end.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Minotaur on December 03, 2012, 10:41:23 AM
I lost my mother 10 years ago. I'm feeling all the same emotions of bereavement but recognise them this time and am dealing with them better.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sophronisba on December 03, 2012, 10:54:19 AM
I thought I'd accepted the loss a couple of months ago, but it's bothered me more this weekend than I expected. I played CO this weekend (double XP!) but CoH was my favorite game and I haven't been able to find anything that really compares.

I do believe that CoH will be back someday, in some form, just because that's usually how things work. But I don't know whether someday will be six months from now or ten years from now.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on December 03, 2012, 03:58:31 PM
i took a 2 month break between oct and most of nov till the last day, i was almost burning out around the time of the shutdown announcement waiting for i24

however i still was on here the whole time, and when i was in game for the last day, i got to see and talk to numerous poeple whom i will miss greatly now that coh isnt always there for me to login

i still habitually open the official forums when i open a web browser and constantly reminded and saddened by the sunset message instead of the usual villain colored forums

every time i play a different game i always am reminded how coh DID absorb a lot of my time and i love it, most other games i play nowadays barely last me 8-20 hours which is about 1-3 days of play
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on December 03, 2012, 04:12:02 PM
First, thank you for your service, Sarge Morris.

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necrotech: i still habitually open the official forums when i open a web browser and constantly reminded and saddened by the sunset message instead of the usual villain colored forums

I deleted that off my favorites first thing. Something about that "thank you for your years of support, and FLY FREE!" message strikes me as the biggest middle-finger to the playerbase ever.

Its like getting my assignment changed at work, and the email ending with "...and thank you for your cooperation!" Yeah, like I have a choice in the matter. If you're going to be a totalitarian, don't try to sugarcoat it, I'll respect (rhetorical) you more.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 03, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
SGT Morris, even those of us who never saw action come away with PTSD, and have a dfficult time transitioning. Avoid "war movies" because they will trigger you, but go track down a copy of The Best Years of Our Lives. I found it helpful. Do not fall back on pre-programmed behavior. If you find yourself saying "suck it up!" just... stop and reclaim the real you. Good luck. -- LT Nolan.

Back on topic, I'd thought I had a healthy distance, but it looks like that was just my usual emotional compartmentalization. The last time I was in Gemini Park I couldn't bear to remain for the shutdown, so Sister Colette left, less than a minute after Ascendant did the same. Now I find myself feeling lonesome and I can feel it affecting my health. I'm looking forward to getting back to work today and being around people.

"Something about that 'thank you for your years of support, and FLY FREE!' message strikes me as the biggest middle-finger to the playerbase ever."

Agreed. That night I couldn't sleep, saw that, and made this.

(https://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s556/JackNolan1/vampire.jpg)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on December 03, 2012, 04:27:14 PM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nafaustu on December 03, 2012, 04:31:38 PM
Saturday after the crash (i'm in est and I was mid-swing with my Brute when Virtue went down the last time) I slept until Noon.   My gaming group was very understanding about the late start to my L5R game.  I was pretty sad, but I ended up GMing from 2ish-10pm.   Mind was on that.

Sunday I woke up and automatically hit the CoH icon on my lapstop.   Very sadface. LoL tournements on the big tv in the living room and Torchlight II.  Friends and distractions.

Came here to read these forums in my downtime at work.   Even more sadface.

Still hoping for a Hail Mary to win the game.

And thank you for your service, Sarge Morris.  :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Spellcaster Hana on December 03, 2012, 05:34:20 PM
Most of my time revolved around CoX. Now that it's gone, I'm becoming depressed, anxious and restless.

I'd like to hope that NCSoft would change their mind on selling the IP but I think that's just asking for a miracle to happen. I know there are also people making a successor for the game, but right now, everyone is doing their own thing which I think is bad. We're still on the initial stage and we're not getting along already. I think now would be a good time to forget our pride, learn to compromise and work together or else all our efforts are going to go down from here.

I'm still hoping for that miracle...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on December 03, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
I was rather depressed before rejoining CoH late August, and CoH helped take the edge off prior to closing.  Now I'm feeling it pretty hard and I'm struggling for a way to relax.  I'm finding little thing that honestly shouldn't bother me to be inordinately irritating.  Even on these forums, I've had to resist the urge to backseat moderate a couple times, which is a bad habit I have from my days as a moderator on several other forums.

I may need to just step away from everything CoH-related and find something else to throw all my free time into for a while, until I pull out of this depression-spiral.  Maybe I can get back into Minecraft again... provided I don't get the irrepressable urge to rebuild Atlas Park or Grandville in Creative mode.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TimtheEnchanter on December 03, 2012, 08:37:38 PM
At the moment I'm not. I was actually doing BETTER on the 1st day after than I am now. Started the CO tutorial, immediately bumped into Dragiel, was keeping myself busy with holiday stuff, etc... and it's been slowly going down. Maybe it hit me that no matter what happens, the community is going to be game-split now.  :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Dollhouse on December 03, 2012, 08:56:16 PM
I'm handling it by shooting tings in the face: zombies, draugr, vampires, werewolves, cultists, mummies, revenants, shades, ghouls, mercenaries, Ak'ab, golems, and so forth...in The Secret World. It's a flat out wonderful game, immersive and superbly written...but I've only been playing for a few weeks. Obviously that can't compare with over eight years of love and attention focused on my CoH characters. I'm doing fine...but there are plenty of sad, wistful moments.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JWBullfrog on December 03, 2012, 09:03:04 PM
Laundry
 
Dishes
 
Sorting my collection of rare math textbooks...
 
I have other games I play. It's a good thing I have several of them because none of them hold my attention the way CoH did.
 
Obladi Oblada yeah na na na na life goes on.
 
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on December 03, 2012, 09:04:50 PM
At the moment I'm not. I was actually doing BETTER on the 1st day after than I am now. Started the CO tutorial, immediately bumped into Dragiel, was keeping myself busy with holiday stuff, etc... and it's been slowly going down. Maybe it hit me that no matter what happens, the community is going to be game-split now.  :(

i think the community is mostly together still due to these forums, with tony wanting to keep the titan forums open then the community would be truly destroyed, but i feel with these forums up there is hope and a feel that the community is still together even while not in the same games
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: dwturducken on December 03, 2012, 09:04:55 PM
Hey, Sarge. Ex-navy, here. <John Wayne salute>

I can't play CO, but not because it's remotely similar. I have a "tank" called Paragon Crusader, in a decent reproduction of States' costume, but tanking sucks in CO if you can't get used to Block. I have made half a dozen characters (and deleted all but "States"), and I'm sick of the tutorial. Maybe if you didn't have to play the whole damned six levels every time...

I tried STO, and it was OK, but it just didn't hold my interest after about lvl25.

SWTOR is OK, but I'm still under lvl10, so...

WoW is, well, WoW. Their "free to 20" trial isn't worth it.

DDO is nice, but I just don't see it being anything more than an occasional thing.

Anything new? We'll see.

Mostly, I'm throwing myself into school and work, like Fifth.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Graphite on December 03, 2012, 09:05:46 PM
Last night after posting the Statesman Mickey information, I logged on to SWTOR.  About five minutes in it really started to click how much SWTOR is just another WoW clone.  It's just not the same and got real depressed afterwords.  I'll stick with it, and it should be a lot more fun playing with people rather than soloing a new toon... but its just not the same. *sniff*
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 03, 2012, 09:18:55 PM
I'm handling it by posting here.

And re-watching every episode of Buffy.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: dwturducken on December 03, 2012, 09:21:10 PM
Last night after posting the Statesman Mickey information, I logged on to SWTOR.  About five minutes in it really started to click how much SWTOR is just another WoW clone.  It's just not the same and got real depressed afterwords.  I'll stick with it, and it should be a lot more fun playing with people rather than soloing a new toon... but its just not the same. *sniff*

How does teaming work in SWTOR, compared to CoH, because that's where the multiplayer aspect really falls down, for me. In no other game that I've tried has teaming been so cooperative. For them, it's just, "Oh, you get some experience and maybe some loot, but it doesn't really matter unless you have the mission, too."
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JWBullfrog on December 03, 2012, 09:25:53 PM
Teaming is a bit clunky compared to what we're used to. It takes a bit of looking to even find how to invite to a team. Once you have that, then it works well enough for outdoor missions but it gets a bit balky for instances.
 
For example: my wife and I were on last night and we both entered an instanced mission that we both had. It basically gave us two seperate missions. I could not see her character, she could not see mine. I could not effect her mission, she could not effect mine. We appeared on each other's maps but that was about it.
 
In defense of that, we've only been playing for a day or two so we might have missed something. But it sure feels far stiffer than it needs to be.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: dwturducken on December 03, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
That's similar to what I was seeing in CO and DCUO. WoW was kinda the reverse, with the outside being "whatever," but the Dungeons being more what we're used to.  Haven't done one of those since Cataclysm, though.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: AeternalDreamer on December 03, 2012, 09:29:46 PM
Teaming is a bit clunky compared to what we're used to. It takes a bit of looking to even find how to invite to a team. Once you have that, then it works well enough for outdoor missions but it gets a bit balky for instances.
 
For example: my wife and I were on last night and we both entered an instanced mission that we both had. It basically gave us two seperate missions. I could not see her character, she could not see mine. I could not effect her mission, she could not effect mine. We appeared on each other's maps but that was about it.
 
In defense of that, we've only been playing for a day or two so we might have missed something. But it sure feels far stiffer than it needs to be.

Inviting to a team is easy, I just type /invite suchandsuch.

Also, you may have been in different world maps for your mishes not to affect each other, if you click on their portrait in team then it should let you jump to their world map, going into map can do the same thing I think. Teaming in TOR isn't actually that bad, I think, though I try to have friends that I play with regularly.

EDIT: I didn't ever care for WoW, to me it was just a game I hated that took a lot of friends I enjoyed playing with away. CO .. I tried getting into that but I don't care for the gameplay and it's so.. subpar compared to COH, DCUO isn't enjoyable to me at all, I'll never play Marvel as it's just a diablo-esque style of game, and I hated combat in TSW. I actually am really enjoying TOR again, the best selling point for it is the story, the missions for your character.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Inkitgee on December 03, 2012, 09:56:36 PM
I've been putting all my CoH stuff together like the old map that came with my game back when I bought it in Japan and the art book my best friend got for me at CapeCon.  I've also been getting all the music from the game and putting it on my iTunes so I can listen to it whenever I want.  It's a relief to have at least that. 

I've also been making fan art of my characters and those of my sisters and friends.  I've done a few already.  If I knew how to put images up here I'd show them off but I don't.  *shrug*  It keeps me sane I suppose. ^^;
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Frostyfrozen on December 03, 2012, 10:09:11 PM
Well I slept the first day as I did a rather long time playing CoH before the end. I ran out of tears after the first 3 hour since have been trying to keep my self busy with hanging X-mas decor and such as it seems Chrismas is coming. I played no games till last night and that was a solo game.
I'm keeping up with the Triumph community and CoHTitan just hoping a whisper of a come back appears in the next few days.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Globetrotter on December 03, 2012, 11:08:14 PM
I am reading the Titanforums and twitter feeds. In between I learn myself to demo edit the few demorecords I made in the last days o the game. Just can't say Goodbye and continu to the next game.

I am an old dog. Can't learn a new trick that easy/
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: AlienOne on December 03, 2012, 11:10:08 PM
i still have hope that coh will be revived in some way, either through acquisition of the IP by another company or by whats being done with the phoenix project here

Hey... If Hellgate: London can get bought and revived, City of Heroes DEFINITELY can.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on December 03, 2012, 11:28:46 PM
I can't play CO, but not because it's remotely similar. I have a "tank" called Paragon Crusader, in a decent reproduction of States' costume, but tanking sucks in CO if you can't get used to Block. I have made half a dozen characters (and deleted all but "States"), and I'm sick of the tutorial. Maybe if you didn't have to play the whole damned six levels every time...

You don't have to play the tutorial every time. Only the first-ever character has to play the Tutorial.  There's a "Skip The Tutorial" button (at the bottom, below the big flashy "I'm Done" button, between the "Save" and "Load" buttons) for your second and subsequent characters, and skipping the Tutorial starts you at level 6.

There's no doubt that tanks just aren't as survivable in CO without some heavy min-maxing, though.  Lower damage reduction and no Status protection (except managing to PERFECTLY time a block in between your own character's attack animations).  A perfectly-built Tank in CO seems to be about as durable as my not-exactly-optimal Brute build in CoH.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: dwturducken on December 03, 2012, 11:34:48 PM
I appreciate that you're trying to help, but it's a bit like all the articles that came out the week before Windows 8 dropped that basically were, "How to Make Windows 8 Not Annoying/Suck." I skipped Vista, I can skip Win8, and I can find something else to devote my time to, while I'm taking breaks from what I can do, here. Thank you, though.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: eabrace on December 03, 2012, 11:53:17 PM
There is also an option that you can set (I believe it is actually set to disabled though), so that people can enter your class quest instances and help you out. I always have this enabled incase I am teamed up with my GF.  And whilst they don't get the reward, they still get XP and drops. This is for "story/Class" instance missions. And to be fair, you generally *dont* need extra help, although as they don't scale, you can go and bring someone else in to help bust it.

Now, if it was a "normal" instance (ie a non story/class quest), then the whole group should have been able to go into it with no problems (unless of course, you were in different "world map" instances...

That is if i am remembering correctly.
Correct.

One other thing to keep in mind in SWTOR is the team size.  Teams are normally limited to four characters.

And there is no form of sidekicking.  Since the majority of your stats are based on gear, if two characters running together are very far apart in level, you'll either end up with one character getting repeatedly flattened by even the lowest ranking enemy, or one character single-handedly clearing the map before the other character can say, "Hey, wait up!"
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 04, 2012, 12:07:08 AM
Crying.

Writing.

Crying.

Laundry.

Crying.

Housework.

Crying.

Never played an Invul, so I don't know how to be invulnerable. 
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 04, 2012, 12:08:45 AM
I've played one. In fact, she was my last level 50.

Believe me, it doesn't help :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JWBullfrog on December 04, 2012, 12:37:22 AM





Never played an Invul, so I don't know how to be invulnerable.

We support players never had that as an available powerset. All we had was the sheer bloody-minded determination to jump into harm's way no matter how much it was going to hurt.
And it always hurt.
 
And if anyone has been jumping into harm's way recently.... :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nebularian on December 04, 2012, 12:40:14 AM
going back to school to get my BA LOL  and finally listening to people griping at me about it and trying to get back into fan-fic writing again......
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Palladiamors on December 04, 2012, 02:59:08 AM
Playing other things.   I also have a lot of writing and planning to do.  I miss CoH,  but I wasn't able to make myself play much in those last three months.  I won't be able to scratch that particular itch unless something gets done.  So I will be in this for the long haul until we get out City back in some way form or fashion.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JanessaVR on December 04, 2012, 03:03:09 AM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: ukaserex on December 04, 2012, 03:37:48 AM
I've stayed really busy, so I guess I haven't really felt it yet.  I did log into Champions Online since they posted such a nice message to us and played through the tutorial earlier today.  It was just so... different.  Not bad, just weird.  Not being intimately familiar with the interface, not being able to just jump in and do stuff, being the n00b for the first time in almost a decade while everyone else seemed to just "get it", I dunno.  It was a really bizarre feeling.  I don't know if I'll stick with it.  I do plan on trying out Neverwinter when I can get beta access; at least then, everyone will be the n00b and I have a chance to grow up with the community once again.

I've also been working on various web site stuff, and another little non-CoH project that I can't really talk about, and watched a bit of football today.  (What's up, 49ers?  The Rams are your kryptonite or something?)  The Falcons played on Thursday night (and beat the Saints by 10, woohoo!), so I didn't even have them to take my mind off of things.  I also hung out with Belle, did a bunch of Skype chatting, and miscellaneous stuff.

But yeah, I'm a bit down because I'm not seeing or talking to the usual crew of people I hang with, but I'm still convinced that we'll be able to bring the game back somehow, so I'm more pissed off at NCsoft and determined than down or depressed.

I shared the same experience with Champions. It's so odd being a noob, lol. And, I'm a Saints fan, so that loss was pretty ugly for me. Well, we got the first one.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Menrva Channel on December 04, 2012, 03:45:11 AM
I take everything in stride. I remember now what life before Paragon was like--Boring. Quiet... Lonely. You might never meet someone you befriended online--but they are your friends still. I got horribly ill and spent most of yesterday sleeping. That was almost a relief from Saturday. I spent Saturday going through my files, trying to find some comfort. With the beginning of the school week, I'll be hunkering down... but I can't shake feeling down.

It's stolen my excitement over other things too. Playing other MMOs is hard--because I don't have my city to return to. I am a /huge/ Tolkien fan and I can't even muster excitement over the Hobbit right now. :/ And I've been looking forward to that for /years/. I am angry. I am hurt. And I am sad. I'm moving on because I have to. But that doesn't mean I've stopped thinking about Paragon. I regret taking it for granted. I thought it'd always be there... I was wrong.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: faith.grins on December 04, 2012, 03:57:22 AM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LT. Couper on December 04, 2012, 04:01:01 AM
Not sure how I'm handling it.

Literally not a day went by since I found out about the anouncement that I didn't have CoH in my thoughts (folding paper cranes day after day likely had something to do with it). I had been playing CoH longer than I had originally realized, by putting different memories together I discovered that I had been playing on and off for at least 6 1/2 to 7 years. It's also a little hard because my friends at school don't seem to understand what I'm going through, even though I'd been able to convince most of them to at least try the game.

After the shutdown (3:00 AM Eastern) I kinda stared at the "Lost Connection to Mapserver" screen for a minute, not sure what to think. I didn't cry then, as I thought I would, instead just shutting down my computer and going to sleep. After getting back up, I (naturally) tried launching the game, I guess in some futile hope that it had all been a bad dream. Obviously, no such luck. Every second of Saturday was spent with my mind thinking about what had happened Friday night. I kept thinking about taking that one last Super Group screenshot in Pocket D and realizing that it was the way I would have wanted to go out; With my friends that I had known for years (although, unfortunately, hadn't had much contact with recently).

It was only once my dad asked me about the Sunset that I started to cry. And then again once I got back home and turned on my moniter and saw my SG screenshot already up. I kept kicking myself for not realizing sooner that my SG was what I'd miss the most about CoH.

I havent cried about it since then (although I just started to tear up while writing this), but when I get home from school, I just stop, not knowing what to do with the rest of my day. I think about playing some other game but I feel as if I'm betraying the memory of CoH by playing something else so soon after the Sunset.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Daimyoshi on December 04, 2012, 04:10:56 AM
I am not, I going through a stage much like Doctor Doom must have after he was scarred. So much anger and hate. I live to Dance on the Grave of NCSOFT.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: therain93 on December 04, 2012, 04:18:39 AM
I'm kind of coping, but not totally out of denial yet I think.....tonight is Monday Night Horde night on Freedom, or rather was. / ' :   Titan Network has turned into my security blanket, as evidenced by the uptick in postings.
I've spent a tremendous amount of time batch compressing FRAPs video down using Xvid.  I've actually just finished, ultimately reclaiming about 360GBs of space, but I've yet to really catalog what I have there.  I've replayed some of it and smiled and I've pondered next steps.  I've set up dedicated youtube and imageshack sites for my coh stuff and have started uploading raw footage.  I have a ton of demorecords and likely will spend some time demoing, playing with older clients that have sound, and setting up videos of final resting places for various heroes and villains, at least those that I've got.  Sadly, I didn't actually grab all of them.
I miss my toons and I miss PUGs  ) ' :
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nebularian on December 04, 2012, 04:26:21 AM
I Titan Network has turned into my security blanket, as evidenced by the uptick in postings.

Ditto!!  LOL
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sajaana on December 04, 2012, 04:39:28 AM
I started the process as soon as I knew the game was going to end.

My SG helped, I suppose.  Starkweather and the VoPC cut all ties to the game within days.  They left to go to TSW together.  Myself, well, as much as I loved them, I loved CoH more.  And I knew it wouldn't be the same anywhere else.  So I bid them farewell and continued on here.

A few of the friends I made over the years formed a new SG, the Storm Riders, to have someplace for people to go.  I remember the recruitment spam, "We're the Stormriders, a brand new SG created today for those who want to ride out the storm with us.  Wish us luck!"

The way I saw it, everybody had a right to their happy ending.  I had three months to make it happen for myself and everyone else.  In the meantime, I started getting out more, diving into my research, and taking some time away to go to the gym.  I knew that if the end was coming, it would be a whole lot easier if I had rebuilt a life outside of Coh before it ended.  And, believe me, it helped...a lot.

A lot of my time in game was helping others adjust to life outside of CoH.  And while I won't get into the details, most of the advice I gave amounted to the same thing: start reconnecting with the world out there, because that's the world that'll hold you together when the world in here is taken from us.

A lot of people--myself included--came to the game because of something that happened out there that drove us to CoH.  Perhaps it was a stint of unemployment.  Perhaps it was a tragedy.  Perhaps it was simply a time of supreme stress and overwork.  Perhaps it was an injury or medical condition.  When things out there get so bleak, we tend to escape it by finding something like CoH, something that makes us feel important to others.  Something that makes us feel like we are doing important things.

Is it wrong to escape in that way?  I think it's the most natural thing a person can do.  And what is so tragic about the closure isn't so much that it kicked us back out there.  I mean, after all, we really ought to be living life out there more often.  The tragic thing was that the closure forced people to be thrown back out there before they were ready, and that is just too cruel for words.

I didn't like losing CoH, but I slept well on December 1.  I might not have done everything, but I did enough to where I could say, "I played the heck out of it," and move on to the other things I've been doing.  But I consider myself one of the lucky ones.  It was through luck, not character or strength, that made my transition easy.  A lot of people I know aren't able to move on, because their situations were so dire, unrewarding or bleak that they simply had no desire to move on at all.  We owe those people some sense of purpose and hope.  If NCSoft won't give that to us anymore, who will?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Lady Luck on December 04, 2012, 04:57:44 AM
Plus I have weird QoL issues that nobody else in the world seems to have.  (For example, when I activate Flight, my character drifts downward instead of flying straight ahead, until I adjust the camera.  Then when I land and take off I have to adjust the camera again to avoid drifting downwards.   The default camera position for Flight is "character slams face into ground", and I don't know why.  When I tell this to people over there, they just say "That's not supposed to happen" and don't actually tell me how to FIX it)

Are you speaking of CO? I have the same problem! I can't fly straight. And I don't know how to fix it either.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: DrakeGrimm on December 04, 2012, 05:23:35 AM
I'm not.


I put on a face. I go through the motions. I'm a skilled enough actor nobody knows something is wrong...but the truth is? Part of me died when the servers went offline. I'm fighting for more than to get a City back. I'm fighting to restore myself. I've barely written a thing recently...and if you know me, and you know how enthused I am about writing and my current project, you would realize how much that makes me want to cry in frustration.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on December 04, 2012, 05:32:31 AM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JWBullfrog on December 04, 2012, 05:45:26 AM
final thought here before bed.
 
Misery shared is Misery halved.
 
That's what this thread is all about. It has become a virtual therapy session. This is a good thing. We're all coping at different rates but we share one common trait... we all understand how everybody else is feeling.
 
I'm not going to throw platitudes (or Platypi) at you and try to tell you everything will be alright. It's going to take time before everything resets. My best (completely non-medical) advice is keep talking and try to get back to normal things.
 
How am I coping? Terribly, but doing normal things is helping me refocus. I'm restarting my writing and trying not to obsess quite so much. I know that sooner or later I'm going to do something or say something or see something that is going to set me off and remind me of what has gone missing. All I can do is be as normal as possible and time will do it's usual trick of making memories less painful.
For now though, it's off to bed and work in the morning. I'll expect to see everybody again here tomorrow? Yes?
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on December 04, 2012, 05:50:21 AM
I'm handling it pretty well. Sad that it went down the way it did but I have my game face on about trying to do what I can to get the successor up.

I'm outmatched in technical game building skills.

Outmatched in celebrity status. (Thanks alot VV!!)

Outmatched in journalism.

But I'm going to do what I can even if it's a mere drop in an ocean.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on December 04, 2012, 05:58:01 AM
Sgt Morris. I would like to extend a hand of gratitude for your distinguished military service. I wish you well.

Plus I have weird QoL issues that nobody else in the world seems to have.  (For example, when I activate Flight, my character drifts downward instead of flying straight ahead, until I adjust the camera.  Then when I land and take off I have to adjust the camera again to avoid drifting downwards.   The default camera position for Flight is "character slams face into ground", and I don't know why.  When I tell this to people over there, they just say "That's not supposed to happen" and don't actually tell me how to FIX it)

That would be because of the "default" camera position/angle in relation to the character. When you fly, you fly straight away from the camera, which is set slight above your character. Therefore, you fly into the ground. CoH had the same issue when a camera distance/angle toggle setting was turned on. I have found that if I use the mouse to (right mouse button) to look around and both buttons to move, I will fly where I want to, and not into the ground.

how to fix the default camera position/angle in CO, I haven't a clue. I haven't really looked that deeply into the settings for the game. I just log on occasionally to defeat some bad guys.

Inviting to a team is easy, I just type /invite suchandsuch.

Also, you may have been in different world maps for your mishes not to affect each other, if you click on their portrait in team then it should let you jump to their world map, going into map can do the same thing I think. Teaming in TOR isn't actually that bad, I think, though I try to have friends that I play with regularly.

EDIT: I didn't ever care for WoW, to me it was just a game I hated that took a lot of friends I enjoyed playing with away. CO .. I tried getting into that but I don't care for the gameplay and it's so.. subpar compared to COH, DCUO isn't enjoyable to me at all, I'll never play Marvel as it's just a diablo-esque style of game, and I hated combat in TSW. I actually am really enjoying TOR again, the best selling point for it is the story, the missions for your character.
I have found that if you are running 2 troopers (for example) you'd have to do their class missions separately. All the side missions, or the general kill x number of mobs missions can be done together. Plus, the game isn't all that great for re-playability. Since the story line is very linear. That was one of the things I liked about CoH. I could make 10 different characters, and not be doing the same set of missions by level 2 (or level 1 if I didn't go through the tutorial) every time.

I'm also an STO lifer and a TSW lifer as well. I do like to play games on my computer. :)

The last fantasy based MMO that I played was...WoW. Before that was LotRO, and before that was DDO.
They never really held that much appeal for me though. I got tired of playing fantasy based MMOs after the Realm Online.
I'd try them, but just couldn't get into them.

I'm not really sure how often I'll actually play TSW, since zombies and the occult isn't one of my interests.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 04, 2012, 06:43:08 AM
I am still sad that I can't sit down and login to the City. I miss my little creations. I even miss seeing the CoH icon on my desktop  I miss it all....the tears still come too easily. The thing that has helped is coming here to be with kindred souls and old friends, or I'd feel very isolated in my grief. There is much gratitude in my heart for Tony V and all that he's done/trying to do. It's true that we don't know what we've got until we lose it, but it's also true that we don't know what we've been missing until it arrives. I won't give up hope.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 04, 2012, 08:11:14 AM
I'm not really sure how often I'll actually play TSW, since zombies and the occult isn't one of my interests.
I pretty much agree.

Sure, I liked playing games like Resident Evil or some other Zombie/Supernatural affair on consoles and the like, but for an MMO? Ehhh, not so much, and this is coming from a guy who ran a Buffy-based RPG campaign for 3 years.

If I can be a Vampire that hunts other Vampires on TSW, that might be cool, but even then the novelty would wear off.

When it comes to MMO's, Superheroes are what I live to play.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tiriahna KnightRose on December 04, 2012, 08:18:17 AM
I feel... broken. It feels like a part of me has been cut away.

I work two jobs. I don't get out much, and when I do, it's with my coworkers.

I don't get along with my family. Not in the "occasional argument, possible fight, but still always there at funerals and christmas" fashion. I don't claim a good portion of my family anymore, and those I do claim are mostly because I got lonely and they came looking for me to apologize over things. And to make sure I wasn't dead.

Some days I work both jobs. Which means I'm working for a good twelve hours. When I come home, I'm exhausted, starving and grumpy. Then I get... got on coh. I would get on the team with my husband, KnightHawk Prime, and our friends. I'd say hi and get an immediate "TIRI!" or "Welcome Home!" In several cases it was "TIRI! Heard you had a bad day, lets fix that!" and a few times it was, "Tiri! We have a suprise for you! TWO 50S! Hope it makes your day better."

So how am I handling it? Ask me again Thursday, when I've worked both jobs for two days in a row. I keep thinking maybe if I type /sync, it will fix it?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 04, 2012, 08:45:30 AM
I hope you'll all forgive me, this thread is interesting from a psychological and a spiritual point of view.

The things you're all writing about here are not the tantrum of a child for a lost toy, or the pain of an addict in withdrawal. It seems to me the symbolic loss of characters we've all invested in reminds us all uncomfortably of our own mortality. One poster here called midnight the hour "reserved for executions." We know we all must die... someday. But this experience of "virtual death" has forced us to confront our mortality in a frightfully visceral way.

Moreover, we together experienced "the end of the world." A poster here mentioned "On the Beach," and I think we have together endured something that, at least emotionally, makes us feel very much like what the characters in that story must have experienced. I myself had no desire to remain for the final shutdown; is this so different from those in the book who, pointlessly, committed suicide rather than naturally perish?

What a dreadful trauma we have endured together! The catastrophe is virtual, but the grief is real.

But if I may... suppose we succeed in prying "the world" from the clutches of "the devil?" Suppose one day, the torches re-ignite in the now pitch-black Atlas Park. Will we not, together, have emotionally experienced the "resurrection" of our virtual selves and restoration of the world in something very like the visions and prophesies of the world's faiths? I expect more than one "hallelujah!" would be heard over the broadcast channels.

The eu-catastrophe would be virtual, but the joy would be real. That... oh, that would be something to experience, now wouldn't it?

"It goes like this, the fourth, the fifth...."
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tiriahna KnightRose on December 04, 2012, 09:06:25 AM
I hope you'll all forgive me, this thread is interesting from a psychological and a spiritual point of view.

The things you're all writing about here are not the tantrum of a child for a lost toy, or the pain of an addict in withdrawal. It seems to me the symbolic loss of characters we've all invested in reminds us all uncomfortably of our own mortality. One poster here called midnight the hour "reserved for executions." We know we all must die... someday. But this experience of "virtual death" has forced us to confront our mortality in a frightfully visceral way.

Moreover, we together experienced "the end of the world." A poster here mentioned "On the Beach," and I think we have together endured something that, at least emotionally, makes us feel very much like what the characters in that story must have experienced. I myself had no desire to remain for the final shutdown; is this so different from those in the book who, pointlessly, committed suicide rather than naturally perish?

What a dreadful trauma we have endured together! The catastrophe is virtual, but the grief is real.

But if I may... suppose we succeed in prying "the world" from the clutches of "the devil?" Suppose one day, the torches re-ignite in the now pitch-black Atlas Park. Will we not, together, have emotionally experienced the "resurrection" of our virtual selves and restoration of the world in something very like the visions and prophesies of the world's faiths? I expect more than one "hallelujah!" would be heard over the broadcast channels.

The eu-catastrophe would be virtual, but the joy would be real. That... oh, that would be something to experience, now wouldn't it?

"It goes like this, the fourth, the fifth...."

You have a way with words that most of us can only dream of.  Thank you.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Knightslayer on December 04, 2012, 10:46:01 AM
I've played one. In fact, she was my last level 50.

Believe me, it doesn't help :(
Yep... no Psi defenses or resists... =/
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: ohms on December 04, 2012, 10:54:51 AM
Quote
How are you handling the loss?

Not well.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TonyV on December 04, 2012, 11:01:47 AM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nishastra on December 04, 2012, 01:24:54 PM
It's funny, I hadn't actually been playing since well before the announcement (got tired of the solo Incarnate grind), but I had a dream a few days ago that there was still some alternate way to play it that I just hadn't thought about before for some reason.  After that I was sad.

I spent thousands upon thousands of hours in CoH.  Looking at my Amazon order history, in the mid 2000s almost everything was CoH.  So many time cards I bought, and I had every edition and preorder of CoH and CoV on my account.  It wasn't a game I played continuosly (I never play anything for more than a couple of months at a time), but it's something I always came back to.

And now, obviously, I can't do that any more.  It gets more sad the more I think about it.


I've tried numerous times to get into CO, but I just don't like it.  I can't seem to make a character I like the look of, as I don't really like the art style at all.  That's pretty much the beginning and end of it for me.  I can't play a character I don't like.

In DCUO it's pretty easy to make a nice-looking character, as you have extremely limited customization options!  I played the game to completion on a Joker villain in about a week, and then there was really no reason to go back...  I could have at least played some kind of hero through since they have different areas, but I couldn't even get myself to do that.

Maybe I'll try CO again.  I'm willing to bet I uninstall it after 5 minutes, though :P
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 04, 2012, 04:48:35 PM
"You have a way with words that most of us can only dream of.  Thank you."

Very kind of you. :: Bows. ::

"I want you spitting mad, but I also want you healthy physically and mentally for the battle.  To anyone who is having a genuinely hard time handling the shutdown, please seek help if you need it."

Hear hear! I said this early on: while the game isn't real, your grief is and you must take it seriously. Also remember what de Lachos (by way of Khan) taught us about revenge....

[Invul has] no Psi defenses or resists..."

Funny... a month ago I helped our beloved Ascendant respec, and gave him an anti-psi invul build that worked very well.  :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on December 04, 2012, 04:51:39 PM
It's curious how many things yank me back to Paragon City. Just this morning, I opened a Gawker article on banning public subsidies for private companies, and it had this picture as the leader:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=img.gawkerassets.com%2Fimg%2F18782020qe6zxjpg%2Fxlarge.jpg)
link if the image doesn't display (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18782020qe6zxjpg/xlarge.jpg)

My first thought was "The old Portal Corps buildings in the northwest corner of the Hive".
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Dollhouse on December 04, 2012, 05:04:21 PM
It's curious how many things yank me back to Paragon City. Just this morning, I opened a Gawker article on banning public subsidies for private companies, and it had this picture as the leader:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=img.gawkerassets.com%2Fimg%2F18782020qe6zxjpg%2Fxlarge.jpg)
link if the image doesn't display (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18782020qe6zxjpg/xlarge.jpg)

My first thought was "The old Portal Corps buildings in the northwest corner of the Hive".

That one actually yanks me back to Fallen Earth more than CoH...but I know what you mean. I see things all the time that just scream "Paragon City" to me. I live in an old part of Portland, and there are a lot of commemorative plaques and such on historical buildings. When I see one, I get the overpowering urge to click it...   :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on December 04, 2012, 06:45:44 PM
It's curious how many things yank me back to Paragon City. Just this morning, I opened a Gawker article on banning public subsidies for private companies, and it had this picture as the leader:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=img.gawkerassets.com%2Fimg%2F18782020qe6zxjpg%2Fxlarge.jpg)
link if the image doesn't display (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18782020qe6zxjpg/xlarge.jpg)

My first thought was "The old Portal Corps buildings in the northwest corner of the Hive".

that image reminds me of the sun setting in sharkhead isle behind the hellforge (which if looked at from the right angle would look similar to the cryptic logo)

also when i think about hellforge, i think of ncsoft
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on December 04, 2012, 08:06:45 PM

[Invul has] no Psi defenses or resists..."

Funny... a month ago I helped our beloved Ascendant respec, and gave him an anti-psi invul build that worked very well.  :)
Warshades don't come with Psi resists either. I managed to gain 12% through set bonuses.

It helped a little against the BP.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Epelesker on December 04, 2012, 09:10:58 PM
I've actually taken it relatively well.

As I've mentioned in other places, been playing Champions Online since September. I made sure to set up the UI and controls similar to how I had them in City, and that's done wonders in terms of getting used to the game and ultimately enjoying it (dare I say) just as much as the old game.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NeutronPixie on December 04, 2012, 09:37:09 PM
Saturday night I had a dream. I was sitting in the Shadow Shard, watching the colors. I woke up thinking I simply hadn't taken enough screen shots.. I thought I had, but I hadn't. Crashing sadness again.

...to sooth it, I come here.. I play TOR... I play a little CO... and I write.

Maybe that will be the legacy of CoH.. I will write and shadows of my time in CoH will be reflected there...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: ahmpizzedoff on December 04, 2012, 10:11:18 PM
On the day they announced CoH was being shut down, our SG lost one of our members to cancer. A dedicated player, we all felt a terrible pain between losing one of our SG family and then finding we were also going to lose CoH.

I continued to play hoping the end was just a joke concocted by the Devs for the opening of I24. Guess not, It was just wishful thinking. I stayed till the very end that last night. About 20 minutes from the end, an Admin, Heat Sink I think was the name, came on and announced the servers would be shutting down in 20 minutes. Again he came on and announced they would be shutting down in 10 minutes and made a comment, not verbatim, "I wish this wasn't happening. If it were up to me this would not happen. We've had a helluva ride together" Then for the final time he again came on, said," It's been a helluva ride. Fly Free," and about 2:10 AM Central time my screen locked up and CoH was no more.

The reality had finally hit. All of us not only lost CoH, we lost friends, family and a community. Now it's up to us to act as the Heroes we once were and fight to regain our community and CoH. With some luck and the perserverance of a Hero we will get our CoH back. Like that Admin. said, "FLY FREE," and fight to get our friends, family, community and CoH back.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: houtex on December 05, 2012, 02:24:57 AM
First, sorry to hear of the loss.  Never is something I can express well with words.  Feels just don't work with my hands/mouth very well. :(
 
---
 
I, for my part, am doing ok-ish. 

I was thinking this afternoon, though, about how I *won't* be able to log in and beat the hell out of some baddie who desperately needed 'arresting', because I really could use that.

But otherwise, yeah... I had made peace with things about a month ago.  I made my projects, did them, felt pretty satisfied at The End, and still have some hope that our beloved City will rise again. 

Still miss it a little, but doin'.. ok-ish.  Yeah.  Really wanna play, and visit in game, but... It is what it is, and I must cope, so I am.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 05, 2012, 05:19:29 AM
Gee... I didn't mention, did I? On the Saturday after Black Friday, my family lost our sealpoint Birman. That was a really bad weekend. She was only eleven, too.

We now have an adorable black kitten who fills the hole wonderfully. Anyway, I know a cat's nothing to losing someone to cancer. Still, sorrows come not single file, but in battalions.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 05, 2012, 07:42:44 AM
"When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions" - Claudius in HAMLET

So very, very true. Superb quote to have in mind Colette.

And I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your cat.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on December 05, 2012, 08:31:12 AM
After server shut down and finding the official forums closed, I came over to Titan and started this thread: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,6503.0.html   In addition to sharing and my ridiculously long posts there's advice from a player with experience as a Bereavement Counselor and other resources have been linked.

Friends made in-game have many of them become RL friends, and we keep in contact.  I'd cleared this weekend just past to allow time for grieving.  At this point I feel a LOT better.  I've allowed myself several emotional wallows and can now watch the Last ITF Ever youtube vid and others without tears, at least this evening.  The sorrow isn't all out until it is.  Sharing with the community has helped me tons, and I've made TN my "home" server, largely substituting these forums for time I'd have spent in game.  I'm lucky also in having non-CoH friends listen sympathetically.  They didn't play City of Heroes but they "got it" and understood.

Otherwise like just about everyone, I have other interests and activities to turn my attention to, but I'm not ready yet; thus other than activities like housework, I'm reading and posting to these forums as I regain my equilibrium.  Best wishes, regards and hugs to everyone in the Community.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 05, 2012, 10:23:07 AM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Undercat on December 05, 2012, 11:33:37 AM
Wow.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Knightslayer on December 05, 2012, 12:28:05 PM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Atlantea on December 05, 2012, 03:31:08 PM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Atlantea on December 05, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
that image reminds me of the sun setting in sharkhead isle behind the hellforge (which if looked at from the right angle would look similar to the cryptic logo)

That's because that was intentional. It was a subtle joke of the map designers. You look at the old Cryptic logo, and then compare it with a particular angle view of the hell forge and it really is the exact same image down to the proportions.

I did a double-take myself when I saw it. Later I had it confirmed. I think a dev mentioned it in passing in a post on the old forums.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Atlantea on December 05, 2012, 03:38:45 PM
I hope you'll all forgive me, this thread is interesting from a psychological and a spiritual point of view.

The things you're all writing about here are not the tantrum of a child for a lost toy, or the pain of an addict in withdrawal. It seems to me the symbolic loss of characters we've all invested in reminds us all uncomfortably of our own mortality. One poster here called midnight the hour "reserved for executions." We know we all must die... someday. But this experience of "virtual death" has forced us to confront our mortality in a frightfully visceral way.

Moreover, we together experienced "the end of the world." A poster here mentioned "On the Beach," and I think we have together endured something that, at least emotionally, makes us feel very much like what the characters in that story must have experienced. I myself had no desire to remain for the final shutdown; is this so different from those in the book who, pointlessly, committed suicide rather than naturally perish?

What a dreadful trauma we have endured together! The catastrophe is virtual, but the grief is real.

But if I may... suppose we succeed in prying "the world" from the clutches of "the devil?" Suppose one day, the torches re-ignite in the now pitch-black Atlas Park. Will we not, together, have emotionally experienced the "resurrection" of our virtual selves and restoration of the world in something very like the visions and prophesies of the world's faiths? I expect more than one "hallelujah!" would be heard over the broadcast channels.

The eu-catastrophe would be virtual, but the joy would be real. That... oh, that would be something to experience, now wouldn't it?

"It goes like this, the fourth, the fifth...."


Very nicely said. And yes - I want desperately to be able to log in and see Atlas holding up the world again in front of City Hall. Even if I had to do it all over again at level 1, I'd still love it.

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Atlantea on December 05, 2012, 04:00:44 PM
As for myself, it hit me harder initially than I thought it would.

I'd been holding the emotion at bay ever since about 3-4 days after the announcement by the simple fact of buckling down and doing as much of the content as possible. I had slacked off and been away from the game for 3-4 month stretches twice in the last year. And I had been missing out on content. In fact I'd been kind of casual about experiencing everything in terms of the important lore arcs since I always figured "there's time". But now there wasn't.

So I shoved it all aside and with the singular purpose of experiencing as much of the game's lore and content as possible and to get as many badges for my mains as possible, started playing the HELL out of the game. On it several hours per day more than I ever used to do. Taking so many screenshots and demorecords that I swear I must have added nearly 3-4 gigs of filespace just in my screenshots and demorecord folders alone in the 3 months between announcement and shutdown.

I regret that because of that I didn't have as much time to spend on the Beta server as I would've liked. I would've liked to try out more of the new powersets and costume options. But I did the -most- important parts to me. And those important parts were - running the Brickstown/New Praetorian arc with my original Praetorian former Loyalist. And running the final Praetorian Arc of the incarnate series with Cyberman 8.

All told I think I added somewhere around 300+ badges, mainly to C8, but also some to my other mains as well. And I at least successfully completed all the I-Trials and almost maxed out C8's incarnate slots. (And oh my god was he RIDICULOUS at that power level!)

And all of it came to a crashing halt at 2:04AM Central time Dec 1st. And... I've posted how that went over here -

http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,6493.0.html (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,6493.0.html)

Saturday and Sunday... very bad.

Monday... Well, not -good-. But I felt like I needed to help my SG mates who were mostly over into CO.

In fact, not to say I've been -boosting- CO. But I recognized early on that it was the closest thing to COH for many people. And I liked it and had been playing it off and on since it launched. It's not COH. It never will be. But I KNEW it. Knew it well enough to help people acclimate. Understood how to make the process of learning it's quirks go easier.

So on Monday I started resuming helping people around over there. The Cape Radio is there. A lot of friends are there.

It helps. A lot. As I said earlier - a good community can make even a mediocre game a good place to be. And CO is inheriting a good chunk of the COH community.

And I can help.

And in so doing, I find my pain eased a bit. I can help. And in some small way, I can live up to the ideal of the hero in that way.

So... that's how I'm coping. I can't just deal with it on my own. But I can by helping others.

It's not the fate I would have asked for, but it will do.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Samuraiko on December 05, 2012, 04:41:37 PM
I'm not taking it well at all.

But at least I got 1 (2, sort of) more videos done. :)

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 05, 2012, 06:27:55 PM
"Someone on EGM pointed out that NCSoft has poisoned the well for all MMOs by driving home this point, in the most brutal and public fashion they could imagine, that players of MMOs own nothing and have no rights."

That is important! It means the gaming journalists, and inevitably the providing companies, get it. We will now, inevitably, see modifications to new and even existing MMO contracts. They'll guard their absolute right to make a profit, of course, (and had CoH been running at a loss I'd shut my mouth and let go,) but I think we'll see many fewer arbitrary shutdowns.

Already it may be said some good has come out of this. The Superheroes have taken a bullet for the entire MMO playerbase. That is symbolically so very right, isn't it?

Moving on...

Y'know what I love about this community? Sunday we were all grieving and blue. By tuesday we were celebrating our impressive one-two-three punch of NC's execrably timed Seattle shutdown, the NY Times article, and the Korea Times article. Now morale is high and the stockwatch shows the enemy's reeling. We're all primed to seize the initiative and continue the fight.

God in heaven, we may win this yet!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on December 05, 2012, 06:32:29 PM
I'm feeling encouraged tho I hope not unduly so.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 05, 2012, 06:53:35 PM
I really don't want to get my hopes up, but at times like now it's kind of hard not to. Even if we don't win, it's very clear to me as it should be to all of you, that we didn't lose, either. Our voices were heard. We made a difference.

As for how I'm taking it? Not well. I barely slept last night, and have been wandering through my days aimlessly. I don't -want- to do anything, so I do nothing. There's just this strange emptiness that I've felt since the last minutes - I know it'll wear off. But in the meantime I'm having a very difficult time carrying on. I'm following all this more than I should. The healthy thing to do would be to put all this away for awhile and get my head on straight. But I'm not willing to do that, this game is my family. So, I'll try and balance things. Do things to help myself, while still poking in here to keep up to date.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 05, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
"I don't -want- to do anything, so I do nothing. There's just this strange emptiness."

Anhedonia, an aversion to anything fun. Standard with depression or post-trauma. Been there. Be patient and gentle with yourself.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on December 05, 2012, 06:59:27 PM
I hope you'll all forgive me, this thread is interesting from a psychological and a spiritual point of view.

The things you're all writing about here are not the tantrum of a child for a lost toy, or the pain of an addict in withdrawal. It seems to me the symbolic loss of characters we've all invested in reminds us all uncomfortably of our own mortality. One poster here called midnight the hour "reserved for executions." We know we all must die... someday. But this experience of "virtual death" has forced us to confront our mortality in a frightfully visceral way.

Moreover, we together experienced "the end of the world." A poster here mentioned "On the Beach," and I think we have together endured something that, at least emotionally, makes us feel very much like what the characters in that story must have experienced. I myself had no desire to remain for the final shutdown; is this so different from those in the book who, pointlessly, committed suicide rather than naturally perish?

What a dreadful trauma we have endured together! The catastrophe is virtual, but the grief is real.

But if I may... suppose we succeed in prying "the world" from the clutches of "the devil?" Suppose one day, the torches re-ignite in the now pitch-black Atlas Park. Will we not, together, have emotionally experienced the "resurrection" of our virtual selves and restoration of the world in something very like the visions and prophesies of the world's faiths? I expect more than one "hallelujah!" would be heard over the broadcast channels.

The eu-catastrophe would be virtual, but the joy would be real. That... oh, that would be something to experience, now wouldn't it?

"It goes like this, the fourth, the fifth...."

The first 3-4 days after a few minutes past midnight PST 11/30 have felt like a memorial service, at least such were my feelings and those of others.  If CoH is rezzed, how I'd feel is best described by Beethoven's 9th Symphony, 4th movement "Ode to Joy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paH0V6JLxSI
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 05, 2012, 07:00:53 PM
We'll start up a playlist for CapeRadio.  ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on December 05, 2012, 09:18:42 PM
We'll start up a playlist for CapeRadio.  ;D

If you want contributions for the 'rail against NCSoft' period, I would suggest Heather Alexander's "March of Cambreath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCrnF844_ww)".
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Cryfire on December 05, 2012, 11:18:59 PM
Yesterday I found myself running demorecord after demorecord (Have 638 saved) while listening to a bunch of City of Heroes music I'd downloaded, *sighs*

Been looking at a lot of games I use to play, Sims 3, Heroclix, Magic the Gathering and really just looking for something to fill my COX time now that it's gone.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: samfivedot on December 05, 2012, 11:59:35 PM
Mostly I've just been spending time playing around with the downloadable character creator. Because, wouldn't you know, the day after it closes I immediately come up with two new characters.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 06, 2012, 12:00:58 AM
A few of these still apply as I feel the loss

(https://i.imgur.com/E8fMY.jpg)

..my City is unique. Other games just aren't going to quite do it for me

(https://i.imgur.com/NXdH7.jpg)


Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 06, 2012, 12:04:35 AM
I like that image, but... Lineage 2? That's old too.  They should've made that dog be completely unrealistically shaped and had it say Blade and Soul beneath it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 06, 2012, 12:08:14 AM
Wow, that image sums things up pretty well for me.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sarge Morris on December 06, 2012, 12:26:14 AM

..my City is unique. Other games just aren't going to quite do it for me

(https://i.imgur.com/NXdH7.jpg)

Aye, I'm with you on this one.  I have zero interest in the other games, NC Scum or not.  Truth be told, and I know its probably heresy to admit this here, I really wasn't all that interested in CoH when I started, either.  But a friend of mine from home, someone who represented normalcy in my life, got me into it. 

He was a power player, rapidly leveling toon after toon so fast it was only his global ID that let me know who he was.  I....Was not.  Preferred to put time into my characters, stick with something familiar yet different enough to take my mind off things. 

Found Virtue's community, called it my home away from my home away from home. 

I'm working on writing out exactly what CoX meant to me, how it stacks up against my mindset and the like...  I'm getting kind of personal with it, and its harder to write than I thought.  Never really explored these issues while sober before, much preferring to tearfully reminisce over entirely too much whiskey, rum or Guinness or lose myself in a fantasy world.  Now that the latter option's gone, and the other option is not one I'd like to take any more, I suppose its time to face myself, get my shit straight.  Maybe, I don't know, sooner or later walk into a real life club or whatever with the same confidence and feeling of safety I had in Pocket D instead of leaving my apartment basically only to go to work. 

But, dammit, I want my City.  Don't give me that bullshit and tell me its just as good.  Fuck you, NC Soft, for what you've done.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 06, 2012, 12:26:30 AM
I like that image, but... Lineage 2? That's old too.  They should've made that dog be completely unrealistically shaped and had it say Blade and Soul beneath it.

fixed!
(https://i.imgur.com/K6gCQ.jpg)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ezuka on December 06, 2012, 12:29:11 AM
+1, Healix.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 06, 2012, 12:36:47 AM
A billion inf to you, Healix.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sophronisba on December 06, 2012, 12:43:03 AM
The last two days of my life have been really, really crappy (all business-related stuff, no one's sick or anything like that). I did not realize how much I relied on City of Heroes for stress relief until I couldn't log on for a quick radio mission or two just to clear my mind. There have been at least half-a-dozen times in the last two days when I've thought, "In a minute I'll take a break and do a tip mission....oh, no, wait, I can't do that anymore." It is just such a bummer.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: faith.grins on December 06, 2012, 01:40:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NXdH7.jpg)
Man, that's just so spot on.  It's not that our game died, it's that NCSoft took it away from us.  That stings as much as anything else about this:  had the game been unprofitable, and no one had wanted to buy it, I'd be less chafed about the shutdown, and I wouldn't feel so wronged.  But that's not what happened; Poppa NCSoft just decided City of Heroes was too dirty and smelly to keep around the house anymore, so he just dragged it out back and shot it.

The last two days of my life have been really, really crappy (all business-related stuff, no one's sick or anything like that). I did not realize how much I relied on City of Heroes for stress relief until I couldn't log on for a quick radio mission or two just to clear my mind. There have been at least half-a-dozen times in the last two days when I've thought, "In a minute I'll take a break and do a tip mission....oh, no, wait, I can't do that anymore." It is just such a bummer.
That was another thing I loved about City of Heroes.  It's broken up in such a way that if you just wanna pop in for thirty minutes and get back to whatever else you've got going on, you can do that and you don't feel like you're stopping in the middle of something.  Most MMOs don't do that because they are, in the words of Brian Clevinger, "Designed to make you spend as much time as physically possible on them without feeling like you're never getting anywhere.  They have equations on white boards for this shit.  They find the values of these numbers to a decimal point further than NASA bothers with."
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 06, 2012, 02:38:49 AM
We made slashdot mainpage.

We made MMORPG.com mainpage
"The efforts of the City of Heroes players have been spreading throughout the Internet. Celebrities such as actor Sean Astin, actress Tara Platt, authors Neil Gaiman, Mercedes Lackey, John C. Wright, Laurell K. Hamilton, and web comic artist and illustrator John Kovalic"

We aren't there yet. But we are almost to the point of pervasive.  Keep plugging.

Also, this:

http://lifehacker.com/5965703/the-science-of-storytelling-why-telling-a-story-is-the-most-powerful-way-to-activate-our-brains

Tell your stories.  Tell them everywhere.  So what if you attract unicorns?  No one will remember their idiocy and they WILL remember your stories because brains remember stories better than anything else.

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: SARobb on December 06, 2012, 05:26:43 PM
I'm upset tbh.  It was way easier when I could sign on and play a bit.  Now that I can't, I'm determined to get my home back...

A blast from the past:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcjoOdVHR8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcjoOdVHR8)



Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Terwyn on December 06, 2012, 05:49:14 PM
We made slashdot mainpage.

We made MMORPG.com mainpage
"The efforts of the City of Heroes players have been spreading throughout the Internet. Celebrities such as actor Sean Astin, actress Tara Platt, authors Neil Gaiman, Mercedes Lackey, John C. Wright, Laurell K. Hamilton, and web comic artist and illustrator John Kovalic"

We aren't there yet. But we are almost to the point of pervasive.  Keep plugging.

Also, this:

http://lifehacker.com/5965703/the-science-of-storytelling-why-telling-a-story-is-the-most-powerful-way-to-activate-our-brains

Tell your stories.  Tell them everywhere.  So what if you attract unicorns?  No one will remember their idiocy and they WILL remember your stories because brains remember stories better than anything else.

I was wondering where that article went to. I was going to use something similar back in Part III, but couldn't locate what I was looking for. Thanks!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on December 09, 2012, 01:48:42 AM
fixed!
(https://i.imgur.com/K6gCQ.jpg)

While I'm feeling much better than I did one week ago, part of me still feels like the child in this cartoon.   My inner child doesn't care how wonderful the other dogs are, but wants the doggie that was my beloved canine companion.  RL, we had to put our family dog to sleep for health reasons when I was 17.  I'd helped pick him when I was 4, so he was a constant in my life.  As he aged we cared for him, loved him as much as ever, and the idea of trading him in for a younger, more vibrant dog was unthinkable.

While the metaphor can be extended only so far - and not everyone feels about pets the way I do - we'd bonded.  City of Heroes was an amalgam of what one personally put into it, what the developers had put in, and what you, the community, put in.  No other MMORPG is ever going to give me the familiar comfort and fun I had playing City of Heroes no matter how objectively "better" its features may be.  My inner child cares not one whit about possible infirmaties in an "aging engine"; besides, from Issues 15 - 23 with a peek at i24 on Beta, the development team kept my MMO spruced up and always ready for more fun and adventure.

If ever I get to play CoH again, the first thing I'll want to do is ITF, that masterpiece of co-operation between rival opposites to fend off an even greater threat, a theme repeated from the Rikti War Zone, and later Dark Astoria.  This theme is a signature piece for City of Heroes 

While it's not the music that plays during the missions, this youtube captures as much as a single video can what I came to love and how I felt during Sunset:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdNaLitjgJs

(And, yeah, I've also read as best I can what the teammates said to one another during it.)

My first dog passed away 35 years ago.  I'm well over that grief, but I still love him, for he was the bestest dog!  And, ya  know, we'd bonded.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: faith.grins on December 09, 2012, 03:34:58 AM
If ever I get to play CoH again, the first thing I'll want to do is ITF, that masterpiece of co-operation between rival opposites to fend off an even greater threat, a theme repeated from the Rikti War Zone, and later Dark Astoria.  This theme is a signature piece for City of Heroes 
I likened the ITF to an old, comfortable couch, once.  It's not that it's the best couch money can buy; it's that it's a damn good couch that you've been using for years.  It feels right, perhaps because you've worn a you-shaped groove in its cushions.

Yeah.  I'll be rounding up ITFs and BAFs in Pinnbadges the day the servers come back online if I can.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Atlantea on December 09, 2012, 03:49:31 AM
This link was posted on the "thank the media" thread.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7273267891?page=1 (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7273267891?page=1)

I wanted to point out the main quote from the original poster on that thread:

...an MMO shutting down puts the player in the unusual situation of attending his own funeral; you play the role of the deceased and the survivor, and it's a sort of double-whammy when you know both what you've lost and what can never be revisited again.

That just sums it all up. Right there.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 09, 2012, 04:09:00 AM
In my case, the difference between today and yesterday is like light and dark. Yesterday I was really, really down. Today I was led to the very-cool DEMOlition .demorecord converter. After using it to convert a few Sentinel Plus files into neat little character-demos, I was inspired to learn some basic demo-editing, which eventually led to me creating this:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=corvusonline.net%2FCoX%2FAngelInvestigations02a.png)

Right now I'm in a pretty good mood :)

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 09, 2012, 05:14:23 AM
How did you do this? Could you write a little tutorial? I'd love to get a group photo of my people...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 09, 2012, 05:17:38 AM
Sure! I'll write something up and post it tomorrow :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 09, 2012, 05:20:32 AM
I think I would worship you if you did that.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 09, 2012, 05:23:56 AM
Heh, thanks. I promise to post an example of what I did, and to make it super-simple, I'll just go ahead and use Brickstown as an example, like I did above.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 09, 2012, 05:50:35 AM
Thank you so much already. I have the demolition and the Zloth demo player. All I need is your know how!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on December 09, 2012, 06:23:43 AM
I likened the ITF to an old, comfortable couch, once.  It's not that it's the best couch money can buy; it's that it's a damn good couch that you've been using for years.  It feels right, perhaps because you've worn a you-shaped groove in its cushions.

Yeah.  I'll be rounding up ITFs and BAFs in Pinnbadges the day the servers come back online if I can.

Not only do I find the thought of that pleasing -  remember I am a sentimental old silly, just not all the time - but I really like your metaphor of a truly comfortable couch, good quality, durable, yet comfortable for all the reasons you name.  Things that fit are comfortable.  Things that are familiar bring a certain level of comfort simply in the familiarity.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tahliah on December 09, 2012, 10:58:44 AM
How am I handling the loss?  Not well.  Not well at all.  After looking at, trying out so many other games, I truly realize the unique wonderfulness that was COX.  We talk a lot about the community, and yes, that was a key part of the game, but ultimately, I've found, that the actual game itself is irreplaceable.  I can't find another game that simply logging on to makes me smile, makes me happy.  I can't find another game that is as elegant and beautiful (working with the CO interface in all its clunky glory awakened me to that), nor one that that's basic level of engagement with toon builds was so intuitive and easy.  Sure, you could make your build as complex and fabulous as you wanted, but a basic, SO or IO build would serve you well.  It wasn't a nightmare to learn the recipes--they were right there, get these ingredients, and viola! the magic happens.  Not so with other games where you have to guess or research what runes/gems/shiny crap combines to make something (hopefully better, but who knows?).  Your build? Pick these powers and you can rock it!  Or, if you pick wrong, respec ahoy!  (So few games offer respecs, a thing I took totally for granted with COX).

I. Miss. Flying.  I miss regular flight, and I miss my rocket/hover board.  I loved that hoverboard thing so much.

I miss just running missions without umpteen mini-movies (I hate, really hate, cut scenes, and every freaking game has them, it seems).

I miss my friends.  I had two groups that I ran with regularly and another two that I ran with at set days/times.  I miss that.  They've all gone on to different games that I can't stand (SWTOR and CO mostly), but I just can't stand either and am heading, in the New Year, I think to TSW.  And yes, just mentioning the New Year makes me think nostalgically of the hideous Baby New Year . . . . heh.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 09, 2012, 11:22:26 AM
Tahliah, this is just for you :)
(https://i.imgur.com/QMUKa.jpg)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Inkitgee on December 09, 2012, 11:34:44 AM
I feel you on that one Tahliah.  Me and Sary were playing earlier today on CO and we kept screaming at our computers.  We were seriously missing Paragon.  The ease of getting into a group, the ease of getting mishes done and not pulling our hair out because we just kept dying so much and were unable to finish what we started.

Ugh.

I don't want to play any other game.  I'm finding it very hard to go back to any other game.  WoW doesn't cut it... CO is just pretty and I have no desire for DCUO... I really don't.  I miss my emotes, I miss my base and I miss looking at all the effort I put into the game.  It's getting to the point where I don't want to hear about anything else, I just want my virtual home back!

I was invited to a CoH meet and greet today in Raleigh-Durham and I received some nice merchandise, (shirts and a small figurine of Widow) and a few more maps to put up on my wall.  The general mood was unanimous in wishing Paragon was still around.

CoX has a standard that other games honestly can't match.  If another game ever did match it I'd be surprised and I'd be willing to try it out, but I don't see that happening... or perhaps I'm just being stubborn?

I've been busy getting all the music I can from the game and saving it on my computer so I can listen to it whenever I want.  It helps me with my fan art.

I've been working on images of me and my supergroup in AP33 during the protest.  I keep thinking about how we wanted to get into AP1 but it was slam full so we settled on 33 xD

I suppose I'm not handling it?  Hrm.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Celtic Lass on December 09, 2012, 12:17:35 PM
New poster here...

For me dealing with the loss of CoX has kind of been a roller coaster.  One day I think, "Okay, it's getting easier.   I'm doing better about all this", than the next I either read an article or see a fan video and I find my eyes welling up again.  I think it will be awhile for all of us, to be honest.  This has always been one of the best community involved games ever in my MMO experience... and City of Heroes was my first and most beloved.

At the moment, I have been staying offline for the most part and have had no interest in playing another MMO or a pseudo replacement for City of Heroes... to be honest the idea of "replacing" just seems repugnant to me.  So, right now I have been playing old console games for nostalgia sake and to try and keep my mind off of the loss of CoX.

My thoughts and prayers are with all of you, my favorite gaming community ♥
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: therain93 on December 09, 2012, 04:34:55 PM
So, I haven't played a game since and I get my City of Heroes fix from posting at this point, hopefully from helping other people out, notably in the demorecord subforum.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 09, 2012, 04:54:09 PM
Welcome, Celtic. Very much what we're all going through. Pull up a chair and join in the fight.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on December 09, 2012, 04:57:20 PM
I. Miss. Flying.  I miss regular flight, and I miss my rocket/hover board.  I loved that hoverboard thing so much.

I'm with you on everything you said, and this point especially. My thing was mostly super jumping and I miss it like crazy. I could spend literally hours at a time just super jumping or ninja running around, it was that much fun. I only had a handful of flyers, but when I saw that Void Skiff from the second super pack set... uggggghhhhh... I wanted it sooooo bad.


New poster here...

Howdy! Welcome to the forums.

*looks at your avatar*

Oooh! Looks like our new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher is here! Awesome :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 09, 2012, 09:48:32 PM
I promised a tutortial for my group-demo, and here it is!

http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7244.0.html
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Celtic Lass on December 09, 2012, 10:55:00 PM
Welcome, Celtic. Very much what we're all going through. Pull up a chair and join in the fight.

Thank you.  Oh yeah.  I've been leaving text gifties on NCSoft's Korean Facebook to relieve some of my frustrations.  I'm in it for the long haul.  ;D

Howdy! Welcome to the forums.

*looks at your avatar*

Oooh! Looks like our new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher is here! Awesome :D

I went through death and destruction in a TF for that hat.  No way was that ever coming off my main's head!  (And having 'Amy' around wasn't half bad either)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Mistress Urd on December 09, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
At least until the end of the year I will not be playing any MMO. I'm not real impressed with what else is out there and I am not in any real hurry to play something else.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Electro on December 09, 2012, 11:20:37 PM
Very badly.   >:(

I'm playing World of Warcraft on the Exodar server.  The guild I'm in is <HELLBENT>.

WoW is nowhere near CoH in quality, but the <HELLBENT> guild does have a lot of CoH refugees.  The community is awesome, "adult content" only, believe me.

The game is playable.  A bit boring, but playable.  The level grinding is fairly atrocious.  No IOs, no slots, etc.  But it's playable.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on December 09, 2012, 11:38:33 PM
I went through death and destruction in a TF for that hat.  No way was that ever coming off my main's head!  (And having 'Amy' around wasn't half bad either)

Totally understandable. It's a glorious piece of headgear, well worth spreading around a little death and destruction to get. And Amy's pretty decent company too, yeah :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 10, 2012, 12:47:20 AM
I promised a tutortial for my group-demo, and here it is!

http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7244.0.html

I love you.  I'd offer to have your children, but they took the factory out a long time ago.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 10, 2012, 01:12:47 AM
VV, you're gonna make me blush :)

Heh, thank you. I really hope it comes in handy!

Oh, by the way, I dig that particular Dido song. But then, there's not a Dido song I've come across that I don't dig on some level.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaos Arcanna on December 10, 2012, 02:46:56 AM
I still am not looking at screenshots. I have tested one demo to make sure I did it right. (Did not try to do so before the game was ending.)

I have been enjoying Champions Online a lot, to be honest. I just got to Monster Island this weekend and a fellow ex-COHer friend of mine helped me take down the robot T-Rex that wanders around there which was pretty fun.

I miss my characters, but I have been able to remake some of them in CO.

And as much as it hurts to know that it's not likely I'll ever fly around in Paragon City again, the thing that really kind of hurts is how so many of my friends are either moving onto games I don't care for or giving up gaming entirely.

I miss them more than the game, to be honest.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 10, 2012, 03:25:14 AM
I think I am going to try learning what I can do with all the demorecords I made over the last monthish.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: faith.grins on December 10, 2012, 03:42:31 AM
And as much as it hurts to know that it's not likely I'll ever fly around in Paragon City again, the thing that really kind of hurts is how so many of my friends are either moving onto games I don't care for or giving up gaming entirely.

I miss them more than the game, to be honest.
I know what you mean.  I miss the Pinnbadges channel about as much as I miss playing my Doms.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Vasarto on December 10, 2012, 04:34:07 AM
How can I make my demo records into mp4's or mpegs?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 10, 2012, 04:56:08 AM
I record mine with Bandicam:

http://www.bandicam.com/
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Graphite on December 10, 2012, 04:32:36 PM
To be fair... I'm not doing very well.

Growing up in the military and being a part of three different base closings, I didn't expect the closure of City of Heroes to be so hard.  When the servers went down, it hit me like a ton of bricks.  My optimism for the world gone.  It's like someone reached into my soul, flicked a switch and I no longer care.  I've now lost being a part of two different worlds that I so desperately love.  I will be an Exile from now till eternity.  And I no longer care.

The Statesman Mickey is still not done since my wife is working on other projects to get ready for yule.  I haven't written my letter to Disney (as if it really would make a difference).  And perhaps more importantly I haven't written my essay for college admissions.  The plan was to go into the ministry as a Unitarian Universalist Reverend, but I honestly don't know if that is still the plan.  My self imposed deadline has come and passed, and I no longer care.

I don't care about my church.  I don't care about my work.  I don't about my wife and child.  I really don't even care about myself.

Don't worry.

I tend to have a flair for the dramatic and am not going any where.  Just don't expect to "see" me for a long long time.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on December 10, 2012, 05:02:24 PM
i still have a burning hate for ncsoft atm

i been playing fallen earth some since i have a group of RL friends who play it, but im going as F2P as possible, definitely trying to not spend any money in it (so far i spent about $25 which is about all thats really needed)

ive also been playing a large assortment of other games i have on steam, but most are not MMO types
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 10, 2012, 05:15:57 PM
Graphite,

As I mentioned before, an-hedonia and apathy are common symptoms of grieving. Do not worry that this is a crisis of faith or a permanent state. However ill-timed it is, you're human and far from alone in your reaction.

If it's of any comfort, as you get older you get a lot of grieving done for pets, loved ones, catastrophes and disappointments, traumatic experiences and so forth. It's rotten and awful but you do gain experience and learn to cope more efficiently. 'Least that's what I've found. Anyway, the grief is real.

Necro, wrath is my coping mechanism too, and it can be a dangerous one. Wear a "leash," and allow others to pull it. Hope that metaphor made sense.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Graphite on December 10, 2012, 06:18:14 PM
Thanks Colette,

I found this article and it seems very appropriate to all of us who have lost our game:

http://balancedworklife.com/uncategorized/wreck-it-ralphs-top-ten-tips-for-restarting-the-game-of-life/
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Mandrake on December 10, 2012, 08:46:50 PM
... Wear a "leash," and allow others to pull it ...

Depending on the preferences of your significant other... this can also be a fantastic stress reliever.  ;D

C'mon - you know you were thinking it. You needed that chuckle... and perhaps an interesting gift idea!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on December 10, 2012, 09:01:38 PM
I'm entering my second week of CoH-lessness.  I'm feeling better, and Champions is not as bad as I'd feared now that I've had a chance to get used to it, but I still miss CoH and my characters terribly.  CO doesn't feel like a home, it just feels like a waypoint, a place to dabble for a while (with the hope that CoH comes back).  I'm certainly not going to pay for a lifetime subscription there.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on December 10, 2012, 09:07:28 PM
I'm entering my second week of CoH-lessness.  I'm feeling better, and Champions is not as bad as I'd feared now that I've had a chance to get used to it, but I still miss CoH and my characters terribly.  CO doesn't feel like a home, it just feels like a waypoint, a place to dabble for a while (with the hope that CoH comes back).  I'm certainly not going to pay for a lifetime subscription there.

yeah take some time getting used to without COX for some especially for players that may have played for years as the sole game.


There is not another game, wont be another game, will never be another game that will be COX. That is what made COX good to me. There wasnt another game like it. Of course with everything there is a downside. When stuff like what happened to COX happens, it can be hard to find a replacement since there was and or is not any other game like it out there.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on December 10, 2012, 09:17:57 PM
To be fair... I'm not doing very well.

Growing up in the military and being a part of three different base closings, I didn't expect the closure of City of Heroes to be so hard.  When the servers went down, it hit me like a ton of bricks.  My optimism for the world gone.  It's like someone reached into my soul, flicked a switch and I no longer care.  I've now lost being a part of two different worlds that I so desperately love.  I will be an Exile from now till eternity.  And I no longer care.

The Statesman Mickey is still not done since my wife is working on other projects to get ready for yule.  I haven't written my letter to Disney (as if it really would make a difference).  And perhaps more importantly I haven't written my essay for college admissions.  The plan was to go into the ministry as a Unitarian Universalist Reverend, but I honestly don't know if that is still the plan.  My self imposed deadline has come and passed, and I no longer care.

I don't care about my church.  I don't care about my work.  I don't about my wife and child.  I really don't even care about myself.

Don't worry.

I tend to have a flair for the dramatic and am not going any where.  Just don't expect to "see" me for a long long time.

I'm sorry it hit you like a ton of bricks but I certainly understand.  The shock of grief can be numbing.  Some times the mind insulates itself from pain by invoking numbness and an I-don't-care attitude.  Unless that attitude is your default, I expect your attitude will go back to normal or what it was before all this in time.  It just takes time.  Given this is affecting how you feel about other aspects of your life such as work, the people closest to you, and other major parts vital parts of your life, I suggest you go for a State Break.  Purposefully try to cheer yourself up.  At least it's what I would do, along with thinking about stuff, maybe letting out some tears, if that's not too unmacho.   I gotta say I have a lot of respect for men who allow themselves to cry when sad, since it often feels taboo to be "weak" and admit to sorrow.  I've known policemen and military officers to cry over saddening losses and no one thought they were weird.  You certainly don't want to put your life on hold.  Your wife and child will be wanting to celebrate the Yule with you.  Grief can be paralyzing.  It needs to be shaken off if it can, but one's feelings are what they are, and there's little use in ignoring them; they have to be dealt with.  When I ignore feelings, it just comes around to bite me.  Depending on your self-assessment of how you're doing the next few days - and be sure to ask your wife and friends for feedback - you may want to talk with someone sympathetic about this, even potentially a counselor.  You mention a church, so apart from other professionals in your area, often churches have credentialed counselors who'd understand grief and bereavement, though it might take your explaining  to them your loss and resulting feelings and change in attitude.  Thus far I've been very impressed with Unitarian Universalist ministers.  I bet you could find some support and understanding there, even if it did feel a little weird having to explain it.   Don't worry about the letter to Disney; you have bigger fish to fry, including that college admission essay.   Wishing you the best,
John


*noting I just modified this to correct a couple of misspelled words*
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Globetrotter on December 10, 2012, 09:28:40 PM
10 days after the closure ....  still feeling a bit numb after having played only this game for almost 9 years (since february 2004).

But .... I started to learn about demo-editing. It is time consuming, learning something you know nothing about. But then ... I should start with something simple, and not try to make an award winning video.

On the plus, I play with my characters, I love so much. I see them and fantasy more about them, making stories up in my head. (The stories ahve a hard time leaving the head and end up to papter though). Finding music fitting for my heroes.

And guess what .... I can stop any time now, not having to complete something timed, or leave in the midst of a hot battle to answer the phone :-)

Gradually climbing up and finding another hobby.

I am not interested at all in another game. I will start picking up reading again very soon.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on December 10, 2012, 09:37:09 PM
To be fair... I'm not doing very well.

Growing up in the military and being a part of three different base closings, I didn't expect the closure of City of Heroes to be so hard.  When the servers went down, it hit me like a ton of bricks.  My optimism for the world gone.  It's like someone reached into my soul, flicked a switch and I no longer care.  I've now lost being a part of two different worlds that I so desperately love.  I will be an Exile from now till eternity.  And I no longer care.

The Statesman Mickey is still not done since my wife is working on other projects to get ready for yule.  I haven't written my letter to Disney (as if it really would make a difference).  And perhaps more importantly I haven't written my essay for college admissions.  The plan was to go into the ministry as a Unitarian Universalist Reverend, but I honestly don't know if that is still the plan.  My self imposed deadline has come and passed, and I no longer care.

I don't care about my church.  I don't care about my work.  I don't about my wife and child.  I really don't even care about myself.

Don't worry.

I tend to have a flair for the dramatic and am not going any where.  Just don't expect to "see" me for a long long time.


I'm  not very good as the sentimental type but I felt moved to reply.


I been in the military too. Got out because I got tired of moving around so often. Couldnt start a family because by the time I met someone I had to go. Couldnt have a close group of friends because by the time it was formed it was time to go or they got restationed. It was good times but I dont miss it because now, I can finally settle down. 


Take it one day at a time, man. Try to not let this incident affect things that may affect things for the long term or for life. Take this time to get closer to your family, besides you dont want something to happen and regret not spending more time with them. Take this time to get those goals done, so in the end when this pain pass, there is no regret. Trust me, I wish I had a family now to cherish but I dont. Sometimes  i wished I would have never joined the military. Maybe by now my kid would have been going on ten years old but now I'm just starting due to the military life and probably wont get the opportunity to make another one before I start to get gray and thinking about retirement instead of raising a family. My only hope now is really a ready made family when it should have been someone I should have been growing up old with and having someone to talk about the "good ole' days" but the military decision ruined that. In the end I have to keep on trucking.

One day at a time man. One day at a time. Dont let it defeat you.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: YourDemise on December 10, 2012, 09:40:56 PM
Started the game up last night just to hear the music, incredible how many memories one little tune can bring back  :'(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Alchemedic on December 10, 2012, 10:38:05 PM
I've been reading a few of these posts. They're really very moving. People are being honest about their feelings about losing what is clearly so much more than just a piece of entertainment, and just as importantly, other people are responding with kindness and counsel.  That's one of the biggest supports this forum has come to offer -- a place where nobody is going to question why this game has come to mean so much to you, or why this loss hurts so much.

Colette mentioned anhedonia, which is the loss of pleasure in things that used to be meaningful to you. I'm very glad that she did, because many people don't realize that anhedonia is a common response to loss. This is not permanent. (From what I've read so far, everything she has said has been spot on.)

Recovering from any loss can take a long time. There's no one strategy for going through the process. Some people are forswearing any other games; others are finding ways to enjoy other games that are out there. There are many coping mechanisms, and what works for some people does not work for others.

Graphite, and anyone who is in a lot of pain: be gentle with yourself. Give yourself time to experience a whole mess of emotions and mental responses. Realize that the feelings will come and go, in waves. Don't worry about whether you've gone through any "stages of grief." (In fact, you can actually ignore that concept. If it helps you, use it; but don't feel you need to follow it.) Just realize that you have a lot of feelings to explore, and you will in fact survive. Give yourself permission to grieve, and then give yourself time to heal.

The amazing quality of the CoH community has clearly, and unsurprisingly, outlived the game!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 10, 2012, 11:10:05 PM
Thanks for the kind words, Alchemedic.

"Sister Colette" set herself up as Virtue server's unofficial chaplain, so I guess continuing as she would is my own self-serving way of coping and keeping her "alive."
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on December 10, 2012, 11:29:07 PM
I've been reading a few of these posts. They're really very moving. People are being honest about their feelings about losing what is clearly so much more than just a piece of entertainment, and just as importantly, other people are responding with kindness and counsel.  That's one of the biggest supports this forum has come to offer -- a place where nobody is going to question why this game has come to mean so much to you, or why this loss hurts so much.

Colette mentioned anhedonia, which is the loss of pleasure in things that used to be meaningful to you. I'm very glad that she did, because many people don't realize that anhedonia is a common response to loss. This is not permanent. (From what I've read so far, everything she has said has been spot on.)

Recovering from any loss can take a long time. There's no one strategy for going through the process. Some people are forswearing any other games; others are finding ways to enjoy other games that are out there. There are many coping mechanisms, and what works for some people does not work for others.

Graphite, and anyone who is in a lot of pain: be gentle with yourself. Give yourself time to experience a whole mess of emotions and mental responses. Realize that the feelings will come and go, in waves. Don't worry about whether you've gone through any "stages of grief." (In fact, you can actually ignore that concept. If it helps you, use it; but don't feel you need to follow it.) Just realize that you have a lot of feelings to explore, and you will in fact survive. Give yourself permission to grieve, and then give yourself time to heal.

The amazing quality of the CoH community has clearly, and unsurprisingly, outlived the game!

I wanted also to add my thanks as well, Alchemedic.  Actually I was going to note but see you've modifited your post, to thank you for your quick summary on Elizabeth Kubler-Ross "Stages of Grief" important tho it was no longer being the model used in Counseling Psychology.  What you said about processing grief in waves, not only made sense, it matches my own experience when dealing with a significant loss.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on December 10, 2012, 11:39:01 PM
Graphite,

As I mentioned before, an-hedonia and apathy are common symptoms of grieving. Do not worry that this is a crisis of faith or a permanent state. However ill-timed it is, you're human and far from alone in your reaction.

If it's of any comfort, as you get older you get a lot of grieving done for pets, loved ones, catastrophes and disappointments, traumatic experiences and so forth. It's rotten and awful but you do gain experience and learn to cope more efficiently. 'Least that's what I've found. Anyway, the grief is real.

Necro, wrath is my coping mechanism too, and it can be a dangerous one. Wear a "leash," and allow others to pull it. Hope that metaphor made sense.

oh i definitely keep it under control, but i have made it very clear to my friends that i will not ever touch any ncsoft game (cause at least 2 of my friends like guild wars 2)

one of my friends ive talked to more extensively regarding the closing (the announcement and all the responses from ncsoft and information i know about coh) and hes even puzzled about why the game was closed (he played a little bit after some prodding from me but never really got into it too much)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 11, 2012, 05:47:19 AM
In our busy lives, people come and go. Sometimes, when they are gone, we wish we'd told them how much they meant to us, but it's too late. I am so lucky that both sides of my family are loving, nutty, affectionate and supportive. "I love you" is said often, and the men of my clan hug without shame or resevation.
So, it's time to tell you, my CoH 'family' how I feel.

You never knew
when my wonderful father passed years ago, I went to The City to escape my sorrow for a brief while. The strangers and friends I teamed with made me laugh and gave so much to my heart, without realizing it.

You never knew
when I suffered from a case of  the "poor me's" from time to time, heading to Paragon got me back on track. Helping a newbie with information/influence felt good. Sometimes, folks would open up and tell me things.

You never knew
all the times I actually cried while I played, either from sadness or happiness. It was good to be with other players in those moments.

You never knew
what you have meant to me, whether we only teamed once, or became friends.
So, I am telling you now. Thank you from the bottom of my heart just for being a very important part of my life. Being able to come here is helping with not being able to log in to CoX.
I love you guys.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 11, 2012, 05:48:42 AM
In our busy lives, people come and go. Sometimes, when they are gone, we wish we'd told them how much they meant to us, but it's too late. I am so lucky that both sides of my family are loving, nutty, affectionate and supportive. "I love you" is said often, and the men of my clan hug without shame or resevation.
So, it's time to tell you, my CoH 'family' how I feel.

You never knew
when my wonderful father passed years ago, I went to The City to escape my sorrow for a brief while. The strangers and friends I teamed with made me laugh and gave so much to my heart, without realizing it.

You never knew
when I suffered from a case of  the "poor me's" from time to time, heading to Paragon got me back on track. Helping a newbie with information/influence felt good. Sometimes, folks would open up and tell me things.

You never knew
all the times I actually cried while I played, either from sadness or happiness. It was good to be with other players in those moments.

You never knew
what you have meant to me, whether we only teamed once, or became friends.
So, I am telling you now. Thank you from the bottom of my heart just for being a very important part of my life. Being able to come here is helping with not being able to log in to CoX.
I love you guys.

I simply could not have said it better myself although I have not lost any family members, only parrots I loved as well as family members.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 11, 2012, 05:57:58 AM
Mecedes, your reply has given me one of the biggest honors of my life.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Aura Controller on December 11, 2012, 06:24:12 AM
I just found this post, check on this site every so often. If I checked it to much I'd honestly probably go crazy, some of the things people say on here crush me and others make me wanna do drastic things.

I've been... dealing with CoX shutdown decently enough. Lost a lot of friends. I mostly been throwing myself into whatever I can to detract myself from thinking about CoX. Been dealing with my brother... and his drug problems. He's almost completely jacked up the door on the house from slamming it. But who cares about that? My personal life right? >.>

But yeah I'm doing... ok, remade one of my most favorite chars on CO. Willow Hemera, helps to get on her more then one might think.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: faith.grins on December 11, 2012, 07:02:49 AM
Been dealing with my brother... and his drug problems. He's almost completely jacked up the door on the house from slamming it. But who cares about that? My personal life right? >.>
Wow that's... that's a new one.

Sadly, if I knew you in real life I could offer more help, as my mother does a lot of rehab counseling.  I don't know the nature of your brother's problem, but I do recommend rehabilitative counseling.  It doesn't have to be part of a program, or as an outpatient at a center or anything.  For a lot of folks, turning to drugs is just easier than dealing with the other things going on in their life.  Sometimes (maybe even most of the time) it's not even a decision they've made consciously, they just turn to something they've learned makes them feel less crappy about the mess they live with.  Addiction is a complex problem, but from what I've seen learning what's wrong in the first place (by talking to someone trained to notice these things and coach you through realizing it for yourself) makes the rest of the process much, much more possible to tackle.

Anyway, yeah, best of luck with that.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on December 11, 2012, 08:19:47 AM
You never knew
when my wonderful father passed years ago, I went to The City to escape my sorrow for a brief while. The strangers and friends I teamed with made me laugh and gave so much to my heart, without realizing it.

My mother passed last fall, and The City is where I went as well. I feel the exact same way about the people here. The close friends, the fun friends, the people I didn't know but still liked. Which turned out to be most of them. That's right, I liked most of the people I met here. How often does that happen?

I have nothing but love for this city and the people in it. Nothing but love. <3 <3 <3
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: ladycat924 on December 11, 2012, 09:50:33 AM
I wasnt handling it well at all. I have played CO at times with my husband, and always said it did not hold a candle to my love for and enjoyment of CoH. (No insult intended to those who like it, and I am getting along better in it since I learned how to adjust the costume body sliders for a more CoH look to my characters.)

Today though (actually yesterday, as it is WELL past midnight and into Tuesday for me now), I started working with my first tries at demo creating and editing. Got some help over in the demo edit subforum and made my first demo with my only 3 50s. Considering one of the three I only have a costume file for (somehow missed her in all my Sentinal+ savings and only discovered that Monday), I was tremendously grateful for the examples and help, and ultimately I was SUCCESSFUL! (Complete wonder and amazement there.)

Here is a still shot from that cohdemo file:
http://s184.beta.photobucket.com/user/ladycat924/media/CoH/GroupShotFixed.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

I can see that demo editing is going to be my salvation. Being able to put my characters in motion and in different areas is such a rewarding feeling. I can see my girls and even put them together like they have never been before. I am brimming with ideas and voraciously reading all the demo subforums and outside links. I am excited and enjoying the learning and creating, it is a solace to my grief to be able to DO things with my characters and see what my imagination and work can create.

I dont know how many others might find the same joy in working with demos that I have, but for those having trouble managing the grief, I would highly recommend trying it as an outlet/coping mechanism. It is surely helping me even if it is keeping me from sleeping this first night of exploration!

Wishing peace to all of us in this time of loss,
Cat
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Celtic Lass on December 11, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
Much better today since using CoHDemoLauncher! (Thank you SOOO much for the tutorial, corvus1970!).

When I launched the program and saw my favorite girls standing together for the first time in Atlas Park, I won't lie, I shed a happy tear.  It really made my morning.  :D

TOP:  Mischki (DB/WP Scrapper) my mischievous little alien refugee.  LEFT TO RIGHT:  Star of Hope (Str/WP Tank) , Fyre Banshee (Fire/Kin Controller), Tessa Tempo (BM/TM Mastermind).

(https://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa341/xXPixieBratXx/AvengeCOH/mytopgirls.png)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 11, 2012, 03:49:33 PM
Gotta learn CoHdemo myself.

Hee hee! Good to see, Celtic. I'm kind'a... reassured, you bein' a female and all, that your characters dress provocatively. Feel a little less guilty about one or two of mine.

Watched a couple of videos from Blade and Soul. Loathe the character models and slutty clothes, but oh man, I'm jealous of that graphics engine! CoH 2 could have been amazing.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on December 11, 2012, 04:22:23 PM
I dreamed about Champions Online last night.  It fits in this topic because what I dreamed is that I discovered that I could use my CoH costume files in CO.  "Oh, of course!" I thought in the dream, "They're both originally by Cryptic, so naturally the costume files are compatible."

.... needless to say, when I woke up, I seriously doubted that it would work (and it didn't, of course), but that didn't stop me from trying it anyway. (Two different ways of trying it, even - I opened one of the costume images as a text file and replaced all the relevant text with the text from a CoH .costume file)

I was disappointed despite myself.

I miss my characters, my Other Selves, is what I'm saying here.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Celtic Lass on December 11, 2012, 04:51:23 PM
Gotta learn CoHdemo myself.

Hee hee! Good to see, Celtic. I'm kind'a... reassured, you bein' a female and all, that your characters dress provocatively. Feel a little less guilty about one or two of mine.

Watched a couple of videos from Blade and Soul. Loathe the character models and slutty clothes, but oh man, I'm jealous of that graphics engine! CoH 2 could have been amazing.

Like my grandma always said... "If ya got it, flaunt it.".  Showy but not pornographic showy, if you know what I mean.  Hence why normal bust size and not torpedo size lol  ;)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: AlphaFerret on December 11, 2012, 07:36:27 PM
I thought that i would handle the closure of coh well.  After all, there are all kinds of other games out there to play.  However, the closer the big day came, the more I realized how much my beloved Paragon City would be missed.  I had been protecting the citizens of Paragon since 2004.  I have had several lapses....the whole other games to try thing.  I had always returned.  I was all set to resume my VIP status in the fall...until I couldn't.  I wanted to vent my rage in the coh forums...but since i was not VIP, I couldn't.  I wanted to revive my old sg for a final round of glory for the end of days...but since the announcement, most fled....so I couldn't.  I finally realized that all of these "I couldn't" moments, signified the greatest loss of all.  I no longer had the choice to enjoy my characters, my friends, or my City of Heroes.  My toggles have dropped.  Perma stun has set in.  Malta wins in the end.  I have been drained.

Hopefully, this mess gets sorted out with a return to Paragon.  Like I tell my buddies at the GURPS table...If you have dice you have a chance.

Word;)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on December 11, 2012, 09:29:56 PM
Like my grandma always said... "If ya got it, flaunt it.".  Showy but not pornographic showy, if you know what I mean.  Hence why normal bust size and not torpedo size lol  ;)

Torpedoes AWAY! :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 12, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
Right with you, Alpha. I got caught in one of my occasional breaks from the game when the announcement hit. (How hard is it to give us notice?) It really got in the way. But don't worry about venting on the official boards, the place's death spiral was uuuug-lee!

"Showy but not pornographic showy, if you know what I mean."

I was rather proud when someone said to "Colette," "at last! A female character with realistic proportions!"   8)  Mind, one of my other characters went around in a thong, so I'm not completely off the hook.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JanessaVR on December 12, 2012, 12:39:01 AM
"Showy but not pornographic showy, if you know what I mean."

I was rather proud when someone said to "Colette," "at last! A female character with realistic proportions!"   8)  Mind, one of my other characters went around in a thong, so I'm not completely off the hook.
I've always said it's easy to spot the 14 year-old boys playing female characters in an MMO - they're the ones running around with max-slider breasts wearing bikinis.   :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 12, 2012, 01:02:11 AM
LOL...there was SO much of that in the early days of the game...the original female mesh had the 'gumdrops' on the chestal area. That was changed around Issue 2 or 3, but you could still download the mod for the original mesh at Coldfront's for a while. There was still show-through on dark tops. (I have the pics saved, but won't post unless a lot of people want to see)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 12, 2012, 01:02:41 AM
The one in the thong? "Dale Vultan?" A winged hawk-woman. If you look closely, you can see I achieved that look with the mesh pattern. Pink dots on yellow make flesh tone.

(https://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s556/JackNolan1/dale.jpg)
Some wag in the D dubbed her the "Flying Buttress."  ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 12, 2012, 04:09:43 AM
Just had kind of a hard moment. A friend, a good friend of mine, expressed complete disinterest in this entire movement. He spoke of how he just expected us all to just move on with life instead of dwelling and fighting the way we all are.

For the briefest of moments, I actually considered if I was in the wrong. Am I overreacting? Am I holding on too long? Should I just get over it and move on with my life?

It didn't take long for me to shake that off though, and remember why I'm doing what I'm doing. What I'm trying to save, and more than that, what point I'm trying to make to gaming companies and gaming communities. My friend spoke of accepting defeat and moving on, but... he's wrong. Because even though we haven't yet won, we will never lose. We have made an impact. We have made a difference... and, perhaps some time from now, when a company decides to shutter a game for less than valid reasons, they'll remember the Heroes. They'll remember our actions, they'll remember what we've been doing since August 31st, 2012... and maybe they'll reconsider.

Maybe, just maybe, even if we can't save our game, we can save someone elses. A game, a community we don't know. A community that doesn't know us. They'll never know we indirectly saved them. They'll never know that they came so close to the brink before the powers that be backed off, remembering what people who play their games are capable of doing to their reputation, when they're wronged.

This is why I fight. It's not even about the game anymore, it's about people. I don't want anyone to have to feel what I felt, and still feel now.  In game, I may have primarily been a villain, but our actions since the announcement have been nothing short of heroic.

But we knew that. After all, this is what we do.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 12, 2012, 04:22:20 AM
Perfidus, not everyone is going to 'get' why we love our City or why we want it back. This includes dear friends and even family.


Quote
Maybe, just maybe, even if we can't save our game, we can save someone elses. A game, a community we don't know. A community that doesn't know us. They'll never know we indirectly saved them. They'll never know that they came so close to the brink before the powers that be backed off, remembering what people who play their games are capable of doing to their reputation, when they're wronged.


You know in your heart that what you are doing here matters. Be proud for taking a stand for us and others. I am proud to be in this community with you. 

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 12, 2012, 04:29:34 AM
Perfidus, there's a reason he doesn't get it.  He still thinks City was "just a game."

City was never a game.

City was a town built around a theme park.  People were drawn to that town for a lot of reasons, and they stayed because of the other people in that town.  We went out, went to work, came home, and then we all went to the theme park.  Some of us were there every night, some just a couple nights a week, but it was always there.  The devs kept listening and making more rides that we liked, and the old rides were enough fun that it didn't matter if we'd ridden them 3 times or 33 times, we were always good for one more trip.  But we wouldn't have stayed if it hadn't been for the people.

Some wise religious man--and I completely forget who it was--once said "put yourself in the attitude of prayer, and prayer will come."  We put ourselves in "the attitude of heroes"--and we all became a little more heroic.  Maybe it was in raising money for charity.  Maybe it was in offering a stranger some inf or showing a newbie the ropes.  Maybe it was just taking the time to be kind to the kid at the drive-through window.  Maybe it was really going out of your way and outside your comfortzone in the real world to do something for someone else, like staying up all night to talk an SG-mate through some bad times.  Maybe it was chipping in to help someone with his bills.  Little things, not so little things...somehow, being heroes part time made us more heroic full-time.  And as we became more heroic, we liked each other more.

Our characters, our toons...even if you scoffed at RP, still, you put something of yourself into every toon you made, and you reacted to the missions and the content inside the skin of that toon.  For me, at least, being a writer, every one of the 60-odd characters I created was as, if not more, alive to me than the characters I create for books.  Some of them I spent more time with than any book character--even in a series, I normally don't spend more than a year inside the head of any one character.  I had characters whose skin I had shared for more than seven years.  I knew them better than most living humans in my life, and I bet some of you have the same experience.  Of course we knew them better than living people around us--that doesn't trivialize the people around us or make us crazy.  We created these characters, we know their thoughts, and short of developing telepathy, you can never know another live human as well as we can know our characters.  They're part of us; we're part of them.

So in one blow, we have lost our home--NCSoft just ran a bulldozer through it.  Friends are gone, scattered--we never thought for a moment that we wouldn't have the City to connect with them.  We've lost our social support net.

And we have lost "children" we know as well as we know ourselves, who are part of us--NCSoft has buried them in an unmarked grave.  We have no place to mourn but here, and no place to go but here.  There's no urn on the mantlepiece, no marker we can visit, and the murderers sit on the other side of the ocean and smirk and dismiss us as inconsequential children, easily distracted.

Cry.  Rage.  Cry some more.  I'm going to.

I'm also going to work.  I am not going to give up until the last possible way to bring back the City has been tried and has failed.  You have my word, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 12, 2012, 04:32:50 AM
VV...you paint pictures with your words. Thank you for decorating my soul with your 'artwork'
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 12, 2012, 04:45:29 AM
Yes. Thank you, VV. I may be in tears, but it's a very powerful feeling to know when you're understood, and that someone feels like you do, and they are capable of expressing your own feelings better than you yourself are.

And to you, healix. Thank you as well. Before joining Titan, I'll be honest, I didn't know most of you guys. But I was immediately accepted into the community. We understand each other, we have common ground... besides, come to think of it, I didn't join any community. This was already my community.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on December 12, 2012, 05:03:54 AM
"We put ourselves in "the attitude of heroes"--and we all became a little more heroic."

Does anyone remember Rod Serling's Twilight Zone? These people wore these masks...? Here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-3VZPzQ1-M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-3VZPzQ1-M)

Role-playing is like that. That is a part of why I prefer "superheroes" to the Robbers and Burrows games.

"He spoke of how he just expected us all to just move on with life instead of dwelling and fighting the way we all are."

For those of you who had to endure a uhm... bit of drama earlier today, I regret it. When the other party said something similar, that is what drove me over the edge! Y'see, if I was our adversary, the message I'd want to say over-and-over to the members of SaveCoH is, "just give up and move on." I now mistrust anybody who says that to us, so be warned.

It is a game, yes. It is a wonderful game! It is an ennobling and elevating game. So few of life's experiences are ennobling and elevating, and those few, we call "culture." We preserve culture and pass it on to our children, as the greatest share of our legacy and their birthright. Paragon City is culture.

To invert the evil Hanns Johst, when I hear word of someone destroying culture, I reach for my revolver.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: DrakeGrimm on December 12, 2012, 05:58:11 AM
We put ourselves in "the attitude of heroes"--and we all became a little more heroic.

This. This, this, this. Like, +1, everything.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Celtic Lass on December 12, 2012, 07:17:30 AM
"We put ourselves in "the attitude of heroes"--and we all became a little more heroic."

Perfectly stated!  CoX inspired us to be better than who we believe ourselves to be. (https://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa341/xXPixieBratXx/Forum%20Smileys/superman.gif)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nafaustu on December 12, 2012, 04:06:19 PM
"We put ourselves in "the attitude of heroes"--and we all became a little more heroic." - VV

If I had a twitter account, i'd tweet that.   That is something I only recall thinking four times in the past year, so you're probably on to something.

Heck, that's the kind of thing you'd want to see as a tagline on a book jacket to pull someone in.  xD
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Globetrotter on December 13, 2012, 12:06:16 AM
Tweeting that quote now!

I need to.

I got my first video done and now the deprivation hit me in all it's grave force.

Need to find something to do for tomorrow, or... all there is, is work and my two devils  :'(

Or ...amybe I should go and do what I intended to do after COH: Read!

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 13, 2012, 12:25:29 AM
I tweeted it too. :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Aura Controller on December 15, 2012, 09:01:07 AM
I really just sit down and let myself actually realize CoX is really gone.

No more jumping on random teams and doing random radio missions for hours on end and getting to know the members of your team, even if your going to forget them 10 mins later. One thing for me that every other MMO is missing is the ability to not have to follow some generic story and just jump into some random mission and have fun with complete strangers, and by the time the team breaks up you feel like you really get to know them. I have as of yet not found that experience anywhere else.

The worst part of it is, when something was wrong I could lose myself in CoX like many people have already said. But right now, I need to lose myself to forget about CoX but I can't go to CoX to forget about CoX now can I? All that leaves is letting myself get lost in hating the ones who took it away, just let the anger fester... I cannot and will not ever forget about it. Because every time I feel the need to just forget about everything I'm going to think about CoX and then think about how much I hate... them...

Anyway felt like I needed to let that all out, it helped a little knowing that all those strangers can still hear me even if they can't see my chars.

Take care everyone.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on December 15, 2012, 09:44:00 AM
I really just sit down and let myself actually realize CoX is really gone.

No more jumping on random teams and doing random radio missions for hours on end and getting to know the members of your team, even if your going to forget them 10 mins later. One thing for me that every other MMO is missing is the ability to not have to follow some generic story and just jump into some random mission and have fun with complete strangers, and by the time the team breaks up you feel like you really get to know them. I have as of yet not found that experience anywhere else.

The worst part of it is, when something was wrong I could lose myself in CoX like many people have already said. But right now, I need to lose myself to forget about CoX but I can't go to CoX to forget about CoX now can I? All that leaves is letting myself get lost in hating the ones who took it away, just let the anger fester... I cannot and will not ever forget about it. Because every time I feel the need to just forget about everything I'm going to think about CoX and then think about how much I hate... them...

Anyway felt like I needed to let that all out, it helped a little knowing that all those strangers can still hear me even if they can't see my chars.

Take care everyone.

Yeah the irony of what you identify as the worst part is its truth: I can't play CoX to get over losing CoX.  No doubt in a few hours I'll think of some of other favorite aspect of City of Heroes but one of the things I always liked best and which is not norm in the few other MMO's I've tried is the way people would buff one another in passing, on the street, at the train stations, at the Auction House, in Ouroboros, sometimes saying Thanks, but often not--after all these were superheroes dashing to a mission.  Laugh with me, if you will, at my Noobish self on my earliest toon, a dark defender vampire, in Wents, suddenly bursting into flame when hit with pre-custom colorization i.e. original Thermal Radiation buffs.  I was erroneously convinced my character had caught on fire, and that I'd perhaps exceeded some time limit at the Auction House.  I promptly logged and phoned my friend who had a good laugh, told to me what had happened and to click one of the little UI arrows so I could see all the buffs and debuffs on my character.  (I hope this recollection is as amusing for you as it is for me; sorry for the digression.)   

Sure, many of the buffs didn't last long, fading before or not long after one zoned into a mission.  Maybe some did it, hoping to get buffed in return, but most did it (imo) simply because in-game they did have the power to do something nice and because potentially even that little something might make a positive difference, and in some instances, it did.

I process my emotions at different levels and at different speeds.  I'm still angy with NCSoft.  Why wouldn't I be?  They hurt me and not only didn't prevent the injury, inflicted it.  Beyond disappointed, I felt contempt for their inept handling of their valued clients, us.  I didn't encounter Rage until I witnessed the emtional impact this had on my sgmates and friends, and every server community.  I discovered not only rage but a really dark ugly anger wilth exasperation over my inability to stop it as an extra layer of yuck.   I had to let myself go thru the Sad part, really very much like attending a funeral.  Maybe it's not that way for you at all.  I know in myself Sorrow can sometimes convert into Anger, and I recall being angry at the first funeral service I attended, as well as shocked, because it all seemed so avoidable.

That they thought so little of us by first failing to anticipate and plan for how their CoH customer would feel about this, and sternly rebuffed our outcry and potests to Save CoH, could be taken that the CEO and execs in on this decision and its implementation are exactly the selfish persons one might imagine; that it's all about them, with the only attention to "customer care" devoted to legal minimums in refunds etc. and not nearly enough to customer satisfaction and little to no understanding or genuine human caring for MMO communities.   There were and still are a number of ways NCSoft could rectify this and at least partially redeem themselves, though I think they lack the enlightened self-interest to see it.

There is absolutely no reason not to feel PO'ed by this and to hate NCSoft.  The only reason I can think of is to not give them the satisfaction - soon they will no longer earn much more than my contempt; merely be that stupid gaming company that made that awful decision - and my other reason is personal.

Me, I've been dealing with sorrow and anger, trying to turn down the volume on those feelings not by squelching but by letting them out (I hope safely.)   I'm hoping to feel a whole lot better soon, but am equally hoping whatever leftover negative feelings I do have get channeled into constructive ways to get CoH rezzed.  I'm hoping that my resolve will prove to be as implacable as NCSoft's "sunset" of City of Heroes because I'd like our City to have another day in the sun.

As you can see I like that quote from Gandhi, but here's another I like:

"In every generation there must be some fool willing to speak the truth as he sees it."  Boris Pasternak.  Thanks for letting me speak my mind.

PS. those execs at NCSoft are idiots.  Billions are spent each year trying to get us to like various products.  (Remember Cola Wars?)  The attachment we "mere customers" have for the specific City of Heroes brand is an advertiser's pancake dream.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 15, 2012, 09:48:51 AM
Yes, absolutely. For me, it's that moment in the RWZ where you're talking to your contact for the next mission, when suddenly Speed Boost! This was before SB became AOE, back when someone had to target me specifically to give it. I remember running off to my mission asap to enjoy that SB as I went through a Dark Watcher mish.

Ah.. good times.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: EventHorizonMan on December 15, 2012, 10:08:17 AM
It's been two weeks since City of Heroes closed, and for those two weeks I've felt like I've lost a friend. I'm just getting over it now, and am treating the fact I can't play CoH any more as the "new normal".

Been on Champions Online since then, trying to recreate the good old days of superheroing but it is not the same. Champs is a good game despite it's detractors but it's not CoH. Nothing ever will. That game was like capturing lightning in a bottle.

I was an EVE Online player on and off for about 3 years, and Retribution is helping me cope by offering me a chance to play something different for a change. However, once I end the game, I see my desktop wall paper of Sonik Siamese, one of my alts, happily bouncing up and down because she went from villainness to heroine after a week-long journey, and the twinge in my heart starts up again.

Perhaps I need more time than I thought.

Event Horizon Man
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Celtic Lass on December 15, 2012, 08:03:21 PM
Although I am still miss loading up my heroes from the Freedom server, and I am still very much connected to this fight to bring back the game I loved... I have decided to take a bit of a break from this topic over the weekend.  The loss of 20 children and 7 adults in Connecticut has kind of left me at a loss.

Yes, in the past, I would have just loaded up CoX on my computer and killed some Freakshow or Carni to pacify my desire to resurrect the gunman and beat him to a bloody pulp... but, I do not have that luxury anymore, sadly.

Continue to love your heroes and your community... but don't forget to hold the ones you love close and let them know how much you love them ♥
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Aura Controller on December 17, 2012, 08:59:28 AM
Was listening to my music and Three Days Grace-Drown came on and it fits CoH like a glove.
It puts a smile on my face every time I listen to it.
Just had to post this.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Zolgar on December 17, 2012, 10:46:56 AM
I've mostly been too busy to notice, to be honest.
Other than times like right now, sitting here doing mindless work with my hands, I'd be lurking in the D.

On the positive side, I'm more productive now. >.>
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on December 18, 2012, 02:30:00 AM
The worst part of it is, when something was wrong I could lose myself in CoX like many people have already said. But right now, I need to lose myself to forget about CoX but I can't go to CoX to forget about CoX now can I? All that leaves is letting myself get lost in hating the ones who took it away, just let the anger fester... I cannot and will not ever forget about it. Because every time I feel the need to just forget about everything I'm going to think about CoX and then think about how much I hate... them...

The weight of it didn't really hit me until yesterday; I suppose that it's just an enhanced ability to avoid facing reality. I'd been playing World of Tanks for some time; it wasn't CoH, but it was enough different that it made for an entertaining break. Now, it's not CoH is right there in my face like a forehead zit on class picture day.

I took up SWTOR after the 30th, and right away the differences were getting rubbed in my nose; the horribly limited amount of character customization -- it feels as if there are only a dozen NPCs in the game, and they run around frantically behind the scenes changing costumes. The game seems intent on jamming the "3 minions = 1 hero" principle down your throat, and it doesn't feel like a level is worth anything -- I have a character on Dromund Kaas with one of the Heroic 2+ missions; I was two levels higher than the mission, and still got flattened by the -2 elite (boss) that was the third wave of the ambush. I'm dubious that a third level will make a significant difference. In CoH, outleveling a mission twice would reduce the difficulty enough to make it pretty much a cakewalk. On the Jedi side, it just feels wrong to be running around cutting down everything with a red target reticle to level a character whose guiding principles are supposed to be peace and balance. And don't get me started on having to pay to take the tram (taxi/speeder).

It looks as though I'm at the 'anhedonia' point in working through the loss of the game; I'd become too accustomed to being able to lose myself in the game -- become something bigger and better than I was for a while, and let the frustrations drain away... and it's hard to see that there's going to be anything to compare to it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Noyjitat on December 18, 2012, 05:11:34 AM
swtor is built with the rules of a traditional mmo. Elites are going to be too dangerous for solo work at low levels. You get to the point where you can do it on some high level stuff but most of the group content really requires a group.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on December 18, 2012, 05:33:22 AM
im in a similar boat to you srmalloy

ive been dabbling playing fallen earth since the game completely shut down, its an ok game, but the character creator is extremely limited, its a gear based game with mount based travel, to fast travel it requires you to pay, the game itself is very slow pace
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on December 18, 2012, 08:00:28 PM
swtor is built with the rules of a traditional mmo. Elites are going to be too dangerous for solo work at low levels. You get to the point where you can do it on some high level stuff but most of the group content really requires a group.

It's not consistent, though; I was coming back from discovering that there was a wall of rock between me and the entrance to the 'recover the Ravager' instance -- the same area where I had been sent to recover a Korran (?) communicator on an earlier mission, and twice accidentally aggro'd a Shadow Spawn elite on my way back out, and didn't have any real problem with either of them. I suppose I should go dig up the mission where you're sent to kill them and take it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Risha on December 19, 2012, 05:35:34 PM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Lucretia MacEvil on December 19, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
Poorly.  I'm handling the loss poorly.

Since I'm not interested in other games, I find myself watching any superhero movie I can get my hands on (even the not-so-good ones). 
Messing with the character creator helps and hurts at the same time; it's part of the City come back, but it's not enough. 

I want my world back.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TheMindfulFool on December 19, 2012, 06:38:10 PM
My wife and I are doing okay with the loss. Honestly, we have gotten a lot of projects done after its close. She's finishing a lot of her writing, and I've been working on my 8-bit game projects. So maybe that's a little bit of silver lining.

That being said, there are some nights where we just lay in bed and one of us will bring up something in the game. And we'll end up talking about it and laughing about it, which then turns to her getting this sad look on her face. I can't say I blame her - my face probably gets the same look.

CoH was the first game she ever tried besides Star Wars Galaxies for a few weeks. It was the first game that allowed her to really get into the swing of things. We're both avid roleplayers, and CoH never stopped amazing us with its potential for meaningful storytelling. Not only that, it was a rare breed that allowed everyone to play the stories they wanted without stepping on each other's toes.

I still remember when my wife and I decided it was time to move on with some friends from our old supergroup. And the six of us didn't know what to do or where to go. I remember how energetic my wife was when she said "Let's make our own group". It was a scary thing to try for two introverts like us, but the more our group flourished into a solid seventeen member storytelling machine, the more amazed we became with our ability to lead something.

I don't know what I'm really saying, I guess. I guess I just like talking about the old times in CoH. I miss it. I miss having a game to play with her. Now that CoH is gone, we've been unable to game with each other. We didn't like Champions, and with only one computer being able to handle The Secret World, it sucks that we don't have that activity together.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 20, 2012, 01:23:59 AM
Still badly.  Still for the same reason.  Two buses full of my best friends (my characters and my RL friends) were wantonly driven over a cliff by NCSoft.  The one thing I could rely on to release stress is gone (trying to play in other games is more stressful rather than releasing stress.)

Going through a lot of Kleenex.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 20, 2012, 03:24:34 AM
"The Omega slot was going to be out of control. We knew it would be coming right before the end of the game, when everything was winding down and setting up for... well I can't say, NDA's and all. ...anyway, Omega was going to be no holds barred, crazy stuff. Things people begged for since release that we never did because we couldn't figure out how to make them "Heroic" without being "Broken". We had a big list, but the only two I concretely remember being worked out were things like Giant Growth for outdoor GM fighting stuff, and the other one was Multiplication, where the final rank would be making like, four NPC copies of your character at full power."

Read this and felt the loss all over again.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on December 20, 2012, 04:13:58 AM
We had a big list, but the only two I concretely remember being worked out were things like Giant Growth for outdoor GM fighting stuff, and the other one was Multiplication, where the final rank would be making like, four NPC copies of your character at full power."

*jawdrop* :o

I don't remember that from the articles I've seen yet, where's that from?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 20, 2012, 04:21:59 AM
It's either from twitch, a podcast, or something else. It's transcribed from audio though.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Torroes.Prime on December 20, 2012, 04:22:29 AM
I'm not going to say it's gone, because I won't let it die. I am continuing the CoH Story in Fan-comic form (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7277.0.html) with other interested Fans of the game. It won't be the game I know and I'm not going to try and claim other wise. But the CoH community id dedicated. We're not leaving and I can't allow CoH to leave either. I will do everything in my power to keep it alive.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on December 20, 2012, 01:07:01 PM
It feels like my CoH friends and all my characters are somewhere halfway around the world from me...not gone, but unreachable. I want them back. Sort of the same feeling as when the Griswalds reached Wally World and found it locked down....only worse.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on December 20, 2012, 01:16:35 PM
Omega was going to be no holds barred, crazy stuff. Things people begged for since release that we never did because we couldn't figure out how to make them "Heroic" without being "Broken". We had a big list, but the only two I concretely remember being worked out were things like Giant Growth for outdoor GM fighting stuff, and the other one was Multiplication, where the final rank would be making like, four NPC copies of your character at full power.
I would've killed for Giant Growth as an Omega-slot.  Just for the sheer novelty of being able to look Jack-in-Irons in the eyes and then punch his lights out.  Or maybe trade fisticuffs with Babbage or Jurassik.

If they handled Giant Growth in CoH like Cryptic did with the piloting the Mega-Destroid in Champions Online (where you're armed with stomps, ground-punches, and giant-sized versions of normal player powers), I would be overjoyed.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on December 21, 2012, 06:35:36 AM
I'm still doing badly. I have difficulty watching any CoH videos without crying, and last night I had a dream where I saw on Twitter that Posi announced that CoH would return on 1/13/13. When I woke up, I actually thought it was something that was true, so I turned on my computer. By the time my computer booted I remembered it was just a dream.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: dwturducken on December 21, 2012, 06:39:34 AM
Hate to say it, but I'm trying to throw some CoH-style creativity into CO. First on the list: The Spanish Imposition. His background? "Nobody expects the Spanish Imposition!" The hook? It's in Spanish!  :)

Also, my Quick Start bar still has the NCSoft Launcher.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on December 21, 2012, 07:12:35 AM
I'm still doing badly. I have difficulty watching any CoH videos without crying, and last night I had a dream where I saw on Twitter that Posi announced that CoH would return on 1/13/13. When I woke up, I actually thought it was something that was true, so I turned on my computer. By the time my computer booted I remembered it was just a dream.

This would indeed be quite awesome.  Keep hope alive.  :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on December 21, 2012, 06:30:11 PM
I'm still doing badly. I have difficulty watching any CoH videos without crying, ...

I know what you mean; I lost it again today watching the videos in the article on the Verge (article here (http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/20/3776210/electric-funeral-death-of-mmo) if you haven't seen it yet).
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: SARobb on December 21, 2012, 06:42:59 PM
Not as well as I thought...

Since the shutdown, I have good days and bad.  On the bad days nothing seems to help, so I figured I'd try something different, writing about CoX and why I miss it so. 

For starters, I never pegged myself as a guy who could possibly get so attached to a 'game'.  Well, until now I never really realized just how much of it was the 'game' and just how much of it was the family and community.  Funny how it takes losing something for you to realize just how important it is to you. So, fwiw, here is a brief history of how I came to be a resident of CoX and ultimately how I am where I am today.

In 2007 I was in the middle of a nasty divorce, one that left me in a single bedroom apartment with a phone and internet connection for company.  On weekends, my kids would come over and we'd spend time together, weekends were fun, and we played a lot.  When they went to bed, I'd log onto work and write code until I got tired... basically just loosing myself in that work till the wee hours of the morning.  One night, while not really feeling like working I got to browsing around on the internet and ultimately ended up at EvE Onlines' website.  In the interest of brevity, I downloaded and started playing it as it gave me something to do other than work constantly.

Fast forward a couple of years, and I started to get tired of ganking/being ganked so I found myself back to either watching Netflix or working vs. signing onto EvE. I missed the social aspect of it the most, chatting with people my age, the teamwork, etc.  So, one night after work in January of 2009, I stopped by Gamestop to see what I could see, and browsing the bargain bin I found, City of Heroes: Good vs. Evil edition for 9 bucks, so I snatched it up and over my meal of ramen, installed, patched and created my account.

I decided that I'd try a Dominator to start with. I had never been a frequenter of forums or even bothered to research the different classes outside of what you could read of their descriptions in-game back then.  She ended up being a Fire/Fire domi (talk about a hard road to start on) that took to the streets of Mercy Island in Guardian with a vengeance. I played solo at first, not knowing that the Hero side of things was more populous and then eventually made my second toon.  This one was a Rad/Rad defender, who was pretty fun to play despite the fact I hadn't learned to really leverage my powers and their side effects yet.  I was enjoying CoX solo, but it was hard going given my selections of starting toons.  I vividly remember my first teaming; it was for a mayhem mission.  There were 5 of us and I had just gotten the 'hover' power, not knowing any better I hung back and blasted from the sky as we mowed through the cops.

I played CoX on and off for a year as I got settled into my new life having just gotten remarried.  Once things settled into a good routine, my wife sat down and started to play with me, as did my older kids.  That was shortly after I had transferred from Guardian to Virtue, which turned out to be the clincher for me, as time rolled on I took over a very active SG and met some awesome people and friends. About mid 2012 I heard about GW2 and pre-ordered it because it looked awesome and tbh, I was getting a bit burned out on being in charge.

"Besides, CoH will be there for me to hop onto when I'm bored with killing dragons"

Yeah...

That was the thought anyway, because it always had been for the past few years.

After NCSoft announced the shutdown, I admit, I felt pretty guilty. Now, I know that the actions they took were not my fault directly but, I couldn't help feeling that way.  I was going to (and had for the beta) take a break from my home to try something new and now my home was going to be yanked away.  It was hard to log on anywhere.  So, now my home is gone, and while Tyria is pretty... I just can't get into it as I did CoH... EvE, nah, I'd rather help people now than shoot their faces off... And ya, I beta'd both TSW and CO and even Conan... again, none of them are home... and since the shutdown I've gone to each.

For now, I've settled on CO... I've settled for not re-making any of my CoH toons, not because I don't miss them, I do.  I miss my KM/Fire Scrapper; I miss her mother the Fire/Kin Troller that could make most scrappers jealous of the damage she put out.  I miss my Mind/Psy/Mind Dominator that could walk into anything and come out unscathed.  I miss them because they were more than that, they were Leah and Tina Redmond, they were Jennifer Hu, Daughter Dawn and Mindwing. They weren't perfect, but I really put all of my creative juices to work and made tons of pages of back story for them.  I want to remember them for the fun I had with them, and leave them rest until I can walk with them again in the streets they (and I) call home. I won't remake them simply because if I never get to play with them again (I pray I really do that CoH will come back) I want to remember them the way they were.

Thanks for reading, hopefully I didn't bore anyone to death.  I just needed to vent it somewhere, to put it out there amongst my peers and not feel 'judged' for being so attached.

Thanks.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Bentley Berkeley on December 21, 2012, 07:26:33 PM
When the news first came to us, I felt as if a low blow had been dealt to me without warning. The wind knocked right out of me. My heart ached as if an old friend told me they had just been given the news of terminal cancer with an end date attached. It felt like Capt. Mal of Serenity in the beginning of the pilot episode when he was told the war was over and they had lost, despite the costs he and his men had paid.

For nearly the entire life of CoH I had flown over the streets of Paragon as Bentley Berkeley of Virtue. I had other characters equally important to me as aspects of my self that I embraced to help others in the game find ever greater immersion. Demetrios Vasilikos of Crey Global Enterprises was another. Both lead countless task forces over the years, both full pugs, and those filled with allies and friends I had made and put on my contact lists to call upon and let them know what was up and see if they wanted to join.

During the final months, even on the last day, when I logged on I received tells from people Id not run into in game in years who thanked me for all the great times both RPing and battling through hoards of villains to reach a TFs end quickly and cleanly with no fuss or muss. This kind of thing really touched my heart and is something I have never encountered in other MMO during breaks from CoH over the years.

No matter what little new tricks another MMO might of had, I always found myself coming back to Paragon for social atmosphere, the company of like minded souls, and the chance to feel like more then just a cog in the wheel of a guild run raid.

When I told these frequent allies that I only lead groups or even really teamed much on CoH and all other MMO are largely solo play affairs for me they often seemed truly surprised that someone who seemed to thrive on leading TFs would not do something similar in other games.

Truth was that in other games I just never felt the same quiet confidence I did with my blaster or scrapper. These characters for me had clicked so well even when I knew I was in over my head occasionally I never had a doubt I would find a way to win. I had the true Kirk mentality of the no such thing as a no win scenerio within me. On other MMO something about them, even on my best characters, makes me want to deal with the hassle of leading and sheparding others through content that is usually very static and quickly stale.

I could lead several Hess TFs a day and never grow tired of that story line and end battle, but stick me a group of twelve off to go fight a dragon and soon I start to wonder why I am even trying to kill an ancient beast who is probably more use to the world even being evil, then my so called heroic adventurer.

For a while I thought I was alone in how COH ending impacted me, but coming here I see I am far from alone, that the virtual world for us at least did end this year, that in a way if only on some technical sense, the prophecy and doom sayers where right. Champions online is no option, nor the legion of sword and sorcery MMO. Guild Wars 2 a game I once had looked forward to adding to my collection of MMO to play off and on now becomes the symbol for all I find I now loathe in the industry.

The last day, I was there running Demetrios Vasilikos and lead a hess tf and had the honor of giving a final first time treat to several fellow players, they really seemed to love that end battle in the volcano lair as much as I did every time I ran it. I encouraged them and we all left the way we came rather then the short cut exit just to feel like we had to really escape the bomb. Moments like that I will never again experience and that is a true loss to me.

I dont know what I can do, but a part of me feels its time to travel, to as a young bruce wayne once did go abroad and feel the highs and lows of life first hand. Maybe find chances to help others and be more then a sad miserable sob who has lost something that cant be replaced. My heart is heavy and my mind flooded with too much to really process. The one thing I feel for certain an era in MMO has passed, and so to has something special for a great many people like myself.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Graphite on December 21, 2012, 08:13:25 PM
Two weeks "late" and haven't even started my paper.  I blame Christmas.  Soon I have to be off to a Yule Party and need to pretend, and hopefully remember, how to smile.

  :-\
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: masterkam on December 21, 2012, 08:29:26 PM
I got kinda lucky in a way. JUST before the announcement, the game wasn't working with my new video card. Kept getting random crashes ~15 minutes into the game. I was working with NCSoft on how to resolve it over a couple weeks. Once the bad news came, I figured it wasn't worth buying yet another card for a game that was about to shut down. I was holding out for good news :|

I felt like my only other options were Champions and DCUO. From what I had seen, CoH and CO players seem to HIGHLY dislike each other, but both sides seemed to agree DCUO was definitely the worst of the 3. So I skipped that mess and went to CO. It's definitely not the same as CoH and that fact bugs me a lot. Not nearly as much content either. But I'm easy to please. As long as there's a bad ass character creator I'm set. Roaming the game and seeing all the insanely unique toons reminds me of CoH and that helps ease it all a bit for me. The community is pushing the devs for tools so that we can make the game a bit better.

I don't have a lot of faith in Plan Z, as much as I want it to work. Especially since there's already a split! It's an insane amount of work to just get 1 off the ground. So that kinda makes it hard to look forward to a successor. I have a feeling that there'll be a next-gen superhero mmo again in the future. But we'll never have another CoH. Just has to be one of those things we remember fondly :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Risha on December 21, 2012, 09:40:43 PM
Not coping well.  Haunting these forums.  Posting screenshots on pinterest...wondering if I have more shots SOMEWHERE before desktop and laptop died in 2010.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: eabrace on December 22, 2012, 12:14:46 AM
You know, I can't say that I'm handling it all that badly, but I tend to be a bit of a slow burner and I am noticing that my annoyance with little details in other games that CoH got right (at least eventually if not initially) that these other games didn't is gradually increasing day by day.  I've actually had to close a game and just walk away to cool off for a while out of frustration in the last week.  I haven't had to do that in years.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 22, 2012, 02:39:28 AM
Not coping well.  Haunting these forums.  Posting screenshots on pinterest...wondering if I have more shots SOMEWHERE before desktop and laptop died in 2010.

Check over on the Titan Community side, Risha.  We have a working costume creator and the ability to place those toons in the setting of your choice for screenies.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: DashaBlade on December 22, 2012, 01:06:59 PM
So, my internet connection went down at the beginning of last month, and every day I woke up thinking, "This is another day I can't play CoH." I really, really wanted to play every day until the end. Long story short, we finally got a new modem from my ISP last weekend, a little too late to be doing anything.

What was I doing during that time, and since? Well, I dusted off my old Heroes Unlimited books, and my son and I recreated a whole bunch of our CoH toons as Palladium-style superheroes. Let me tell ya, coming up with stats for Skulls in a tabletop RPG isn't as easy as it seems, and we had to deviate from the CoH stuff quite a bit. We did, however, kill skuls.

And last week, I also dusted off my Shadowrun books, so that my son could play a decker who works for *cough* an evil corporation and who grabbed a bunch of their data to sell to his fixer. He's currently got a list of people on a data chip, none of whom seem to have any connection to one another, and he's trying to figure out what connects them. (Hint: It has something to do with the data he grabbed earlier this week, but he hasn't gotten to making that connection yet)

For all the heartache, I have to say that CoH closing has inspired some really, really devious GMing ideas.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Celtic Lass on January 10, 2013, 06:24:00 AM
I know no one has posted here in over a week or so... but I just wanted to say that I really miss my heroes.  I mean, yeah, I can visit them in the DEMOlition program... but I really miss actually PLAYING them.  Super jumping or flying through Paragon, beating on the Freakshow, Carni or Malta.  Being able to explore the world of City of Heroes.  I really miss my Scrapper Mischki and my Beast Master - Mastermind Tessa Tempo <sigh>.  Sorry to whine.  Its just not getting any easier.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on January 10, 2013, 07:34:14 AM
It's not whining. This is what the thread is for. And I'm right there with you.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nilbog on January 10, 2013, 07:44:19 AM
I was very intrigued by CoH when they showcased it at the San Diego comic con before launch. It appeared to have a lot of room for creation and the ability to personilize. Over the years the game winded up shattering my hopes and expectations.

I played for 6 years until my account was stolen by someone I entrusted thee information of the master account.

Discouraged by the betrayel and financial hardship I walked away from  the game

I recently found out about the shut down and it felt like a relative died

Now I want to take that Ferrari for one more spin

That 50 bs/sr scrapper with the low cowl and oversized Rikti blade

To descend on a crowd with an energy torrent and then brutulize a line of 3 with a headsplitter


The Ferrari with all the badges painstakingly earned
Really sad also I missed last couple of issues

If it returns via Disney or whom ever I will play again and no account sharing next time!

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on January 10, 2013, 11:13:21 AM
I miss the creativity. I would often re-roll characters at a whim if I came up with a better idea or back story.

I would make characters whose name alone told a story.

Carillion - Sonic/Ice blaster who I used to Tank TFs :)
Deathmouse - Water/Dark Miasma corruptor
Spike the Guppy - just for fun
Moo Jooz - my Milk/Kin def

I could switch from serious to absurd in a few seconds as the team needed and as I needed. I believe the game can be saved but it needs to happen fairly soon in my opinion like 6 months or so. Valve may be another team to approach or even the folks at Good Old Games.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: HEATSTROKE on January 10, 2013, 01:09:56 PM
im just angry..
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on January 10, 2013, 01:58:32 PM
You know with the Demolition setup and the character creation program - how far of a step would it be to build a simple one vs one single player game?

It seems many of the things needed are there to build a simple arena.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: wooh on January 10, 2013, 02:44:14 PM
After losing 2 beloved games before CoH I have built an immunity to the ache.

So I thought, I was wrong.   I don't miss places and maps like my previous games, more the toons that I allowed fragments of my personality to shine through.
   My son and I both took for granted that CoH would always be there, we missed only a month or two in subscriptions over the entire games life because of how certain we were that it would be there for a long time to come.

My son misses maps, locations, to his subconscious they are actual places to visit and though he yearns to stand in AP or the Rogue Isles, his conscious mind knows it can't happen. 
 His subconscious however is harder to convince.

I personally miss my mad healer, the way I had her speced until my PvP son got his hands on her, also her wonderful outfits and how great of a healer she was.   
Playing TSW now and although I love the quests and challenges, I miss jumping around like crazy, shooting last minute save em all heals between two split groups and succeeding.

I loved how easy it was for her to help people stay solid, something I apply in real life though success rates vary greatly.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sugoi on January 10, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
SARobb,

You are far from the only one with an attachment (or multiple attachments) to the game.
Your statement brought an old song to mind, which I just had to adjust to fit the occasion.

This filk's for all of us!  Feel free to pass it on!

With apologies to Joni Mitchell's classic 70's song of loss, Big Yellow Taxi.

----------

Big Sunset Window by Sugoi-chan


They closed Paragon
And put up a farewell page
With a Thank You note, a FAQ Link
And a picture of Statesman.

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They closed Paragon
And put up a farewell page

They took all the Heroes
Put 'em in a hero museum
And they ignored the people
Who wanted to fly and to be 'em

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They closed Paragon
And put up a farewell page

Hey CEO man,
Put away that agenda
Give me bugs in my game
But leave me my Heroes and Villains
Please!

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They closed Paragon
And put up a farewell page

Late last year
I saw the screen shut down
And a big error notice
Took away my playground

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They closed Paragon
And put up a farewell page

They closed Paragon
And put up a farewell page
 :'(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kheprera on January 11, 2013, 12:44:32 AM
I haven't posted in a while.

My depression is going full bore now. Finances have gotten tight, my desktop is dying, and my duties at work have doubled.

I can't keep up with anything, and my stress levels are through the roof.  The holidays were a trial to get through, and I have no outlet.

I got a cheap, off market tablet for Christmas and I've been retreating into books.  Just reread Shibumi by Trevanian again and looking at rereading Sherlock Holmes next.

I miss being able to lose myself in base building.  It was my stress relief, where I could immerse myself in stacking and creating floor patterns with desks.

I would gladly trade losing my base, starting my characters from scratch, and rebuilding if I could just have CoH back.


I tried CO, but it's not the same. And my system keeps crashing anyway.

I'm not handling the loss well.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on January 11, 2013, 03:20:24 AM
Seeing all the videos can still make me cry because I miss it so badly. Lately, I have started feeling really angry. I think it may be from a false sense of entitlement that this was MY game, MY characters and how dare someone take it from me. Of course, this doesn't make sense.....but sometimes the brain and heart don't always match up. I doubt I will ever invest such strong feelings into any game again. I still want my City back. I want to create, immerse myself, team with friends, solo, and reconnect with the little characters that were fragments of myself.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nilbog on January 11, 2013, 06:54:52 PM
I don't think it is a false sense of entitlement. The way the game is set up with veteran rewards and how they charged for costume kits and how much it cost for time, i feel the price was paid to be justified in entitlement. Shutting down cox feels like a breach of contract. All the years we spent, invested and pouring our creative hearts into the game. It was our game, we were betrayed and how you feel is completly justified.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on January 12, 2013, 12:29:12 PM
I haven't posted in a while.

My depression is going full bore now. Finances have gotten tight, my desktop is dying, and my duties at work have doubled.

I can't keep up with anything, and my stress levels are through the roof.  The holidays were a trial to get through, and I have no outlet.

I got a cheap, off market tablet for Christmas and I've been retreating into books.  Just reread Shibumi by Trevanian again and looking at rereading Sherlock Holmes next.

I miss being able to lose myself in base building.  It was my stress relief, where I could immerse myself in stacking and creating floor patterns with desks.

I would gladly trade losing my base, starting my characters from scratch, and rebuilding if I could just have CoH back.


I tried CO, but it's not the same. And my system keeps crashing anyway.

I'm not handling the loss well.

I don't know how well this will help, but this is the FREE Podcast of our CoH-inspired series from Baen Books, The Secret World Chronicles

http://secretworldchronicle.com/podcast/ (http://secretworldchronicle.com/podcast/)  Lots of hours of listening there.

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: McNum on January 13, 2013, 10:16:50 PM
All things considered, I've been taking it okay. Had a lot of other things to worry about, and I've taken up drawing, even got a deviantArt account set up to publish my doodling. I'm not great at it yet, but I'm improving steadily.

All in all, I thought I was pretty much over it with being sad about CoH. But last night, I learned that I'm not. At least my subconscious misses the game still. I had a dream. I was flying. Except it wasn't me flying, it was me as one of my heroes. Swooping up and down, playfully weaving in and out between buildings until finally landing near some doors. Another hero exits the door and the thought "Oh, look another player, how nice. Wait, I thought City of Heroes was shut down?" enters the dream. No dream can withstand logic of that kind... so I woke up. It was a good dream with a downer ending. Which kind of feels like an apt metaphor for City of Heroes, come to think of it.

I miss flying. I could log on and just fly around for hours. Land on rooftops, run off, hit fly on the way down and pull up before reaching the ground. Weaving between lightposts next to the road. flying side-by-side with the train on the tram. Accidentally popping through a hole in the geometry somewhere and having another /bug to report. I found some good ones, too. Like getting stuck inside the Architect beam machine up top. When the game hit live, there was a big collision volume over it. That was partially my doing, there. I got stuck good.

But yeah, I miss flying. If the wizards here manage to make a way for me to fly again, even if it's by myself, I'd gladly take it. Flying was my zen moment, so to speak. Not a care in the world, just a leaf on the wind.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sugoi on January 14, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Flying is the main reason I play Champions Online from time to time, just to float around investigating new areas, and accepting an occasional mission to beat on baddies.  I just can't stand running thru rat mazes, even if I do get to keep the tails.   :D

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on January 14, 2013, 03:06:24 AM
I was looking through old pictures and in one of them I could see CoH on in the background. Got a little teary.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: antarcticaa on January 14, 2013, 03:24:23 AM
I haven't posted in a while.

My depression is going full bore now. Finances have gotten tight, my desktop is dying, and my duties at work have doubled.

I can't keep up with anything, and my stress levels are through the roof.  The holidays were a trial to get through, and I have no outlet.

I got a cheap, off market tablet for Christmas and I've been retreating into books.  Just reread Shibumi by Trevanian again and looking at rereading Sherlock Holmes next.

I miss being able to lose myself in base building.  It was my stress relief, where I could immerse myself in stacking and creating floor patterns with desks.

I would gladly trade losing my base, starting my characters from scratch, and rebuilding if I could just have CoH back.


I tried CO, but it's not the same. And my system keeps crashing anyway.

I'm not handling the loss well.

Hugs and more hugs.  I do understand your feelings.  I'm fighting depression, a school district in terrible array, fiscal problems, and oh yeah, the upstairs flooded so that half the house is unusable as of Friday, the ceiling caved in the garage from the flooding, etc etc.  Yet still this community supports one another.  Reading is a great relief (thanks VV, Conan Doyle, etc etc) and last night I found myself just smiling while I mentally reviewed the old TFs and the simple joy of flying around CoH.  Yeah, it doesn't take away our sorrow at the game we lost but we had it and I am so grateful we did.

Please know we care and share your pain, we really do.  Keep us appraised on how it's going.  We may not be able to solve one another's cares but it does help to know we are concerned and there are still people fighting for our game.  With or without CoH, we're still heroes.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 14, 2013, 03:48:05 AM
Seeing all the videos can still make me cry because I miss it so badly. Lately, I have started feeling really angry. I think it may be from a false sense of entitlement that this was MY game, MY characters and how dare someone take it from me. Of course, this doesn't make sense.....but sometimes the brain and heart don't always match up. I doubt I will ever invest such strong feelings into any game again. I still want my City back. I want to create, immerse myself, team with friends, solo, and reconnect with the little characters that were fragments of myself.

Ditto!  I have gotten thru Sept's "Last ITF Ever" youtube vid a few times without crying, but that was mostly to prove something to myself.  I think the role of anger in the grieving process makes sense; it snaps one out of sorrow and depression into gettin' angry and wanting to do something!  And, yeah, head and heart don't always align.  I know that losing CoH is part of why I haven't enjoyed any of the MMO's I've dabbled with.  Even apart from it "feeling wrong"--not in a moral sense, but like the way it feels if one goes from driving a sports car to driving a U-Haul truck--I know that I just don't want to open myself up again just yet to feeling such disappointment and pain again! It's too soon (for me personally, and no prob and Congrats to those who can game again).  Happily I don't believe I obsess on CoH, but even as I remember almost daily a dear friend whose funeral was 2 years ago, rarely do I not think about CoH at least once daily.

Back to the anger piece, bwahaha!  This may have been offered before.  I don't know why it popped up in my mind when reading and posting to an SG forum on guildportal (yay! the sgmates are still there! and 2-4 us lurk here)  My "new" if it's new name for NCSoft:

NCSchmucks    Hope someone can get a laugh or even some mileage out of it, if it's not too offensive.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on January 14, 2013, 06:15:23 AM
I work up this morning [Sunday] at about 4:30 am. I lay there in the dark, thinking about CoX. I thought of my main, who i will probably never see again and how he was almost like a real friend to me, someone I cared about - who didnt actually exist. He was powerful, and I will never be powerful in any meaningful sense. To love him is to really love myself, for I created him. And I dont love myself much at all, so even that little bit was important.

Obviously I had been dreaming about the game, altho I didnt remember the dream. I lay there and thought about getting off the tram in Talos and flying toward the PI ferry; about passing over the Magic store, the zone music that always played, about the steep ravine down to the docks, and the Tsoo and Freaks who haunted it. Flying over the ocean, and seeing the war walls in the distance.

And I will never do those things again, most likely.

I know it is wrong of me, and perhaps indicative of a psychological failing in me, but I lay there and felt actual hate toward whoever made the decision to throw not just me, but all of us out of our safe little Eden, such an important part of my life and all of our lives. So many of us have lost so much, while theyre lounging in an office somewhere manipulating their stocks or whatever crap thing it is they are doing today. And how when it suits thier purpose, they will do the same thing all over again to another set of loyal players.

I am angry. I want revenge. I dont think they have one freaking clue what they did to us. And I want them to feel the same pain. The same loss.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nilbog on January 14, 2013, 08:16:52 PM
Some of my rooms were 8 years old and younger. In other words NCsoft took the lives of 45 million 8 year holds and younger. Fragments of ourselves created by the inner child. Anger is justified.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on January 15, 2013, 11:43:10 AM
I love you guys...no one else could ever understand these feelings of loss and anger over 'just a game' as most people call it. I don't think there will ever be a replacement for what's been lost, but I still hope and pray for something as close as possible. I can't lose hope.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Arctic Pulse on January 16, 2013, 07:27:46 PM
I miss my friends and my SG
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on January 16, 2013, 08:41:55 PM
At first, I missed CoH, and couldn't play anything.

Then, I looked for something to fill the void.  I tried CO, and that was kinda okay for a while until I realized just how gimped non-freeform characters are.  I mean, I have a glacier AT at the level cap, but I still tank like garbage on literally everything.

Now I'm at the point where remembering CoH brings back the pain of its loss.  I stayed away from Titan Network for a little while and gave up on CO entirely, 'cuz I just couldn't stand to be reminded of CoH.

Now I'm over it just enough that I can come back here.  I've started playing Dungeon Fighter Online with a couple non-CoH friends.  I've also picked back up a few games that I put on hold during CoH's closure, like Minecraft.

I guess I'm handling things okay.  Might've done better though.

But Vakhlav's been crying bloody tears lately as he rips apart foes - it's not a good idea to sadden a berserker who weaponizes his own blood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iWa0jWaleM) (not my berserker, but someone in the same class.  God, playing a game with character classes - is this what I've fallen to?)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on January 17, 2013, 01:36:57 AM
As the players are now finding, to their bitter disappointment, City of Heroes is absolutely unique among MMORPGs. The wide variety of powersets among the archetypes, rich and deep story-lines and the constant updates of content meant that there were people who had played for the entirety of its life, and still had not tried everything. The User Interface was easy and intuitive. The graphics engine could perform at several levels, so that those with older video cards were not left out and those with the latest and greatest could gape with wonder at ever-improving graphics modes. But most of all players are missing the fact that this was never a game. This was a social interface wrapped in a game, as if the very best parts of the Sims, Second Life, Facebook and WoW, plus TV shows by your favorite people had been neatly gathered up and presented to them with a bow on top.

Maybe we ought to start reminding people who call us whiners and say we should get over it about that.  How would they feel if someone destroyed every episode of their favorite TV show (including their personal copies) or yanked Facebook out from under them?  I don't use Facebook, should I call them whiners?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: nataliaofvirtues on January 17, 2013, 01:42:47 PM
I have to say, I am not nearly over the loss of City! I read the forums and cry, I watch the youtube videos and cry, I log onto my computer and cry (because I have chosen to leave the launcher on my desktop). I feel for everyone of my fellow heroes/villains that is suffering the loss. I know we have all beat this subject to death, but still, NcSoft doesn't deserve to be in business. They will never get another dime of my money for any game they have or may have. Nor will the company that owns them. I will boycott them till hell freezes over. 
It is comforting somewhat to know that I am by far not the only one having major separation issues. All we can do now is just hope and support one another. I miss you all!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on January 17, 2013, 05:29:37 PM
I'm already bored with Champions Online. I'm still technically subscribed, but I've logged into the game a grand total of once over the last two weeks.  My pseudo-Brute is level 30 and (on paper) has decent resistances and damage bonuses, but still feels fragile and weak, incapable of standing up to a large group or dealing with hard targets quickly. My pseudo-Mastermind is about 30, too, but lags my computer so much that he's no fun to play (even though he should be a blast - and was, until I tried to get six pets, like a Mastermind should have, instead of just four).

But the worst part is the altitis.  It's... not there. In CoH, I could create a new character that played entirely differenly from the one I was just playing.  My Brutes didn't play like my Dominators or Masterminds.  My Brutes barely even played like each other, so it was fun to start over with a new powerset combination.  But every single powerset feels the same in CO, and I can't get excited about creating a new character.

The "oooh, I wonder what this new character will be like" excitement is not there in CO, because I know what the next character will be like.  It'll be exactly like the other half-dozen characters I made, got to about level 15, and abandoned, only with different colors shooting out of his hands.

So when you combined not really caring about new character combinations with having no real goals for my characters (unlike CoH, where I was always trying to get them something new to play with) when I can play them at all.... it's falling by the wayside.  CoH kept me enthralled for two years and counting, but CO could barely hold my attention for two months.

I want CoH back.  Today.  Right now. :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Servantes on January 17, 2013, 05:59:57 PM
For me I'm handling the loss of CoH far better then the first week of its shutdown, most of the time I can fill the day with other games, often I stare at the wall for a hour or 2 that would normally be spent playing CoH, or just fall asleep, to me it was the most fun part of my teen years spent in that game, I started playing at 16 years old, every day after school I was playing, the game saved me from depression, ironic I'm back to depression but atleast I have a idea how to deal with it.

 I once posted that CoH was like a Brother to me, every aspect of the game from the community to the game itself represented a personality.

But I deleted that post, I thought it too personal or seemed silly, but no I was wrong and it shows how much the game had a impact on me, I met friends from it and it taught me valuable businesses lessons, overall I am still grateful for the game for being, and will never forget it.

Allow me to restate something I typed out while thinking clearly :

 City of Heroes servers may be shutting down, but It will still live on forever in our hearts and minds, stand proud not in its passing but its existence for being, from the first day to the last it has been a pleasure. No matter the words stated by others of its being less then its praise, it is our words that stand the test of time, the negativity that falls at the way side forgotten. And when the sunsets the last day, I will salute its fall for I know City of Heroes will rise again, For We are the City of Heroes, and we shall forever be here.

Every word, every feeling stands true and with time I will be there when CoH returns even if I have to buy the game myself 10 years from now.

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: therain93 on January 18, 2013, 01:23:06 AM
Still badly.  Still for the same reason.  Two buses full of my best friends (my characters and my RL friends) were wantonly driven over a cliff by NCSoft.  The one thing I could rely on to release stress is gone (trying to play in other games is more stressful rather than releasing stress.)

Going through a lot of Kleenex.
It feels like my CoH friends and all my characters are somewhere halfway around the world from me...not gone, but unreachable. I want them back. Sort of the same feeling as when the Griswalds reached Wally World and found it locked down....only worse.
I feel the same way -- it reminds me of Brick:  http://www.hulu.com/embed-html.html?eid=1d9f7zmadgpaufbsgcjksw&et=875&st=833 (http://www.hulu.com/embed-html.html?eid=1d9f7zmadgpaufbsgcjksw&et=875&st=833)
 
 
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LT. Couper on January 19, 2013, 06:08:06 AM
Still haven't let CoH out of my thoughts for one day since I found out about the Sunset (A week after the initial announcement, so I missed the Unity Rally! Ugh!!) Also, it's nearly impossible to forget it when my desktop background is the picture of Statesman's star breaking up.

Life's been fairly dull since then. In school I doodle CoH propoganda, and do a bit of creative writing (No more paper cranes for a while!) In my art classes, I've been pretty much hell bent on making every one of my projects CoH related, and as soon as I get around to it, I'll put pictures up on my DeviantArt page.
I also finally started actually played games again, but only single-player games like Fallout or Skyrim. It's just not the same though... I want to be a super hero again! There are just too many fantasy genre MMOs out there (WoW, GW/GW2, PWI, LotRO, etc.) and not enough Superhero games. I literally can't name five! Besides our Plan Zs, I can only think of CO and DCUO, and they just dont apeal to me like CoH does.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on January 22, 2013, 05:51:09 PM
From Clive Barker's "Cabal," probably my favorite of his works:

"But as he climbed toward the spine of a small hill on the summit of which Midian stood, a second and plainer explanation occurred. There was nobody in Midian. [...] Midian was a ghost town.

Never in his life had he felt such desolation. He stood like a dog returned home to find its masters gone, uncertain what his life now meant or would ever mean again."
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 23, 2013, 01:03:00 AM
I work up this morning [Sunday] at about 4:30 am. I lay there in the dark, thinking about CoX. I thought of my main, who i will probably never see again and how he was almost like a real friend to me, someone I cared about - who didnt actually exist. He was powerful, and I will never be powerful in any meaningful sense. To love him is to really love myself, for I created him. And I dont love myself much at all, so even that little bit was important.

Obviously I had been dreaming about the game, altho I didnt remember the dream. I lay there and thought about getting off the tram in Talos and flying toward the PI ferry; about passing over the Magic store, the zone music that always played, about the steep ravine down to the docks, and the Tsoo and Freaks who haunted it. Flying over the ocean, and seeing the war walls in the distance.

And I will never do those things again, most likely.

I know it is wrong of me, and perhaps indicative of a psychological failing in me, but I lay there and felt actual hate toward whoever made the decision to throw not just me, but all of us out of our safe little Eden, such an important part of my life and all of our lives. So many of us have lost so much, while theyre lounging in an office somewhere manipulating their stocks or whatever crap thing it is they are doing today. And how when it suits thier purpose, they will do the same thing all over again to another set of loyal players.

I am angry. I want revenge. I dont think they have one freaking clue what they did to us. And I want them to feel the same pain. The same loss.
What you wrote here, Illusionss, really resonates with me.  Ditto for all the posts that follow yours.  (Hi & hugs to Healix and all of you!)  No, I don't believe this is any way a "psychological failing" but rather an entirely natural and normal response to grief, especially deep grieving.  I bet none of us anticipated just how strongly we would feel were the unthinkable to happen (which did) - and that shock alone since all indicators were positive with new powersets etc available, the new Issue in open Beta, OMG why would NCSoft pull the plug like this?!?!  That only compounded our grief and sense of loss.  Is it a sense of "entitlement" when a product one has emotionally bonded with gets yanked? Possibly.  I know V.V's view from that Korean Times article.  I still think of when Coca-Cola Company yanked "old" Coke and tried selling  New Coke - and man, glad they brought Classic Coke back in a hurry since no other cola soda tastes right to my taste buds.  I feel additional irritation when MMOs like EQ etc get to go on - happy for those players still getting to enjoy their MMORPG world and wondering why I cannot likewise enjoy mine.

Victoria Victrix of course writes both cogently and eloquently upon the topic.  Dear lady, how happy I am for you and Team Wildcard to be our advocates and spokesmen.  You, the Quich and Rae and many I shan't name are our Champions!!  THANK YOU!!!!

I don't regard myself as either an angry person nor a vengeful man, but I have struggled with these feelings, even as a pacifist for what NCSoft top brass did to us so callously.  Sure, they're within their legal rights, Hoo-rah for them, but Pfffft too and their lamebrain call.  (Remembering that one brilliant icon of Morpheus(?) saying "I recognize you've made a decision, but because it's a stupid one I intend to oppose it!"   Sorry for the paraphrase and Thanks to whomever did that graphic.)

Re: dreaming or even just remembering, not daydreaming exactly, man, Illusionss I read your words and I'm instantly transported in my mind back to Talos, flying out of the tram to the PI Ferry,etc. just as you describe!  Bet we many of us did that LOTS!!  For myself these past few weeks, I have moments when unbidden some character of mine is exiting Wentworth's in Steel Canyon and flying off toward his next mission, some mission door in SC taking me past Blyde Square and the music that played there (musically that was one of my faves.)  In this 2-3 second recollection day-dream I don't even visualize/see in mind's eye a specific character of mine, just boots and legs and a cape flapping - I'm sure we all remember those super cape animations - and more often than not, I shunt such memories aside, rather than endure further  sorrow and sadness about this loss.  Doing so can still make me so unhappy, bringing tears and/or anger to my eyes and/or heart.

I've dabbled a bit in DDO, finally got my Paladin out of the damn tutorial, done a few intro quests; yeah it looks okay, tho hardly stellar.  I haven't tried CO or DCUO since I know I'd find that a truly painful reminder of what I'd lost/had taken from me, legally of course, but still taken.  I've played and dabbled in LOTRO off and on for a few years, getting toons to mid level (mid 30's) but after CoH ended, I just couldn't get back into LOTRO, nor even DDO, discovering that about all I wanted to do was not play them but just move an avatar around.  Sheesh, does this sound pathetic?  After playing a few games of Civ 4, and my non CoH MMO gaming attempts, I realized I simply have no taste for gaming at all presently.  I anticipate that in time I shall, but NCSoft has KILLED my enjoyment for gaming entirely it seems.  CoH is the only game I find I have any taste for.  Maybe like with Coke, I can enjoy 7-Up, or root beer or other flavors of soda, but will avoid those reminding me of classic coke.  I want the "Real Thing" and only that.  (Apologies to Pepsi drinkers, but I expect it's the same for you.)  Thus to continue with my beverage analogy, I'm on to blogging and writing and other non-gaming activities, perhaps rather like having tea, coffee, or even filtered water in lieu of any "soda pop."  Grrrrr!! NCSoft, I don't hate your corporation, nor your rank-and-file employees who did their jobs so well.  It's the executives there only I take strong exception to, and even then I prefer/try to feel no ill will - tho sometimes fail (heck we have my ranting posts here on Titan to prove it!)

I hope you'll soon come to love yourself much better, Illusionss, not in some narcissistic way, but with Compassion as you would a friend you had liking and high regard for.  You're worthy of it!!  (*stifles desire to launch into my views on spirituality and spiritual loving-kindness, Compassion, Agape, Buddhism, etc.)

Thanks again, Titans!!  You're my SG now!!  Apologies for the Walls of Text, my SGmates, but I feel certain anyone reading this will understand exactly what I'm saying.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on January 23, 2013, 09:27:09 AM
JR, you are in my mind again, writing my thoughts down.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 23, 2013, 10:41:01 AM
JR, you are in my mind again, writing my thoughts down.

((((((((*******MEGA HUGS TO YOU, HEALIX*******))))))))     :)

LOL, dear, we are on the same page again!!  RL and psychologically.  Hmmm, must be time to up MY meds. *WINK*   8)

This SG or League of Leagues is the BEST!!!! PS.  I even heard back from one of my former SGmates (we played 4-6 servers together, tho mostly Justice, Infinity, and Victory.)  Peace out!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on January 23, 2013, 02:39:54 PM
I dreamed that I reinstalled the Beta client for some reason (I think I was using Icon on it), and it actually connected.  I didn't have any of my characters, but the game was up and running and I could create a new character and play on it.

... I woke up sad.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on January 23, 2013, 04:02:13 PM
Thanks for your kind words John, this whole thing has really thrown me - and I think, almost all of us - for a loop.

I am currently trying to salve my feelings by eagerly awaiting the long-delayed "Aliens: Colonial Marines." I am a huuuuuuuuge Alien nerd, I love these films - well, except for Alien: Ressurrection - and I played "Alien: Trilogy" until I nearly burned our Playstation 2 into the ground. Looking forward to scragging those xenos yet again! And since its not an MMO, no one can ever take it completely away from me. [I think you can co-op play up to 4 players if you want. But solo is good.]

But even so, what I am really doing is just marking time until we get a decent successor to CoX. Even though I am very vested emotionally in the Alien universe, my Marine will never fly. And that is my benchmark. Flight.

CoX was really many games in one. Did you want to be a cyborg? OK. A dimension-warping sorcerer? Gotcha. A genetically enhanced supersoldier? No problem. A seductive demoness, complete with twitching pointed tail? Great. A fairy? Yup. A robot? No problem. And on it went! NO OTHER GAME allows this, and it sucks!!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on January 23, 2013, 04:42:35 PM
A giant genetically tweaked guppy with mechanical legs bolted on by a Freakshow doctor? Spike the Guppy.

A cow distributing Kinetically boosted milkshots? Moo Jooz.

A mouse who fell off the boat to Hades and was gifted with the powers of the River Lethe? Deathmouse.

Yeah, that and more............much more.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Segev on January 23, 2013, 05:27:08 PM
I think you mean the river Styx.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on January 23, 2013, 05:38:33 PM
Since Deathmouse is family friendly he doesn't actually "kill" villians he used his powers of Dark Miasma and Water Blast to soak them with the waters of the River Lethe - making them forget their past lives of evil.

The River Lethe flowed through the plain of Lethe in Hades. Also known as the Ameles potamos (river of unmindfulness), the river flowed around the cave of Hypnos where its murmuring induces drowsiness. The shades of the dead were required to drink from its water in order to forget their earthly life. Poets frequently use Lethe as a metaphor for the underworld in general.

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: FatherXmas on January 23, 2013, 05:51:32 PM
Face Off, SyFy's FX makeup reality show, did "create your own DC character last night.  They contestants each had a consultation with one of DC's current artists (including Lee and DiDio) who did an original sketch for each of them.

Seeing each of their costumes and makeup just made me miss the game more.

Edit, found this list of artists.

Jim Lee
Dan DiDio
Mark Buckingham
Cliff Chiang
Tony S. Daniel
David Finch
Nicola Scott
J.H. Williams III
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 24, 2013, 09:10:37 AM
Ironwolf, I really enjoyed reading about Deathmouse and the Kinetic Moo Jooz!  ROFL!!!  I adored the creativity of others as much as mine in CoH.

Re: flight being the criteria.  Yeah, I'm with you on that.  While I wasn't terribly good at Super Jump leaping (and found Teleport conceptually way cool - but too END-expensive vs. the other other travel powers) what I hate in the other MMO's, e.g. "standard" fantasy MMO's is my toons there can't jump even half as well as a first level CoH toon can.   While traveling is not only valid and often featured as part of the tale in various novels (e.g. LotR), I still laugh remembering one tabletop pen and paper session when after lengthy descriptions etc. one of my gamer friends turned to the GM and she asked, "Can we get there yet?"  CoH let me get to the action quickly, tho I often enjoyed the scenery while getting there.

Illusionss, I also love the "ALIENS" trilogy.  I started with the second film (since I'm not a big fan of horror), loved all the heroic action/adventure, especially that line of Ripley's "Get away from her you, B...  Pancake!"  Yeah, after seeing Alien:Resurrection, technically a good film, e.g. aliens swimming underwater; afterwards tho I felt like "well, I guess they've done all they can do with Aliens."  That is until Alien vs. Predator.  Bwahaha!  That was fun!!  GL, man, and take care.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on January 24, 2013, 02:36:57 PM
You going to give "Colonial Marines" a shot, John? It frankly looks ahhhh-maaaazing, and you can get a PC platform version - which is what I am going to do. I was actually planning on giving it a spin even before CoX closure was announced; I was not LEAVING CoX over it, but I definitely wanted to add it to my gameplay roster. My rationale was that if something happened to one of the games, I would still have the other to play.  :( Lo, how right I was.

Was watching a gameplay demo on YouTube the other day, one of the developers was trying to do a walkthrough of one of the areas and every time he started talking, ergo got distracted a xenomorph jumped on him from somewhere and killed him, it was hilarious. Looks very intense. Its an M for Mature game.

Unlike the movies, where people wearing xeno suits are bound by the laws of gravity just like all of us, in the game xenos also haunt the walls and ceiling. And everythings really dark, so you have trouble SEEING them, which I find very realistic. I really want to like this, because GW2 is just not satisfying to me. It is a hum-drum grindfest.

I will still be there with bells on should we get an emulator or a new superhero-themed game, do not get me wrong. I just miss gaming and want to stay busy until that day dawns when we can fly again.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Knightslayer on January 24, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
CoX was really many games in one. Did you want to be a cyborg? OK. A dimension-warping sorcerer? Gotcha. A genetically enhanced supersoldier? No problem. A seductive demoness, complete with twitching pointed tail? Great. A fairy? Yup. A robot? No problem. And on it went! NO OTHER GAME allows this, and it sucks!!
That's pretty much what makes it irreplaceable for me...
Just a small sample of my characters list included:a  commander of a hi-tech soldier squad, a psionically gifted cop in power armor, a shadowy vampire, a future android with incredible selfrepair systems, a genetically enhanced super soldier, a body-hopping demonic entity, a Shivan infused science project (with a hero counterpart that accomplished the same through power armor with a shivan shard-based reactor powering it), and many, many other concepts.
While I'm having a great time with SWTOR & TSW, they simply can't scratch that creative itch that CoX did.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 24, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
You going to give "Colonial Marines" a shot, John? It frankly looks ahhhh-maaaazing, and you can get a PC platform version - which is what I am going to do. I was actually planning on giving it a spin even before CoX closure was announced; I was not LEAVING CoX over it, but I definitely wanted to add it to my gameplay roster. My rationale was that if something happened to one of the games, I would still have the other to play.  :( Lo, how right I was.

Was watching a gameplay demo on YouTube the other day, one of the developers was trying to do a walkthrough of one of the areas and every time he started talking, ergo got distracted a xenomorph jumped on him from somewhere and killed him, it was hilarious. Looks very intense. Its an M for Mature game.

Unlike the movies, where people wearing xeno suits are bound by the laws of gravity just like all of us, in the game xenos also haunt the walls and ceiling. And everythings really dark, so you have trouble SEEING them, which I find very realistic. I really want to like this, because GW2 is just not satisfying to me. It is a hum-drum grindfest.

I will still be there with bells on should we get an emulator or a new superhero-themed game, do not get me wrong. I just miss gaming and want to stay busy until that day dawns when we can fly again.
Hi, Illusionss!  Thanks for the recommendation and micro-review of the game.  I'm likely not going to play it; first and primarily is because I'm suffering Gaming Anhedonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anhedonia which I attribute solely to NCSoft and our End-of-Days experience during Sunsetting.  All the love and caring shown during the 3 months and especially on that final night (at least it was night where I live on 11/30 / early 12/1) was intensely heart-warming as our CoH experience came to a close.  The heartbreak I suffered (we all suffered) when the monitor image froze and blinked out was equally as intense.  One can read the Grieving Thread I started on Titan even as my tears were flowing.  http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,6503.msg80701.html#msg80701  Others add significant insight there, especially a Bereavement Counselor who also played CoH.  In short, I've lost my taste for gaming, at least temporarily, and part of me feels adamantly about never subjecting myself to such emotional and psychological pain ever again, at least not willingly.   Perhaps I may have developed a mild phobia about any MMO I might try getting ended in such an abrupt manner regardless of the rationality of such prospect.  I know when our old family dog died, it was a long time (2 years) before our family decided to get another (in fact we got two marvelous puppies, litter mates, the same breed as my boyhood "friend" and canine companion, a golden retriever.)   

I recall one SGmate telling us on guildportal, how much he loved the SG and all of us, that he wished he could play but he'd been thru MMORPG shutdown before and just could not put himself thru it again.  He said he felt guilty about not "being there for us," but we wrote back to assure him not to.  After all, our purpose in gaming is to have fun, not to experience miserably painful feelings.  I'll note again that MMORPGing for many also taught useful life skills such as socializing or just learning using one's computer.

My second reason for passing on "Colonial Marines" is that I have a rather vivid imagination and strong emotional response to visual images.  While the game sounds super and probably well done (aka you enjoy it   :)) I know that I would not care for xenoforms leaping out at me and defeating my avatar.  As one of my gamer friends noted to me, "I don't care for the shuffling horde of rotting zombies to look too realistic!"  Thus for me, CoH was perfect!!  Baddies/adversaries defeated weren't "killed" but rendered powerless/knocked out and sent to jail; ditto for when I was defeated - my toon didn't "die" but was sent to the hospital.  The level of violence was "cartoon-perfect" (imo) in being both realistic enough yet sufficiently imaginary for me to find pleasure in playing.  Only my Claws scrapper drew animated blood when in combat and even then LOL, I usually preferred energy blasts etc to even guns like Dual Pistols and Assault Rifle, thus keeping the violence more imaginary; e.g. the fantasy of combat rather than actually doing it.  I mean, I could play an avatar who is skilled in martial arts, or go to the dojo to experience this myself.

I noted from a recent MMORPG e-magazine that the White House intends a study of MMO gaming with respect to the effect(s) upon eliciting violence.  As a former Psychology major, I expect they'll find a link, for reasons identical to those linking TV and movies with violence. (ref: the Bobo doll experiments et al http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobo_doll_experiment)  E.g. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold had watched and re-watched the "Matrix" movies lots before improvising explosives and shooting up Columbine high school and their fellow classmates.  Some people are MUCH better able to distinguish imagination and fantasy from reality - perhaps most - but I recall one friend who has a diagnosis of schizo-affective disorder (btw he's a really nice guy, songwriter and musician) who told us when we invited him to game with us, "Gee, I'd love to but unfortunately it would seem too real to me."

Hope this post isn't too long-winded.   ;)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 24, 2013, 08:28:39 PM
I'm not sure this is exactly the place for this and Septipheran may have posted this elsewhere on Titan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU4xmUQjGtM&feature (yeah, I subscribe to his youtube channel.)  I love the glimpse I have from this and all the other videos fans of CoH have made - it takes me  pleasantly down Memory Lane & is the closest I can get (personally) to playing CoH again.  I also really like his selection of music for this vid.   I found the experience pleasurable and even uplifting, tho aware that another might have a different emotional response to viewing this (i.e. sad)  Hope you also enjoy it!   8)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on January 24, 2013, 08:54:53 PM
Just as some people can have a beer and a sandwich and have no problem not becoming an alcoholic - some people have a beer and go on a 2 month bender.

Controlling guns, games or TV/movies is far less practical than spending more time with people and getting them help if they need it. Some people are more vulnerable to these things and so removing the thing causing the problem is far easier than removing the ways they could act out.

Here in the Detroit area we had a guy just spraying people with a plastic pop bottle with gas and setting it on fire. No amount of regulations can stop that behavior. Increasing the care for those with mental problems and identifying them is the best thing. You understand your own personal circumstances and I am glad you can filter for yourself those types of things that could cause an issue.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on January 24, 2013, 08:58:11 PM
Completely understood John, I totally can relate to the fear of getting too attached again. I wont be getting too attached to much, unless it has a single-player component, or the game is run by people who can be trusted to not let us twist in the wind just for fun. But I am a pretty serious gamer and I'm rather at loose ends at the moment. I dont want to let my skills get rusty.

There is an old saying, "A new love chases the old." I feel that it is at least somewhat true; for instance, when grieving over the death of a beloved pet, I have found that trying to help an orphan distracts me from my pain, and helps me heal. I dont FORGET my pain but it helps me not dwell on it too much. That's what I'm trying to do here. And its why I own a bunch of cats.

For anyone else even mildly curious, here is a link to an eleven-minute walkthrough of the game in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fHv4wQJfSY

Please note that this IS rated Mature, due to violence. And violent it is.

Quote
My second reason for passing on "Colonial Marines" is that I have a rather vivid imagination and strong emotional response to visual images.  While the game sounds super and probably well done (aka you enjoy it   ) I know that I would not care for xenoforms leaping out at me and defeating my avatar.

Point taken, and to some extent I agree - I just love Alien so much, I'm willing to risk high intensity. I have avoided the Resident Evil games because of reports of players being disturbed over too much realism. I have several different times been told to never play Resident Evil alone in the house with the lights off! So I take that seriously, having heard it from more than one person... I dont think that game is for me.

At the end of the link posted above, the Queen from "Aliens" does appear, all twenty-foot-tall of her, and it is definitely one of those "Oh ****" moments.

Back to waiting to fly again....
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on January 24, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
Just as some people can have a beer and a sandwich and have no problem not becoming an alcoholic - some people have a beer and go on a 2 month bender.

Controlling guns, games or TV/movies is far less practical than spending more time with people and getting them help if they need it. Some people are more vulnerable to these things and so removing the thing causing the problem is far easier than removing the ways they could act out.

Here in the Detroit area we had a guy just spraying people with a plastic pop bottle with gas and setting it on fire. No amount of regulations can stop that behavior. Increasing the care for those with mental problems and identifying them is the best thing. You understand your own personal circumstances and I am glad you can filter for yourself those types of things that could cause an issue.

As a mental health professional myself, I can unequivocably state that the deinstitutionalizing of the severely mentally ill is the greatest failed experiment of the last 50 years. This in essence told paranoid, delusional people "Hey you can manage your own care! See ya!" and shoved them out the door.

Guess what? They CANT manage their own care, because they're delusional! If parents or spouses try to step in this can get them seriously injured or even killed. Of course this will all take billions to fix, and we won't get really serious about it until a few more horrific shootings. And then the "fix" will not involve an intervention with the mentally ill, no we will lock up the guns instead - as if people were not offing each other long before the advent of the firearm. Witness the guy with the can of gas and a lighter! We took the guns, problem solved, right? *sigh*
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on January 24, 2013, 09:42:10 PM
As a mental health professional myself, I can unequivocably state that the deinstitutionalizing of the severely mentally ill is the greatest failed experiment of the last 50 years. This in essence told paranoid, delusional people "Hey you can manage your own care! See ya!" and shoved them out the door.

Guess what? They CANT manage their own care, because they're delusional! If parents or spouses try to step in this can get them seriously injured or even killed. Of course this will all take billions to fix, and we won't get really serious about it until a few more horrific shootings. And then the "fix" will not involve an intervention with the mentally ill, no we will lock up the guns instead - as if people were not offing each other long before the advent of the firearm. Witness the guy with the can of gas and a lighter! We took the guns, problem solved, right? *sigh*

+1 this.

Mexico, some of the tightest gun control laws in the world but ya more likely to be shot by a fully automatic AK-47 there than 5 minutes away, in New Mexico where open carry is legal (of course still no fully automatic without the special permit.) People in ELP, TX get shot more by bullets coming from across the border than shootings that actually happen on ELP,TX soil. In fact a woman just got shot downtown ELP the other day from a gunfight that was happening on the Mexican side. So much for gun control.

People that shoot people illegally that is, rarely ever use a gun they legally bought in a store. Usually it's a gun they are not supposed to have in the first place. Many felons in the jail there are on their second and up murder charge, some been a felon since their teens and were never legally able to buy a gun, yet, they still manage to get one and shoot someone. Gun control wont solve the problem.

And if people want to kill someone they will. Just ask the four guys whose head was found in the desert, beheaded by machete. Or the guy who was found burnt alive in his own trunk.  Or the guy that tied his family up (wife and three daughters) and lit the house on fire.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on January 24, 2013, 11:12:55 PM
...And when the wife and his 2 yr. old daughter escaped, his brother [accomplice in the crime] tried to stuff the little girl back into the burning house! The mind boggles. Definitely, banning guns will solve such problems  :P And dont even get me started about that moron that threw a young woman onto the subway tracks, so he could steal her cellphone.

We as a society are just going to have to get some folks off the street, permanently, for their own good and the good of society. Hate it, but its got to happen. And we're going to have to ease up on some privacy regulations - because if someone came out of the state mental hospital after a six-month stay, they dont need to be purchasing weapons two days later. Right now we have no way to know where they were yesterday. 

Two bad choices, you have to pick the one that benefits the most people.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 25, 2013, 12:41:13 AM
Just as some people can have a beer and a sandwich and have no problem not becoming an alcoholic - some people have a beer and go on a 2 month bender.

Controlling guns, games or TV/movies is far less practical than spending more time with people and getting them help if they need it. Some people are more vulnerable to these things and so removing the thing causing the problem is far easier than removing the ways they could act out.

Here in the Detroit area we had a guy just spraying people with a plastic pop bottle with gas and setting it on fire. No amount of regulations can stop that behavior. Increasing the care for those with mental problems and identifying them is the best thing. You understand your own personal circumstances and I am glad you can filter for yourself those types of things that could cause an issue.
This.  I agree with everything you've said here.  Especially for the Care part after identifying; for me that resonates as Compassion as well as intelligent behavior, far different from "nanny state" fears - but I digress into Politics.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: FatherXmas on January 25, 2013, 08:15:28 AM
...And when the wife and his 2 yr. old daughter escaped, his brother [accomplice in the crime] tried to stuff the little girl back into the burning house! The mind boggles. Definitely, banning guns will solve such problems  :P And dont even get me started about that moron that threw a young woman onto the subway tracks, so he could steal her cellphone.

We as a society are just going to have to get some folks off the street, permanently, for their own good and the good of society. Hate it, but its got to happen. And we're going to have to ease up on some privacy regulations - because if someone came out of the state mental hospital after a six-month stay, they dont need to be purchasing weapons two days later. Right now we have no way to know where they were yesterday. 

Two bad choices, you have to pick the one that benefits the most people.

So no hope for treatment?  Since you say you can't rely on them to stay on their meds and locking them up for the rest of their lives is the only option?  Hey congrats our panel of experts have diagnosed you with a mental illness so you will be in protective (to the public) custody for ever.  Sounds like the UK's method of handling those with mental illness.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 25, 2013, 08:56:32 AM
Back to the Thread topic.  I heard back from one of my closest SGmates and best CoH friends who wrote me; he said (quoting with his permission):

"Didn't even realize there was a Colbert SuperNation in the COH. Shows how much I still had to discover; THEY ROBBED ME OF MY EXPLORATION OF NICHE FAN-BASES!"
[That was in reply to my "getting the word out" about our Save CoH efforts re: Colbert Nation, so let us add this to NCSoft's list of sins.  Beside I bet there was or should have been a nifty badge or accolade for niche sgbase exploration!   And from the same friend]

"I still cannot access the Titan Network forums; says I can't log in, and all efforts to fix this tell me I'm already logged in. As such, feel free to post evil things about me, and throw in some quotes for good measure as required."

If a mod would send me via PM etc how I can assist @Kavik to log into Titan and join us here, I'd appreciate it - and we might enjoy having a werewolf scrapper (1 of his "mains"), tanker, blaster and dom (Kid Kilovolt) with us.  He's also an amateur writer, retired U.S. Military, father (his son and son's GF sometimes gamed with us) and imo a thoroughly decent guy.    /em holdtorch
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on January 25, 2013, 02:59:27 PM
So no hope for treatment?  Since you say you can't rely on them to stay on their meds and locking them up for the rest of their lives is the only option?  Hey congrats our panel of experts have diagnosed you with a mental illness so you will be in protective (to the public) custody for ever.  Sounds like the UK's method of handling those with mental illness.

A select few will comply with treatment, and that is a great thing. The vast majority of the seriously mentally ill are noncompliant with treatment, from taking their meds to showing up for routine apppointments with their therapist. They do this for literally decades, in and out of jails and mental hospitals the whole time. This causes a tremendous amount of suffering, both for the sick person, their friends and family, and society at large. Often the family reaches burnout and cuts off contact with the sufferer. When your MOTHER cuts you off, you're in big trouble.

This is me: other people's rights stop where mine begin. If you as a paranoid schizophrenic have choked your grandmother to death with your bare hands some months ago (one of about 50 instances of seriously criminal patient behaviors I can think of, from personal experience), REFUSE to comply with your psych meds, you get out of jail, burn down two houses, threaten your girlfriend and her mother with a loaded shotgun, and then carjack three cars in one weekend, guess what? You need to be somewhere so that society can be safe from you.

The sad thing is, if they took their meds we could avoid all this. But most of them won't. Many psych patients are really paranoid about their meds, thinking they are poison or a chemical neutering device or implants from the FBI or any one of hundreds of nutty things. These people need management, not least because the next house they try to burn down may be your own. I have no desire to get thrown off a subway platform in the name of someone else's "freedom"!

I do not lack sympathy for these people, but I see this stuff every day and I have no illusions about most patient's management of their own cases - or lack thereof. God bless the few with the insight needed to take care of themselves, for they are.... pretty few.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on January 25, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
I personally have reported a felon in possession of a fire arm now on 5 different occasions.

The guy served 10 years (actually served) for Tax Fraud, Drug Distribution and Realty Fraud. I have reported that he has 2 fire arms in his house, what they are and exactly where they are kept now to State police, local Sheriff, county Sheriff, Child Protective Services and the DHS and they have done exactly - NOTHING.

This guy is also delusional and is currently being forced to undergo court ordered mental evaluation and yet I can't get the police to either charge him or remove the guns. Police don't actually do anything they just file reports.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Knightslayer on January 28, 2013, 08:12:43 AM
These people need management, not least because the next house they try to burn down may be your own. I have no desire to get thrown off a subway platform in the name of someone else's "freedom"!

I know that feeling very well, my downstairs neighbor tried to commit suicide by setting the place on fire when he had his psychotic break.
I feel bad for the guy, since he was a good person, but at the same time I was very glad he wasn't allowed to come back after that.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TonyV on January 28, 2013, 08:35:34 AM
"I still cannot access the Titan Network forums; says I can't log in, and all efforts to fix this tell me I'm already logged in. As such, feel free to post evil things about me, and throw in some quotes for good measure as required."

Tell this person to e-mail me at tonyv@cohtitan.com, even if he has before and I somehow missed his message.  Tell him to be sure to mention whether or not he has a Titan Key, and if so, what it is.  Also, if he registered using a different e-mail address, let me know.  We'll get it worked out.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Palladiamors on January 28, 2013, 11:28:57 AM
I'm not actually handling the loss of my Mastermind.  There's just nothing I can do for it.  The closest I can come are some necromancers in other games,  or the engineer or summoner in Hellgate London.  Which is depressing.  I miss my armies.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on January 28, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
It's a little tough for me to even go into the Icon app to play with the creation process. Knowing that it's as far as I can go makes me even sadder...I want to log into the City so bad...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: WildFire15 on January 28, 2013, 10:54:14 PM
I'm still pretty peeved. Really missing the ability for Mastermind minions to effectively have conversations thanks to /petsay command
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on January 29, 2013, 06:44:45 AM
I'm still pretty peeved. Really missing the ability for Mastermind minions to effectively have conversations thanks to /petsay command
I remember watching one Mastermind's robots singing (and dancing) the YMCA...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nightwatch on January 29, 2013, 06:42:47 PM
Handling the loss?  Not well.  Have tried STOnline and Champions Online.  Can't get interested in either.  A major attraction for me was the ability to really create some (to me at least) cool superheroes and then the capacity to team or solo depending on my mood.  Nothing else out there seems to provide that.

Now I annoy my wife and daughters, buy more comic books than I normally would and haunt these forums looking for some hint of rescue.  It's a sad life.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Knightslayer on January 30, 2013, 08:20:14 AM
I'm not actually handling the loss of my Mastermind.  There's just nothing I can do for it.  The closest I can come are some necromancers in other games,  or the engineer or summoner in Hellgate London.  Which is depressing.  I miss my armies.
I haven't even tried to replace that... since no other MMO's pet classes can measure up to CoH's Masterminds... =/
Instead I've been having fun with the story elements of other MMO's, and shooting up some aliens in Xcom.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyShin on January 30, 2013, 01:56:12 PM
Got to face the facts.

(https://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/ray_wilson1/5f910508.jpg)

I've moved on to Champions Online and Star Trek Online, and while both are great games, they're games to pass the time, not the immersive world COH was.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on January 30, 2013, 07:34:15 PM
Got to face the facts.

(https://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/ray_wilson1/5f910508.jpg)

I've moved on to Champions Online and Star Trek Online, and while both are great games, they're games to pass the time, not the immersive world COH was.
Agreed. It's taken 4 MMOs and a few stand alone games to take the place of CoH. And that's just to pass the time.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 30, 2013, 08:57:31 PM
Tell this person to e-mail me at tonyv@cohtitan.com, even if he has before and I somehow missed his message.  Tell him to be sure to mention whether or not he has a Titan Key, and if so, what it is.  Also, if he registered using a different e-mail address, let me know.  We'll get it worked out.

Thank you, TonyV!!! I shall do so!  For whatever reason it seems my auto-notification messages from Titan Network forums are no longer working, hence my neglect here.  Glad I thought to log in to see why there had been no activity.  LOL, my bad!  Peace.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 30, 2013, 09:06:40 PM
It's a little tough for me to even go into the Icon app to play with the creation process. Knowing that it's as far as I can go makes me even sadder...I want to log into the City so bad...

(((((*****BIG BIG HUGS to you, Healix*****)))))

Even apart from my IT inexpertise, I think that's part of why I haven't tried to look at Icon to see my toons again.  Maybe I would if I were clever the way so many are re: making new CoH videos etc. from the materials that are ours.  I also wanted to say, dear Healix, that I like your new signature and avatar lines.  ROFLMAO!!!!!  Yeah, I'm busy at lot of the time also, even when asleep!  *grin*   :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 30, 2013, 09:09:56 PM
Got to face the facts.

(https://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/ray_wilson1/5f910508.jpg)

I've moved on to Champions Online and Star Trek Online, and while both are great games, they're games to pass the time, not the immersive world COH was.

That poster is pure awesome-sauce!!!!  Kudos and Bravo/Brava to whomever made it!!    ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyShin on January 30, 2013, 11:33:58 PM
That poster is pure awesome-sauce!!!!  Kudos and Bravo/Brava to whomever made it!!    ;D

pic info says..'RayWilson1', found it on a broken link to a City of Heroes forum post.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 31, 2013, 01:14:44 AM
pic info says..'RayWilson1', found it on a broken link to a City of Heroes forum post.
Thank you, LadyShin!  This old fogey doesn't know how to access pic info yet!  Man, am I getting an appreciation for what my grandparents lived thru as the world and its technology changed around them.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sugoi on January 31, 2013, 01:37:51 AM
Got to face the facts.

(https://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/ray_wilson1/5f910508.jpg)

I've moved on to Champions Online and Star Trek Online, and while both are great games, they're games to pass the time, not the immersive world COH was.

Agreed on that aspect.  My typical CO session is to see if the goodies I put in the market have sold, run a solo mission or two to pick up more droppings.. list em and quit the sesion.  Teamwork?  What's that?  I went so far as to quit my SG in CO, since I spent 95% of the time soloing, after sticking with the group for a month. I won't name the SG, since they seemed to be great folks individually, but being a member of a do-nothing together SG isn't my style.

And just looking at the pic, I wonder when those girls will get the same idea I had, and make NCSoft's life "interesting".  Could be a fun post-CoH fanfic there.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on January 31, 2013, 03:05:18 AM
I'm still in the throes of influenza, and today has mostly consisted of crying weakly.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on January 31, 2013, 05:29:42 AM
Poor VV.  You need a hug.

A non-germy hug.

From a long way off.  :)

Here's hoping you feel better very soon.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Joshex on January 31, 2013, 07:13:26 AM
how am I handling the loss of the game?

well I played mostly as a hero.. but.. I'm in talks with several mafias to see what they feel like doing and got my contacts in korea scoping out teh place for a server raid..

I am slowly sinking into a pit of insanity without City of heroes and Villains to release it in.

recently I found I can even pride myself on the level of my insanity. and I hang around with other insane people online. we talk about robot maids fighting in tournaments and general mind-@#$%ing.

I also makes 3D models for teh crazy peoples!

got a plan to shame NCSoft beyond thier ability to recover from it too..

I think I'll play on red side alot more when the game is back...

which it will be back one way or another or my way, whichever comes first MWAHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Harpospoke on February 01, 2013, 05:50:18 AM
I think about the game every day.   Funny because last summer I could go weeks without playing...because it was "always there when I needed it".   Now I just wish I could log on and hear the sounds and music, and see the sights I'm so used to looking at.    All my characters that each have memories attached to them...gone.    That world felt very real to me.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 01, 2013, 03:52:28 PM
I'm still in the throes of influenza, and today has mostly consisted of crying weakly.

Dear Misty, I hope you are soon feeling better and fully recovered from flu.  My "main" def., Kristoff, and other Von Gelminis could heal an entire team including the tank to full HP every 8 seconds, but for reasons that elude me (*cheesy grin*) I seem to lack a "dark servant" in this world; besides I don't believe we'd wanna get you healed and all better with dark miasma.  *Scans the skies for Healix or another proper healer*  Hoping this attempt at humor brings a smile.  (Said in best John Steed voice) "Mrs. Victrix, you're needed!!"  :D   Best wishes for a beautiful day and swift recovery.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Aura Controller on February 01, 2013, 08:09:41 PM
Genuinely peeved today I haven't got to the point where I literally hit something in a long time. Normal I would go and chill somewhere called pocket D BUT kind of freaking hard to do that now-a-days.

(Trying SO hard to not cuss right now...)

Have yet to find another good (Nondestructive) way to chill out.

Doesn't help that every time I get a little peeved off I think of NCSoft due to my outlet being SOMETHING they took away.
And that just makes it all the more worse.

Music helps but it was the music AND CoX that would calm me down.

*Sigh*

Gonna go scream profanity now.

Take care all.



================

Whew I feel better now. Playing music as loud as possible, screaming at the top of my lungs, and hitting my mattress as hard as I can. (Can't hurt it. lol)

That's the worst I been in a LONG time.

All good now though.  ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Palladiamors on February 01, 2013, 09:29:16 PM
I haven't even tried to replace that... since no other MMO's pet classes can measure up to CoH's Masterminds... =/
Instead I've been having fun with the story elements of other MMO's, and shooting up some aliens in Xcom.

You can't replace it.  Believe me,  I've looked.  Six pets,  some with sx unique pets,  but all with at least three unique types,  each with their own unique set of abilities, each nameable.  Some will allow the numbers ((Age of Conan,  Star Trek Online, Champions online)) and some the abilities ((Champions Online,  Guild Wars 2 (Ranger,  not necro) )) but even in Champions Case it just doesn't feel the same.  I think theme had a lot to do with it.  In Champions,  you'll wind up with a mishmash unavoidably if you go for numbers,  and while its interesting to have an Angel fight beside a demon,  three wolves,  four robots,  some super destructive toys,  and various forces of nature or magic,  it doesn't give you that unified sense of being.  My mercenary army was just that.  No demons or ninjas here.  My zombie army was the same.  Obviously my robot army was too.  So on and so fourth.  And apparently,  that makes a big difference.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on February 02, 2013, 03:51:14 AM
I have to say this past week has been the hardest since the first one.

Thursday night, the 24th, I lost my grandfather. He'd fallen ill the prior week. We were very, very close, and he was my only father figure. I haven't had a lot of free time since his passing, for obvious reasons, but it's times like these I really could've used the escapism that CoH provided me.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 02, 2013, 09:22:56 AM
I have to say this past week has been the hardest since the first one.

Thursday night, the 24th, I lost my grandfather. He'd fallen ill the prior week. We were very, very close, and he was my only father figure. I haven't had a lot of free time since his passing, for obvious reasons, but it's times like these I really could've used the escapism that CoH provided me.
Dear Perfidus,  I am so very, very sorry for your loss.  I'll follow this up with a PM (personal message).    ((((****warm virtual hugs****)))) if such is welcome, and otherwise extending my deepest most sincere condolences to your family.  It's at times like these I am reminded of John Donne's poem "No Man Is An Island" http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/no-man-is-an-island/
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ice Trix on February 02, 2013, 10:09:26 AM
I'm feeling like an addict needing a fix this weekend
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Quinch on February 02, 2013, 12:59:26 PM
Make that every weekend.

Been playing MvM in the meantime as a surrogate... it feels frustrating more often than not.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LegionAlpha on February 02, 2013, 05:54:17 PM
Is it sad for the reality that City of being gone to just hit you months after the end? It hit me when I watched a video of the end, where meteors were hitting the city and villains and heroes just walked away and gathered in Atlas Park. When I saw heroes flying it hit like a brick that I miss flying. I miss saving the world. I miss being a hero. I am not an emotional type guy, but that moved me to tears that I will never fly again.

I refuse to be someones lackey or butler to known heroes and do missions they do not want and refuse to live in a universe that even a company refuses to put money into. I want my city. I want criminals to fear me once again, I want villains with questionable morals ask themselves is it worth helping heroes or make things worse. I need the skies, I need to escape and do something worthwhile and feel like I am accomplishing something, no MMO currently is giving me that feel. I am a fish out of water in other games and feel like I do not belong there. I never realized the girl whom I was bored with, was the best thing that could have happened to me. And I want her back.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 02, 2013, 06:33:02 PM
Is it sad for the reality that City of being gone to just hit you months after the end? It hit me when I watched a video of the end, where meteors were hitting the city and villains and heroes just walked away and gathered in Atlas Park. When I saw heroes flying it hit like a brick that I miss flying. I miss saving the world. I miss being a hero. I am not an emotional type guy, but that moved me to tears that I will never fly again.

I refuse to be someones lackey or butler to known heroes and do missions they do not want and refuse to live in a universe that even a company refuses to put money into. I want my city. I want criminals to fear me once again, I want villains with questionable morals ask themselves is it worth helping heroes or make things worse. I need the skies, I need to escape and do something worthwhile and feel like I am accomplishing something, no MMO currently is giving me that feel. I am a fish out of water in other games and feel like I do not belong there. I never realized the girl whom I was bored with, was the best thing that could have happened to me. And I want her back.

Dear LegionAlpha,
I admit that video got me a bit misty-eyed as well.  However, it is still possible to Save the World and perhaps cities as well.  It is entirely possible to be a Hero and even for villains especially those with questionable morals to be brought to justice.  What I am about to propose is not escapism but doing something worthwhile.  Part of how I am dealing with losing CoH is by becoming once more involved in local and grassroots politics.  Here in the U.S. I taking a small role in the White House Initiative "Organizing for Action" as presented  by First Lady Michele Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMq_7v56rsc  I don't know if that will be your "cup of tea" but I think this is an unprecedented opportunity in U.S. history for citizen involvement -  and we still have far too many hapless citizens.  I don't know whether you live in the U.S. or not, but if not, perhaps there is something similar you can do in your community, even small things often have great value.  Often colleges, high schools, temples and churches, etc. provide many opportunities for volunteers.  Perhaps more than ever Heroism will be needed in the world of Tomorrow.  You've earned your wings; you're CoH trained in heroism.  Yeah, I know it's not quite as glamorous and often doesn't require a cape, but hey, neither NCSoft nor anyone can take your heroism away from you!  (Political disclaimer: yeah, I'm a Green Party Socialist but I have friends from all across the political spectrum, some quite conservative both in CoH and RL, but while we had very different ideas about how best to get there, what we discovered was that on many levels our fundamental values agreed nearly 100%.)

As to Flying again, for myself there is my Imagination and dreams.  Here's a piece of music that takes me soaring in my mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsxavPANO8s (REM lyrics version "It's the End of the World"  Peace and /em holdtorch  It may take years but we'll get Paragon City back!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: MWRuger on February 02, 2013, 08:33:02 PM
My world is pretty gray now. I didn't realize it, but CoH was the only really fun thing I had in my life. It's just work now. On the job or at home. Just work.

I miss CoH even more today then when it closed.

I can never forgive NCSoft for this. I don't hate them anymore. But I don't trust them and I can not forgive them. They could create the best game in the world but as long as COH molds in the darkness, it will remained unplayed.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 03, 2013, 12:34:44 AM
My world is pretty gray now. I didn't realize it, but CoH was the only really fun thing I had in my life. It's just work now. On the job or at home. Just work.

I miss CoH even more today then when it closed.

I can never forgive NCSoft for this. I don't hate them anymore. But I don't trust them and I can not forgive them. They could create the best game in the world but as long as COH molds in the darkness, it will remained unplayed.
Dear TheDevilYouKnow,  A very hardworking friend once reminded me "work to live, not live to work/"  If I don't speak sedition or heresy, may i with respect for your process suggest letting more joy in?  For me that's books, music and movies, silly card games with friends or just hanging out.  Or adding a photography or art class (ungraded, just for fun), go or learn dancing, just something fun that you've never done before but have thought would be nifty, e.g. archery, tai chi, etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on February 03, 2013, 05:27:37 AM
the main thing thats still hitting me atm is sheer boredom

im normally playing games during all my free time and before i would spend 90% of that on coh running around with friends or doing something crazy like soloing tfs or GMs

in other mmos you just cant do that, they all pretty much rely on the holy trinity

i also cant get into other mmos because 99% of the ones out there are gear grinding, xp grinding, fantasy grinding, grindfests


ive been playing games on my steam list but i burn through all of them within a day or 2, since november ive beaten about 12 games, the only one i still play very frequently is borderlands 2 (and ive played THAT so much im so bored with it i just join random online games and give poeple a bunch of guns for no reason)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 03, 2013, 05:42:51 AM
Dear TheDevilYouKnow,  A very hardworking friend once reminded me "work to live, not live to work/"  If I don't speak sedition or heresy, may i with respect for your process suggest letting more joy in?  For me that's books, music and movies, silly card games with friends or just hanging out.  Or adding a photography or art class (ungraded, just for fun), go or learn dancing, just something fun that you've never done before but have thought would be nifty, e.g. archery, tai chi, etc. etc. etc.
Since the shutdown, I've watched the entire series of Numbers, NCIS (Season 10 is pre-ordered), and half of The Big Bang Theory. Not to mention, occasionally play TSW, CO, STO, and MWO.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Jetfire99 on February 03, 2013, 07:52:22 AM
Honestly? had a few dreams very vivid dreams I was playing COH. Got so confused when I woke up I thought i'd fallen asleep and tried to wake up. Being haunted by the muses more or less of several of my creations. Playing CO, TSW, MWO and diving head long back into MUSH often with people from my SG. Also trying to not rage whenever I hear/see an NCSOFT product.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TonyV on February 03, 2013, 08:07:06 AM
Hey all, I've said this before, but I'm going to say it again because, as corny as it sounds, I do care about you folks and it's really important.

If you're having a lot of trouble coming to grips with the game shutting down, please seek professional help.  Don't feel silly, and don't let anyone convince you that "it's just a game" is a valid reason not to feel a sense of loss or a reason to grieve.  There are too many people out there who don't understand just how immersing an experience playing these games can be, and the kind of social ties that are suddenly yanked away when an event like this happens.

There are a lot of resources on the web to help out in seeking help.  Here's an article on WebMD (http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/guide/how-to-find-therapist), for example, that might help.  Google is your friend.

Mental health is no less important than physical health.  I've mentioned this before too, and it's no less true now.  If you break your arm, it's stupid to just hope it heals right on its own.  Hopefully you'd recognize anyone whose advice is to just suck it up and get over it as either not having your best interest at heart or grossly misunderstanding the necessity of medical attention.  Your brain is MUCH more important than your arm in living a healthy, happy life.  PLEASE take care of it just like you would any other organ or body part that is having some trouble!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 03, 2013, 01:11:14 PM
Hey all, I've said this before, but I'm going to say it again because, as corny as it sounds, I do care about you folks and it's really important.

If you're having a lot of trouble coming to grips with the game shutting down, please seek professional help.  Don't feel silly, and don't let anyone convince you that "it's just a game" is a valid reason not to feel a sense of loss or a reason to grieve.  There are too many people out there who don't understand just how immersing an experience playing these games can be, and the kind of social ties that are suddenly yanked away when an event like this happens.

There are a lot of resources on the web to help out in seeking help.  Here's an article on WebMD (http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/guide/how-to-find-therapist), for example, that might help.  Google is your friend.

Mental health is no less important than physical health.  I've mentioned this before too, and it's no less true now.  If you break your arm, it's stupid to just hope it heals right on its own.  Hopefully you'd recognize anyone whose advice is to just suck it up and get over it as either not having your best interest at heart or grossly misunderstanding the necessity of medical attention.  Your brain is MUCH more important than your arm in living a healthy, happy life.  PLEASE take care of it just like you would any other organ or body part that is having some trouble!
Dear TonyV,  First, Thank you, man!  You are so totally awesome with what all you've done here on Titan Network and how you/Titan basically "saved" the CoH Community from being totally homeless; i.e. we can be here even tho we lost (i believe only temporarily) our venue (the mmo.)

I'm gonna post a few links from a related grieving thread because I think some posts there speak directly to this topic.  Besides, it'll lend weight to my observations.  ;)  CoH meant a great deal to almost all of us.  The experience of playing CoH meant more to a number of us than we ever imagined it did, until it was gone. (I know that was true for me.  I was freakin' shocked to discover I could care this much about CoH or anything categorized as "a game".)  Playing CoH served multiple purposes from hanging out with friends (I remember some nights logging in to find people simply using coh as a chat room, which IMO was just fine, especially since most of the late night global chat was about builds, etc. tho sometimes it was just to IM chat for those of us who have occasional insomnia) to simply playing the game for the inherent pleasure of playing.  I know I used CoH at times as a stress-reliever to "blow off steam" from whatever RL niggling frustrations were getting to me (old norse Nugla) and LOL even had friends suggest to me on occasion that I go "blow up pixels" aka play CoH for a while.  I also played CoH as a pain-reliever, since the distraction provided by the immersive virtual world was better for me than a movie in pain-management.  In the Star Trek: TNG sense, CoH was my holodeck.

Unlike many adults and teens, since I am retired I have the luxury of time.  Many don't; and I well recall having to deal with my grieving the loss of a family member on a piecemeal basis when I was a working adult.  I believe this speaks directly to why our fellow fans and players of CoH are still expressing here on Titan feelings of sorrow and/or anger about CoH no longer 'being there" for us.  Again, kudos to Titan Network forums for giving us all a safe place to ventilate such feelings.  I'd like to quote our friend and fellow CoH player, Alchemedic, "Second, this community is providing people what is the most important thing necessary for the grieving process, which is support and understanding. The stresses people will feel about this is likely outside this forum. If places like this did not exist for people to express their sorrow, then it would be awful; the people here are helping each other by giving each other the time and space to mourn "openly."  source: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,6503.msg84803.html#msg84803  Alchemedic, who said he was a former professional bereavement counselor, and others had other things to say in that related thread; e.g.  http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,6503.msg83185.html#msg83185 and http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,6503.msg80923.html#msg80923

My own view is to grieve and let it out.  I know I don't wanna be saddled with either toxic anger, sorrow, or other unaddressed issues.  Again, I was just totally blown away, initially, by the strength of my emotional response to CoH ending.  But, having lived a bit above 5 decades on the planet, knew what I was feeling and able to identify my emotions.  Heck, I even had to deal with feelings of shock and surprise that I even had such feelings, but once I recognized the emotions there was no way I was not gonna deal with them.  Thus unlike some younger adults and definitely teens I had decades of experience to draw upon to help me get thru this.  This late in my own process I still feel occasional twinges of sorrow and anger - heck, as I write this I'm ANGRY at NCSoft and I guess even more broadly the world that the pleasure of playing CoH is denied me.  Though, yeah, life does go on.  *picks up metaphorical broom to start sweeping* and/or *picks up large and even small pieces of a beloved broken vase to see how I might glue it back together*  Long story short here: People need to grieve here for as long as we do, no time limit.  Especially and perhaps particularly those working adults and teens who are going thru their grieving process piecemeal and/or for whom this is the first significant loss they've had in their young lives.

I don't want to take anything away from what you're saying, TonyV.  I've benefited twice from working thru my emotions with a bereavement counselor.   (If any want details, I am willing to share that via PM or email but no casual reader need be burdened seeing me write about how I personally coped with such losses here.)

I'd like to conclude with a couple of Light Bulb jokes.  They go like this:

How many Minnesotans does it take to change a light bulb?  Answer: Two.  One to change it and the other to jump-start it.  (We often in MPLS, MN help one another jump start each other's cars during Minnesota winters (think Frostbite Falls from Rocky & Bullwinkle)

How many Manhattenites (people from Manhatten Island) does it take to change a light bulb?  Answer: Two.  One to mix the martinis while the other phones the electrician.

How many Zen Buddhists does it take to change a light bulb?  Answer:  The orchid has many petals.  (I invite you to think about this koan a moment)

Thank you, Titans, and Peace Out.  I hope you have a beautiful day! and a restful, relaxing evening.   :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironbull on February 03, 2013, 04:52:17 PM
How am i handling the loss?  Two words, Not Good.  Ever played Dynasty Warriors?  I had a Goateeg.  It now looks like Guan Yu's beard.  I got drunk the other night wrapped a bed sheet around my neck and went to the bar wishing it was pocket D.  I stood at a train station wondering why I couldn't find the train to Atlas.  Every time i hear the word Positive it sounds like Positron and I cry.  I go up to random people and ask if they want to form a league.  Don't even get me started on what happens when I see an image or hear a sound bite from the game.  I think the term is regression.  I making strides, but it's not looking good.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on February 03, 2013, 04:55:33 PM
dynasty warriors, good times, good times lol

i used to play that all the time back in high school, my favorite was dynasty warriors 4
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 03, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
How am i handling the loss?  Two words, Not Good.  Ever played Dynasty Warriors?  I had a Goateeg.  It now looks like Guan Yu's beard.  I got drunk the other night wrapped a bed sheet around my neck and went to the bar wishing it was pocket D.  I stood at a train station wondering why I couldn't find the train to Atlas.  Every time i hear the word Positive it sounds like Positron and I cry.  I go up to random people and ask if they want to form a league.  Don't even get me started on what happens when I see an image or hear a sound bite from the game.  I think the term is regression.  I making strides, but it's not looking good.
Dear Mr.Joshua,
I hope you won't take my advice to you unkindly.  Sir, I believe your wonderful brain is presently over-associating.  I gather you hunger to play CoH.  I presume that prior to CoH sunset you did not do such things as inviting random people (i think the word i'd use is "total strangers") to form leagues; nor do I imagine when at a train station that you looked for the train to Atlas Park formerly?  I ask this as a question, since if you did such things prior to CoH game shutdown then that might indicate something else than deep grieving and missing what you enjoyed in CoH.  The virtual fantasy world of CoH/mmorpg's and other games is not intended to be a substitute for reality, but a diversion in like manner when one reads novels or watches movies, hence enhances our real lives.   I advise you to do your best to SNAP OUT OF IT!!!!  Wake Up!!  It's 100% A-okay (imo) to imagine and daydream all one likes, provided one's mind and brain can make clear distinction between what is real and what is fantasy.  That alcohol or other chemicals might confuse the brain, probably suggests you'd be well advised to steer clear of drink for a while.  Yes, spontaneous age regression can and does occur, as when on reaches inside to get in tune with one's "inner child."  In all seriousness, if these symptoms you are having persist to the extent of interfering with social function and/or perception of reality, to me that's like an Alarm Clock or Big Red Flag that you should notice and take heed of.  In addition to your grappling with this yourself, you may well find benefit from talking with a counselor, therapist and/or really good friend.  If you choose to talk with others outside Titan Network about this, I would focus my initial conversation(s) on the grief and experience of loss you are having.  All by itself, grief can have profound effect upon the mind/psyche, and when extreme can distort perception, as I believe you are describing.   It may be that simply unburdening yourself by ventilating and giving voice to your feelings of loss around CoH to close friends, a high school or college counselor, etc. might be sufficient for your brain to auto-correct.  I'm gonna follow up this post by sending you an email and/or PM.  Take very, very good care of yourself.   Peace out!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on February 04, 2013, 06:43:34 PM
Is it sad for the reality that City of being gone to just hit you months after the end? It hit me when I watched a video of the end, where meteors were hitting the city and villains and heroes just walked away and gathered in Atlas Park. When I saw heroes flying it hit like a brick that I miss flying. I miss saving the world. I miss being a hero. I am not an emotional type guy, but that moved me to tears that I will never fly again.

If any one thing could be the 'poster child' for the loss of CoH, it's this. From what I've seen of other MMOs, City of Heroes was unique in the way that it actively removed obstacles to your character getting around. With the exception of the tops of the few buildings that poked up past the height limit, you could go anywhere -- and even though you would often make long-distance jaunts around Paragon City in the process of following a contact's arc, you weren't getting nickle-and-dime'd to death every time you got on the tram.

And I keep having odd crossover thoughts; I've been playing SWTOR, which for the most part avoids the 'twitch skills' play style, except for the damn jumping puzzles to get to datacrons -- which the Jedi and Sith have the same problems with; despite being able to leap a hundred feet or more to engage an opponent in melee, they can't jump on top of a ten-foot shipping container. And the zone designs build in barriers to force ground-bound characters into taking particular routes through terrain; I keep thinking how much time and effort running around would be saved if I just had Superleap or Flight...

I think the theme song from Firefly carries some of the poignancy of losing that freedom:
Quote
Take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Von Krieger on February 05, 2013, 01:45:44 AM
Well, after having purchased a new desk, as my old one looked horribly precarious (though not that I got it apart, seems rather sturdy), I've found that my old mouse pad does not feel too great on the new desk. The only other mousepad I have? One of my two Going Rogue preorder pads.

So it gave me a sad. :(

But it works nicely, though!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Joshex on February 05, 2013, 05:04:05 AM
%$#& I'm turning into doctor evil...

I foundmyself discussing things of a rather world domination order it was involving some technology... I even started considering hiring evil henchmen..

this is a time I would usually hop on my Mastermind and do something bad like rob a paragon city bank to distract myself from my urge to change the world from it's dark path.

I have no outlet in fiction.. I'm trying to hold onto some manner of ethics and keep myself snapped out of the insane evil genius frame of mind.. but it's just sooo hard....

if I talk abot this with any doctors or anything they'll lock me up for sure.. or put me on medication.. I need CoH and CoV back.. I think I see now why I had no world domination thoughts when CoH was working, I always played as a hero so I felt the cause of justice.

when CoH closed I have no more fiction to push me towards heroic actions, I went through the vigilante mindset of trying to find a way to save the world from the dark path it's following... and then recently... I am shocked to admitt I found myself thinking of building a D-day weapon and threatenning to use it unless certain government organizations paid me millions of dollars..

I have since snapped ot of it and of coarse repented of said thoughts but.. how much longer till I find myself actually building this thing?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 05, 2013, 05:44:38 AM
%$#& I'm turning into doctor evil...

I foundmyself discussing things of a rather world domination order it was involving some technology... I even started considering hiring evil henchmen..

this is a time I would usually hop on my Mastermind and do something bad like rob a paragon city bank to distract myself from my urge to change the world from it's dark path.

I have no outlet in fiction.. I'm trying to hold onto some manner of ethics and keep myself snapped out of the insane evil genius frame of mind.. but it's just sooo hard....

if I talk abot this with any doctors or anything they'll lock me up for sure.. or put me on medication.. I need CoH and CoV back.. I think I see now why I had no world domination thoughts when CoH was working, I always played as a hero so I felt the cause of justice.

when CoH closed I have no more fiction to push me towards heroic actions, I went through the vigilante mindset of trying to find a way to save the world from the dark path it's following... and then recently... I am shocked to admitt I found myself thinking of building a D-day weapon and threatenning to use it unless certain government organizations paid me millions of dollars..

I have since snapped ot of it and of coarse repented of said thoughts but.. how much longer till I find myself actually building this thing?

You might give the Heralds of Valdemar series, written by a wonderful Author named Mercedes Lackey, a shot. I find it to be a very good series, as well as its sequel and prequel series'. Also, the Belgariad and Mallorean series' by David Eddings is good too. That is, if you can manage to tolerate reading books. But then, I've enjoyed reading books since I was in school. So much in fact that I, ironically, failed English in my senior year.

Did you know that, back in the day, homework counted for 60% of your grade and they wouldn't pass you if you didn't do you homework but still made As on the tests?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Joshex on February 05, 2013, 05:58:48 AM
You might give the Heralds of Valdemar series, written by a wonderful Author named Mercedes Lackey, a shot. I find it to be a very good series, as well as its sequel and prequel series'. Also, the Belgariad and Mallorean series' by David Eddings is good too. That is, if you can manage to tolerate reading books. But then, I've enjoyed reading books since I was in school. So much in fact that I, ironically, failed English in my senior year.

Did you know that, back in the day, homework counted for 60% of your grade and they wouldn't pass you if you didn't do you homework but still made As on the tests?

I read lots of books, and enjoy writing., I remember the old days in school, but eventually my teachers figured out I was just lazy when I'd come into class int he morning and do my homework right as the teacher was coming round to collect it then sleep through class and ace the tests..

especially science class.. I scare myself with somethings I know..

I might give the books a shot, though I'm a procrastinator so researching and finding them will be considered a job on my logic table..

maybe I should go back to my old ways like before I found CoH and just sleep all day and night.. at least that way I'm not necessarily thinking anything bad and not trying to build devices..
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Amph on February 05, 2013, 11:49:46 AM
Short and sweet.

8 year, hard core, Vet, but a lurker.  But I still come back, even when there is nothing there.

I so hope that "something" happens to turn the tide and push back this wall of despair.

My lovely wife says things like "get over it, move on", but... that life was so much a part of me, of who I was (and still am), to say good bye for real, for the last time... I will not.  I will instead rely on those stronger, faster, smarter than me, to keep pushing.  I will support, when it is time, with dollars if I have to, as I have no skill (being a consumer), but I do have heart.  And, it still beats...

Conan Unchained, Star Trek Online, DCUniverse, Champions, and (shudders) WoW... tried 'em.  Don't care for 'em.  Conan has been the best as it is SO different, I do not feel any sympathic pain when I play...   Bottom line:  I know what I like, and I can't have it.

Very frustrating.

I just want, what I want, and KNOW that I cant have it.

That is the issue...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on February 05, 2013, 03:04:13 PM
I was reading an old Robert E Howard Sailor Steve Costigan story this morning and one of the english characters yelled at him, "You blawsted Yankee!" and I said to myself holy cow thats another alt I can roll..............and stopped realizing I can't.

It's a shame Blawsted Yankee seemed a damn good name.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on February 05, 2013, 05:45:27 PM
I think that only now is it starting to sink in, that CoX is really, truly gone forever - or at least, for years and years and years.

We KNEW these things since last August. We knew it was coming, and we were upset.

But NOW: afterward. We are stripped of our wings, of our capes and dumped flightless outside of the closed gates to Paragon by a truly unbeatable archvillain. We cannot re-enter. We will probably never re-enter. We look around and realize that there is nothing to do but walk somewheres else on our own all-too-human feet. AND IT SUCKS. Before, this was an academic realization but now it is REAL.

Seeking psychiatric help for an honest loss is not going to help much, IMO. They're going to put you on an anti-depressant that's going to make you gain weight - talk about more depression. Such drugs are a bandage over an unhealed wound - that drug is not going to get us the City and the Isles back.

This game deserves all of my grief. Nor do i want a psych diagnosis on my medical history... I would only suggest psychiatric help if someone is truly suicidal over this; I hope this isn't an issue for anyone.

"Night splits and the dawn breaks loose. [We], through the terrible novelty of light, stalk on, stalk on. This is not the kind of world in which comfort is to be sought or expected." - Richard Adams.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on February 05, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
The very best way to handle loss? Channel your sadness, anger and hurt into creativity.

Take those characters you made and draw, paint and write about them. Use them and expand them and make them grow, if the game returns soon - you can continue with new stories to tell.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 05, 2013, 11:23:38 PM
How am i handling the loss?  Two words, Not Good.  Ever played Dynasty Warriors?  I had a Goateeg.  It now looks like Guan Yu's beard.  I got drunk the other night wrapped a bed sheet around my neck and went to the bar wishing it was pocket D.  I stood at a train station wondering why I couldn't find the train to Atlas.  Every time i hear the word Positive it sounds like Positron and I cry.  I go up to random people and ask if they want to form a league.  Don't even get me started on what happens when I see an image or hear a sound bite from the game.  I think the term is regression.  I making strides, but it's not looking good.
Dear Joshua,
Thank you for writing in reply to my email inquiry that what you posted here was what in the old days of the amateur press associations (APA's) we called a "hoax zine" aka  a joke!  Well, you got me right good!  Kudos!  I think Ashton Kutcher would say I've been "punk'd."  No prob, man.  Glad you're alright.  Take good care.   8)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on February 05, 2013, 11:51:02 PM
The very best way to handle loss? Channel your sadness, anger and hurt into creativity.

Take those characters you made and draw, paint and write about them. Use them and expand them and make them grow, if the game returns soon - you can continue with new stories to tell.

I am going to do just that, just as soon as I can look at my main and not tear up. I want to do a big, detailed painting of my main, a Dark/dark Defender, in the Tar Patch casting animation.... just as soon as looking at him does not make me cry. I have it all planned out in my head.

I'd like to paint some of my other characters as well.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on February 05, 2013, 11:57:18 PM
"The very best way to handle loss? Channel your sadness, anger and hurt into creativity."

Anti-NCSoft memes -- my anti-depressant of choice.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on February 06, 2013, 03:21:39 PM
I will be purchasing the Hero Engine software soon as I am not getting a reply back from from Cryptic. I then am going to be working on an idea I had in relation to a kid friendly game that is in the same vein as City of Heroes. I will post more once I get the licensing and copywrite stuff and trademarking in place.

I could easily see someone usurping my idea if I floated it out in the public at this time.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on February 07, 2013, 02:08:10 AM
http://secretworldchronicle.com/ (http://secretworldchronicle.com/)

Free FREE FREE podcast series based on characters created in CoH.  Also, if you prefer to buy the books, volumes 1 and 2 are out from Baen Books (a division of Simon and Schuster)

Secret World Chronicles: Book One: INVASION!
Secret World Chronicles: Book Two: World Divided
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 07, 2013, 05:58:45 AM
http://secretworldchronicle.com/ (http://secretworldchronicle.com/)

Free FREE FREE podcast series based on characters created in CoH.  Also, if you prefer to buy the books, volumes 1 and 2 are out from Baen Books (a division of Simon and Schuster)

Secret World Chronicles: Book One: INVASION!
Secret World Chronicles: Book Two: World Divided
Frankentrain's creator is impatiently awaiting the next installment of Secret World Chronicles.
She's actually taken to doing (gasp) work stuff at home.  The Horror!!!  :P
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Noyjitat on February 07, 2013, 07:03:11 AM
Every game i've quit playing in the past has been due to normal reasons. Developers ruined it from stupid updates or eventually just got bored. All of the games I get bored with I am eventually able to come back though. This is the 2nd game to get shutdown that I wasn't ready to quit playing although the other atleast has very active emulated server.

I am at this point not handling the loss very well with CoX. Every Friday/weekend that I am reminded that I can no longer host an msr just makes it that much more painful.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 07, 2013, 07:24:24 AM
http://secretworldchronicle.com/ (http://secretworldchronicle.com/)

Free FREE FREE podcast series based on characters created in CoH.  Also, if you prefer to buy the books, volumes 1 and 2 are out from Baen Books (a division of Simon and Schuster)

Secret World Chronicles: Book One: INVASION!
Secret World Chronicles: Book Two: World Divided
Nifty and AWESOME SAUCE!!!!!!!!!  Spreadin' the word!   8)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: MWRuger on February 07, 2013, 07:24:51 AM
Dear TheDevilYouKnow,  A very hardworking friend once reminded me "work to live, not live to work/"  If I don't speak sedition or heresy, may i with respect for your process suggest letting more joy in?  For me that's books, music and movies, silly card games with friends or just hanging out.  Or adding a photography or art class (ungraded, just for fun), go or learn dancing, just something fun that you've never done before but have thought would be nifty, e.g. archery, tai chi, etc. etc. etc.

Thank you john for thinking of me I do appreciate it. I hadn't realized how much i actually missed CoH. I watched the City of Heroes Remains. It was beautiful and heart wrenching.

I didn't actually realize how narrow my world had become. I've had tough times before, I just didn't think losing CoH would trigger one.

But, I am trying. I'm involved in The Phoenix Project, which I do enjoy. I have started reading comics again I am trying to get the gray out.  :)

 But again, thanks for thinking of me. It helps restore my faith in the basic goodness that I believe exists in people.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 07, 2013, 12:14:44 PM
Thank you john for thinking of me I do appreciate it. I hadn't realized how much i actually missed CoH. I watched the City of Heroes Remains. It was beautiful and heart wrenching.

I didn't actually realize how narrow my world had become. I've had tough times before, I just didn't think losing CoH would trigger one.

But, I am trying. I'm involved in The Phoenix Project, which I do enjoy. I have started reading comics again I am trying to get the gray out.  :)

 But again, thanks for thinking of me. It helps restore my faith in the basic goodness that I believe exists in people.

Aww, Man, you are so very welcome!  While I applaud Mercedes, Larry, Rae, Quinch and all of Team Wildcard as well as the other Titans here in their/our diligent efforts to get CoH restored, my focus has been elsewhere.  Truly, I never expected to know the sort of personal misery I knew during the three months leading up to CoH server shutdown nor in the weeks and months that followed.  I started playing M.A.R. Barker's Empire of the Petal Throne at age 14 and quickly added D&D, miniatures and SPI/Avalon Hill board games etc. when the "cool kids" aka college students at the local University permitted us high schoolers to join them on gaming night at the old student union.  I learned checkers and chess the same week at age 6 when home sick with mumps, and loved all card games eager to be old enough to learn bridge (mom said she'd teach us kids when I was 14 and did) and of course I grew up playing Monopoly, Risk, etc, back when cardboard, paper and dice was all games were. (My Monopoly board game had metal player pieces, and my Risk game had painted wooden pieces  not plastic.)  For "electronic" games there was Hasbro's Lite-Brite where we kids used the pegs as Star Ships and imagined space battles rather than making pictures in the 1960s.

Gaming campaigns came and went; I and many of my friends "invented" our own gaming systems and created maps, based loosely on D&D and I "borrowed" (read: stole virtually wholecloth all of Ursual K. LeGuin's "Wizard of Earthsea" series for my own tabletop game for the amusement of gaming friends when a sophomore in high school, trying to create my own languages, even as Tolkien had, tho LOL that was long before I considered how silly that was for me at 15 when he published after being an Oxford scholar and professor of Old and Middle English.)

In my late teens and early 20's gaming was my social life, introducing me to people who've become lifelong friends (yeah we still email and phone but almost never game together, while others i lost contact with long ago but still think of them upon occasion. BTW a couple of them met success as pro fantasy authors.)  My mid-twenties was mostly about work and dating, but I got into social and even briefly tournament bridge (Susan and I  took 3rd place in the open 49'ers at the St. Paul Winter Carnival; not bad for our first year).  Besides bridge and the collaborative storytelling of gaming provided hours of cheap entertainment.  My life path was such I dropped out of college, tho I tried to reboot it a time or four, but eventually lucked into a job and promotion that utilized most of my skills and I was "home" as staff assisting faculty and an academic dean, honored to be permitted to help in some small way the work I so admired. (I'd had dreams of being a professor and/or novelist and even had "delusions of pre-med" my first couple of years, but frankly I lack the aptitude for math and science when there are others so much better gifted.)

Late 20's I needed a fresh start and left my beloved twin cities for a fresh start in Colorado.  I had but one friend when I moved there, a dear lady still a friend (Misty knows  her) who introduced me to her circle of gaming friends who not only played home-rules modified AD&D but they'd also invented LARP (IFGS or International Fantasy Gaming Society), and thanks to my involvement in the Minnesota Science Fiction Fan Club and our annual regional convention (Minicon) was home once again and gaming.  LARP gaming in IFGS was very different from tabletop campaigns or the 1990's World of Darkness LARP campaigns of Kindred and Garou (dark fantasy was never my personal cup of tea and it took my IFGS pals into it over 3 years to get me to try it, tho naturally not long to embrace it (pun intended) once I had.)  The point is, see, I had seen all sorts of games come and go, even those I had loved.  My friends and I (i visited by phone with 2 just tonight) still regale one another of the fun times we had in this or that game, remembering this or that occurrence, characters we'd loved playing, etc., so even with City of Heroes sunset impending, I just didn't expect it to get to me and certainly not to the extent it did.  I literally wept off and on for two weeks, until Salli, one of my MMORGP-savvy buddies told me at her apartment 1. how she'd have felt had the first Guild Wars MMO gotten pulled before she was done with it; and 2. that I was a wreck and to pull myself together.  Unlike some, perhaps many here, I have gotten really great outside support from loving friends, even LOL at age 52 from my mom who doesn't get it exactly, save that it's loss and even so she's sympathetic and moreso from S-F friends I didn't game with but who knew gaming, e.g. my friend Peter who told me the night before our last 24 hours in-game in CoH to just stay up - we'd both pulled all-nighters at S-F conventions - and he'd "sleep for me" and to game.  (Man, i love my friends!)

Okay, I'm guilty.  Victoria Victrix may pin my ears back.  I wrote and mailed only TWO letters to Disney.  I still haven't written Colbert Nation.  I have commented and Thanked the Media every chance I saw (Thank you, Rae, Quinch and others.)  I do post regularly to SG's guildportal pages where former CoH colleagues/friends still check in.  One SG has moved on to DDO, but I just can't get into it. I mean, I could but I just won't let myself. It's not that the game's rotten, it's that I don't wanna go thru MMO shutdown again.  The other SG is scattered, each off playing his or her own new MMO or nothing at all.  Myself, I've opted for nothing.  For me, baby, it's CoH or nothing! (at least for now)  So, I've gone back to reading, picked up my old LiveJournal blog (old RL friends are still there as well as internet friends I met there, kinda picking up as if I hadn't gone into a "MMO Coma" as one pal put it describing his return to LJ after his MMO got nixed.)  I still cannot derive any enjoyment from gaming - tho I hope you do - instead I'm back to my email grassroots political activism, signing e-petitions, writing or telephoning my State reps and Senators and even on occasion the White House (yeah, I have CREDO mobile, and yeah, I am a Socialist-GREEN.)  I've taken the little bit of money I spent on CoH and added a tiny bit to it to contribute to what I consider the most worthy of all worthy causes asking for money (for me that's Sierra Club and Save the Children.)  I still have not heard back from Melissa Bianco, but maybe the ether ate the one e-mail I sent her.  I've tried Facebook twice (I can't keep up; I can't stand it) and joined Twitter one weekend so as to Tweet to Charlie Sheen that looked to be in the midst of a bipolar manic episode. (See, i also have friends, dear gentle loving people, who also have scary sounding diagnoses like schizophrenia, schizo-affective disorder, bipolar, ADHD, etc. but been friends with them for years and thus know their characters (not toons))

Maybe Ms. Bianco didn't write me back 'cause I sounded looney (or eep maybe was).  Sorry for unloading all this here on you, DevilYouKnow and Titan Network friends, but just last Friday an old IFGS gamer buddy passed away and he was only 60, a really good guy who separated in-game from out-of-game really well (some don't), his politics (he's a Nixon Republican and attorney so you can imagine if you will our intellectually impassioned discussions on politics. Long story short: similar to identical values with opposite ideas about how society might achieve them.  We'd not only gamed together but given years of volunteer service to the not-for-profit LARP club.)  Thus the old circle of IFGS LARP friends, the IFGS family as Kathy calls us, will gather this Friday at 2 p.m. Colorado Mountain Time for his memorial service - and your prayers for his family are most welcome.

Meanwhile I have become LOL a "silver surfer" loving that term for referencing Marvel's Noran Radd, catching up on technology most of you already know quite well, e.g. Skype and surfing youtube videos and lately have been grooving on stuff (imo) far superior to commercial and cable TV;e.g. TED Talks. Here's a couple of links:

Let me introduce to you a kid who I think will be a new Stephen Hawking or even Albert Einstein; in his own words, Jacob Barnett:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-FOOQ1TpE  OMG! Soon to be Dr. Barnett is diagnosed with autism?! His video sure changed the way I thought about that condition.  (I hear that Temple Grandin's story is equally amazing tho I have not yet seen either Claire Dane's portrayal or Temple Grandin's videos.)

One probably can't tell it from how I spout off here that I'm any sort of Introvert, but check out this lady, Susan Cain's "the power of introverts" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0KYU2j0TM4

And for anyone who's ever questioned their own unique sexuality/gender/preference (raises hand) check out Tillett Wright's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAJ-5J21Rd0  (tho I suspect 50 shades isn't enough but more like 100 million or more)

Again, apologies for spouting off and taking up a lot of space.  I was school taught to use 500 or more words, not 500 characters, so you can imagine how it is when I attempt to comment on youtube vids! LMAO

Anyhow, I think it's great you're doing the Phoenix Project.  I have twinges of guilt for not assisting that or Heroes & Villains.  I can't even get my own 72 year old mother who has the funds to buy a second computer just so she can see TED Talks etc. because she's afraid of the internet, and Identity Theft, etc., tho her younger women friends have shown her Kindle and smart phones etc.   I also have a real appreciation now at my age of 52 for how my grandparents felt when the world and technology changed around them; ditto for the professors I worked with at a teaching college the semester they all had to divert their attention three times away from teaching to learn some new technology to make their lives "easier" and if any here remember the debacle called Windows 95 they'll know why the profs wanted to hurls those computers at out the window. (I still chuckle remembering Monica a Math Prof. who during a supposedly open collegial discussion wherein the VP for I.T. was presenting a slick PowerPoint demo, steered towards his goals, switching on the lights in the classroom where we met, grabbing a piece of chalk from the blackboard and saying "we're going low tech" so as to have a truly open and not funneled group discussion.)

Well this is likely more than enough rambling, the point is there is a WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD we are each part of.  Sure the internet is great!  I love how I.T. brings together and creates communities of people from around a once-distant globe.  Honestly kids, go climb some trees, or grab a ball, or a stick and twine, use your imaginations!  I'll close with my memory of an old New Yorker magazine cartoon (maybe by Booth); in it there's a young suited well-groomed TV salesman to whom the little tiny lady of the house replies (and this is the caption) "Thank you, young man, but I don't need that. I already have a fireplace."  If you don't get the joke, you need to spend some time in nature on an overnight camping trip (imo.)  Peace out.  Sorry for the Walls o' Text.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 08, 2013, 11:19:50 AM
I don't exactly regret what I said in my earlier post (above) but wish to soften the ranting tone.  When handling loss and grief over anything i look for the "silver linings" some of which are Golden Opportunities towards personal growth.

Sorry for all my words.  I was raised and taught to Scale Walls of Text and even (sadly) to write that way.  Peace out.
My musical thoughts this day are best expressed here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bch1_Ep5M1s
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 08, 2013, 11:55:51 AM
I can't believe I missed seeing this earlier and now am all weepy again.  Thank you, Tim, Samuraiko, Leandro.  /em holdtorch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC3tseY-ic0
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on February 08, 2013, 04:47:36 PM
Great video.  Heartening, but saddening, too.  I miss the City.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on February 09, 2013, 01:25:47 AM
Frankentrain's creator is impatiently awaiting the next installment of Secret World Chronicles.
She's actually taken to doing (gasp) work stuff at home.  The Horror!!!  :P

Since this is opaque to the rest of you, at the 2012 Real World Heroes auction one of my donations was to get your toon written up with a heroic and epic death in SWC 3.  Frankentrain's creator won the auction, and has been immortalized in the SWC 'verse.  Partly, at least, for flapping his lip when he should have kept it closed.

"He's right behind me, isn't he?"

"Yes I am, Frankentrain..."
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 09, 2013, 04:33:38 AM
I hope you're feeling better from your bout with influenza. That stuff has been making a nation-wide (if not world-wide) assault on everyone this year.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on February 09, 2013, 08:01:53 AM
Guh! I miss flying so much. I'm starting to have dreams about my winged heroes now.

I may have to install CO or DCU just to survive. Madness! Somebody stop me.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyShin on February 09, 2013, 10:27:19 AM
Guh! I miss flying so much. I'm starting to have dreams about my winged heroes now.

I may have to install CO or DCU just to survive. Madness! Somebody stop me.

Champions Online....ALERT!!!!   ;D


To be honest, the most entertaining part of CO, I think would be the character creator - I like the options that are at my disposal. However.... It's glitchy, sometimes I'm able to use premium-content costumes, other times the basic ones are locked.  :o
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on February 09, 2013, 02:52:33 PM
I can create a character in CO about half the time.  The rest of the time I get all the way through the process and get "Character creation failed" at the end.  No explanation why.  I'm not overly enthusiastic about creating new characters in CO anyway (due to feeling that they're all the same, unlike CoH where a new character really felt new), but that kills what little altitis I have.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: HEATSTROKE on February 09, 2013, 05:59:13 PM
I have no interest in playing CO. To me thats like washing your feet with your socks on..
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyShin on February 09, 2013, 08:15:43 PM
I can create a character in CO about half the time.  The rest of the time I get all the way through the process and get "Character creation failed" at the end.  No explanation why.  I'm not overly enthusiastic about creating new characters in CO anyway (due to feeling that they're all the same, unlike CoH where a new character really felt new), but that kills what little altitis I have.

Sometimes it fails because for some reason it sticks the 'must unlock via purchase' tag on one of your costume selections, whether or not it's premium content.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: General Idiot on February 10, 2013, 09:51:48 AM
It's more that it sometimes forgets which sets you own and which you don't, and random bits will show up as owned when they're not. If you use one, it'll fail to create the character.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironbull on February 10, 2013, 02:04:29 PM
I figured by now I'd have gotten over or even forgotten the desire to play CoH.  Wrong.  I still can vividly bring up pictures in my head.  Not just of my characters, but Zones, NPC's, powers, you get the idea.  I tried to force myself to play CO after swearing I would never touch that game.  Wrong again.  Couldn't do it.  No matter how hard I tried to play and like it, it was like hugging a dead fish.  Just nothing.  Imagine someone taking your High def flat screen and replacing it with a black and white 19 inch with aluminum foil on the rabbit ears.  Ewwww.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on February 10, 2013, 05:05:36 PM
Yeah, I tried to like CO.  I tried for three full months to like it.  And... I don't hate it (and I still think the Gold experience is much better than the Silver), but my characters there feel like tissue paper, every character I've made feels exactly the same, and Cryptic has all but abandoned it in favor of STO and Neverwinter so there's nothing to look forward to.  I canceled my subscription yesterday and don't plan to renew it.

I've gone back to console RPGs, starting with (as I said in another topic) fan-translated SNES RPGs Emerald Dragon (which I just finished a couple of days ago), Tales of Phantasia (which I'm currently playing), Live a Live, and Treasure of the Rudras.

But it doesn't stop me from making new characters in my head and wishing I could play them SOMEWHERE.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyShin on February 10, 2013, 09:11:25 PM
- Looks disconcerted for a moment, panics, and turns suddenly into a refrigerator!

With a poof of smoke, she changes back, and shrugs nonchalantly...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on February 11, 2013, 02:16:25 AM
Well, I'm having to spend so much time with work-related stuff that I don't have time to do much else, really, but I do miss City.  I've even caught myself wanting to play through Oranbega again, of all places, and I hated those maps.

Sigh.  :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on February 11, 2013, 02:25:43 AM
Well, I'm having to spend so much time with work-related stuff that I don't have time to do much else, really, but I do miss City.  I've even caught myself wanting to play through Oranbega again, of all places, and I hated those maps.

Sigh.  :)

I would give up every other game in order to play the Orange Bagel and layercake cave maps again.  And I hated them.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on February 11, 2013, 07:54:00 AM
Right there with you. I'd also give anything to be doing an RP in the streets, and have it screwed up by a NPC civilian that shoves me out of the way, as they're thanking me for whatever deed I'd supposedly done.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on February 11, 2013, 09:13:21 AM
Y'know what pains me? Right now we'd have Bio Armor, Martial Combat and Sorcery. I so wanted to play those sets! Ugh! It's just so frustrating.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on February 11, 2013, 05:10:36 PM
I would give up every other game in order to play the Orange Bagel and layercake cave maps again.  And I hated them.

I don't know what's more depressing -- that I agree with you, or that I read that line and I could see the panorama that appeared on the screen as you stepped through the doorway into the layer-cake room, including where the mobs by the door would be standing.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on February 11, 2013, 05:17:24 PM
Y'know what pains me? Right now we'd have Bio Armor, Martial Combat and Sorcery. I so wanted to play those sets! Ugh! It's just so frustrating.

Tell me about it.  I was just thinking LAST NIGHT of a character that used Martial Combat.

And I had a Titan Weapon/Bio Armor Brute (Yes, loosely based on Nightmare from Soul Calibur) on the Beta server that I didn't really get to play with.  I would have loved to play him (or something similar) on the live servers, because I really liked what I saw of Bio Armor (especially the ability to only show certain parts of the armor; it was essentially another level of costume customization).

Such a horrible shame.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on February 11, 2013, 05:56:25 PM
Tell me about it.  I was just thinking LAST NIGHT of a character that used Martial Combat.

And I had a Titan Weapon/Bio Armor Brute (Yes, loosely based on Nightmare from Soul Calibur) on the Beta server that I didn't really get to play with.  I would have loved to play him (or something similar) on the live servers, because I really liked what I saw of Bio Armor (especially the ability to only show certain parts of the armor; it was essentially another level of costume customization).

Such a horrible shame.

heh, your not the only one who made soul caliber replicates lol, i had a titan weapon toon on live using the fleshy axe and i made him look like astaroth lol, i didnt go with invuln secondary because titan weapons was a massive end hog so i used energy aura for the end drain
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 11, 2013, 08:13:05 PM
heh, your not the only one who made soul caliber replicates lol, i had a titan weapon toon on live using the fleshy axe and i made him look like astaroth lol, i didnt go with invuln secondary because titan weapons was a massive end hog so i used energy aura for the end drain
I had an Electric Armor/Titan Weapon Tank on Infinity named Agent Atomic. He used the Atomic Mace, and was given the nickname of "baby rattle" by a friend I ran with.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on February 11, 2013, 08:18:43 PM
Yeah, if I'd made a Bio Armor character on live, it probably would have been more original, but on the Beta server I didn't spend as much time coming up with concepts or appearances, I just wanted to jump right into the new powersets or content, so I tended to be less creative. :D

Bio Armor was perfect for representing Nightmare's one mutated arm, though.  (I was basing it off ofthe 2P costume from Soul Calibur II (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100302172456/soulcalibur/images/5/58/Soulcalibur2_0425_790screen024.jpeg))
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyShin on February 12, 2013, 12:22:51 AM
 ;D My favorite toon was my Korra look alike, water bender from hell. I got a kick out of air mailing a water glob on the bosses..Good times!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Morvani on February 12, 2013, 05:58:17 AM
The only 'kid' of mine that definitely was influenced by outside popular media, IIRC, was an homage to two Hong Kong action films: Mr. Vampire, and a more obscure film called '2002'. He was a gay, nominally Taoist-ish priest (but knew practices of other faiths - lots of them) who saw dead people. He was also a pretty good excuse for me to practice my abysmal Mandarin.

He referred to himself as a 'concierge in the Green Room of the afterlife'. And he was a lot of fun. I miss him. And the rest of my brain-children.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 12, 2013, 07:07:47 AM
The only 'kid' of mine that definitely was influenced by outside popular media, IIRC, was an homage to two Hong Kong action films: Mr. Vampire, and a more obscure film called '2002'. He was a gay, nominally Taoist-ish priest (but knew practices of other faiths - lots of them) who saw dead people. He was also a pretty good excuse for me to practice my abysmal Mandarin.

He referred to himself as a 'concierge in the Green Room of the afterlife'. And he was a lot of fun. I miss him. And the rest of my brain-children.
Well, the characters I miss number in the dozens. There's Agent Standin, Arbiter Pinny, Arilou, Dark Dave, Emerald Radiant, Tanker Belle, Tan'Ker, Steel Point, Unit 452, Master E, Agent Electron, Cog Caster, Sasyk, Nano Crusader, Serenity Dark, Dark Anarchy, Captain Wrong (and his Wrongbots), and just about the entire roster of the Bouquet of Roses super group and Roses Gone Wild villain group.

Yeah, I was a bit of an Altaholic...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on February 12, 2013, 08:37:26 AM
I still feel like 'something' is missing from my life. There have been times when I could have really used 'heading into the City' to help my head and heart. It was that way for eight years....a place to celebrate, a place to vent, a place to be creative, a place to share with friends and a place to be a 'me' I could never be in real life. How long will I feel this way?

(https://i.imgur.com/YtWO2Kj.gif)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyShin on February 13, 2013, 12:57:12 AM
I still feel like 'something' is missing from my life. There have been times when I could have really used 'heading into the City' to help my head and heart. It was that way for eight years....a place to celebrate, a place to vent, a place to be creative, a place to share with friends and a place to be a 'me' I could never be in real life. How long will I feel this way?

(https://i.imgur.com/YtWO2Kj.gif)

Silverfish hand catch.  8)

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_hH64Gx9A4Rc%2FTJ5Otl4Sg-I%2FAAAAAAAABg4%2Fn0uNICaXd0Q%2Fs400%2F300_mustafe_isaiah_lc_071510.jpg)

There you go, all better.  ;)


..But really, know how you feel there.


And, I'm on a horse.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: no hero on February 13, 2013, 11:43:31 AM
How are you handling the loss?

Drugs.
Mind altering, Depression numbing, Chemical balancing, Edge taking off Drugs.
Legally prescribed Drugs in the manner they are intended, but still
Drugs.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Morvani on February 13, 2013, 02:41:34 PM
Not well. 2012 was a very bad year for me. It started off with my grandmother dying, my cat becoming extremely ill, and my husband going in for a two week stay at the hospital due to aspiration pneumonia, with all the attendant bills, some of which we're still paying. It ended with CoH being taken away, and me making the decision to put my cat down due to stomach cancer.

This year hasn't been much better. Hubby is once again in the hospital for aspiration pneumonia, this time staying in for five weeks (so far). Mom-in-law is also in the hospital for a malady they can't pin down. Dad has been laid off his job at age 61. I've been dealing with a stubborn infection.

I very, very badly want to go home to Paragon, after all this. Hang out in Founders Falls with Trey, or Gemini Park with Parz. Go see Cape shows in Atlas Park. Heck, even run an old Posi TF, or (heavens help meh) Quaterfield.

I am, however, going to visit the local Humane Society today, to see about starting the process to adopt a cat. So that's a plus.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Quinch on February 13, 2013, 02:43:45 PM
I am, however, going to visit the local Humane Society today, to see about starting the process to adopt a cat.

Haven't you suffered enough?

Only joking, but of course...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Morvani on February 13, 2013, 03:12:37 PM
Haven't you suffered enough?

Only joking, but of course...

Heh. Renfield was actually an exceptional cat, and we miss him terribly. We had him for sixteen years. He was very much a Velcro cat; if he wasn't directly on my lap or on my husband's legs, he'd be very close by. He purred readily (sometimes all I'd have to do was look at him), and he listened whenever I asked him to move on the bed so I could put hubby in it. He'd sometimes take wheelchair rides on hubby's lap while I pushed him around the house. He still had his claws, but only used them on the scratching post. (Okay, sometimes he'd use them on the wheels of hubby's chair, but he'd stop when I told him to.) He'd wake me up in the morning to feed him, sometimes, by tapping my cheek lightly with his paw, no claws. He was scary smart, but not in a destructive way. When we had Vladimir, our German Shepherd (passed in 07 due to metastatic cancer in his chest), the two got on very well, sometimes even napping together. I'll leave you to guess who got the bigger share of the dogbed space. On the (more frequent than I'd like) occasions when hubby has gone into the hospital, Reni was my only company at home.

Little story about him: When we first got Reni, he was a stray, found running across Mom-in-law's yard shortly after Smokey, our first GSD, was put down due to failing health. We weren't certain of his behavior, so we locked him in the back bathroom at night, with his food and litter box. The bathroom door wasn't a standard door; it was a folding one with louvers, and about an inch gap between the bottom of it and the floor. Reni did not like this confinement. However, instead of yowling all night, spraying, or scratching the crap out of the door, he found another method to express his displeasure. He dug his *ahem* spoor out of the litterbox, and shot it underneath the bathroom door, through the mud room, and out into the kitchen. Where, the next morning, hubby's aunt (who we were living with) stepped on it.

We called it Reni's 'hat trick'. He never got locked in the bathroom overnight again, and we never had any behavior problems with him.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on February 13, 2013, 03:46:07 PM
I lost my sealpoint Birman the weekend of the announcement. Really dreadful weekend.

Found at the shelter a lovely, random black kitten to replace her. Turns out he's -- amazingly enough, a Bombay, which is a cross between my former cats, a Birman and a Brit shorthair. How's that for destiny?

He's helped a lot, exccccccccccccccccccc__________________============ept when he walks on the keyboard.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JWBullfrog on February 13, 2013, 05:41:27 PM
Well, I've decided to keep the City alive in my own way. I keep writing. If you're interested follow the link below.
 
Keep the faith Paragonners.
 
http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7929.0.html (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7929.0.html)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on February 14, 2013, 09:38:30 AM
I slightly rewrote Bella's final story, removing the City references and polishing it.

http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7170.0.html (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7170.0.html)

It will be appearing in the anthology "When The Hero Comes Home 2" with a forward about how NCSoft murdered my character.

This is what the editor had to say.

"Thank you again for the beautiful, touching story you submitted to When the Hero Comes Home 2. We loved it, and would be honored to include it in the anthology!"

The start of the revenge.

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kuriositys Kat on February 14, 2013, 10:50:22 AM
*opens tab to Amazon* er  I may have jumped the gun, when is anthology due out? 

 I will be very interested in reading the  published version, just to see how you changed it from the source. * note to self  make sure to have  box of tissues on hand and pot of tea.*

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 14, 2013, 01:30:59 PM
Not well. 2012 was a very bad year for me. It started off with my grandmother dying, my cat becoming extremely ill, and my husband going in for a two week stay at the hospital due to aspiration pneumonia, with all the attendant bills, some of which we're still paying. It ended with CoH being taken away, and me making the decision to put my cat down due to stomach cancer.

This year hasn't been much better. Hubby is once again in the hospital for aspiration pneumonia, this time staying in for five weeks (so far). Mom-in-law is also in the hospital for a malady they can't pin down. Dad has been laid off his job at age 61. I've been dealing with a stubborn infection.

I very, very badly want to go home to Paragon, after all this. Hang out in Founders Falls with Trey, or Gemini Park with Parz. Go see Cape shows in Atlas Park. Heck, even run an old Posi TF, or (heavens help meh) Quaterfield.

I am, however, going to visit the local Humane Society today, to see about starting the process to adopt a cat. So that's a plus.
I am truly sorry for the loss of your grandmother; may i offer condolences and a prayer for you and yours?  It seems like 2012 was a difficult year for so many people.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Morvani on February 15, 2013, 04:29:03 AM
I am truly sorry for the loss of your grandmother; may i offer condolences and a prayer for you and yours?  It seems like 2012 was a difficult year for so many people.

Thank you, and yeah, it was. Hubby is finally home, though. Now, to -keep- him there...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on February 15, 2013, 05:40:04 AM
Johnrobey is a class act. He offered me kind words when I need them. I regret never getting to play with him when our game was active.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 15, 2013, 07:24:23 AM
Johnrobey is a class act. He offered me kind words when I need them. I regret never getting to play with him when our game was active.
I agree. He is a class act. An example many people could do well to follow. I'm not saying anyone here is a horrible person...just that he's a good example of the way this CoH community should be.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on February 15, 2013, 11:16:37 PM
I also agree that JR is a wonderful person. Though I have never met him, I'd consider it an honor to be among his friends.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 15, 2013, 11:31:31 PM
Thank you both for such kind words
but we must not feed my vanity and
ego/sense of self/selfimporance/selfawareness too much
only little tidbits
as treats for good behavior (LOL)
while Compassion and Respect
have to flow like two greate mightie rivers nourishing all.

i Silver Surfer'd into a song from my youth:   it's "Chicago" by Crosby, Stills, Graham Nash, & Young and wrote this:  I was born in 1960; i was 8 when that song was on the radio (i resonate/feel inner inspiration when i hear this song.) I've been partially deaf since i was a child so i neither heard nor understood many of the lyrics merely that this was about struggle, overcoming, and making it better: it's an empassioned plea. Some find the tones too strident, but i still find the images disturbing. May the Light of Compassion never fail.  This is why we need a City of Heroes.  City of Villains is great! For where better to experiment with evil than in a game or other fiction.   So are we Primal or Praetorian or both or all three (CoV).  em/holdtorch  to my friends both to the Left and the Right of the political spectrum may the healing begin:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEFsBF1X1ow  it's almost as if the cortex and hindbrain were getting together for a  long awaited second date *grin*
pardon, Titans, my effusions of silliness .  apologies if this song is too strong   Hoping another can find the more suitable tone(s)  Thank you
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 15, 2013, 11:35:50 PM
I also agree that JR is a wonderful person. Though I have never met him, I'd consider it an honor to be among his friends.
Hugs, Healix!  I think we're all friends on Titan - i mean I feel we're all friends on Titan
Pardon my imprecision with language
but hey, at 52, i'm still a kid  ;)
and kinda waiting for the grownups to take my concerns seriously
Thank goodness the Newest Generations are so bright
talented and wonder - they even seem to have figured out how to play together well.

Forward into the Future!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on February 16, 2013, 12:06:07 AM
JR!

(https://i.imgur.com/iTc9wez.gif)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 16, 2013, 12:15:31 AM
JR!

(https://i.imgur.com/iTc9wez.gif)
I'm so silly, Healix!  I love our interconnected posts:  Here's your hug reflected in song:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EegRh8Z4H-o
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on February 16, 2013, 12:19:52 AM
Wow...and I AM an Aquarian! (Jan. 22nd!!!)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 16, 2013, 01:08:52 AM
Wow...and I AM an Aquarian! (Jan. 22nd!!!)
Well now how is that for Mystical!  (My dear friend Maureen's favorite word)

Anyhow, i finally found the words i'm looking for and how ironic the words are Korean!  http://www.ted.com/talks/young_ha_kim_be_an_artist_right_now.html?utm_source=newsletter_daily&utm_campaign=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_content=button__2013-02-15

I'm changing my CoH global to: Serendipity rules my life - tho i remain tempted to borrow yours, Healix, re: having most of nothing.  I recall Buddhist scriptures (sutra) on the quality of Nothing and Nothingness.  I adore the T.E.D. Talks on youtube.  Non Sequiturian Society forever!!  /em holdtorch
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: IceCicle78245 on February 16, 2013, 05:37:18 AM
Hello everyone, I'm Scott.  I'm new here to the Titan Forums; though I've played City of Heroes since the later part of the Beta Testing in February 2004, and I was there until the end.  Alot of people knew me as IceCicle, Aeon, Icarian, along with other alts.  As for what I've been doing since the end of CoH (other than play CO & STO) is work on a project that I've discussed with some as a way to keep our characters alive (outside CoH Cannon).  And very soon, hopefully in the coming week, I will be ready to unveil what it is.  I hope it is something that many of you will not only enjoy, but may want to participate in. 

I'm sorry I haven't visited here sooner.  I have alot of catching up to do as far as the Community here goes.  But in doing so, I hope I can offer something that will be enjoyed by many.

Take care everyone.  See you soon!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ashen Fury on February 16, 2013, 06:13:41 AM
So...I just accidentally clicked on an old bookmark...took me to the coh website. Pissy feelings came right back in a heartbeat. Sigh.

Also, I will gladly join the JR lovetrain. You messaged me right after the shutdown and chatted with me about it, it was really nice and something that I really needed. I'm glad we got to play together a bunch of times before the shutdown.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on February 16, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
Hello everyone, I'm Scott.  I'm new here to the Titan Forums

*waves* Howdy! Welcome to the nuthouse forums :D



Also, there's a lovetrain for JR? I'll hop on! I barely know the guy and I like him.

*emails johnrobey a lovely gift basket of flavored teas*
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 16, 2013, 03:30:15 PM
*waves* Howdy! Welcome to the nuthouse forums :D



Also, there's a lovetrain for JR? I'll hop on! I barely know the guy and I like him.

*emails johnrobey a lovely gift basket of flavored teas*
*thank you for the gift of teas that just arrived*   How ever did you know?  ;)  *munches absently on a few nuts; today i like almonds*  Thanks SG Titans for the love; i think i must have (and do) really need it - things are as they say "medically interesting" for me at the present moment, tho not life-threatening merely "interesting" - and yeah i have actual diagnoses and even medications for some of it.  Thus far 52 has been an interesting year that included a 3-month of warning then watching a world end; so my diversion after CoH sunset has been thinking about the environment(s) on our one shared planet and how it might all somehow be better - hence the meds for helping me think not too much.  If i were more advanced in Meditation i might not even need any meds - seriously one MSW i knew thought in the future all medicine/medical assistance would  involve a "prescription" meditation referred to by the Buddhists as mindfulness tho in the West i think we just call this simple "consideration"; and meditation, per se, (per a Satguru from India) is merely what one chooses to pay attention to; e.g. watching television is a meditation, even tho the western mind often doesn't think of it this way.  Anyhow for physiological reasons i might have the attention span at times of a fruitfly--but no worries, i have followup appointments with pro's next week.  Like the one wise lady said once "Compassion is the answer to everything."  (Apologies if i am quoting V.V. out of context 'cause i think remember that a theme in more than one of her novels.)  My interpretation may be off and/or i may be misremembering but that was the message i got when reading Magic's Price and Magic's Pawn.  Let me shamelessly (meaning without fear) plug one of our great(est) leaders here on Titan:  http://www.mercedeslackey.com/biblio_series.html  http://www.mercedeslackey.com/  I really recommend her novels highly; the work(s) of her artist-husband Larry Dixon, and i Thank TITAN NETWORK and TonyV for introduction to Rae, the Quinch, all of Team Wildcard, and each and all of you amazing people!  What the children and adults of all ages have been able to accomplish truly amaze me.  I'm currently meditating/contemplating:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FXv7Da0ueso  with renewed respects and best regards to Samuraiko/Michelle T./D_R  As per the homosexual agenda i'm enjoined to "Be *FABULOUS*"   Man, i hope i am up to the task.  Have a super day!!
/em holdtorch

P.S. Where is June Larkin? or maybe i'm thinking of Alan and/or a different June.  Best wishes for a beautiful day - remember to let your inner light shine where it matters most on the inside - and as Heroes we can each of us make a positive difference we have yet to realize (or as i prefer to think of it) to actualize.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 16, 2013, 04:02:22 PM
Apologies if I posted this before.  Just like with books, music and film i often repeat watch that which has special meaning for me.  I think the ideas presented in the video are nifty:  http://www.ted.com/talks/young_ha_kim_be_an_artist_right_now.html?utm_source=newsletter_daily&utm_campaign=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_content=button__2013-02-15

I also really love this presentation:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0KYU2j0TM4  (omg! if this lady is shy, i want to learn how to be shy in the manner she is)

Please feel free, dear Moderator,  if I am posting too much and/or duplicating what's been said before.  Thank you for your moderation.   :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on February 17, 2013, 11:27:07 AM
*blushes and hides*   
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TonyV on February 17, 2013, 01:14:46 PM
Please feel free, dear Moderator,  if I am posting too much and/or duplicating what's been said before.  Thank you for your moderation.   :)

Nope, you're posting exactly the right amount!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on February 17, 2013, 02:42:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KRxeTOW.jpg)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 18, 2013, 03:23:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KRxeTOW.jpg)
First, fellow Titans, a heartfelt Thank You from my limbic system!  <3  (my attempt at a heart graphic  - which reminds me of a young child's drawing that might be a horse or a dog or a cow, but clearly has 4 limbs, a head and a tail *wink*)

TonyV, sir, you know you're only encouraging me - consider this fair warning.   ;)

Ms. Victrix, dear Victoria, i should warn you that I've let the genie out of the bottle and Allison Springs, one of your very truest most ardent fans will soon be listening to the podcasts on http://secretworldchronicle.com/ if she hasn't already started.  (I am a "bad" fan in that I am presently unable to keep up; really I have to limit my brain today to what stimulus i give it, but I mentioned your nifty podcast in consortium with Baen Publishing to an author who has a finished manuscript that her editor has decided isn't quite "young adult" even tho Pamela thinks Y.A. is where it fits, but tells me the publishing industry is changing/has changed and that anything too long or even vaguely challenging is presently not thought suitable for young adults.  I gather J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series might have trouble being published today under the present climate.  Color me surprised!

Dear Healix, may I borrow (read: copy) that graphic for personal use?  It expresses true love so perfectly!  I would like to send that to several friends and might also like to use that as my computer's background wallpaper.

To everyone else here on Titan, Thank you for the recent "love train"; it really made getting thru this latest adversity much nicer;  therefore, I'd like to encourage everyone to hope on board and keep the love going strong; i can't yet make kewl graphical images so here's a song, a blast from my past:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQvmCzILBfE  "Love Train" by The O'Jays (HQ) with lyrics (tho LOL my comp isnt showing me any lyrics.)

For those who can see stand to view the 1970's unfiltered by animations and avatars here it is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CqS_NjIHH0
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 18, 2013, 06:19:51 AM
Hello everyone, I'm Scott.  I'm new here to the Titan Forums; though I've played City of Heroes since the later part of the Beta Testing in February 2004, and I was there until the end.  Alot of people knew me as IceCicle, Aeon, Icarian, along with other alts.  As for what I've been doing since the end of CoH (other than play CO & STO) is work on a project that I've discussed with some as a way to keep our characters alive (outside CoH Cannon).  And very soon, hopefully in the coming week, I will be ready to unveil what it is.  I hope it is something that many of you will not only enjoy, but may want to participate in. 

I'm sorry I haven't visited here sooner.  I have alot of catching up to do as far as the Community here goes.  But in doing so, I hope I can offer something that will be enjoyed by many.

Take care everyone.  See you soon!
Welcome, Scott.   Very much looking forward to the project you'll be unveiling here on Titan.   Consider yourself caught up, and just dive in.   ;)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 18, 2013, 07:02:03 AM
Johnrobey is a class act. He offered me kind words when I need them. I regret never getting to play with him when our game was active.
ahh, Perfidus, no worries!  We get to play right here on Titan Network forums:  http://www.tubegle.com/great-big-sea-most-recent-folk-rock-videos/  Sea of No Cares by the Great Big Sea.  This isn't the version I used to have on cassette audio tape that Winona made for me sometime during the mid-1990s.

*0VERSHARING ALERT*
I met and became friends with Winona during my first played (and of course best) Vampire: The Masquerade LARP.  (Okay, it had taken traditional Heroic Fantasy LARP friends only 3 years to get me to try this 'cause dark fantasy and Horror genre isn't usually my cup of tea at all.)  As we players discovered during our first gaming session, after having spent 1 month preparing our character backgrounds and working with the game staff/GM's to have our lowbie characters approved.  On GAME IN we learned it was Gehenna! (Vampire Ragnarok!)  Doom! DOOM!  We spent 13 lovely months averting Gehenna, at the end of which the Camarilla Inner Council sent a Justicar who said thanks, oh and by the way this never happened and if you say it did we will call you liars and eat you (literally).  That LARP campaign lasted a few more sessions but then petered out, but that circle of friends remains strong.  We'd already faced the end of the world together.  We played other LARP together, had movie nights, etc.  Four marriages took place that next summer (Allison, the fan i sicced on V.V., who adores all her novels and I think has read all of them, was one of the beautiful brides that summer.  Point being, games come and go; life has a lot of interesting avenues to explore; yet even years later, true friends pick up right where they left off as if there'd been no interruption.  GAME ON!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 18, 2013, 07:09:14 AM
I agree. He is a class act. An example many people could do well to follow. I'm not saying anyone here is a horrible person...just that he's a good example of the way this CoH community should be.
Know that whatever you perceive in my persona as a "good example" is something you yourself either are or can be.  At worst, you simply haven't discovered yet your own Inner Strength (tho I thank City of Heroes for teaching Heroism and Teamwork so well!)

Recently, a lady friend confided she felt nervous about her impending 40th birthday (natal anniversary) in a  few days.  Naturally, i offered her hearty congratulations at achieving four decades and reaching 40th Level.  She'd never thought of it that way before.   ;)

Remember: We always have our Secret Weapon: ROLEPLAYING!!!!   Bwahahaha!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 18, 2013, 07:15:01 AM
I also agree that JR is a wonderful person. Though I have never met him, I'd consider it an honor to be among his friends.
It's far too late, Healix.  I've considered you a True Friend since the first day we met here on Titan Network forums.

I feel equally honored by your friendship and all those here on Titan.  Stay magnificient!  Or as one Great SG Leader said (RL she's a police officer but shhhh!), "Don't ever change - except to become even better!"  Damn, those policewomen are smart!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on February 18, 2013, 07:24:44 AM
http://www.tubegle.com/great-big-sea-most-recent-folk-rock-videos/  Sea of No Cares by the Great Big Sea.  This isn't the version I used to have on cassette audio tape that Winona made for me sometime during the mid-1990s.

Duuuuude. It's always weird when someone who's not from here mentions liking those guys. It still feels like no-one off the island has ever heard of them hehe. Good taste you've got there though, Great Big Sea rocks! :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 18, 2013, 07:31:55 AM
Point being, games come and go; life has a lot of interesting avenues to explore; yet even years later, true friends pick up right where they left off as if there'd been no interruption.  GAME ON!
You are so right about that.

*My turn to over share*
I met the one friend of mine on a small internet chat program called the ImagiNation Network (INN for short). We played Hearts with a couple of her friends, and I learned to type faster trying to keep up with their conversations. INN was bought out by AOL (boo!) and closed down. This friend of mine joined in a  Star Wars PnP RPG campaign. Which was interesting, because my brother and I lived in Oklahoma and she lived in California. We played using an IRC program. A few sessions in, her son decided he wanted to play as well. So, he joined in. Still playing over the internet. We branched out to playing another PnP RPG called Rune Quest. Then, about 6 years after I had met her on INN, I moved out to California with my brother. We've been out here for over 10 years. We all played CoH from 2004 up til it closed. Now, we play Star Wars: The Old Republic. Mainly because we all like Star Wars (Lego, movies, Lego, Action figures, games, and did I mention Lego?), and it reminds us of the group of characters we started when playing the Star Wars PnP RPG. We have never been able to get a party together like that again.

I will say that, although I am sad (still) that INN was closed, I am glad I was able to maintain friendships that I had made there so many years ago. I have made friends on CoH as well. I hope to be able to maintain them for years to come, whether CoH makes a comeback or not.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 18, 2013, 07:40:55 AM
Duuuuude. It's always weird when someone who's not from here mentions liking those guys. It still feels like no-one off the island has ever heard of them hehe. Good taste you've got there though, Great Big Sea rocks! :D
Great Big Sea does indeed rock!!!  I love that entire album!!!!  The first song of their I ever heard was "The Chemical Worker's Song" which still takes my breath away for its lyrical poignancy as well as their acoustic artistry:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edAxujKev1I

Glad you like my taste in music; as in literature and film, LOL, as well as cuisine, it's pretty eclectic.   To quote my friend, Kate, "Sure I have good taste.  I have lots of other taste too!"  e.g. somedays I like popcorn, bubblegum pop rock, and even "mind candy" novels - tho i was warned that over consumption of the latter can rot the mind.  ;)

Modified to add P.S.  Triplash, i forgot to ask which island?  (some days i have a pea-brain.)  Yeah, i know i could google to find out, but it's more fun if more people play and it's way past my bedtime so please, guys, everyone else take a turn before the GM makes us roll saving throws on 20-sided dice!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on February 18, 2013, 08:37:40 AM
To quote my friend, Kate, "Sure I have good taste.  I have lots of other taste too!"

Ha, I love it! :D

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Modified to add P.S.  Triplash, i forgot to ask which island?

Why I'm only from the grandest, most beautiful island around, lad: Newfoundland. It's a dirty big rock sitting off the East coast of Canada. Oddly enough we call it "The Rock". :P And if you believe our local TV station's callsign, we're also "The Tip of Atlantis". (I'm... skeptical on that one myself, but you never know!)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: caponicis on February 18, 2013, 01:51:28 PM
Howdy all.

Truth be told I rarely post here and rarely posted on the CoH boards but I was known as thedarkeone and was mostly on Freedom playing DarkebeDamned (spines/darke), Darke Orion (dark/shield scrapper), or my ill/rad troller Radical Darke. I can say I was devastated when the news hit; I was in New York on vacation with my wife and we had just returned from a day at the US Open when I was laying in bed and read the news on the forums. My wife came out of the shower and looked at me and asked what happened. I told her and she couldnt help but laugh (she is not a gamer) but I have been a little "less" ever since that moment.

2012 was an awful year for me. I started the year off with shoulder surgery and had about half an inch of bone cut out of my arm. Not the best situation since I make a living as a tennis pro. Anyways, 3 months after surgery I was cleared to return to work and the first day back I stepped on a ball and ruptured the connective tissue to my achilles. I was out of work another 6 weeks, in a boot for 6 weeks after that, and limited to teaching to about 4 hours a day for another 2 months. About 2 months after that my mom was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer.

Now in the midst of all that I did have my moments. My mom came through surgery and chemo fairly well (still an on going process 6 months later but the old woman is tough as nails); my department managed to post its best year ever even with my limited teaching due to numerous programs I implemented; I was selected as employee of the year after limping my way through 6 months and still working through almost all of my injuries; I won manager of the year. . . And then to top off my year, I was promptly fired because my boss of 5 years decided that he wanted a yes man instead of a manager. I was replaced by someone who still types with 2 fingers and has no idea how to run spreadsheets.

So, how does CoH fit into all this. . . Like so many of you it was my escape. I had been playing for 8 years and it brought me back to being a kid, reading comics, and dreaming I could fly. And it has been gone for 3 months and I miss it horribly. I still game but nothing has held my interest longer than 3 months now. I miss my characters, I miss the character creator, and I miss reading the forums. I definitely miss my escape from the sometimes depressing flow of reality and I still have my computer wallpaper from CoH that I just cant seem to change.

And yes, as a 38 year old, I still find it strange that I miss a game and community so much.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Knightslayer on February 18, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
And yes, as a 38 year old, I still find it strange that I miss a game and community so much.
Eight years is a long for time, almost one fourth of your life the game's been a part of it - so it's not that strange! :)
I hope 2013 will treat you better than 2012 did!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on February 18, 2013, 09:33:17 PM
Holy cow! I have been to Newfoundland and Nova Scotia!

In fact some of my SCA friends formed the Northpack of House Ironwolf in Nova Scotia!
http://tyson1.com/northpack/


I love it up thar!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on February 18, 2013, 11:01:20 PM
Holy cow! I have been to Newfoundland and Nova Scotia!

Yes by! Did ye get screeched in while ye were stayin wit us, wha? ;)

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In fact some of my SCA friends formed the Northpack of House Ironwolf in Nova Scotia!
http://tyson1.com/northpack/

...kay, that looks pretty cool.

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I love it up thar!

Of course. Who wouldn't? 8)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on February 19, 2013, 01:11:16 AM
Believe it or not a group of 4 of us made a 25 hour drive up. When we go there the folks we were staying with weren't ready for us and had a few friends already there for one more night. I actually turfed the dog out of his bed and slept in it!

It has since been a running joke :) - they posted a picture of their dog in his bed and I asked what was he doing in my room!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Colette on February 19, 2013, 03:05:21 AM
"Alot of people knew me as IceCicle, Aeon, Icarian, along with other alts." -- Icecicle.

:: Waves. :: Hey Snowcone!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Amph on February 19, 2013, 11:03:18 AM
Have Lurked... alot.

Male, 52, and loved this game and miss all my friends.

Just wish I could fix this mess.... but, I do not have that kind of money.   Sad.  I am Sad.  Sad that I have to settle for less that what we all had.

So, very, frustrating...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on February 19, 2013, 12:49:06 PM
Amph, you expressed what we all feel...don't give up hope. There are truly wonderful things taking place here, and I hope you read what has been accomplished so far. Hang in there with us...we all share common ground!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on February 19, 2013, 01:46:30 PM
I have not given up - I have contacted 2 groups of developers here in Michigan but have not heard back yet and in fact I doubted that they would reply but it won't stop me from trying.

I have a few more I will talk to and I have decided to also start building my own kid friendly game based on CoH loosely. I want the same gameplay but with different ways to earn experience. I want to be able to have experience earned by badging! Yes, I want kids to earn XP by exploring the world!

I want to also add in some math and science along with history all bundled into a game written so a 10-12 year old can learn as they play without being aware of it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Knightslayer on February 19, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
I have not given up - I have contacted 2 groups of developers here in Michigan but have not heard back yet and in fact I doubted that they would reply but it won't stop me from trying.

I have a few more I will talk to and I have decided to also start building my own kid friendly game based on CoH loosely. I want the same gameplay but with different ways to earn experience. I want to be able to have experience earned by badging! Yes, I want kids to earn XP by exploring the world!

I want to also add in some math and science along with history all bundled into a game written so a 10-12 year old can learn as they play without being aware of it.
CoH: Youth League?  ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nafaustu on February 19, 2013, 03:48:45 PM
I have not given up - I have contacted 2 groups of developers here in Michigan but have not heard back yet and in fact I doubted that they would reply but it won't stop me from trying.

I have a few more I will talk to and I have decided to also start building my own kid friendly game based on CoH loosely. I want the same gameplay but with different ways to earn experience. I want to be able to have experience earned by badging! Yes, I want kids to earn XP by exploring the world!

I want to also add in some math and science along with history all bundled into a game written so a 10-12 year old can learn as they play without being aware of it.

One of the things I always liked about CoX was how much they used actual mythology, so I support this conceptually.   More then once I had to go look something up that I found interesting.   Croatoa is a really good examine of game based on Mythology.    Stealth learning in games is kinda awesome :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on February 19, 2013, 04:18:19 PM
I have decided to also start building my own kid friendly game based on CoH loosely. I want the same gameplay but with different ways to earn experience. I want to be able to have experience earned by badging! Yes, I want kids to earn XP by exploring the world!

I want to also add in some math and science along with history all bundled into a game written so a 10-12 year old can learn as they play without being aware of it.

I'm envisioning a sort of cross between Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego and National Treasure, where you roam around the world chasing down villains to retrieve the artifacts they stole and stop their dastardly plots. You'd use math to solve puzzles in ancient temples, science to shut down their evil genius inventions, and you'd track them down by researching history, geography, and local plants and animals to figure out the clues they left behind.

Oooh, now I wanna play it :P
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on February 19, 2013, 06:42:30 PM
I know it is going to take some time. I am planning to use the same basic powers of CoH and cartoonize the foes a bit similar to how these look:

http://www.3drt.com/3dm/characters/toonpets-skeletons/toonpets-skeletons-shots.htm

I know this is going to take a while - I want to actually make a fun playable kids game that can sell for a very cheap price - $1.99 a month and then have an Item store where they can buy stuff instantly - OR and this is the BIG difference - click on a link that will assign a mission arc to you that will allow you to EARN the item.

I want the kids to play, to learn and also learn basic morality. Do unto others, the power of teamwork, the power of learning independance and standing on your own 2 feet, simple things like getting an allowance in game and the value of saving (the more you save the better interest it will pay).

I want to build a game unlike anything ever seen based on what my grand-daughter liked about CoH and the other games she plays. I am taking all the Unity tutorials to get a crash course in how to do this but honestly - this may take years. I am happy with that and if I can get it to a stage where I have a playable demo - I can try and get Valve or Disney to pick it up.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sugoi on February 19, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
I have not given up - I have contacted 2 groups of developers here in Michigan but have not heard back yet and in fact I doubted that they would reply but it won't stop me from trying.

I have a few more I will talk to and I have decided to also start building my own kid friendly game based on CoH loosely. I want the same gameplay but with different ways to earn experience. I want to be able to have experience earned by badging! Yes, I want kids to earn XP by exploring the world!

I want to also add in some math and science along with history all bundled into a game written so a 10-12 year old can learn as they play without being aware of it.

City of Sidekicks?   :D

It sounds like an admirable goal and I wish you well on your effort!  I won't tell a good (ex-CoX player) RL friend that you're planning on giving out XP for Badge Hunting... He'd have Honey Badger on the pursuit again!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on February 19, 2013, 08:05:47 PM
I'm envisioning a sort of cross between Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego and National Treasure, where you roam around the world chasing down villains to retrieve the artifacts they stole and stop their dastardly plots. You'd use math to solve puzzles in ancient temples, science to shut down their evil genius inventions, and you'd track them down by researching history, geography, and local plants and animals to figure out the clues they left behind.

Oooh, now I wanna play it :P

Can you imagine a puzzle where you have to mix Mentos and Diet Coke to make a fountain shoot into the air and put out a fire? All those simple science tricks to make it fun :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on February 21, 2013, 04:17:27 PM
Ha, I love it! :D

Why I'm only from the grandest, most beautiful island around, lad: Newfoundland. It's a dirty big rock sitting off the East coast of Canada. Oddly enough we call it "The Rock". :P And if you believe our local TV station's callsign, we're also "The Tip of Atlantis". (I'm... skeptical on that one myself, but you never know!)

Newfoundland sounds beautiful - and only on youtube did i find comments talking about newfie culture - i guess it's like folk music; just find all that stuff so charming.  Well, i don't know about Altantis but hey it's possible; in any event living that close to/on the Atlantic Ocean must feel amazing!   I just imagine the cool sea breezes and how the ocean air must smell and taste.  I bet it's fun watching flocks of sea gulls take flight in the sky perhaps while walking a rocky beach.  BTW, glad you got a chuckle also out of Kate's saying.   :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sugoi on February 21, 2013, 07:18:58 PM
Well, i don't know about Altantis but hey it's possible; in any event living that close to/on the Atlantic Ocean must feel amazing!

Hmm, misread that at first... saw it as "Altlantis", which would have been a nice name if CoX had ever added an undersea area...  ;D

I'm just waiting patiently to get my 440+ alts back to fighting crime (or being part of the problem)... and if I have to start from scratch?
Been there, done that... done that... done that... (is there an echo in here?)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: hurple on February 21, 2013, 07:44:34 PM
I seems like I am missing this game more and more every day.  I've tried CO and DCUO and they're just not the same.  DC might be playable, if I could figure out how to map my keyboard so I could move without having to use the frakking mouse.  I hate having to use both hands to move and turn... And CO just seems... wrong.  It's like the arcade version of CoH, and I HATE how you upgrade characters by upgrading their attributes (Strength, Charisma, etc) instead of just improving the powers (like in CoH) which just seems more "correct" in a superhero role-playing game...

In fact, I've regressed all the way to playing Sims 3.  Ugh, how the mighty have fallen.  LOL!

 
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on February 21, 2013, 10:59:29 PM
Newfoundland sounds beautiful - and only on youtube did i find comments talking about newfie culture - i guess it's like folk music; just find all that stuff so charming.  Well, i don't know about Altantis but hey it's possible; in any event living that close to/on the Atlantic Ocean must feel amazing!   I just imagine the cool sea breezes and how the ocean air must smell and taste.  I bet it's fun watching flocks of sea gulls take flight in the sky perhaps while walking a rocky beach.  BTW, glad you got a chuckle also out of Kate's saying.   :)

Folk music is exactly what you'd call it. With a bunch of Celtic influence thrown in there, and a crazy amount of jigging. Like, accordion and fiddle, stomp-the-floor type stuff. "Jigs and reels" aren't my favorite, but it's got its charms. And yeah, close to the ocean is definitely a beautiful place to live. My neck of the woods is more inland so I don't get it every day, but I've spent plenty of time on the coast. The smell of salt on the air, waves lapping outside your window while you're trying to sleep... and in some places, a twenty minute boat ride to go see an iceberg or a pod of whales. Oh yeah, that's good stuff :)

Hmm, misread that at first... saw it as "Altlantis", which would have been a nice name if CoX had ever added an undersea area...  ;D

"Altlantis"... that's awesome :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TimtheEnchanter on February 22, 2013, 12:02:49 AM
Ha, I love it! :D

Why I'm only from the grandest, most beautiful island around, lad: Newfoundland. It's a dirty big rock sitting off the East coast of Canada. Oddly enough we call it "The Rock". :P And if you believe our local TV station's callsign, we're also "The Tip of Atlantis". (I'm... skeptical on that one myself, but you never know!)

My wife is a Newfie, so I got to spend a lot of time there.  :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on February 22, 2013, 01:43:40 AM
My wife is a Newfie, so I got to spend a lot of time there.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_IlNbsILLE  :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Victoria Victrix on February 22, 2013, 10:26:01 AM
What's black and blue and swims in the ocean?

A mainlander that makes Newfie jokes.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Mentalshock on February 22, 2013, 03:28:49 PM
What's black and blue and swims in the ocean?

A mainlander that makes Newfie jokes.

Actually, the Newfies export the jokes to the mainland.   It's when they invite you on a fishing trip that you should be worried....
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on February 22, 2013, 05:07:38 PM
Actually, the Newfies export the jokes to the mainland.   It's when they invite you on a fishing trip that you should be worried....

Nono. You should worry when we tell you you're getting "Screeched In". We get you blitzed on a paint thinner special whiskey we call "screech" and make you kiss a raw fish.

And that's what we do when we like you. 8)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on February 22, 2013, 06:32:09 PM
Nono. You should worry when we tell you you're getting "Screeched In". We get you blitzed on a paint thinner special whiskey we call "screech" and make you kiss a raw fish.

I believe the proper response to that last should be "Wouldn't bother me; you obviously have never met my [wife/husband]."   ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Randomvector on February 23, 2013, 04:36:38 PM
Having regular dreams that CoX has been picked up and being rereleased. Waking up those days sucks.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on February 24, 2013, 05:46:14 AM
Same.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on February 24, 2013, 05:24:28 PM
I felt this way when I heard we were losing our game...I still feel the loss.

(https://i.imgur.com/LlfysvKl.gif)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Achilles6 on February 24, 2013, 09:14:25 PM
So...this is where we all ended up for our therapy sessions.  ;)

My name is Achilles6, and I haven't played CoX in 3 months now.  :gonk:
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sugoi on February 24, 2013, 09:23:10 PM
Hi, Achillies6!

(Long time member of Altaholics Anonymous... I know the drill)  ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Brightfires on February 24, 2013, 10:23:33 PM
I'm just using what might once have been "City-playing" time to go through my screenshot collection, resize my favorites and post them for the Ouphers. I'm considering starting a thread to repost them here, too.

It's not the same as logging in on Kestrel or Shade and flying around to look at a zone, but it's something...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Deathmint on February 24, 2013, 11:39:40 PM
Spending my time other ways, missing the game still. Had a thought to put in a specific picture for my forum ID, but realized I didn't get a screenshot I thought I did. Finding out now really sucks, since I can't just go back in the game and grab it...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Taceus Jiwede on February 24, 2013, 11:46:25 PM
Today when I woke up on Sunday it is usually the worst.  The last couple years between school and work Sunday was the only day I had off.  I would wake up late and play CoH all day.  Starting with the virtue Red Side Hami raid.  Every Sunday is a bit of a sting when I wake up now, can't spend all day on CoH anymore:(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Brightfires on February 25, 2013, 06:51:51 AM
On Liberty, Sunday was our MSR and iTrial day... I really miss MSRs and Underground runs.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Segev on February 25, 2013, 02:18:55 PM
I felt this way when I heard we were losing our game...I still feel the loss.

(https://i.imgur.com/LlfysvKl.gif)
One of the most heart-breaking lines in one of the most heart-breaking scenes in the series.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Adelante on February 25, 2013, 05:15:46 PM
The other day a friend asked me what I wanted to play... and it hit me all over again.  I miss City of Heroes so much, it has been such an epic game and it's hard to believe it's gone.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 25, 2013, 08:35:18 PM
The other day a friend asked me what I wanted to play... and it hit me all over again.  I miss City of Heroes so much, it has been such an epic game and it's hard to believe it's gone.
Did you tell your friend that you wanted to play City of Heroes?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: antarcticaa on February 26, 2013, 12:18:02 AM
I felt this way when I heard we were losing our game...I still feel the loss.

(https://i.imgur.com/LlfysvKl.gif)

As heartbreaking as that scene was (and it still reverberates in my heart), at least the Doctor can regenerate.  Here's hoping our beloved City will regenerate soon- as a purchased corporate package, a private server or a new game of CoH2. 

I feel so geeky replying to this as I sit wearing my "The Angels Have the Phone Box" sweatshirt.  Alonz-y!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaos Arcanna on February 26, 2013, 01:45:41 AM

For the most part, I think I'm doing fairly okay.

There are some people I lost contact with ... and people I rarely talk to now because of COH being gone.

I have enjoyed DC Online a lot-- the "Shout Chatter" reminds me of some of the conversations  I had in COH-- but two things struck me over the last couple of days.

1) Metropolis (and Gotham) don't feel like home to me (at least not yet). In COH I pretty much knew where everything was and  I rarely had to consult my online map to find it.

2) I miss having separate costume slots. I miss having three or four trays of available powers ....




Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Quanta on February 28, 2013, 04:11:56 AM
Not super.  Not super at all  :(  Life and work are being really, really stressful and I really, really want CoH back nowwwww!!!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on February 28, 2013, 09:12:02 PM
I wish I didn't miss it so much....but I do. Nothing has been able to fill the special hole it left.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZaC3R9h.gif)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Brightfires on March 01, 2013, 08:40:16 PM
I'm going to run out of screen shots to sort through soon... I just have Night Ward, the Shard Zones, Dark Astoria and some mission maps left.
'Not sure what I'm going to do after than.  :gonk:
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyImmolatasia on March 01, 2013, 09:15:31 PM
Ah, I'm not doing too good. :/ Kinda hit me all over again, listening to the Nova Praetoria theme, looking up the interview with Matt Miller, thinking about the opportunities I missed to read awesome stories and try to create my own.

I miss the game. Terribly. I hope we can bring it back someday, or something like it again.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Risha on March 02, 2013, 05:11:08 AM
Still bad.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Quanta on March 02, 2013, 09:55:13 PM
I'm still super optimistic that we will get our game back but the reality that it very well may be another year before I can logon to CoH has really been sinking in  :-\  It super sucks but I'll wait and keep checking the forums every day.  I'm in it for the long haul.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kemphler on March 03, 2013, 09:04:57 AM
As optimistic that I am that we'll get the game back eventually...I think that our best bet will lay with the Plan Zs that are being worked on. But either way...I am seriously missing CoH. After playing it for 8+ years...hell, I grew up with it, having had started playing it when I was 12. And the shut down announcement having come just a few days after my birthday was a rather unfriendly birthday present...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on March 03, 2013, 08:31:32 PM
I still keep making characters in my head.  I was watching a stupid Pepsiman video linked by Cracked, and found myself trying to decide what powersets he'd have.  I don't think I'll ever be able to completely let it go until and unless CoH comes back (or until there's a real replacement).
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: detour on March 04, 2013, 11:42:15 PM
I've been thinking about how I want to word this, and I think the best word I can come up with is 'longing'.  I long for this game.  I didn't always, when it was around, but it was around when I did want to play and catch up with people.  Now that I CAN'T have it, I just yearn for it sometimes.  There's nothing else like it.  Champions Online is like watching The Avengers:  City of Heroes was like BEING The Avengers.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on March 05, 2013, 04:48:07 AM
Here is an interesting article about the strong attachments people can form for nonhuman objects:

http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/thats-not-a-droid-thats-my-girlfriend/560/

This certainly rings true for me, since I feel about losing my characters much as I would feel about losing my RL best friend.  I feel naked without them. Something that I cherished is gone from my life.

ps I want Geminoid F  8)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on March 05, 2013, 05:07:03 AM
Here is an interesting article about the strong attachments people can form for nonhuman objects:

http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/thats-not-a-droid-thats-my-girlfriend/560/

This certainly rings true for me, since I feel about losing my characters much as I would feel about losing my RL best friend.  I feel naked without them. Something that I cherished is gone from my life.

ps I want Geminoid F  8)

Interesting. Very Interesting.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on March 05, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

This certainly rings true for me, since I feel about losing my characters much as I would feel about losing my RL best friend.  I feel naked without them. Something that I cherished is gone from my life.
In a way, those characters you created are facets of you. Somewhere in your psyche lurks those personalities that you created. Which, is why I say that I have way too many voices in my head. Not only do I have dozens of Heroes that I had created in CoH/V/P, I have dozens of characters that I've created for other RPGs both PnP and MMO. I would say that I have, literally, hundreds of characters floating somewhere in my head. NCSoft took away the platform in which I could interact with a good portion of those characters. So, it's like they locked away a part of me. That, is probably what a lot of people are feeling now days. And, that's why a lot of people are a little irritated with NCSoft. (understatement of the century  :o )
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JWBullfrog on March 05, 2013, 02:59:25 PM
In a way, those characters you created are facets of you. Somewhere in your psyche lurks those personalities that you created. Which, is why I say that I have way too many voices in my head. Not only do I have dozens of Heroes that I had created in CoH/V/P, I have dozens of characters that I've created for other RPGs both PnP and MMO. I would say that I have, literally, hundreds of characters floating somewhere in my head. NCSoft took away the platform in which I could interact with a good portion of those characters...

Very similar idea for me. Fortunately, my head has enough empty space inside of it for my characters to roam freely for a while until we get this whole thing sorted out. I have been able to translate some of them into to other games (for example: one has become a highly successful starfleet admiral and another is joyfully slaughtering the creatures of darkness for the Templars) and some of them still feature in my own writings, but they don't quite fit there and no matter how well it seems to be going, they are not quite home.
Will we get our city back? I believe we will but I've already accepted the idea that we may not. In any case I owe those characters, those 'facets of psyche' a chance to get out of my head.
 
It gets noisy in there, and I don't want to think about what's happening to the rugs.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on March 05, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Segev on March 05, 2013, 05:43:34 PM
Speaking as a computational intelligence expert, I don't think we'll actually see independent A.I. Whether or not it's possible is beside the point; the way I think we'll wind up advancing our technology, we'll have our brains neurally interfacing with computers, using ALUs and CPUs and GPUs as direct aids to our own thinking capacity and learning to control our computers and machinery much as we do our own bodies.

There will be intelligence in our machines, but it won't be artificial. It will be us, integrating our tools under the control of our minds just as surely as are our bodies.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on March 05, 2013, 06:01:41 PM
Speaking as a computational intelligence expert, I don't think we'll actually see independent A.I. Whether or not it's possible is beside the point; the way I think we'll wind up advancing our technology, we'll have our brains neurally interfacing with computers, using ALUs and CPUs and GPUs as direct aids to our own thinking capacity and learning to control our computers and machinery much as we do our own bodies.

There will be intelligence in our machines, but it won't be artificial. It will be us, integrating our tools under the control of our minds just as surely as are our bodies.

uhhmm is that a good thing or bad thing? While here, we have a great concentration of intelligent people, the world as a whole, the meaning of intelligence is lost to many people. :p. Many havent even mastered the art of common sense. ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on March 05, 2013, 07:08:26 PM
Speaking as a computational intelligence expert, I don't think we'll actually see independent A.I. Whether or not it's possible is beside the point; the way I think we'll wind up advancing our technology, we'll have our brains neurally interfacing with computers, using ALUs and CPUs and GPUs as direct aids to our own thinking capacity and learning to control our computers and machinery much as we do our own bodies.

There will be intelligence in our machines, but it won't be artificial. It will be us, integrating our tools under the control of our minds just as surely as are our bodies.

If you think that your average big corporation isn't going to JUMP on the chance to build an army of wage-and-benefit-free robotic slave laborers, you have way more faith in human nature than I do.

There's also the strong probability that when this technology reaches anywhere near a manageable price, that people will be in "relationships" with them - far less messy than a relationship with another human, we can just order up our ideal partner and what on earth could possibly go wrong with these scenarios.....?! The privileged among us will be busily genetically- and cybernetically-modifying themselves as well, yes what on earth could possibly go wrong with all this.

I dont think all this is going to happen in our lifetimes, but yes it is coming. We are already being financially modified into a morlock/eloi division of humanity [1% vs 99%], sooner or later this will become physical fact as well. However this could easily devolve into a political argument so I'll stop there. Human depravity has no limit, after a lifetime of observation I am convinced of it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Segev on March 05, 2013, 08:26:26 PM
There's no profit to making AIs to the point that they're people, not for "wage slaves without the wages." Expert systems are entirely non-sentient, but automate intellectual work the way factories do manual labor.

Automation, not creation of sentient slaves, is how things are more likely to go in that direction. Eventually, you won't have to do more than walk your cart past a sensor and double-check the price to approve it before it auto-charges to your registered account. (Or walk it by, then swipe your debit card or insert cash.)

There is, again, no need nor reason to make "sentient AIs" that they can "abuse." It's part of the image of the "evil corporation" that is utterly foolish, because it's mustache-twirling evil for the sake of evil. It would cost more and create more problems on top of being likely unethical.

No, what's more likely is that expert systems in linguistic processing will get to a point that we'll have idiot activists who CLAIM they're sentient and deserve wages. And worse, truly evil people who will proclaim the same thing with intent of exploiting the "wages" these "slaves" are forced to be paid, looking to "protect" them through power of attorney or some such and just siphon money for themselves in that way.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on March 11, 2013, 10:31:29 AM
Last night was spent with my being unable to get to sleep at a reasonable hour, thanks to a mix of the Daylight Saving Time change messing with me and a nice, loooooong period of reminiscing about City of Heroes, seeing my various heroes in my mind's eye and feeling saddened by that being the only way I can see them now outside screenshots.  :(

I miss City of Heroes.  I've been enjoying other gaming interests to an extent--catching up on achievements on The Binding of Isaac and diving into the Marvel Heroes MMO closed beta--but as great as those games are, they're not the same as running around in Paragon City.  Nothing is.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nafaustu on March 11, 2013, 08:05:43 PM
I don't even enjoy games anymore.    Breath of Death VII and Epic Battle Fantasy 4 are slowly starting to save me.    I'm terrified of playing another MMO, even though i've played MMO's for YEARS.   I'm afraid to get invested.   I could lose everything on a whim.   I might actually be a lost market for them now...which is sad because I enjoyed being a dedicated crafter in a lot of games.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Joshex on March 11, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
my mad science antics are being put to good use on my current game project, I can now script nearly anything for a game wooo..
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on March 17, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
I finally got to reconnect with my former co-founder of The Omniscients, from Justice, on another MMO just now.  We definitely agreed that, while fun, the game we were playing certainly wasn't City of Heroes.  We didn't mean that in a slight against the game in question, of course--merely a statement that City of Heroes was, in many ways, THE superhero MMO experience.

That said, it was good to catch back up with an old friend.  The funny thing is that, being an Internet buddy, I've known him for almost four years, now (which feels really weird to say!), but we've never actually met face to face.  Isn't it funny how things work out in modern life?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nyx Nought Nothing on March 18, 2013, 12:04:30 AM
Pretty well at this point actually. While i still miss CoH i joined a D&D campaign about a month ago, dug out my Mekton books and started tinkering with ideas, have been playing Torchlight II now and again, and have been working on some sculptural and clothing projects.
While i would love to have CoH or an equivalent game back it's not like i have an unfilled void in my life now. Hobbies and games come and go, but admittedly so far CoH is the only one to go that was unilaterally ended by something outside my control that i can't simply start up again later.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: HEATSTROKE on March 18, 2013, 03:27:29 AM
anger.. especially since i finally got enough money to build a new PC and now i cant pay CoH on it
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Starship on March 18, 2013, 05:08:39 AM
Okay, I found this site and registered.. glad to see I'm not the only one.
I felt a little loss when the game shut down.. didn't think it would really bother me in that I wasn't playing as often these days.

But I actually got pretty sad when I parked my little Taxibot on top of Wincott's car one last time before my final logout.
Lots of fun and memories, and hard work put into those toons.   So stupid that I was feeling melancholy over some pixels.

So I shook it off, dusted off WoW.. hated it.  Went to SWTOR, made a 50 and got bored..
GW2.. fun but not the same.

Then it hit me, it wasn't ever so much the game.  It was the people and the freedom that game offered.

It's pretty sad and pathetic really.  I do have a real life.. but at the end of the day I want to sit down and relax.  CoX was how I did that.
I really miss this game, and I'm not finding another game that fills that void.   It really sucks, I want CoX back.  I really missed playing with all of you.  :'(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thoth Mer on March 18, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
WALL OF TEXT which I know means most people won't read, but I'm writing more for myself than for you, so skip it if you don't like reading.

Contrary to Nyx, I Do have an unfilled void in my life now.  I can remember many, many years ago seeing CoH advertised and thinking how cool that would be, but paying to play a game has always been against my better judgment as money is hard to come by and shouldn't be wasted on non essentials.  If I had only known then...  It wasn't until I saw in an online community mention of CoH being free to play that I dived in.  And it was that... nothing near my normal toe testing the waters and checking the deep end first (Jaws).  Within a week I was paying to play.  And I don't know how to express what a huge deal that is for me, so please do your courtesy gawking here.  Thanks, looks believable, I can see you understand what I'm saying.

Some people here mention how they feel silly crying over pixels.  Take heart that you weren't telling everyone in your real life that you could now fly when you first started playing CoH, because that's exactly what I did.  I didn't care about the looks or what people might think, because now I had to maintain my secret identity and be mild mannered, so of course they wouldn't believe me when I said I can fly now!

It was eleven months that I got to play.  I'm a solo guy, and was very cautious of other people in game due to the stories I'd heard about the WoW community.  But as luck would have it, and as we all know, the CoX community is amazing.  After the first month I had some really fun people to dork around with and that's when I met some of the experts.  And not just normal experts.  Specifically my teacher, with the toons that when new people teamed with us they would all stand there in awe as Malta and Freaks and the rest were instantly annihilated without mercy, all while the toon was looking exceptionally fabulous!  It was like an off screen cue card holder was giving the new to the team people their lines because it was always the same thing:  "Holy Sh*t!"

Oddly enough, my main teacher is the worst at communicating.  One person, understanding what I was talking about, said you have to learn the language to communicate with him.  For a long time I thought maybe he just hated me!  He didn't.  I just hadn't learned his language yet.

Despite the many people that I played with who had what I call Supertoons, he still had a unique-to-most play style.  I watched him do it for weeks without understanding it, but when he finally explained it made so much sense.  Though some of his toons just devastated mobs before anyone else could get there, the same principle was used in teaming.  What his teachers had taught him and he knew for himself was that tanks are for aggro, so the tank runs around and gathers while everyone else watches from a distance.  Then, when the tank stops moving he's out of the line of sight of the foes so even ranged guys come in and he is mobbed, the team moves in and AoE's them all in seconds, and then it's on to the next area.  Once I understood what I was seeing because it was explained to me, it was so obvious!  After that going back to the normal team experience of simultaneous multiple one on one combats of team members and foes all spread out just seemed tedious and silly and looked so messy!  I just can't get over the differences in the two play styles.  And yes, many of you know this, but so many really good players just never did this and it's really night oranges and day apples different.  This was when I finally understood why he didn't explain to new-to-team players what was going on.  His thought was people should pick it up from observation.  Mine was, like me, explain it so we're all on the same page, so I became the narrator usually.  We learned a lot from each other and I am happy to say we still email occasionally, usually about what game doesn't stand up to our expectations in our search for the next MMO.

I say it's odd that he's so bad about communicating because when I first met him, we spent several hours standing in Wentworths as he patiently explained the whole thing to me.  This is when the game finally started to make a bit of sense to me.  I still couldn't build a toon, but I knew what things were now and what my goals would be.

I grew up on Marvel Comics.  I'm lost in that world and don't want to be found.  All I wanted to do when I first saw CoH was be a hero and fly.  I had no idea how complicated MMO's were and was not at all prepared.  I was overwhelmed and a not too bright noob and this guy just wasted his time, hours of it, to help me out.  Through him I met other "Supers" and finally got one of them to map out a MIDS build for a tank I'd started playing as Dual Blades/Fire.  I know.  Many will think I should have made it on my own.  But for me, true understanding of the system came from referencing that build and branching off from the guidelines I pieced together every time some one spit out a pearl of wisdom which I would copy, paste, and save for later reference.  I never actually simulated the build that was given to me entirely, I was a bit scattered with my many toons.  But I managed to keep what I liked while doing what I would have never done but was guided to do, and wound up with a, though Fire specific, Supertoon!  My bread winner to support my bad habit of blasters and too many other toons.  My teacher helped me with my next one, a "world tank" rather than a fire specific so I could play more freely I guess.  He helped me as I leveled him up.  It was a different experience than the first one because it was easy for him to understand the builds in his head, whereas I need a map to reference over and over.  So I had pages and pages of notes!  The end result, though I still needed to get all the recipes and slot him properly, was a very fun Axe/Shield tank.  Now I could play and not get killed All the time.  My first three toons were blasters, still my favorite type, and tanking would have been my last choice.  But City of Hospitals was not as fun for me as a blaster, so they were moved to the back for a while during my education.  Later I was able to play them more properly using what I'd learned about building toons and playing the game.  And nicely enough, I found out tanking is fun too.

That site where I found out CoH was free to play; I had 100+ avatars.  Characters of my own creation, favorite characters from more obscure sci-fi books, and some other sources.  All very real in my mind.  I've not been able to go back and enjoy that site still.  It holds no appeal to me, as was the case for a while before I left.

At CoH, when I found I could have toons on each server, I started populating other servers since Victory was full.  In eleven months I had 44 active established toons, and 25 or so more waiting for power set purchases or me to just have the time to start them up.  I was really looking forward to one of my early original toons getting to be a Beast Master/Nature's Affinity mastermind!  It was the perfect set choices for his look and story.  The character creator was frustrating to me because of it's limitations.  (Yes, I know what you're thinking.  This is how I am.  Imagine what I'm going through now without CoH!) 

I spent hours making my first toon.  Many hours.  I was quite happy with him.  I changed boots and gloves after a month or so.  That was all.  He got duplicated with different power sets on other servers a couple of times with Circle Of Thorns costume pieces, but he basically only had minor changes. 

I was passing through Ouoroboros once.  One of my favorite spots.  Most of my toons are there still, as I decided it was the most appropriate place to say goodbye to them.  Anyway, I noticed a cool looking toon and complimented him on it.  The guy thanked me for the comment and then proceeded to tell me he had seen me around for a while and his toon was inspired by mine.  Wow!  That was the best compliment I've ever gotten!  Good way to make it on to my friends list! 

All of my toons were the same way in that I never had any use for costume slots because I spent hours, days, weeks, and more getting them just right for my tastes.  Once I had them done, there wasn't ever any improvement I could find to make on them.  I experienced a humble pride every time someone would stop to compliment me on one of my toons or their names, which was a semi-regular occurrence.  Several times the compliment would come after many missions with a person then out of nowhere they would say something.  Perhaps that's what people do, but for me, I don't say something to someone unless I consider it exceptional and genuinely feel what I'm saying.  Similarly, I only used SG Bases for my toons on a server.  The design was a simple four rooms all for storage and crafting, purely for function only.  It surprised me every time someone came into my base and despite all the bases out there and all the people that have made them I would still be told my approach was cool and unique and had never occurred to them.  Then I'd bake them brownies!


As it turns out, for the original characters I made that were new to me rather than already existing in my mind, the hours spent in creation provided the time and inspiration for names, origin stories, character development (duh - but you know what I mean) and so on.  In other words, the process of creating was usually accompanied by watching these people develop as real-in-my-mind people.  So on one hand I'm creating, and on the other I'm actually viewing it happening as a spectator who is removed from it.  If that makes sense.

Well, it makes sense to me, and not long ago, it occurred to me that this is the key to why CoH is missed.  I'm sure many have already figured this out, and I know what I disliked most about NoCompassionSoft taking our world away was taking my toons from me, but maybe I've rediscovered this.  Yes, I miss my friends.  In such a short time I met so many wonderful people and I wish them all well and think of them often.  Yes, I miss Ouro, and the Shard, and Talos Island.  But what I've realized is more than anything I miss my heros.  Not Stan's Spidey or Moon Knight or Superman.  MY heroes.  Mine.  I never cared that I was doing the same missions over and over so much because what was really going on was I was spending time with my heroes who are real to me in a world where our realities juxtaposed. 

To me, This is why I miss CoH.  To me, this is what the secret of CoH's appeal is and what motivated the community to such (in my limited knowledge) great efforts and response to our loss.  This is what I will have to have from any game I choose to pay for in the future.  And since most games don't have that, well, I'm back to not spending money on some computer game.

It was worth it though.  The escape from daily life and all the crap that I've got going on.  The perfect way to wind down and relax and not worry.  I can't tell you how therapeutic soloing the Fire Cave in AE was for me.  A nice thrill to have the patrols flood around me and my hero.  Would we survive!?!  It was a thrill every time.  And that was a good way to give back to my friends who helped me make my Supertoon, by pl'ing their new toons left at the door while they went to sleep for the night, and of course it was fun if they wanted to join in too. 

So how am I handling the loss?  The way I handle most of the reality based things that make me sad.  Escapism.  I've caught up on my movies and videos.  Currently working my way through seven seasons of Mystery Science 3000, along with other stuff.  I've finished a couple of Nintendo games I have here.  Most of my time recently has been me populating a galaxy in my offline version of Spore.  Not too many complaints about that character creator!  Heaven would be combining CoH and Spore qualities into the same creator!  Oh to dream. But Spore is entertaining though a bit monotonous.  And I do a bit of writing!  See!  Another reason you wish CoH was still around, because I'd be there instead of writing all of this!

Online?  Unfortunately, everything gets compared to CoH.  I've tried Champions Online and the creator is fun, as long as you don't mind comic book graphics that make it harder to see a real hero, being limited to the base line of costumes if you're not going to buy the one's you want, and a human face that is just off no matter what I do to it.  I think it's the mouth and jaw.  I'm free to play there, so only have two toons.  I guess a good way to put it is they are both still below level 15.  I've designed many toons, but even with a life time membership I think you're limited to 8 toons?  Likely you can buy more I guess.  I won't be buying 50+ more though.  And I liked having that freedom of still being able to make plenty more heroes that CoH offered.  One friend there had over 100 toons.  He used the costume slots as well!  That's a lot of creating!

I'm still solo at CO.  Actually the first my first community experience there was a person who sent me a team invite out of the blue.  I was involved in an area event at the time so figured he was there somewhere too.  He never said anything to me, and I was busy with the mission so didn't have time to chat, then a few minutes later all I got was, "Fool," and he was gone.  Not the best first impressions for me, a guy who already feels stupid in most computer games of any type, even at an experienced level.  I've teamed with a few others.  It's nice because it makes me remember my good teaming experiences on CoH.  I've tried to connect with the CoH community there, but not hard enough I guess.  I do like that there's all kinds of different toons.  It's fun to watch them.  I wish the graphics were better though.  The main things for me are the graphics.  I'm kind of attached to the CoH appearance, rather than looking like a two dimensional character moving about in a comic book, which is what CO is to me.  And my lack of understanding the game mechanics and systems.  I need my patient teachers who are natural experts.  So I'm just not inspired to pay to play.  Not like I was with CoH.  CoH got me paying just on the game alone, before I knew anyone there.  You create and you play, level to four and Fly!  I wonder if that would be different if I'd not experienced CoH first?  I guess I should play it properly, since it's the genre I want and I won't be doing DCUO!

An email told me that now Tera was the game of choice, so I looked into that.  It's ok.  No wings and I can't fly and standard creators with limited avatar selection and what looks like yet another system to learn.  Really after almost a year of having my hand held in CoH I was only just starting to gain any comprehension of what to do.  Maybe in a few years I'd be really good at building and slotting a CoH toon.  A more recent email seems to show that Tera has failed the test!  Ha!  I never even found them on there!  It's ok for what it is I guess, but I won't pay for it.

Found out about Marvel Heros Beta testing somewhere and signed up for that, and the fools let me in!  At least it's Marvel Heroes and has that potential.  The story is enjoyable, and my limited experience is pleasant so far, all beta issues aside.  However, it fails for me.  I know these heroes.  Most of them aren't my preference.  I usually wound up liking the more obscure characters.  Meaning they are less likely to be made into playable characters in the future.  And I'm really glad I've not heard, "just like Diablo" for a while because it was getting really annoying and it holds absolutely no meaning for me, having never experienced Diablo, and I'm not really wanting to now.  My main issue is obvious I'm sure.  And made worse because in a video they addressed the question at a presentation at a NYC comic convention.  No creatable characters.  Their reasoning:  they showed a picture of a guy with three forks taped on one hand and three butter knives taped on the other and said because no one wants to see knife and fork Wolverine.  (Immediately part of my mind was thinking, would I make that if I could?)  Come on.  Really, what kind of stupid lame excuse is that!?!  It's the kind of lame excuse, my mind answers, that someone who wants to avoid the question would give!  I'm looking at these guys thinking they have a chance at something great here, and they're missing it completely!  Kind of like if Coke goes out of business and they start selling fruit drinks.  Their second excuse: Loosely quoted - "because seeing nine Iron Mans running around blasting bad guys is 'kind of cool!'"  Ugh!  No.  No Marvel Heroes.  No it isn't.  It's bloody confusing and bland and lame and weak and AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!  And, what they call flying is not flying.  I typed that loudly and will leave it at that (except that they seem to think it's out of this world).  Good points.  Cut scenes have voice overs for weak but passable static comic book pictures.  Heroes have voiced comments that cue on proximitiy to specific other heroes or specific situations like leveling or finding a medal or standing idle.  I really never understood how CoH could have missed out on having these basics.  No one knows, but I used to do my own voice overs for the CoH cut scenes!

Marvel Heroes is fine for the standard player that has a limited imagination and has never known or wanted more.  Then again, the majority of the populations don't like to do their own thinking do they?  I don't mind too much the awkward point of perspective, but I do mind not being able to get a first person perspective.  The game is challenging at times but at the same time manageable for a bad player like me.  Sadly, the best part of the game is it is/will be free to play.  This is good because I won't be paying to play it.  Too bad for me that I will not be spending money to get a specific character to play.  The game isn't that good.  It goes back to wasting money on frugal things.  The fact that I won't be buying a character I like will mean I'll probably not be playing it so much as I might.  I think the sole drive that will keep this game interesting to people who want to pay for it will be in putting out new playable heroes.  Though it is really nice to recognize places, characters, and things one may know from knowledge of the Marvel universes, I don't see that it has a long life expectancy.

So I'm here on Titan again.  Trying to find a spark of hope that the two projects by players-for players to make a (better than) CoX is really going to happen, and will it happen before I die?



Okay, I found this site and registered.. glad to see I'm not the only one.
I felt a little loss when the game shut down.. didn't think it would really bother me in that I wasn't playing as often these days.

But I actually got pretty sad when I parked my little Taxibot on top of Wincott's car one last time before my final logout.
Lots of fun and memories, and hard work put into those toons.   So stupid that I was feeling melancholy over some pixels.

So I shook it off, dusted off WoW.. hated it.  Went to SWTOR, made a 50 and got bored..
GW2.. fun but not the same.

Then it hit me, it wasn't ever so much the game.  It was the people and the freedom that game offered.

It's pretty sad and pathetic really.  I do have a real life.. but at the end of the day I want to sit down and relax.  CoX was how I did that.
I really miss this game, and I'm not finding another game that fills that void.   It really sucks, I want CoX back.  I really missed playing with all of you.  :'(



I'm like Starship above me here.  I could have posted with just his final two paragraphs and left it at that.  Only I express a lot.  My sense of loss is profound and I got very sad, and angry, and so on and I still deal with these reactions months later now.

I don't feel that Starship or I or anyone was stupid to feel our emotions because in our reality these characters did exist as our selves, our friends, our companions, and our heroes.

I'll never knowingly help NoCompassionSoft with any support from my wallet or opinions.  I'll actually go out of my way to denounce them if I get the chance and anyone cares to listen.  Their track record is warning enough given what is on wiki about them, and their blatant disregard for their customers solidifies my resolve in this.  I won't even look at GW2 for free to play.  I'm ok with cutting off my nose to spite my face here if that's what I'm doing.  It's challenging for me to dislike something that I want to hate instead.  I try to avoid hating.  It's a lot of effort to not write to NoCompassionSoft and tell them what I really think about them for doing this, foul language included.

I'd pay twice as much and more to be able to keep playing CoH.  My friends say they understand that I miss the game.  They watched me experience it and had to sit through me blabbing on about it.  I trust them when they say they have an idea of how important CoH has been to me.  My personal life is full of crap.  CoH quickly became my therapeutic escape.

I miss my friends.  I miss teaming.  I miss the community.  I miss mauling Sappers with vengeance.  I miss laughing every single time I jumped off the edge of the platform at Ouroboros to free fall and land in the pool!  I did that a lot!  I miss the game itself.  And yes, I miss my heroes.  I don't miss it any less than I did before.  I want it back.  Now.

I'm still waiting and watching.  I haven't forgotten.  I'll be there to beta test our new home if they'll have me for that.  Please, anyone with anything they think I should be aware of in regards to this quote me or message me some how if possible so I can know where to watch.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on March 18, 2013, 02:06:11 PM
WALL OF TEXT which I know means most people won't read, but I'm writing more for myself than for you, so skip it if you don't like reading.

Contrary to Nyx, I Do have an unfilled void in my life now.  I can remember many, many years ago seeing CoH advertised and thinking how cool that would be, but paying to play a game has always been against my better judgment as money is hard to come by and shouldn't be wasted on non essentials.  If I had only known then...  It wasn't until I saw in an online community mention of CoH being free to play that I dived in.  And it was that... nothing near my normal toe testing the waters and checking the deep end first (Jaws).  Within a week I was paying to play.  And I don't know how to express what a huge deal that is for me, so please do your courtesy gawking here.  Thanks, looks believable, I can see you understand what I'm saying.

Some people here mention how they feel silly crying over pixels.  Take heart that you weren't telling everyone in your real life that you could now fly when you first started playing CoH, because that's exactly what I did.  I didn't care about the looks or what people might think, because now I had to maintain my secret identity and be mild mannered, so of course they wouldn't believe me when I said I can fly now!

It was eleven months that I got to play.  I'm a solo guy, and was very cautious of other people in game due to the stories I'd heard about the WoW community.  But as luck would have it, and as we all know, the CoX community is amazing.  After the first month I had some really fun people to dork around with and that's when I met some of the experts.  And not just normal experts.  Specifically my teacher, with the toons that when new people teamed with us they would all stand there in awe as Malta and Freaks and the rest were instantly annihilated without mercy, all while the toon was looking exceptionally fabulous!  It was like an off screen cue card holder was giving the new to the team people their lines because it was always the same thing:  "Holy Sh*t!"

Oddly enough, my main teacher is the worst at communicating.  One person, understanding what I was talking about, said you have to learn the language to communicate with him.  For a long time I thought maybe he just hated me!  He didn't.  I just hadn't learned his language yet.

Despite the many people that I played with who had what I call Supertoons, he still had a unique-to-most play style.  I watched him do it for weeks without understanding it, but when he finally explained it made so much sense.  Though some of his toons just devastated mobs before anyone else could get there, the same principle was used in teaming.  What his teachers had taught him and he knew for himself was that tanks are for aggro, so the tank runs around and gathers while everyone else watches from a distance.  Then, when the tank stops moving he's out of the line of sight of the foes so even ranged guys come in and he is mobbed, the team moves in and AoE's them all in seconds, and then it's on to the next area.  Once I understood what I was seeing because it was explained to me, it was so obvious!  After that going back to the normal team experience of simultaneous multiple one on one combats of team members and foes all spread out just seemed tedious and silly and looked so messy!  I just can't get over the differences in the two play styles.  And yes, many of you know this, but so many really good players just never did this and it's really night oranges and day apples different.  This was when I finally understood why he didn't explain to new-to-team players what was going on.  His thought was people should pick it up from observation.  Mine was, like me, explain it so we're all on the same page, so I became the narrator usually.  We learned a lot from each other and I am happy to say we still email occasionally, usually about what game doesn't stand up to our expectations in our search for the next MMO.

I say it's odd that he's so bad about communicating because when I first met him, we spent several hours standing in Wentworths as he patiently explained the whole thing to me.  This is when the game finally started to make a bit of sense to me.  I still couldn't build a toon, but I knew what things were now and what my goals would be.

I grew up on Marvel Comics.  I'm lost in that world and don't want to be found.  All I wanted to do when I first saw CoH was be a hero and fly.  I had no idea how complicated MMO's were and was not at all prepared.  I was overwhelmed and a not too bright noob and this guy just wasted his time, hours of it, to help me out.  Through him I met other "Supers" and finally got one of them to map out a MIDS build for a tank I'd started playing as Dual Blades/Fire.  I know.  Many will think I should have made it on my own.  But for me, true understanding of the system came from referencing that build and branching off from the guidelines I pieced together every time some one spit out a pearl of wisdom which I would copy, paste, and save for later reference.  I never actually simulated the build that was given to me entirely, I was a bit scattered with my many toons.  But I managed to keep what I liked while doing what I would have never done but was guided to do, and wound up with a, though Fire specific, Supertoon!  My bread winner to support my bad habit of blasters and too many other toons.  My teacher helped me with my next one, a "world tank" rather than a fire specific so I could play more freely I guess.  He helped me as I leveled him up.  It was a different experience than the first one because it was easy for him to understand the builds in his head, whereas I need a map to reference over and over.  So I had pages and pages of notes!  The end result, though I still needed to get all the recipes and slot him properly, was a very fun Axe/Shield tank.  Now I could play and not get killed All the time.  My first three toons were blasters, still my favorite type, and tanking would have been my last choice.  But City of Hospitals was not as fun for me as a blaster, so they were moved to the back for a while during my education.  Later I was able to play them more properly using what I'd learned about building toons and playing the game.  And nicely enough, I found out tanking is fun too.

That site where I found out CoH was free to play; I had 100+ avatars.  Characters of my own creation, favorite characters from more obscure sci-fi books, and some other sources.  All very real in my mind.  I've not been able to go back and enjoy that site still.  It holds no appeal to me, as was the case for a while before I left.

At CoH, when I found I could have toons on each server, I started populating other servers since Victory was full.  In eleven months I had 44 active established toons, and 25 or so more waiting for power set purchases or me to just have the time to start them up.  I was really looking forward to one of my early original toons getting to be a Beast Master/Nature's Affinity mastermind!  It was the perfect set choices for his look and story.  The character creator was frustrating to me because of it's limitations.  (Yes, I know what you're thinking.  This is how I am.  Imagine what I'm going through now without CoH!) 

I spent hours making my first toon.  Many hours.  I was quite happy with him.  I changed boots and gloves after a month or so.  That was all.  He got duplicated with different power sets on other servers a couple of times with Circle Of Thorns costume pieces, but he basically only had minor changes. 

I was passing through Ouoroboros once.  One of my favorite spots.  Most of my toons are there still, as I decided it was the most appropriate place to say goodbye to them.  Anyway, I noticed a cool looking toon and complimented him on it.  The guy thanked me for the comment and then proceeded to tell me he had seen me around for a while and his toon was inspired by mine.  Wow!  That was the best compliment I've ever gotten!  Good way to make it on to my friends list! 

All of my toons were the same way in that I never had any use for costume slots because I spent hours, days, weeks, and more getting them just right for my tastes.  Once I had them done, there wasn't ever any improvement I could find to make on them.  I experienced a humble pride every time someone would stop to compliment me on one of my toons or their names, which was a semi-regular occurrence.  Several times the compliment would come after many missions with a person then out of nowhere they would say something.  Perhaps that's what people do, but for me, I don't say something to someone unless I consider it exceptional and genuinely feel what I'm saying.  Similarly, I only used SG Bases for my toons on a server.  The design was a simple four rooms all for storage and crafting, purely for function only.  It surprised me every time someone came into my base and despite all the bases out there and all the people that have made them I would still be told my approach was cool and unique and had never occurred to them.  Then I'd bake them brownies!


As it turns out, for the original characters I made that were new to me rather than already existing in my mind, the hours spent in creation provided the time and inspiration for names, origin stories, character development (duh - but you know what I mean) and so on.  In other words, the process of creating was usually accompanied by watching these people develop as real-in-my-mind people.  So on one hand I'm creating, and on the other I'm actually viewing it happening as a spectator who is removed from it.  If that makes sense.

Well, it makes sense to me, and not long ago, it occurred to me that this is the key to why CoH is missed.  I'm sure many have already figured this out, and I know what I disliked most about NoCompassionSoft taking our world away was taking my toons from me, but maybe I've rediscovered this.  Yes, I miss my friends.  In such a short time I met so many wonderful people and I wish them all well and think of them often.  Yes, I miss Ouro, and the Shard, and Talos Island.  But what I've realized is more than anything I miss my heros.  Not Stan's Spidey or Moon Knight or Superman.  MY heroes.  Mine.  I never cared that I was doing the same missions over and over so much because what was really going on was I was spending time with my heroes who are real to me in a world where our realities juxtaposed. 

To me, This is why I miss CoH.  To me, this is what the secret of CoH's appeal is and what motivated the community to such (in my limited knowledge) great efforts and response to our loss.  This is what I will have to have from any game I choose to pay for in the future.  And since most games don't have that, well, I'm back to not spending money on some computer game.

It was worth it though.  The escape from daily life and all the crap that I've got going on.  The perfect way to wind down and relax and not worry.  I can't tell you how therapeutic soloing the Fire Cave in AE was for me.  A nice thrill to have the patrols flood around me and my hero.  Would we survive!?!  It was a thrill every time.  And that was a good way to give back to my friends who helped me make my Supertoon, by pl'ing their new toons left at the door while they went to sleep for the night, and of course it was fun if they wanted to join in too. 

So how am I handling the loss?  The way I handle most of the reality based things that make me sad.  Escapism.  I've caught up on my movies and videos.  Currently working my way through seven seasons of Mystery Science 3000, along with other stuff.  I've finished a couple of Nintendo games I have here.  Most of my time recently has been me populating a galaxy in my offline version of Spore.  Not too many complaints about that character creator!  Heaven would be combining CoH and Spore qualities into the same creator!  Oh to dream. But Spore is entertaining though a bit monotonous.  And I do a bit of writing!  See!  Another reason you wish CoH was still around, because I'd be there instead of writing all of this!

Online?  Unfortunately, everything gets compared to CoH.  I've tried Champions Online and the creator is fun, as long as you don't mind comic book graphics that make it harder to see a real hero, being limited to the base line of costumes if you're not going to buy the one's you want, and a human face that is just off no matter what I do to it.  I think it's the mouth and jaw.  I'm free to play there, so only have two toons.  I guess a good way to put it is they are both still below level 15.  I've designed many toons, but even with a life time membership I think you're limited to 8 toons?  Likely you can buy more I guess.  I won't be buying 50+ more though.  And I liked having that freedom of still being able to make plenty more heroes that CoH offered.  One friend there had over 100 toons.  He used the costume slots as well!  That's a lot of creating!

I'm still solo at CO.  Actually the first my first community experience there was a person who sent me a team invite out of the blue.  I was involved in an area event at the time so figured he was there somewhere too.  He never said anything to me, and I was busy with the mission so didn't have time to chat, then a few minutes later all I got was, "Fool," and he was gone.  Not the best first impressions for me, a guy who already feels stupid in most computer games of any type, even at an experienced level.  I've teamed with a few others.  It's nice because it makes me remember my good teaming experiences on CoH.  I've tried to connect with the CoH community there, but not hard enough I guess.  I do like that there's all kinds of different toons.  It's fun to watch them.  I wish the graphics were better though.  The main things for me are the graphics.  I'm kind of attached to the CoH appearance, rather than looking like a two dimensional character moving about in a comic book, which is what CO is to me.  And my lack of understanding the game mechanics and systems.  I need my patient teachers who are natural experts.  So I'm just not inspired to pay to play.  Not like I was with CoH.  CoH got me paying just on the game alone, before I knew anyone there.  You create and you play, level to four and Fly!  I wonder if that would be different if I'd not experienced CoH first?  I guess I should play it properly, since it's the genre I want and I won't be doing DCUO!

An email told me that now Tera was the game of choice, so I looked into that.  It's ok.  No wings and I can't fly and standard creators with limited avatar selection and what looks like yet another system to learn.  Really after almost a year of having my hand held in CoH I was only just starting to gain any comprehension of what to do.  Maybe in a few years I'd be really good at building and slotting a CoH toon.  A more recent email seems to show that Tera has failed the test!  Ha!  I never even found them on there!  It's ok for what it is I guess, but I won't pay for it.

Found out about Marvel Heros Beta testing somewhere and signed up for that, and the fools let me in!  At least it's Marvel Heroes and has that potential.  The story is enjoyable, and my limited experience is pleasant so far, all beta issues aside.  However, it fails for me.  I know these heroes.  Most of them aren't my preference.  I usually wound up liking the more obscure characters.  Meaning they are less likely to be made into playable characters in the future.  And I'm really glad I've not heard, "just like Diablo" for a while because it was getting really annoying and it holds absolutely no meaning for me, having never experienced Diablo, and I'm not really wanting to now.  My main issue is obvious I'm sure.  And made worse because in a video they addressed the question at a presentation at a NYC comic convention.  No creatable characters.  Their reasoning:  they showed a picture of a guy with three forks taped on one hand and three butter knives taped on the other and said because no one wants to see knife and fork Wolverine.  (Immediately part of my mind was thinking, would I make that if I could?)  Come on.  Really, what kind of stupid lame excuse is that!?!  It's the kind of lame excuse, my mind answers, that someone who wants to avoid the question would give!  I'm looking at these guys thinking they have a chance at something great here, and they're missing it completely!  Kind of like if Coke goes out of business and they start selling fruit drinks.  Their second excuse: Loosely quoted - "because seeing nine Iron Mans running around blasting bad guys is 'kind of cool!'"  Ugh!  No.  No Marvel Heroes.  No it isn't.  It's bloody confusing and bland and lame and weak and AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!  And, what they call flying is not flying.  I typed that loudly and will leave it at that (except that they seem to think it's out of this world).  Good points.  Cut scenes have voice overs for weak but passable static comic book pictures.  Heroes have voiced comments that cue on proximitiy to specific other heroes or specific situations like leveling or finding a medal or standing idle.  I really never understood how CoH could have missed out on having these basics.  No one knows, but I used to do my own voice overs for the CoH cut scenes!

Marvel Heroes is fine for the standard player that has a limited imagination and has never known or wanted more.  Then again, the majority of the populations don't like to do their own thinking do they?  I don't mind too much the awkward point of perspective, but I do mind not being able to get a first person perspective.  The game is challenging at times but at the same time manageable for a bad player like me.  Sadly, the best part of the game is it is/will be free to play.  This is good because I won't be paying to play it.  Too bad for me that I will not be spending money to get a specific character to play.  The game isn't that good.  It goes back to wasting money on frugal things.  The fact that I won't be buying a character I like will mean I'll probably not be playing it so much as I might.  I think the sole drive that will keep this game interesting to people who want to pay for it will be in putting out new playable heroes.  Though it is really nice to recognize places, characters, and things one may know from knowledge of the Marvel universes, I don't see that it has a long life expectancy.

So I'm here on Titan again.  Trying to find a spark of hope that the two projects by players-for players to make a (better than) CoX is really going to happen, and will it happen before I die?





I'm like Starship above me here.  I could have posted with just his final two paragraphs and left it at that.  Only I express a lot.  My sense of loss is profound and I got very sad, and angry, and so on and I still deal with these reactions months later now.

I don't feel that Starship or I or anyone was stupid to feel our emotions because in our reality these characters did exist as our selves, our friends, our companions, and our heroes.

I'll never knowingly help NoCompassionSoft with any support from my wallet or opinions.  I'll actually go out of my way to denounce them if I get the chance and anyone cares to listen.  Their track record is warning enough given what is on wiki about them, and their blatant disregard for their customers solidifies my resolve in this.  I won't even look at GW2 for free to play.  I'm ok with cutting off my nose to spite my face here if that's what I'm doing.  It's challenging for me to dislike something that I want to hate instead.  I try to avoid hating.  It's a lot of effort to not write to NoCompassionSoft and tell them what I really think about them for doing this, foul language included.

I'd pay twice as much and more to be able to keep playing CoH.  My friends say they understand that I miss the game.  They watched me experience it and had to sit through me blabbing on about it.  I trust them when they say they have an idea of how important CoH has been to me.  My personal life is full of crap.  CoH quickly became my therapeutic escape.

I miss my friends.  I miss teaming.  I miss the community.  I miss mauling Sappers with vengeance.  I miss laughing every single time I jumped off the edge of the platform at Ouroboros to free fall and land in the pool!  I did that a lot!  I miss the game itself.  And yes, I miss my heroes.  I don't miss it any less than I did before.  I want it back.  Now.

I'm still waiting and watching.  I haven't forgotten.  I'll be there to beta test our new home if they'll have me for that.  Please, anyone with anything they think I should be aware of in regards to this quote me or message me some how if possible so I can know where to watch.

This is good stuff.

I actually read it all. Long text dont bother me. Hell, I have to read stuff ten times as long in an hour for class so this is really short to me. To some, anything over three or four lines thye get bored. I guess not everyone like reading but I like that opening line where off the top it is known it is long but ya writing it for more yourself than for everyone else. Kind of kills the moans and groans from people saying "It's too long for me." "It was too many words for me. "It took too long to read for me." "you're supposed to keep the reader in mind, which is me." and such.

Glad you had good time and good people you came across in COX. Not sure what was up with that "fool" guy in CO. Sounds liek a pogue having a bad day or something, but I noticed something over there in CO even with ex-COX players. Not much team chatter going on, but lot of complaints about lack of team chatter. ??? I dont get it. I tried talking on teams, usually end up with one word answers if any at all. Keep in mind this is just normal team. One guy was complaining in team chat for at least the past 15 minutes about how no one talks in CO and no one is friendly and how in COX, people always talked to each other and such. So we in COX channel got on a mission team, something I rarely do in the first place, and just decided to do mission with social stuff in mind. No rush. This guy was more than clammed up than a glues up oyster. Between me and a couple of the other guys, we tried every angle to start a convo with this guy but ironically he wasnt interested it seemed. Reason why people dont talk much on teams is because people dont talk on teams. Just as easy as it's form a team, sometimes somethign as simple as "what's up" Or "LEEEEEEEEEEERRRROY Jenkins" can get some semblence of conversation started. If it's quiet on a team, it's easy to say anything. Smash alerts, understandable, 2 minutes, not much time for talking but not much excuse for other times especially when a few other team mates are being social. Or that guy just needed something to vent about and that was an easy subject to vent about that he figured no one was going to test out.

That is the main thing I liked about COX and like about CO. Customization. Although I heard Marvel is a cool game, I'm not comic book fan. I'm a creative fan. Meaning, I dont care to play Spiderman, or Wolverine along with the tons of spiderman and wolverines with a Hulk thrown in there every now and then. I like playing Heat Linger, Ace McGrain the street fighter, Dozen Minds, Toasty, and etc.

With  CO, I got one or two slots each level 40. The first 40 I got two new slots each one after that was one extra slot. I heard there is no limit but unlike COX where the slots are there already, just about, you unlock them beyond the first 8 by getting 40s. Which can be good or bad depending on the purpose. A serial alter will run out of slots quick while a person who makes a toon level them to 40 and then start a new one will never feel lack of space.


Overall you would think gamers would be more humbler towards new players as one point in time they all were bumbling newbies that didnt know their sword from their armor, that is unless they were born with the entire game of WoW, COX, CO, DCUO, and etc implanted in their brain from birth, then they had to learn it either on their own or from someone else.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LaughingAlex on March 18, 2013, 02:28:03 PM
It's been rough for me, particularly when I think about what the chars I ported over to CO could do in CoX, and it's so much more.  I cannot make teams near godlike like I could in CO, I cannot take on huge numbers of guys solo in CO(the game just won't allow me to up the mob count, so I end up just killing more mobs at a time, and even then most rooms don't have very many enemies).  I also find the pet peves getting me more in CO(looking for a healer the primary one) than in CoX, because I know how weak crowd control and buffs are.  I also miss the variety of content, CO gets hardly any, and the devs don't seem to be focused enough on that problem.  Instead Cryptic seems more interested in just putting out a new game that will likely over-extend them when it comes to making content.  The latest QA was also very poorly done, the devs had a lot of "We don't want to do this" written in their answers.  Especially with regards to the foundary, which is what most CoX crossover players want, big time.  This unwillingness to do so hurts everyones confidence, and can you blame them?  Neverwinter online and Startrek online use the exact same game engine, it's inexcusable.  I really do want to see CoX back but I worry that won't happen at the rate we are going.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Botzo on March 18, 2013, 05:07:30 PM
This is good stuff.

I actually read it all. Long text dont bother me. Hell, I have to read stuff ten times as long in an hour for class so this is really short to me. To some, anything over three or four lines thye get bored. I guess not everyone like reading but I like that opening line where off the top it is known it is long but ya writing it for more yourself than for everyone else. Kind of kills the moans and groans from people saying "It's too long for me." "It was too many words for me. "It took too long to read for me." "you're supposed to keep the reader in mind, which is me." and such.

Glad you had good time and good people you came across in COX. Not sure what was up with that "fool" guy in CO. Sounds liek a pogue having a bad day or something, but I noticed something over there in CO even with ex-COX players. Not much team chatter going on, but lot of complaints about lack of team chatter. ??? I dont get it. I tried talking on teams, usually end up with one word answers if any at all. Keep in mind this is just normal team. One guy was complaining in team chat for at least the past 15 minutes about how no one talks in CO and no one is friendly and how in COX, people always talked to each other and such. So we in COX channel got on a mission team, something I rarely do in the first place, and just decided to do mission with social stuff in mind. No rush. This guy was more than clammed up than a glues up oyster. Between me and a couple of the other guys, we tried every angle to start a convo with this guy but ironically he wasnt interested it seemed. Reason why people dont talk much on teams is because people dont talk on teams. Just as easy as it's form a team, sometimes somethign as simple as "what's up" Or "LEEEEEEEEEEERRRROY Jenkins" can get some semblence of conversation started. If it's quiet on a team, it's easy to say anything. Smash alerts, understandable, 2 minutes, not much time for talking but not much excuse for other times especially when a few other team mates are being social. Or that guy just needed something to vent about and that was an easy subject to vent about that he figured no one was going to test out.

That is the main thing I liked about COX and like about CO. Customization. Although I heard Marvel is a cool game, I'm not comic book fan. I'm a creative fan. Meaning, I dont care to play Spiderman, or Wolverine along with the tons of spiderman and wolverines with a Hulk thrown in there every now and then. I like playing Heat Linger, Ace McGrain the street fighter, Dozen Minds, Toasty, and etc.

With  CO, I got one or two slots each level 40. The first 40 I got two new slots each one after that was one extra slot. I heard there is no limit but unlike COX where the slots are there already, just about, you unlock them beyond the first 8 by getting 40s. Which can be good or bad depending on the purpose. A serial alter will run out of slots quick while a person who makes a toon level them to 40 and then start a new one will never feel lack of space.


Overall you would think gamers would be more humbler towards new players as one point in time they all were bumbling newbies that didnt know their sword from their armor, that is unless they were born with the entire game of WoW, COX, CO, DCUO, and etc implanted in their brain from birth, then they had to learn it either on their own or from someone else.

This. This so much. I'm normally the silent type, but there just was something about City and the people within that I loved. It felt like it was a legitimate massively multiplayer game. You wouldn't necessarily play only to get "the" best gear. There would be times where you would join a taskforce just to socialize with others, even if your character didn't need to. There really wasn't really any activities that required you to have the best enhancements beyond a select few, like a no death Statesman TF run. On top of it all, you could talk about anything. And someone would talk back to you. Want to complain about work? Go ahead. Want to roleplay? Go ahead. Rarely anyone would criticize you, and more likely that person would try to help first than complain about you. Granted I'm like the person that complains all the time about unfriendly people in CO, but I admit it's more the fact I need to open up more and take an initiative. When no one wants to lead, someone has to stand up, or everyone will just stay in their own caves.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on March 20, 2013, 12:09:04 AM
, but I admit it's more the fact I need to open up more and take an initiative. When no one wants to lead, someone has to stand up, or everyone will just stay in their own caves.

Oh yeah. it's like a dance. Everyone stand along the wall staring at each other until some brave soul gets on the dance floor. Then within ten minutes everyone is on the dance floor. Someone has to start it or everyone will stand on the side wondering who will go first.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyVamp on March 20, 2013, 12:51:54 AM
There is a vacancy in my heart thanks to the shutting down of City of Heroes/City of Villains.  Most of you if you played on Freedom knew me as one of the mice of Rodent Consortium.  Leader of green team against hami in hami raids.  Though sometimes on Lady Vamp (or Lady-Vamp as the LV was taken on Freedom), I wore the black body armor with the red inserts.

A day doesn't go by that I don't think of coh.  I've tried the other hero games, but they can never take the place of coh.  I played since issue 2.  Never taking a break.  And never converting to F2P.  It became part of my life and you friends.  I watched this grow from nothing into a powerhouse.  I was there from the beginning.

How am I handling the loss?  I want my city back, NCSoft.  I want my friends back.  Your MMO started as a game taking a new direction.  It became a place where people with common interests could come hang out.  Share ideas.  Enjoy the good times.  Cry over the bad times.  Imagine coming home from work one day to find your home gone.  Your friends, gone.  Where there used to be great joy, now there is nothing.

And speaking of new direction, where virtually all other MMOs were locked in a genera, coh could go anywhere.  Why not create other zones.  I would have loved to go back in time and fight the nazis Germany (I don't mean the 5th column or the council we had).  Go to the wild west of the Americas.  Play in the untamed outback of Australia.  Fought along side samurai in feudal Japan.  All of those were possible and even believable in coh.

Much thought has gone into this not by just me but everyone.  Much debate I've read on numerous sites.  I've even thought of pulling together all of you who are serious about rebuilding this.  Form our own company owned by the players.  Rehire, if possible, the core developers of coh.  We could run it as a cooperative.  Elect a board of directors out of the player/owners.  It was just a thought but I feel if we are to revive our city, we will have to do it alone without Disney or Google or any of the number of companies talked to.

I realize I digress.  You asked how am I handling the loss.  I'm not happy about it though I do look at the part of my personal, private wiki dedicated to my toons, my sg and the base it owned.

If enough are willing to consider making our own company and if enough of the devs would be willing to get on board, we just might have a chance to rebuild and be heroes (and villains) again.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TerminalVelocity on March 20, 2013, 01:10:22 AM
I'm still thinking of new toons, almost everyday, and of course that just makes me sad. (It hit particularly hard when I finally figured out how to pull of one concept I'd had for years with the costume peices that were about to be released.)

I myself would say I'm doing well overall, though. I've completely clawed myself out of the depression that the closing or CoX caused.(Or perhaps just worsened.)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Risha on March 23, 2013, 03:18:32 AM
As I've said in a couple of posts tonight, it's Friday night and snowing and I want to PLAY City of Heroes.  I've watched videos to keep my memory sharp of the city.  I downloaded and logged on to Neverwinter and left...I've played thousands of hours with arrow keys and having to learn the WASD whatever doesn't do it for me.  I miss my city, either solo or teaming.  Robin
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on March 23, 2013, 08:25:28 AM
I am coping by logging into Titan Network forums (yet again) and reading and posting blogs, rather than having an adventure (solo or teamed) on one of my many CoH avatars.  (Insomnia can be such a gift!)  :D

Oh, and IF this is okay (if not, I humbly request Moderation and/or Censure) I have recently gotten into this youtube series by a Tibetan Buddhist nun whose talks I find uplifting, rational, spiritual and non-religious.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0L-MQaxRAU 7:18 of "Transforming problems pt 1" Thubten Chodron  (I really recommend giving part 1 and part 2 a chance as you make up your own mind about what she is saying.)

I also cope by listening to favorite music, such as "Beat Patrol" by Jefferson Starship, 1987 (back when I was a mere lad of 27)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VabzPmlaWOI   Enjoy!!!!!  (Assuming my taste in music isn't too archaic.)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Aura Controller on March 24, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
Thoth Mer

"I was spending time with my heroes who are real to me in a world where our realities juxtaposed."

I have only read to that line so far but, plan on reading the rest.
I just wanted to say that I loved, love, and always will love all of my Heroes, Villains and the ones that fall into the Grey patch in the middle.
As a matter of a fact the more time that go's by I find myself starting books slowly but surly for all of them.

Also I have (Yes I said have because no one can take her or any of my creations from my heart.) this one girl her name is Willow Hemera anyone on here ever meet her? Virtue server. Heh. Anyway she is so unique from any other of my creations she actually knew she was in a game and created by me who as she referred to as her voice. Also have a book for her in the works. Heh.

Anyway what I really wanted to say I guess is that to me. All my creations are real if only in text and in my mind now. They will forever be real so long as paper last or I live.

And I am doing a LOT better as of late. I really think it is the fact that I am making books for all my girls and guys to live in forever.

Take care guys. Peace!  8)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Risha on April 07, 2013, 06:21:48 AM
While waiting for the patch to load on The Secret World, I hit the forums here and spent all night here.  Guess I am still not dealing with the loss well.  I want COX back.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on April 11, 2013, 06:06:17 AM
Even now, it is still difficult to watch videos. I still have days where I long to traverse the City streets and become a special part of myself.
I never thought I could miss my CoH so much....
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: DJMoose on April 11, 2013, 06:16:57 AM
Today?  Not too well...

You can see my post here (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7452.msg113465.html#msg113465) in the "I really miss this game" thread.

So yeah... :-\
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: MaidMercury on April 13, 2013, 03:03:26 PM
To be honest, I've grown tired of feeling sorrow.
But haven't thrown in the Towel.

Just trying to see if any new plan of action comes up.
I've already written letters, 'liked' articles, voted here,there, and now waiting on some Save CoH banner project to come to light.
[ex:so I can help fund it.] heck, I'd even donate to help some saavy business person acquire it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Wammo on April 13, 2013, 05:53:41 PM
I'm not today  :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: candidate on April 13, 2013, 08:00:29 PM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tanklet on April 14, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Not dealing with it well. No other game has attracted me as much. What I wouldn't give to see Atlas, or Studio 55, or the wards ... What I wouldn't give to make an AE arc. ... I have this strong urge and desire to write ... but it just feels like something's holding me back. .. CoH was my creative outlet for years. Life's not been the same since D-Day
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: HEATSTROKE on April 14, 2013, 10:58:40 PM
Someone else on this forum said it best.. I am not an MMO player.. I am a CoH player..

Let me just share some of my grief...

Im missing so so many of my characters right now..
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on April 14, 2013, 11:04:31 PM
Remembering in particular flying straight through Steel Canyon only to land majestically in front of the Midnighter's Club so I could log out in the University.  I teach English in real life, so it fit that I would log out there when I could.

:)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tanklet on April 14, 2013, 11:56:17 PM
Daria St. Claire Smith - Wife, mother of 2, archmage, philanthropist, teacher, heroine

Kiara Drako - Wife, mother of one, demigoddess, heroine

Sera Delina Drako - Half dragon, half demi, daughter of Kiara, somewhat betrothed to Victor Smith (Daria's son), powerful heroine

Sonja Kincaid - Ex Knives, her story was the one that was least complete. Had her heart broken, and now doesn't know which side of the law she'd rather be on. My pseudo anti hero with a heart she keeps hidden behind stone. Currently with someone who cares for & loves her, but she won't let herself feel the same.

Amanda Dillinger - A grounded, well rounded college student, possessed by darkness itself, but has the power to use it for good. She had some bumps along the way, but ended up better than when she began.

Kat McBain - A freelance journalist whose love of ancient artifacts sort of backfired on her. She never got much game play. Her stories just never began...

Incarna St. Claire - Daria from another dimension, a demon summoner who sought only revenge after the one man she loved was killed. It didn't matter that he was a killer himself. She was destroyed in her quest for revenge, but that only sent her back to a realm that does her bidding. Never got the chance to bring her back.

Gina Wyatt - Hacker, thief, and all around quirky girl. So much lost potential

:(

Yeah ... I'm mourning my characters just a lil ... :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on April 15, 2013, 10:34:14 AM
I realized another reason why CoH is unique the other day, while trying to fight endgame mobs in another game, and dying repeatedly.  My character was at the level cap, with exceptionally good gear, but the enemies had approximately twice as much HP and did twice as much damage as I did (and were about 20-30 levels higher than I was - even though I was at the level cap, that cap doesn't apply to monsters).  These weren't bosses or any major enemies, mind you, just wandering mobs on the overworld.  And I couldn't beat a single one of them.

And my friends are giving me advice, saying "Well, you have to memorize the exact range of their attacks and make sure you stay out of it, and don't get in line with them even though all your attacks require you to be in line with them, and don't use summons even though summons are the main survival tool for your class because the mob will use the summon to teleport over to you", and on and on.  And I'm going "You know these are minions, right?  I shouldn't need to have Batman-level tactics just to beat one guy with a sword."

And that's when realization struck - CoH is the only game that, for the most part, let the player dictate the pace of the fights.  A player could build their character so that the character's powers were things the enemies had to work to overcome, rather than the other way around.  Whether it was my Energy Melee Brute stunning everyone she came across, or my Dominators mezzing bosses left and right, or just my Electric Melee Brute knocking everyone around him down with Lightning Rod and Thunderstrike (and Air Superiority), I felt like I was in control of the majority of my fights (with the main exceptions being large group AV fights and Incarnate trials).

I don't feel in control like that in any other MMO, but that complete lack of control and random enemies who can completely crush you unless you have perfect strategy seem to both be industry standards.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nebularian on April 15, 2013, 01:10:14 PM
How am I handling the loss?  hmmm.  I thought pretty well.  But the other night, I actually dreamed of doing the Midnighter arc in Steel Canyon.

Clear as day, I saw heroes leaping down into the caverns below the building, battling the Lost.  Granted, I went to sleep thinking of how I wanted to handle a situation in my fan-fiction.....but to dream it so clearly?  I mean, I even dreamed about the confusion as the group split, some heading to the right while the others went left when the heroes hit the fork.

sigh.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on April 16, 2013, 07:42:26 PM
Was looking through some truly ancient screenies today. They were before I got a computer upgrade.

I miss the game, especially the Isles, so badly it almost physically hurts. I just want to be on a lowbie, standing by the Arbiter at the Port Oakes arena. Other players running up, leveling up and then running off. The drones hovering there, humming. There's the vendor over there, one block over. Let's go inside and pick up a few inspirations before I go wale on Lt. Blechy. He will not escape...!!!!

I miss all this so badly it hurts.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Absolute on April 17, 2013, 03:47:06 AM
To answer the title;

I'm actually getting a bit better in CoH, even though I haven't been able to play it. Mechanics in other games have made me realize some things I'd never seen in CoH.

Just today I created a Mids build for a Kat/Regen that would have completely destroyed my previous Claw/Regen. If only I were as creative then as now. Instead of spamming Divine Avalanche with procs to get both the defense/offense, I should have built pure offense/DPS and slot divine avalanche for pure defense, then switch between the two when necessary, rather than try to be an in-between. I'm sure this mistake cost me a lot of fights.

I also realized that my blaster was built wrong. A DPS blaster doesn't beat a burst blaster by out-damaging it quickly, but rather by surviving long enough to out DPS it. I made the mistake of going the first route, and straight for damage. If I had built mostly survivability, I would casually out-damage it over time. A burst character's weakness is a tanky character. I've only learned that recently in other games.

Aside from that, I'm playing other games. Minecraft, DayZ, LoL, APB to name a few.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Harpospoke on April 18, 2013, 03:55:50 AM
Got a question.

I, like others, deleted the NCsoft updater.   Or so I thought.   I just checked my start-up programs with CCleaner and this is listed:  HKCU:run   NCsoft

I can't disable it...but I do have the option to delete it...is that safe to do?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on April 18, 2013, 07:46:23 AM
Go ahead, you won't need it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Harpospoke on April 18, 2013, 08:14:23 PM
Go ahead, you won't need it.
Thanks.   :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyVamp on April 19, 2013, 12:15:54 AM
When I'm feeling the need to see the world of coh again, I usually just watch:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9IFDGRp6tk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9IFDGRp6tk)

Brings a tear to me eye.  They did a great job pulling it together.  :'(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: HEATSTROKE on April 19, 2013, 02:21:52 AM
Basically im not playing anything right now.. havent played a video game in months.. have a new rig and nothing to play.. no interest in anything...

what I hate the most is that I made some of my best toons right before they annouced the end..

Shiv'R Ice/Thorn Dominator with Perma-Dom and soft capped to S/L

Reactor Rad/Fire Blaster softcapped to S/L/E.. he was a PbAoE monster... he could melt most mobs in three attacks..

sigh... I hate you NCSoft...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: BitLoadR on April 19, 2013, 08:47:11 AM
Handling a loss like this?
Nearly impossible for me!

I didn't play when November arrived. Something I still regret every day!

After I had to leave Paragon City in 2009 because of financial issues, I went into a small depression. Something my wife can acknowledge. I was bad tempered more often, couldn't vent my stress or frustrations properly and finding a replacement for CoH proved impossible. I tried F2P mmo's of all kinds. I tried single player games like Splinter Cell and Assassins Creed to find distraction. But images of Atlas Park, Peregrine Island, Talos Island and the Chantry kept appearing in my mind.

Then CoH went F2P...I was saved! Once again I could enter the world I loved more than my real life (yes it's true). The day CoH went F2P I reactivated my 2 accounts. All my characters were still there. I had to delete a few because I was now a Premium player and not a VIP. But my most precious characters were all there.

Entering Atlas Park with my main felt so good! The view was stunning!

And then it was all blown to 'bits' by NCSoft!
I felt betrayed...as if stabbed in the back by a 4 year old that doesn't want to share its toys.

I never gave up though. My characters live on and have their adventures in stories I write.
And once I learned about Icon, the offline character creator, I decided to put my CoH Fansite back online.
Now I'm redesigning the site, pulling data from CIT about my characters, rewriting stories and soon start learning how to
code demos so I can make videos.

Even though I'm nearly heartbroken with NCSoft's action...CoH was never dead to me. I could never get it off my mind.
It will never leave my heart!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Joshex on April 27, 2013, 04:44:45 AM
ok, I still have loss handling issues................................................................

I am not handling this well at all.... I admit, I geniuely love City of Heroes, it was a great game even as a game critic I could find nothing in it's gameplay or atmosphere/context to complain about..........

and thats saying allot especially seeing as I complain about the smallest tiniest little thing that could have been better!!!

city of heroes was and still is, the only way for me to live my superhero fantasies... and of coarse the only place I can ever communicate with such fine people and generally have fun messing around defeating evil or joining it or even siding with tyrant heheheh.

the straw that broke the camel's back for me is that CoH was the only game my Girlfriend would play with me, no other MMO's interest her, infact I will say this, in many ways City of heroes was the best long distance relationship counselor I could ask for. weather it was playing the game and forgetting about the distance between us for a few hours, or weather it was the contextual support from the players, It helped so tremendously and every day my girlfriend is away I struggle to keep her sane about the relationship without CoH and my friend(s) help.

I don't care what it takes to get CoH back, I don't care if I have to side with an enemy of the USA, maybe we should introduce Kim Jong Un to the game and have him attack S Korea and demand the surrender of CoH to annother company, heck I'd take a bullet for the guy who does that!

without CoH, my life, relationship and me are in an insane turmoil that I don't see a way out of easily, and believe me I'm trying every day to figure out a way!!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tahliah on April 27, 2013, 11:42:24 AM
Horribly.  I miss COH so much that it physically hurts sometimes, and there is no other game that comes even close to it.  I tried so many and even thought I could stick with a couple, but no. It's COH for me.  Or nothing.  So I guess it's nothing.  It makes me so sad.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Fulcrum on April 27, 2013, 01:43:16 PM
Yea, I'm not dealing with it all that well, either...  I've been sitting here in front of the machine listening to the music-files from CoH...  and when the original title-screen music cycled to the top of the queue I just about choked up a little bit.

I'm not a very emotional person at heart, generally pretty relaxed, easy going with a 'F-it' sort of attitude with things I can't change.   But I haven't managed to do that with CoX.  Not even close.

CoX held a really special place for me.  It was my home away from home for years while I was off working so far from home.  Even when GDN hit in Issue 5... and then ED right after in Issue 6 set things on their ear I never let my paid account run dry.  (I did, however, cancel out of protest each time... but re-subscribed before my paid time ran out.)

... and while the game was changing pretty quickly with new issues, powers, and such coming out... I never felt like the rug was pulled out from under me.

*sigh*  And as I was about to post, the 'Villain mission-complete' just played.   Ironic. ;)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on April 28, 2013, 05:00:07 AM
I just started playing League of Legends, for various reasons (none of which involve actually enjoying MOBAs or any sort of PvP at all - so far, all my games have been against AI bots, who usually pound me into the dirt).

Playing it just reminds me once again how much of a gigantic gap there is between a CoH Tanker (an indestructible stone wall - possibly literally - who is usually the last to fall, if he falls at all) and any other MMO "tank" (a slightly-less squishy character who has to have at least one person dumping healing spells on him all the time).

It also makes me realize that part of the reason I liked CoH so much is that not only did any team combination and powerset combination work, it also didn't require you to be a master strategist to win every single fight.

I want CoH back.  More and more every day.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on April 28, 2013, 07:24:45 AM
while i still long for coh, im not so much sad anymore as i am extremely bitter and angry at ncsoft, they have burned their bridges and given me a good reason to hold a grudge against them until such a time as they release the game, even if they release it i cant say that i wont ever forget what they did and not be angry at them

in the meantime though im basically going through my massive list of steam games to try new things, cant really get into any mmos though as all of them are disappointing to me and just dont fit my playstyle
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Amph on April 28, 2013, 08:26:22 AM
while i still long for coh, im not so much sad anymore as i am extremely bitter and angry at ncsoft, they have burned their bridges and given me a good reason to hold a grudge against them until such a time as they release the game, even if they release it i cant say that i wont ever forget what they did and not be angry at them

in the meantime though im basically going through my massive list of steam games to try new things, cant really get into any mmos though as all of them are disappointing to me and just dont fit my playstyle

Thunder Glove, I too have gravitated to LoL.  I think because it is easy, and I am not emotionally invested.  With CoH I was...  with every single toon I had...  Interesting point...

And, I don't like the fact that others have decided what I can, or in this case, cannot do.  I "Cant play City of Heroes", no matter what I do...  Not used to Not Getting My Way...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Night-Hawk07 on April 28, 2013, 09:12:51 AM
There's certainly a hole, but I really only hurt the night it went down. I guess the worst thing now is when I feel the itch to be heroic, there's nothing out there that scratches it. CoH did it better than any other. CO and DCUO just don't get the job done for me. I tended to take breaks in my play time, primarily cause I would play so much I'd burn out, but one way to get me back in was a crisis in the real world. Since I can't be a superhero and face off said crisis, I would jump into CoH and be that hero facing any number of crises. After what happened in Boston and West, Texas, I got that itch again, but due to our situation, I had to jump into CO. However, I'm still feeling pretty empty even after playing for the past week or so. CO, and to a greater extent DC, just doesn't cut it, doesn't make me feel heroic like CoH did. I think that's what I miss most. I sure hope the "spiritual successors" can pull that off, and be able to quench that thirst.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ashen Fury on April 28, 2013, 11:52:59 AM
I recently reset my phone, and it seemed like a perfect time to make a couple new ringtones / notification tones.

So now, whenever I get a message or email, I get the hero mission complete tune, and I have the "new" atlas park theme as my actual ringtone. Makes me smile.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Von Krieger on April 28, 2013, 12:23:44 PM
I'm still getting urges to play. CoH was my go to game for when I wanted to watch some TV or listen to a podcast or something.

I want to play so damned badly I'm actually DREAMING about playing the game and/or it being back.

It happened in three different dreams last night.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Noyjitat on April 28, 2013, 01:57:01 PM
While it will never fill the gap in my heart I have fell in love with my characters in DCUO and Champions. Sadly everytime I go to Arkam Island I think about Mother Mayhems hospital or when I goto ACE Chemicals I think about Crey's Folly. And then encountering brainiac npcs; especially the green and black ones remind me of headman gunman rikti. MY god I want to run an MSR so badly.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on April 29, 2013, 02:23:09 AM
Thunder Glove, I too have gravitated to LoL.  I think because it is easy, and I am not emotionally invested.  With CoH I was...  with every single toon I had...  Interesting point...

I don't know if "gravitated" is the right word.  I'm not really enjoying it.

I die way too much because CoH has skewed my perception of how survivable a Tank should be.  Every time I die I want to scream at the other players "This guy you claim is a tank takes 45% damage for six seconds and 100% damage the rest of the time!  That is not a tank!"  It really says something about CoH vs. other games that their "ultimate" Defensive Mastery skill is a whopping 3% reduction in damage.

And I hate how difficult the so-called "Beginner" bots are.  I can only kill one if I have at least one other person helping me.  One-on-one, I just die (even if I started the fight with more health).  I don't know how I'm going to handle Intermediate bots, let alone actual players without predictable patterns. I don't find the game easy at all.  Every fight is an exercise in frustration, and, while my team has won fights, I haven't had any direct influence on those victories.

And I hate how gear-focused the game is.  Mastering all the +Health skills nets you 31 extra HP at level 1 (or 138 extra HP at max level); a cheap amulet at level 1 adds 180.  And yet even the gear with the best bonuses never seems to help me survive.

And I hate how long each battle takes.  (Especially since I spend so much of each one faceplanted)

Most of all, I hate that I can't play the character I actually want. Before I started playing the game, I looked over the Champion list, found one who sounded interesting, and said to myself "There. That's my main.  When I get into the game, I'm choosing that one!"

... only to learn that the character I wanted is not available to new F2P players (and in fact is one of the most expensive Champions in the game), so I'm stuck with playing goofy-looking scarecrows and blatant 8-Bit Theater ripoffs.  I like creating my own characters, not having to pick from a limited pool of preselected characters (and that pool will change in a few days, so any tricks I've managed to pick up so far will be useless to me).

On top of that, it turns out my computer's OS is a little too old to properly run the game, and so I can't access the in-game store to unlock any Champions, even though I have enough IP for a couple of Heroic-tier characters so I could at least have something resembling a "main" until I save up enough IP to get the character I actually wanted to play.  Or so I thought.


... part of how I'm handling the loss is ranting about how much other games seem to be doing their best at being exactly the OPPOSITE of everything I loved about CoH.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on April 29, 2013, 05:34:05 AM
at times I still feel......................

(https://i.imgur.com/dmSUmi8.gif)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ice Trix on April 29, 2013, 10:09:02 AM
at times I still feel......................

(https://i.imgur.com/dmSUmi8.gif)

The same. Then I come onto these boards and not sure if it makes it worse by recalling memories or better for reminding me of the fun I had.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyVamp on April 30, 2013, 01:12:57 AM
Played the mp3s for coh today while playing gw2.  didn't realize how the villain music fit gw2 so well especially M1 and M9.  M9 is the opener for cov during toon selection and M1 is played when you enter Ghost widow's base in mercy island.

Brought back some memories.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: hejtmane on April 30, 2013, 04:03:23 AM
Bored out of my freakin gourd  tried to go back to rift boring snooze not able to raid on a regular basis and if I could I was behind on gear the grind to get gear was painful and boring.

Diablo III snooze fest better to play the market then to play the game more interesting to many powers are worthless at higher levels.

I tried a really really old game Horizons but no real aoe everything is a 1 monster grind fight. Only nice part is multi classing but just to blah after playing COH.

I mean the best i ever did at any game prior to COH was two max level toons. Until coh then I got 9 toons to 50 and 5 of those before IO's. The replay factor made it fun and if I stepped away for a bit I came back and it was still great.

Right now I have no clue everything coming out looks so blah. I am about to be back to playing solitaire for fun it is more entertaining than most the MMO's coming out






Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ironwolf on April 30, 2013, 01:27:03 PM
I play Left For Dead 2 - running a Campaign game is similar to a TF!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: DJMoose on May 01, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
It also makes me realize that part of the reason I liked CoH so much is that not only did any team combination and powerset combination work, it also didn't require you to be a master strategist to win every single fight.

I want CoH back.  More and more every day.
This.  Gone were the days of WoW where you had to get a tank and a healer...even in the days after the dungeon finder it was pretty annoying. 
I remember going through some missions with my katana/willpower scrapper Serkana and one of my friends with an invulnerability tanker.  We were facing the Lost, so he was pretty much resistant to everything BUT Psionic attacks, but as I had Willpower I was immune to most of it.  So the two of us cleared out some missions with the difficulty raised with him tanking and myself off tanking when he would wipe (due to psi attacks).  In what other game can I have a character that can DPS and Off-tank long enough for the tank to rez and come back?  Also, I would be having fun the entire time and not have a lick of frustration.

Man...Other MMOs just do not even come close to CoH in so many regards. :-\
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tanklet on May 01, 2013, 09:44:58 PM
This.  Gone were the days of WoW where you had to get a tank and a healer...even in the days after the dungeon finder it was pretty annoying. 
I remember going through some missions with my katana/willpower scrapper Serkana and one of my friends with an invulnerability tanker.  We were facing the Lost, so he was pretty much resistant to everything BUT Psionic attacks, but as I had Willpower I was immune to most of it.  So the two of us cleared out some missions with the difficulty raised with him tanking and myself off tanking when he would wipe (due to psi attacks).  In what other game can I have a character that can DPS and Off-tank long enough for the tank to rez and come back?  Also, I would be having fun the entire time and not have a lick of frustration.

Man...Other MMOs just do not even come close to CoH in so many regards. :-\

I loved the ease of teaming. I loved jumping on to random teams. I've not seen such a vast teaming community as I did in CoH

I also loved how specing made SENSE. AND you didn't HAVE to have set IOs. I can't tell you how many toons were fanke-SO'd ... And you didn't have to grind yourself senseless JUST for the chance of 1 piece of gear o.o ... Plus, tell me how many of us had those friends who were like "oh, you need xyz? Here you go! I have tons."
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyVamp on May 01, 2013, 11:16:27 PM
This.  Gone were the days of WoW where you had to get a tank and a healer...even in the days after the dungeon finder it was pretty annoying. 
I remember going through some missions with my katana/willpower scrapper Serkana and one of my friends with an invulnerability tanker.  We were facing the Lost, so he was pretty much resistant to everything BUT Psionic attacks, but as I had Willpower I was immune to most of it.  So the two of us cleared out some missions with the difficulty raised with him tanking and myself off tanking when he would wipe (due to psi attacks).  In what other game can I have a character that can DPS and Off-tank long enough for the tank to rez and come back?  Also, I would be having fun the entire time and not have a lick of frustration.

Man...Other MMOs just do not even come close to CoH in so many regards. :-\

I loved it from the other side when I could login on my emp/rad def and before I got the window where I could control my toon, I had 4 or more tells asking me to join the team.  I even loved it when players understood when I'd concentrate on keeping the tank alive because the mish was set too high and all that kept the tank going was heal other/healing aura chained.  I miss those days so much.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Cinnder on May 02, 2013, 08:02:09 PM
Well, this kinda sneaked up on me, though I should have seen it coming.

Saw (and enjoyed) IM3 today, and tonight the loss of CoX is hitting me harder than ever.  I never thought about it before, but for the past 8 years after any superhero movie I always came home and played my own heroes (or villains).

Tonight it feels like a gaping wound.  :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on May 03, 2013, 05:00:51 AM
Well, this kinda sneaked up on me, though I should have seen it coming.

Saw (and enjoyed) IM3 today, and tonight the loss of CoX is hitting me harder than ever.  I never thought about it before, but for the past 8 years after any superhero movie I always came home and played my own heroes (or villains).

Tonight it feels like a gaping wound.  :(
I know how you feel. Superhero movies and TV series have been my (oh so poor) replacement for CoH. I have lost count how many times I have watched IM1 & 2, Thor, Captain America, The Incredible Hulk, The Avengers, Green Lantern (both animated and live action), The Justice League, Sky Captain and the world of Tomorrow, etc.

Yeah, I have quite a collection of Superhero movies. Just like a lot of you, I'll bet. :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on May 03, 2013, 06:23:08 AM
Ive never been interested in playing LoL, i am severely turned off by PVP focused games
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on May 04, 2013, 01:21:46 AM
I deeply miss the community after a night like tonight.

I was just logged into Marvel Heroes for a few moments to see if a particular crash-inducing bug with cinematics had been fixed.  Apparently, though, I'm one of only two people who've reported this, so the tech guys don't have much to go on at the moment.  :(

I put up a call to the maybe thirty other people milling about in Avengers Tower, asking if anyone else were experiencing the same.  After about two or three minutes of dead silence, I finally got a reply saying that one guy hadn't.

In City, there'd be loads of broadcast and local chatter, and folks would have been more than willing to reply with a simple, "Not yet, Tubby," or "Yup, me too!" or some such.

I have great hopes for Marvel Heroes, and I want to see it do well now that it's hit open beta and releases on June 4, but I DO miss my City of Heroes friends.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LT. Couper on May 04, 2013, 04:09:57 AM
Well, I was hoping to make my 100th post a bit more important or profound, but this'll have to do.
Got home from watching IM3 with a bunch of my friends about two hours ago. None of them played CoH nearly as much as I did and only a few had even tried it, so I doubt they knew what I was going through (mostly because I didn't even realize I was going through it until a little while ago). I noticed that, naturally, I've been extremely focused on superheroes lately. I've been watching lots of Marvel movies and trying to find superhero games to play. I can't seem to get into CO for very long, so I've really been playing lots of single player games on my PS3. I've mostly been playing Batman: Arkham City, and Lego Batman2. Sadly, as these are single player games, it's quite lonely, and I find myself failing to fill the void left by a lack of in-game community. Many other MMOs are greatly lacking in player mobility. Such as when you jump, your character only does a jumping animation, not actually going anywhere. A lack of effective jumping is probably my biggest MMO peeve, even if I can't fly around a city, it's basic jumping that gets to me.

Anyway, there you go. That's my 100th post about how I'm coping 5 months post-sunset. I'm going to get some much needed sleep now.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: nataliaofvirtues on May 04, 2013, 06:02:49 AM
Hello All. I want to start this post by saying that I miss each and every one of you. Granted I did not know each of you personally, but I am sure I saw you somewhere in our homeland of COX. As far as how I am doing with our loss, I have to say not worth a hill of beans. I miss our game so badly that I recently bought the games City of Heroes, City of Villains and Going Rogue along with the City of Heroes game guide and a paperback called The Web of Arachnos. Now I have no idea what I am going to do with these things, but it made me feel a little better having them. I think I must be "one sick puppy". Anyway, I just wanted to say that I miss you all.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Perfidus on May 04, 2013, 06:09:10 AM
I miss you too. More importantly, I miss knowing you were in a game where I could find you and play with you and interact with you. Make friends with you.

And 'you' doesn't just mean you, Natalia. It means every poster on this board. I'm very sorry I didn't get to know some of you before the game was taken from us all.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nebularian on May 04, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
And 'you' doesn't just mean you, Natalia. It means every poster on this board. I'm very sorry I didn't get to know some of you before the game was taken from us all.

Imagination is a wonderful thing.   I don't think I actually played with very many of the people I have seen posting here, but I do recall seeing some of them.

I can and do imagine entire adventures with people I never actually adventured with....and it brings a smile to my face :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on May 05, 2013, 01:52:48 AM
Hello All. I want to start this post by saying that I miss each and every one of you. Granted I did not know each of you personally, but I am sure I saw you somewhere in our homeland of COX.

And it's sentiments like this that leave me convinced that any standalone solution that lets us take our characters back to Paragon City is going to be, at best, a stopgap solution, and, in some ways, worse than nothing. Paragon City was more than just the place; it was all of the heroes and villains that occupied it, and I won't be satisfied until I can greet all of you again on the streets of our city.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LaughingAlex on May 05, 2013, 03:33:04 PM
I myself find I miss city of heroes alot, often times even more with the recent happenings in CO(alot of shutdowns thanks to neverwinter being added to the server).  I find the biggest things I've felt I missed were things like time manipulation, water blast and storm summoning.  CO is a different game and I understand that, but I feel the lack of buffs/debuffs/crowd control really leaves CO a shallow game for me.  It's as if CO takes a step backwards when it comes to MMO's at times.  While I have made new friends in CO, and it'd make it painful for me to return to CoX at CO's expense, honestly i'd still return to CoX if it was rebooted.  I'll say I'm not handling it so well because of that.

I often feel like crap because of the "need" people have to have a healer around me, due to them playing archtypes that cannot support themselves in CO, I feel like I don't get to use half of my main characters actual in-character abilities in that game, because the options are either A: not there(such as staff fighting) or B: so pathetically weak as to be redundant and useless(telepathy).
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Lightslinger on May 06, 2013, 12:44:56 PM
Well, this kinda sneaked up on me, though I should have seen it coming.

Saw (and enjoyed) IM3 today, and tonight the loss of CoX is hitting me harder than ever.  I never thought about it before, but for the past 8 years after any superhero movie I always came home and played my own heroes (or villains).

Tonight it feels like a gaping wound.  :(

The extremis guys made me want a Fire Blaster/Brute again so bad... :gonk:

I'm the same way, whenever I watch any superhero movie/tv show I get so many ideas for CoH characters going.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on May 07, 2013, 07:10:58 PM
Same here.  Heck, not just straight-up superhero.  I look at characters from books, movies, tv shows, video games, even other MMOs, and I replicate them in my head as a CoH character.  It's one of the many reasons I can't enjoy any other MMO as much as CoH: I could easily make characters from, say, WoW in CoH, but not the other way around.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: antarcticaa on May 07, 2013, 11:59:29 PM
I had such a detailed CoX dream the other night that I was devastated when I woke up.  Dreamed I was teaming with new people on missions similar to those we all did in Peregrine and getting to know the other players in game chat.  That's what made us so different, that's what keeps going thru my mind- our community.  Lord I miss that.

Trying to salve some of the loss by reading VV's "Secret World Chronicles", Peter Clines' "Ex-Heroes" and Ernest Cline's "Ready Player One."  All good reads.  Enjoy the characters and plot-lines but just can't grab that feeling of interaction we shared in-game. 

::insert heavy sigh here::
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on May 08, 2013, 06:03:19 AM
I had such a detailed CoX dream the other night that I was devastated when I woke up.  Dreamed I was teaming with new people on missions similar to those we all did in Peregrine and getting to know the other players in game chat.  That's what made us so different, that's what keeps going thru my mind- our community.  Lord I miss that.

Trying to salve some of the loss by reading VV's "Secret World Chronicles", Peter Clines' "Ex-Heroes" and Ernest Cline's "Ready Player One."  All good reads.  Enjoy the characters and plot-lines but just can't grab that feeling of interaction we shared in-game. 

::insert heavy sigh here::

you might also give Wearing the cape (http://wearingthecape.com/) a try. It's not too bad a read, from the little of it I've experienced.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Joshex on May 12, 2013, 04:57:22 AM
Tony, anyone, if I die from a heart attack, please know that it was probably a lack of city of heroes that caused it, aka.. every time i remember Coh and CoV I .. I AHH I get such a STRONG urge to play and have to tell my subconscious that at the moment it's impossible, to which it responds by making my heart regurgitate it's own blood. so... yeah, if I get a heart attack, that could be a very nice thing to take NCSoft to court over.

it wouldn't make titan look bad and would probably get the rights to the IP released from NC's clenches. if it happens... just don't waste the opportunity ok?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nebularian on May 12, 2013, 01:40:47 PM
you might also give Wearing the cape (http://wearingthecape.com/) a try. It's not too bad a read, from the little of it I've experienced.

That's actually not a bad read.  I've read everything put out so far (2 books, one short, and one spin-off) and am waiting on the next!.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Joshex on May 13, 2013, 01:31:59 AM
the world must be about to end or something, everything is going to pot just as was prophesied, phuq, we may never get CoH back in time before the end..

everyday theres somehting that reminds me of Coh and today is no exception.. I saw IT... I had seen pictures in previous days and refuted THEM as work of a crappy artist who was trying to draw scenes... turns out.. I saw it as a video advertisement in a theater today...

Teen Titans Go...

they destroyed it.

normally when the outside world would destroy stuff I'd come back to CoH as it was a very safe ground for the absence concept destruction... but now it's not there..

it's all a conspiracy!! the companies are getting lazier and want to force us to accept poor quality half ass filth, but they can;t get away with it so long as there are decent quality mediums remaining.

well they wont be getting 1 cent from me!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on May 13, 2013, 06:18:13 AM
the teen titans remake has been advertised on tv for at least the last month, i personally never liked the original teen titans that was on cartoon network, but it was better than the remake

i dont think the same fate would befall our city should it get remade, in fact if anything one of projects being worked on may turn out equal to or better than the original
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Joshex on May 15, 2013, 03:16:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MmHDd82y1U

I miss pocket D, I still have my pocket D card... it's in my walet where ever I go, so if there is a superhero club out there I have my ID card lol
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: detour on May 20, 2013, 11:24:39 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i39.tinypic.com%2F9syn0z.jpg) 
Supergroup day was two days ago.  On Saturday, we wear yellow.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: nataliaofvirtues on May 21, 2013, 01:07:27 AM
There is not a single day goes by that I do not think of COH. I find it hard to believe just how impacting a game could/can be. When my stress level soars due to work/family, whatever, I just want to log into the game and lose myself for a while. The game actually kept my blood pressure in line. (I wonder if I could sue NCsoft for causing my BP to increase? lol) Anyway, I so much miss every aspect of the game that it still hurts. I just hope that some day we can all re-unite in Atlas Park or Genesis or Alpha city or whatever it may be called and once again feel the lure of COH. I hope next time whomever has the game understands the impact that such a game can and does have on the community. I miss you all!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on May 21, 2013, 04:34:18 AM
nataliaofvirtues, you put in words what my heart feels. Nobody understands this better than this community. CoH will never be 'just a game' to us.

(https://i.imgur.com/B6RpUyD.jpg)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 21, 2013, 06:06:37 AM
There is not a single day goes by that I do not think of COH. I find it hard to believe just how impacting a game could/can be. When my stress level soars due to work/family, whatever, I just want to log into the game and lose myself for a while. The game actually kept my blood pressure in line. (I wonder if I could sue NCsoft for causing my BP to increase? lol) Anyway, I so much miss every aspect of the game that it still hurts. I just hope that some day we can all re-unite in Atlas Park or Genesis or Alpha city or whatever it may be called and once again feel the lure of COH. I hope next time whomever has the game understands the impact that such a game can and does have on the community. I miss you all!

When I was so stressed at work, I would take just a second to think of whatever toon i was focussed on leveling up next, and how fun they were to play, and how much I was looking forward to spending some time with them next time I was off. I swear, my Fire/fire Blaster got me through my first nine months of work after I graduated from college. He was there waiting for me when I had a spare minute, never failed. He got me through some really rough stuff.

I tell you, its like NCSoft took FAMILY MEMBERS away from me! Seriously! This is horrible, I hope none of us ever have to lose something so dear to us, in such a way again. BECAUSE THIS IS SUCKING. It really is.

[I miss you, Julian. You will live forever in my heart.]
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 21, 2013, 06:08:18 AM
nataliaofvirtues, you put in words what my heart feels. Nobody understands this better than this community. CoH will never be 'just a game' to us.

(https://i.imgur.com/B6RpUyD.jpg)

When I first saw that signature banner on the official forums, I nearly cried. Because it is true.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on May 21, 2013, 06:15:46 AM
I've finally really opened up to reminiscing with a couple old friends who used to play City with me and my girlfriend.  It's sentimental, but it's good to talk things over.  Also, my fellow SG co-founder, from Justice, and I have gotten together on Marvel Heroes.  Since they're finally putting in a guild system, we're going to see what we can do on there to get some of the old gang back together.  :)

Now, if I can just convince my girlfriend to try that game, but she's on a laptop, and it's mouse-heavy thanks to its Diablo-esque setup. . . . :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on May 21, 2013, 09:07:38 AM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i39.tinypic.com%2F9syn0z.jpg) 
Supergroup day was two days ago.  On Saturday, we wear yellow.

I remember that SG. That was the first time outside a costume contest I'd ever seen a supergroup running in uniform. I remember thinking how impressive a sight that was, it really had a strong "unified force" feel. Heck I even joined it for a while, under a sub-chapter... although real life always kept me too distracted to join in on group activities very often. Sadface for that part now.

But happyface for cleaning up the mean streets of Brickstown with the baddest cat around ;D


but she's on a laptop, and it's mouse-heavy

You can use mouses on laptopses. I've been using mine that way for years. In fact I'd have gotten rid of my laptop long ago if I couldn't attach a keyboard and mouse, I hate the cramped way laptops are laid out. You probably have to make sure they're USB though, not too many laptops have the round pin connector ports anymore, I don't think.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on May 21, 2013, 03:35:12 PM
Well, it's not that she can't hook one to her laptop; it's that she doesn't have the space, really.  We used to play City of Heroes in my room (I'm desktop; she's laptop), which meant she was usually sprawled out on my waterbed playing with her computer on a portable desk thingy.  Thus, no room for a mouse.  :(

Either she'd have to go in the dining room and play in there at the table, or she plays alone at a coffee shop, or there's no Marvel for her, basically.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on May 21, 2013, 07:41:49 PM
Well, it's not that she can't hook one to her laptop; it's that she doesn't have the space, really.  We used to play City of Heroes in my room (I'm desktop; she's laptop), which meant she was usually sprawled out on my waterbed playing with her computer on a portable desk thingy.  Thus, no room for a mouse.  :(

Either she'd have to go in the dining room and play in there at the table, or she plays alone at a coffee shop, or there's no Marvel for her, basically.

Ahhh. Yeah I didn't figure you'd have missed that she could use one. What can I say? I was still very sleepy-headed when I said that, hehe ;D

Still though, sucky space issues are sucky. Maybe it's time to start thinking outside the box. Is there something nearby she can rest the laptop on while using the desk thingy for the mouse? You might not use that setup all the time, but it could be better than not having a mouse as an option at all. *shrugs*
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Pinny on May 21, 2013, 08:08:03 PM
It's been a challenge to get myself involved in another MMO, honestly.  I'm lucky that I pretty much had to start back up with school when they shut the game down, otherwise I'm not sure what I would have done :p
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on May 21, 2013, 08:36:24 PM
at this point u still think about the cox game from time to time. Like I wonder what i24 would have been like live and i25, and seeing i26-29 and stories they held.

I don't think it will be last time I see ir hear about cox being up and running in some way or form. It was ahead of its time a good game and imo IMO! was the greatest most relatively unknown game on the market that its sad to see more didn't know about it and had opportunity to try it.

On one hand I lost plenty in my lifetime from friends due to death or jail, money from making now obvious dumb investments, and even part of my "sanity" in the past due to chemical imbalance. I survived and survived this event even as tragic as it is, is pale compared to the other crazy stuff I made it through. But like the other events besides death, I think something can be and is being done. I still play other games, like always, just with one less on the availability list.

 Death is one thing in the entire world f luck chance chaos spontaneous events that is all but certain eventually. It feels the clock was punched a bit too early for Cox. But I must keep living and keep moving and continue to do my part to see if it can be revived and live on in spirit or back from the grave.

That is how I, I as in me and not saying anyone should better would supposed to or everyone *insert action* in any manner and talking strictly of how I'm dealing with it at this point.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on May 22, 2013, 02:22:06 AM
Ahhh. Yeah I didn't figure you'd have missed that she could use one. What can I say? I was still very sleepy-headed when I said that, hehe ;D

Still though, sucky space issues are sucky. Maybe it's time to start thinking outside the box. Is there something nearby she can rest the laptop on while using the desk thingy for the mouse? You might not use that setup all the time, but it could be better than not having a mouse as an option at all. *shrugs*

I told her we could "go ghetto" on it.  Use the green laptop desk thing I've got that she's been using, and set my work briefcase next to her on the bed for the mouse.  :)

Now we just have to get around the HUMONGOZOID patch downloads for the game. . . .
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on May 22, 2013, 04:31:13 AM
I told her we could "go ghetto" on it.  Use the green laptop desk thing I've got that she's been using, and set my work briefcase next to her on the bed for the mouse.  :)

Now we just have to get around the HUMONGOZOID patch downloads for the game. . . .

Yes! Now that's a problem-solving attitude! :D  Briefcases make great tables. Also effective is a good solid hardcover book. Like back when I actually had an RPG group, our D&D handbooks regularly got used as impromptu food trays. (Just don't lend yours to the messy guy. If he asks, hand him the DM's copy "accidentally". ;) )
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Talon Blue on May 22, 2013, 03:15:46 PM
Heven't felt the need, yes need, to play CoH since the announcement of it closure. I found the means to fill the void that it left, but now with my regular long time interest of Magic: the Gathering fading, losing my short term interest in LoL, and RL friends becoming less availible as I continue to get older... I have not missed CoH more than in the last week or so. I understood that the efforts to get CoH back would take time, I'm hoping some progress (not necessarily success) is reached sometime this summer.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on May 22, 2013, 04:39:51 PM
I have not missed CoH more than in the last week or so.

And I realized last night when I thought about what I was going to do on the way home from work today that I'm still planning around the need to get home and eat dinner before the Wednesday evening Hamidon raid on Guardian...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: OzonePrime on May 22, 2013, 07:26:51 PM
And I realized last night when I thought about what I was going to do on the way home from work today that I'm still planning around the need to get home and eat dinner before the Wednesday evening Hamidon raid on Guardian...

Alright! Guardian alum!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: DJMoose on May 23, 2013, 06:40:45 AM

I'm Still Standing
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.ladymoiraine.com%2Fforum%2Fgallery%2F36%2F2147-200513202835.jpeg)
Taken 5/20/13, courtesy of ICON.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on May 23, 2013, 07:11:34 AM
I'm Still Standing
[image was here]
Taken 5/20/13, courtesy of ICON.
Funnily enough, my most advanced character in CoX is a Warshade named Agent Standin. He was initially supposed to the the fill-in member for the team on Agent night, if one of the others couldn't make it. Also, he was the back-up Tank. His full name is Stil Standin. He's the Stand-in Agent who is Stil Standin.  ;)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fstandin.bmp)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 24, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
I'm Still Standing
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.ladymoiraine.com%2Fforum%2Fgallery%2F36%2F2147-200513202835.jpeg)
Taken 5/20/13, courtesy of ICON.

How is Icon letting you get into Atlas? My version sure doesn't.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: eabrace on May 24, 2013, 04:04:51 PM
How is Icon letting you get into Atlas? My version sure doesn't.
The most recent version of Icon will allow you access to different zones (vary depending on the origin you choose) at the end of character creation.  You probably just need to grab the new download.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 24, 2013, 04:46:01 PM
The most recent version of Icon will allow you access to different zones (vary depending on the origin you choose) at the end of character creation.  You probably just need to grab the new download.


OOOHHHHHH MYYYYYYYYYYY must check out!!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TheMindfulFool on May 24, 2013, 07:10:29 PM
I've been going through MMOs, trying to find a good fit. TSW is okay but it's really not holding my interest too much. It's a decent time filler, but at the end of the day, it's no CoH.

Actually, a few of my friends from CoH are going to start running a table top using some site someone found called Roll20. It's a webservice made for table top. We're going to play a few of our old characters using a system called BASH or Mutants and Masterminds. So, hopefully that'll happen soon. We'll certainly enjoy getting back on Etoile!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on May 25, 2013, 12:33:15 AM
Imagination is a wonderful thing.   I don't think I actually played with very many of the people I have seen posting here, but I do recall seeing some of them.

I can and do imagine entire adventures with people I never actually adventured with....and it brings a smile to my face :)

Like you, I have met a number of terrific former CoH players here on Titan.   When we get our City back, even if none of my former SGmates return (and I feel certain many would) there are people here I definitely plan to team up with just based on how they are on Titan Network forums.  As my former SG Leader often reminded us, "You guys ROCK!!!!!!!!!!"  Thanks, Titans!  Stay SUPER!!!!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 25, 2013, 01:22:21 AM
Ok, now I can get into AP or Nerva..... joyousness.

How are you guys flying, though? I am completely earthbound.... although I am enjoying even that. Its a little lonely with no music or NPCs, but I am not complaining.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tanklet on May 25, 2013, 02:22:44 AM
Press 1 for flight
press 2 for hold torch
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 25, 2013, 02:46:19 AM
Press 1 for flight
press 2 for hold torch

Thank you so much. Flew all over Nerva, the zone music almost made me cry.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: OzonePrime on May 25, 2013, 12:09:08 PM
Press 1 for flight
press 2 for hold torch
Thank you! This is wonderful! Was about to ask how, also.
Thanks again! Off to fly!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on May 25, 2013, 04:08:21 PM
Thank you! This is wonderful! Was about to ask how, also.
Thanks again! Off to fly!
I'm not brave enough yet.  I'm afraid doing this will make me really sad and it took me long enough to get over losing City of Heroes the first time; however, I am very happy that other Titans are able to enjoy this!  Yay and thanks!  (Here's hoping in time I feel brave enough to fly again online.)   :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 25, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
I'm not brave enough yet.  I'm afraid doing this will make me really sad and it took me long enough to get over losing City of Heroes the first time; however, I am very happy that other Titans are able to enjoy this!  Yay and thanks!  (Here's hoping in time I feel brave enough to fly again online.)   :(

Do it. Its very soothing.

Plus you get to take more screenies of your characters.

If we could go to more than one zone, I would spend a lot of time just flying all over the place.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Cinnder on May 25, 2013, 05:26:43 PM
I'm not brave enough yet.  I'm afraid doing this will make me really sad and it took me long enough to get over losing City of Heroes the first time; however, I am very happy that other Titans are able to enjoy this!  Yay and thanks!  (Here's hoping in time I feel brave enough to fly again online.)   :(

I have been thinking the same thing, but maybe I should listen to the other folks here and give it a try.

Where do I find this again?  It's a standalone download and not just something in my old CoH folder, right?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 25, 2013, 06:08:14 PM
http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7288.0.html

Open your C drive, "program files"  then City of Heroes and there should be a blue Icon symbol. I usually use the desktop icon though.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Sugoi on May 25, 2013, 06:08:42 PM
Yep, like they said... answered just a tad too late.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Cinnder on May 25, 2013, 06:56:56 PM
Thanks folks!

That was...interesting.  It didn't make me sad as I had feared, but it didn't really do anything terribly positive for me either.  It was like a weird dream when you are in a place but it's not really that place.

The one thing that came home quite clearly from walking around Atlas was how much hope I still have that CoH will return someday.  I know the odds are very much against it, but nothing can quite extinguish that little /e holdtorch inside me.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: OzonePrime on May 25, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
I think it's wonderful! Recreating each alt. Then running, jumping, and flying all over their respective areas.
You are rather like the Omega Man, blowing trash included, but it is nice.  :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 25, 2013, 07:54:03 PM
Omega Man, lol.

I never realized how much I counted on the presence of other people. Even if you were actually alone in a zone, the chat channels were almost always humming, so you knew other people were around even if not seeing them at the moment.

Without even NPCs, it IS pretty eerie. But its still worth doing, IMO. Even if just so you can fly for a while.

I keep looking around thinking, "Is it safe to land here and take a few pix, I'm a level 1" but then it hits me again: there is no one here. Good or bad.... nobody.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on May 26, 2013, 12:24:19 AM
I'm not brave enough yet.  I'm afraid doing this will make me really sad and it took me long enough to get over losing City of Heroes the first time; however, I am very happy that other Titans are able to enjoy this!  Yay and thanks!  (Here's hoping in time I feel brave enough to fly again online.)   :(

I wound up feeling like Henry Bemis from the Twilight Zone episode "Time Enough at Last"... being able to return to a place I'd loved, but finding it just a shell of what it had been without the occupants that brought it to life.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PhiloticKnight on May 26, 2013, 01:40:27 AM
I checked out from Paragon City about a year or so before it closed down. Cimmerora didn't appeal to me, and none of the Roman stuff. Going Rogue sealed the deal for me, it's like they kept adding more and more new characters, without tending the characters that already exist.

Something else that disappointed me was so many story threads always left unresolved. It got to the point where it was irritating. I wanted to know more about the Shadow Shard, I wanted to know more about The Coming Storm. I wanted to know so much more about the stories that ALREADY existed, and they just kept starting new ones instead of resolving the old ones.

With Ouroboros existing and allowing us to explain away leaving old content in the game, I saw no excuse for this. So, frustrated, I left. Then the big "no talk of other video games" forum purge took me out of the only part of the game that I thought was worth paying for - the forums. Then, I didn't leave Paragon City - Paragon City left me.

So, I started my own place. And so far, it's done pretty well.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on May 26, 2013, 01:49:37 AM
I checked out from Paragon City about a year or so before it closed down. Cimmerora didn't appeal to me, and none of the Roman stuff. Going Rogue sealed the deal for me, it's like they kept adding more and more new characters, without tending the characters that already exist.

Something else that disappointed me was so many story threads always left unresolved. It got to the point where it was irritating. I wanted to know more about the Shadow Shard, I wanted to know more about The Coming Storm. I wanted to know so much more about the stories that ALREADY existed, and they just kept starting new ones instead of resolving the old ones.

With Ouroboros existing and allowing us to explain away leaving old content in the game, I saw no excuse for this. So, frustrated, I left. Then the big "no talk of other video games" forum purge took me out of the only part of the game that I thought was worth paying for - the forums. Then, I didn't leave Paragon City - Paragon City left me.

So, I started my own place. And so far, it's done pretty well.

I feel ya. I left for different reasons mostly with all the IO and grind stuff and incarnate. It was like they just threw out what made COX different from the rest of the grind fantasy games out of the window in the end game. And the ever increasing gambling for everything. Just wasnt fun for me anymore. I might as went to Vegas and played WoW between dice rolls because that is how COX started to feel to me. But nonetheless it was an over all good game and I wish to see it back though, even if it was like the way it was in the end and I never return to it personally, at least the ones that do like it can enjoy it. 
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on May 26, 2013, 04:42:11 AM
Do it. Its very soothing.

Plus you get to take more screenies of your characters.

If we could go to more than one zone, I would spend a lot of time just flying all over the place.
Okay!  You talked me into it, Illusionss.  I'll give this a try after I get home from church tomorrow.  (Feeling extra brave now and confident even!  *cues hero theme music before going to bed.*)   Have a super evening, Titan Network!  Cya sometime tomorrow, maybe as early as tomorrow evening, since I'll be "learning to fly" all over again.  (Guess what song by Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers I'll be posting over at the Titan "What Song Are You Listening To Now?" thread.)   ;)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on May 26, 2013, 08:29:05 PM
I have now flown in Atlas Park!   :)   I recreated one of my blasters and was very happy that I could Load costumes from my saved costumes files.   :) (Even bigger smile if possible.)  I also did a bit of /em holdtorch with the 2 key.  If felt odd seeing Ms. Liberty's dais empty, nor being able to access City Hall, Fort Trident, the Train Station, etc., as well as seeing Wentworth's empty.  Odd also to fly just above AP warehouses and NOT get zapped for nuisance damage by the frisky Clockwork, and odd for the parks to be devoid of Hellions and hapless citizens, but it was so good to see the City again and be able to regular run (no Sprint or other power activation options yet that I could see), jump, swim in the lake, and FLY!!!!!  Wooot!!!!

Next, I'll have to make a Vigilante from the Going Rogue origin, skip the tutorial and (I believe) pop into Pocket D (which will feel very weird if empty; however, I'm told from Pocket D, one can access the Chalet in Wonderland and go skiing!!!!  I'm also told one cannot as yet get from Pocket D to Imperial City/Praetoria but Hats Off to Codewalker and/or other Titans involved in this minor miracle!!!!  THANK YOU for giving me back my avatars and their original costumes and for letting them FLY, run, jump and swim (without power activation just defaults) to see at least some of our beloved City!   8)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyVamp on May 27, 2013, 02:04:30 AM
I never realized how much I counted on the presence of other people.

Coh may have started as a simple game but it grew into something beyond what the original designers foresaw.  It grew into something much bigger.  An online version of a neighborhood.  Kindred to Facebook and other online communities yet different.  Better imo that any web browser based online community.  It's no wonder we all feel that loss you just described, Illusionss.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Aura Controller on May 27, 2013, 11:18:11 AM
(https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad238/Aura_Controller/SoAlone.jpeg)

This is all great and all, but I miss you all.
And I've lost all contact with all the best friends that I made in city.
I have there emails addresses but haven't got any responses from them in... a long time now.

I feel so alone...

Guess that's why I started uploading videos to YouTube so I might get a following to interact with. Is that sad? >.>
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on May 27, 2013, 01:24:42 PM

This is all great and all, but I miss you all.
And I've lost all contact with all the best friends that I made in city.
I have there emails addresses but haven't got any responses from them in... a long time now.

I feel so alone...

Guess that's why I started uploading videos to YouTube so I might get a following to interact with. Is that sad? >.>
Dear Aura Controller,
No, it is NOT sad (in the sense that I "hear" you saying "sad"); however it IS sad in the sense of human loss--NCSoft created a virtual human tragedy for all of us; one can could easily been averted; indeed I think there was little to no purpose in literally destroying our world, other than their vaguely stated "realignment" of corporate focus.  (Man, I hope in time NCSoft gets a clue about just what they wrought and the karmic price for doing this!  I sure would be grateful to have them make amends.)  I recommend you try a second round of sending out emails to those old contact address just in case.  I recently heard back from one I sent months ago, telling me, oops! Sorry for the delay in replying; somehow your message wound up in my spam folder.  So sometimes glitches happen.  I am also fortunate in having 2 of 3 formerly active SG's maintaining their guildportal websites and people still log in to check these and visit and catch up with one another.

Meanwhile, until you re-connect with your friends, you have all of us here on Titan Network forums.  Yes, I know it's not the same, and I am sorry for that, but there truly are some very groovy and excellent people here!  Check out the various forums.  I am still finding comfort going thru fan threads I haven't read, and am presently enjoying some great memories and screen pictures and good humor!  /em holdtorch  If we persevere, I feel certain in time we'll have our City back.

PS.  I like your signature lines (assuming I've remembered the terminology correctly); that is this: 
http://www.youtube.com/user/AccidentalPsychopath

Look I'm on YouTube!
Is it OK to advertise that down here? O.o
Also does anyone ever read these?

So yes! I for one read those (as do others.)  Looks fine to me and while I am not into Tomb Raider, I did however very much like your Matrix Room video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6IjkpLv2eE
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on May 27, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
I have now flown in Atlas Park!   :)   I recreated one of my blasters and was very happy that I could Load costumes from my saved costumes files.   :) (Even bigger smile if possible.)  I also did a bit of /em holdtorch with the 2 key.  If felt odd seeing Ms. Liberty's dais empty, nor being able to access City Hall, Fort Trident, the Train Station, etc., as well as seeing Wentworth's empty.  Odd also to fly just above AP warehouses and NOT get zapped for nuisance damage by the frisky Clockwork, and odd for the parks to be devoid of Hellions and hapless citizens, but it was so good to see the City again and be able to regular run (no Sprint or other power activation options yet that I could see), jump, swim in the lake, and FLY!!!!!  Wooot!!!!

Good job, you tried it out and see, it was fun.  8)

With that said.... although this is in truth an experience with some melancholy undertones, simply being able to log in and fly around is BETTER than every other game I have tried since closure. Alone. No friends. No NPCs. Is this a testament to the greatness of our game? Or is it an indictment of how really bad everything else is?

Its both.

Access to more zones would be great - I really miss Mercy and Croatoa. You know, I didn't mind the visual revamps of Atlas and Mercy, but they changed the zone music too - and I think that should not have been done. These beginner zones in particular should have kept their music.

Now back to wondering whether Atlas has a Pocket D manhole cover.... because BadgeHunter is gone, and I just cant remember how else to get into Pocket D. I don't think Nerva has a portal to it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tahliah on May 28, 2013, 01:04:10 AM
Tahliah, this is just for you :)
(https://i.imgur.com/QMUKa.jpg)

OMG, I love this hideous little guy! Remember how he'd get stuck in the snow banks? Sigh.

Sorry I missed this back in December, but I'm soooo glad I saw it now.  Guess I'm just a "typical mortal, always forgetting about time." :P
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Golden Girl on May 28, 2013, 01:13:06 AM
Now back to wondering whether Atlas has a Pocket D manhole cover.... because BadgeHunter is gone, and I just cant remember how else to get into Pocket D. I don't think Nerva has a portal to it.

Kings Row, Faultline, Founders' Falls and Talos Island were the blue side Pocket D entrances.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Cinnder on May 28, 2013, 06:33:55 AM
With that said.... although this is in truth an experience with some melancholy undertones, simply being able to log in and fly around is BETTER than every other game I have tried since closure. Alone. No friends. No NPCs.

HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahaha -- so true!...ha...ha...

Wait...

*sniffle*...*gulp*.........WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!  :'(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: MWRuger on June 30, 2013, 09:31:29 AM
Well, It's been five months since I posted here on this thread.

Since then my mom died. I was caregiver for over a decade.  I not only loved her, I even liked her which is much more rare.

Broke up with my girlfriend because she was verbally abusive.

I had to stop working with Missing Media. I was just too exhausted and low on energy to do much of anything immediately after. Even now, I can't really bring myself to get back into it.

All through that time, I really thought about how much COH would have helped. I really could have used COH to brighten my day. I've tried several other MMO's and while they were fun, they just don't quite cut it.

Basically, I just feel numb and shell shocked.  So I guess I'm sorta handling it...better? I really just don't care about too much of anything right now. But I still miss City of Heroes. I just want to play again before I die.

Best,

The Devil

(sorry about the necrothread)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: TonyV on June 30, 2013, 04:30:58 PM
But I still miss City of Heroes. I just want to play again before I die.

Just don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon, and we'll diligently keep working to make that happen, okay?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Angel Phoenix77 on July 01, 2013, 12:10:34 AM
Just don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon, and we'll diligently keep working to make that happen, okay?
pinky swear? :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on July 01, 2013, 04:19:02 AM
Awww =)  Been years since I heard or read "Pinky swear."  :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Energycrush on July 02, 2013, 04:46:26 AM
Its gone?....

CoH is really gone?

I haven't played in almost two years....I was just thinking about what MMO I felt like playing and CoH was the first thing that came to mind.  So I go to the site to redownload the launcher and I find out that....i'm 6 months too late.

I just...don't know what even....

I remember when I first started playing, it was a few months after launch and decided to give CoH a whirl after playing a couple months of WoW....

I decided to make Virtue server my home, I never left it, and my first toon was an energy/energy blaster named Energycrush, he started out with a pretty gaudy red and yellow outfit, changed the red to black later since it looked way cooler.  I remember when they first came out with the sonic powerset, someone made a funny Star Trek TNG joke about Wesley Crusher..."But MOOOOOM!!!!*screech attack*"  Oh god I laughed my ass off.

The first SG I joined was the Justice Force, an RP group and god damn I had a ton of fun with them.  But EC eventually hit 50 and after awhile I got bored and moved on to other games for awhile, mostly WoW, and left CoH alone for awhile.  I remember during that hiatus I was asked to be one of the closed beta testers for City of Villains and my interests was sparked all over again, once the beta was over and it officially launched I got back into it, making a SS/Invul brute named Big Angelo, a punk kid who was experimented on and got super powers out of it.  Played him with a thick Brooklyn accent while he wore jeans, sneakers, a t-shirt with an anarchy symbol, a black trench coat and sunglasses, and more fun was had for awhile, I played off and on for a couple years and eventually stopped again.

I got back into it again after making a new blaster, AR/devices, named Urban Warfighter, a former marine who was kidnapped by Crey Industries, had his emotions and memories wiped, and trained to be a top level assassin.  He was the prototype for a program to make high level assassins to be sold on the black market, but he went AWOL when infiltrating a targets apartment and accidentally killing the targets child which broke his programming and his conscience resurfaced.  With him I later joined the S.C.O.R.P.I.O SG, which was basically a SHIELD based spy SG, and I had fun with them for a year or two until once again I lost interest and stopped playing for awhile.

I did get back into the game for the Going Rogue expansion, made a resistance fighter street justice/willpower scrapper hero on Praetoria, but after a few months I again got tired of it and stopped, sad thing is I never got her to 50, stopped around the upper 30's.

And now....I can never play any of them again....god dammit this is like finding out a dear old friend dieing after a falling out, and never getting the chance to apologize or make up with them.

God damn I need a hug right now.....
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: MWRuger on July 02, 2013, 06:01:47 AM
I am so sorry! You didn't even have a chance to say goodbye or export your toons.  :-[
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Super Firebug on July 02, 2013, 06:17:02 AM
Hello, Energycrush and TheDevilYouKnow.

Yes, CoH is gone - for now. But, to quote Spock, "There are always possibilities."

1. Right now, Google is considering a promotional packet sent to them to try to get them to make NCSoft an offer to buy the CoH IP. (At least, I think they're still considering it; I haven't found any posts regarding anyone's having heard back from them.)
2. There are no fewer than THREE projects in the works to write a spiritual successor to CoH; when they're done by former players, you know the result will certainly be CoH-flavored, at the least.
3. It's possible that there may be an under-the-radar effort (or there may not - wink nudge) to (as I understand it) write a private-server program to make it possible to run CoH as a solo game, or as an invite-to-server game.
4. It's also possible that NCSoft may be working with Cryptic on CoH2, and therefore may have had to cancel CoH, due to contract conflicts, in order to make CoH2 possible. Your guess is as good as mine as to the likelihood (no offense intended, Joshex), but it's a comfortingly-lovely idea. The thread is here (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,8423.0.html), starting with Reply #15. However, given the players' reaction to the sunset announcement, it seems to me that NCSoft might have realized that saying something about CoH2's existence would have smoothed things out some.
5. Our local hero(es), Codewalker (and company? I don't know who else is working with him) came up with Icon. It started as a way to access the costume creator offline; as of version 1.7, you can create a toon, and run/fly around in the game-zone maps. (There are links in my Reply #1118 in the Multimedia/Titan Icon thread, here (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php?topic=7288.1100).) You don't have powers or targets, but it's a start. :)
6. If you decide to play Champions Online, Star Trek Online or Neverwinter: the CoX chat channel, which you can add to your channel list, is for CoH/CoV refugees. So you'll have a bit of sympathetic company.

So hang in there, folks. The CoH/Titan community has a few cards left to play.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Super Firebug on July 02, 2013, 06:48:36 AM
I had to stop working with Missing Media. I was just too exhausted and low on energy to do much of anything immediately after. Even now, I can't really bring myself to get back into it.

If, by this, you meant Missing Worlds Media, you should check under the Phoenix Project header on these forums' front page. MWM is working on one of the CoH-successor projects.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eldershinjo on July 02, 2013, 07:26:43 PM
7 months?
You know, some days it feels like just yesterday I was fighting through the minions of Mot in the revamped Astoria.
Other days, it feels like an entirely different lifetime.

Honestly, how I handle the loss is dependent on the day. Sometimes I can look back on CoH and everything we as players did with fondness. Other days I just bury it all in work or other games or whatever else and not think too hard on the loss...
And then there are days that I just want 10 minutes in a locked room with whatever NCsoft exec(s) that were responsible for making the decision to close Paragon Studios and our game!  >:(

... But you know, I have learned two important things in all the time I have spent circling around the sun on this little rock.

First, is that the future really is what we make of it. Yeah, it can be hard to face sometimes, but we can either accept a fate that others think they can impose upon us, or fight for what we believe in. I have fought quite a bit in my life so far, for myself and, more importantly, those that I love and the things that I care about. I've made it this far... I'm not about to give my enemies (whoever they might be) a reason to celebrate!

And second... The world has this amazing ability to not only get you down, but to just repeatedly kick you while you're down there. But no matter how hard it does, just manage to laugh through it all and tell them 'You kick like a wuss...'  ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tahliah on July 10, 2013, 12:30:22 AM
Just don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon, and we'll diligently keep working to make that happen, okay?

This reassurance made my day, Tony.  Thank you for everything you do. 
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kheprera on July 12, 2013, 02:55:11 AM
Been a while, I know. I've been on Twittee, but much of my time is consumed.

My waterheater went out. Last Friday my 70 year old mom and I moved over 1800 pounds of crap from my garage to the dump to make room for the repairmen to reach the waterheater. Over a month now, still not fixed.

Sequestration has hurt me. If not for that financial hit, I could afford to fix the damn thing. Instead our savings are getting drained. In addition, my workload has increased by a factor of three, but my paycheck is not just frozen in raises, but with loss of work days... we're hurting.

I wish I still had COH to help with frustration and stress. RL crafting is just... not the same (latchhook and cross stitch do not make you more powerful).

I'd love a Speed LAM, or even a Dr. Q destined to fail.

But I posted new commissions received in Multimedia, and my SG mates still have my back. Even met one who came from Australia for a visit!

Things gotta get better, right?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Noyjitat on July 12, 2013, 05:28:18 AM
Things gotta get better, right?

This is what I keep telling myself and trying to keep believing in. I am sorry to hear about all the other troubles you are dealing with.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Von Krieger on July 16, 2013, 08:44:48 PM
I never really realized just how ingrained CoH was into my life.

I was reading through a thread here on the board the other day, and I absently wondered how my auctions were doing, and had a momentary flash of panic that I'd forgotten to check them recently before I was able to remind myself that the game's been closed for seven months now. :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on July 17, 2013, 09:35:58 AM
Yeah, even now I keep having moments where I'm looking at a screenshot and going "Hey, I remember that map. I should log into the game and... dammit."

I know it was "just a game", but there's still a gaping hole in my life where a creative and social outlet (as well as frustration release valve) used to be. I still haven't found anything that completely replaces it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: General Idiot on July 17, 2013, 10:34:36 AM
Quote
I know it was "just a game", but there's still a gaping hole in my life where a creative and social outlet (as well as frustration release valve) used to be. I still haven't found anything that completely replaces it.

Pretty much exactly my feelings as well. Sure, it's just a game. But it's also a game I spent almost every moment of my free time playing, for five and a half years. No one willingly does anything that much for that length of time without developing some serious emotional attachment, no matter how important it is or isn't in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Golden Girl on July 17, 2013, 07:00:18 PM
If CoH was "Just a game", this site would have closed at the end of November last year - and HaV wouldn't exist at all.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: icecigal on July 17, 2013, 07:54:58 PM
No for me CoH was not just a game. I lived vicariously through the characters I created. I was a resident of Paragon City. I soared through the skies, sped through the streets, and leapt through the neighborhoods of the city that was as much as a home to me as the real city I live in. I've attended weddings, went to parties, and hung out at countless Cape Radio shows.

So, How am I handling the loss? Frankly not well. I mourn the loss of my alter ego's and many of the friends I made during my time in Paragon City. I yearn to log and go back home. Maybe someday I will be able to do so.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on July 18, 2013, 05:07:18 AM
One would think the songs I was listening to the last night of the game's existence would bring up special memories.  They don't--nothing out of the ordinary.

But listening to "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" yesterday hit me hard, for some reason.  I started thinking of COH mid-song, and it hit me.  :(

I still miss City of Heroes.  I still discuss it with my friends who played, and I've even sparked conversation about it with a new friend on Marvel Heroes who played on a different server.  The game was certainly special to me and my friends.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Razy on July 18, 2013, 05:26:25 AM
 Not well. I miss the community, my friends. I been playing dcuo, and even tho i been a dc comics fan for years, it is not the same.
 The other day i was in my car listening to the radio, when the song "is always a good time" was playing; i remembered this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U6gs9d0Kkk
Then i hit me how much i miss the game (my home away from home), my friends, and how social friendly coh was.
 No other game has that, and is what i miss the most.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on July 22, 2013, 09:16:36 AM
I put "just a game" in quotes for a reason. It was not just a game to me, but when I try to explain why I miss it so much, that's the usual response.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: MWRuger on July 24, 2013, 06:20:59 AM
I Want to thank you Super Firebug for your post. I've been around but posting elsewhere. I did mean Missing World's Media. I worked with them for about 4 months. It was fun but some RL badness happened I couldn't reup.

TonyV thank you for the cup of hope. I'll wait. What choice do I have?

Codewalker - as always, Thanks for Icon. It's the Methadone to my Heroin addiction.

I'll hang in there as long as there is still hope.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Super Firebug on July 24, 2013, 07:05:56 AM
... But you know, I have learned two important things in all the time I have spent circling around the sun on this little rock.

First, is that the future really is what we make of it. Yeah, it can be hard to face sometimes, but we can either accept a fate that others think they can impose upon us, or fight for what we believe in. I have fought quite a bit in my life so far, for myself and, more importantly, those that I love and the things that I care about. I've made it this far... I'm not about to give my enemies (whoever they might be) a reason to celebrate!

And second... The world has this amazing ability to not only get you down, but to just repeatedly kick you while you're down there. But no matter how hard it does, just manage to laugh through it all and tell them 'You kick like a wuss...'  ;D

Seconded (albeit belatedly). To quote Captain Dylan Hunt, from "Andromeda": "Pessimism is not a survival trait."
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Super Firebug on July 24, 2013, 07:22:37 AM
I Want to thank you Super Firebug for your post. I've been around but posting elsewhere. I did mean Missing World's Media. I worked with them for about 4 months. It was fun but some RL badness happened I couldn't reup.

TonyV thank you for the cup of hope. I'll wait. What choice do I have?

Codewalker - as always, Thanks for Icon. It's the Methadone to my Heroin addiction.

I'll hang in there as long as there is still hope.

You're very welcome, TDYK. I wonder if Energycrush is still around; his post still shows only one message posted from him. I hope he knows that we're not sunk yet.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: MWRuger on July 24, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
I don't think he ever saw our replies based on his active times. But he had to give an email address and maybe when things change Titan can get in touch with him.

It's weird to me that he didn't know. But when I think about it, not everyone is connected to the net as much as some of us are.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on July 25, 2013, 01:19:46 AM
Today, I got nostalgic, and fired up some music from Mercy Island and Atlas park.  I'm not sure whether or not I regret the decision.  What I am sure of, is that I genuinely broke down and cried.  There's not a lot of games, or game music, that can make me that sentimental.  The last game to ever do it to me was Mother 3.

It doesn't help that I've been on a rather huge nostalgia-trip in general lately, playing a lot of really old, but really good games.  Super Mario Bros., Mega Man 2, System Shock 2, Black & White, Dungeon Keeper 2, Freedom Force, Morrowind... I love 'em all and I love periodically revisiting them, just to remind myself of where I've come from when it comes to video games.

But... there's a part of my video gaming history, a very important part, though I didn't realize it at the time, that I can't revisit now, thanks to NCsoft.  That being City of Heroes.

Also, since the last time I posted in this thread... Dungeon Fighter Online was shut down on this side of the Pacific.  So now I've lost my Berserker too, the weaponized-blood madman that was there for me when CoH shut down.  If that wasn't bad enough, a couple servers I played on for other games closed up too.

I'm starting to wonder if I'm cursed.

... I want my office in Cap Au Diable back.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Captain Electric on July 25, 2013, 03:14:36 AM
Keep hope, Kaiser Tarantula. You're among friends and friendly strangers who know exactly what you're going through when you type these things. But there's also another benefit of being in this particular community that other people don't have.

Heroes never quit, villains never stop. Of course it's easy to believe that in the best of times. But even in the worst of times, you have to keep believing this, no matter what. They can lay on us a mighty blow, but they cannot beat us. City of Heroes is down, but I don't believe it's down for the count and you couldn't convince me otherwise. Think about everyone this game brought together over the years. Some of the smartest, most talented people ever to share one hobby. No one tells a group of people like that to sit down and shut up and gets away with it. People like that persevere. The last word will always be ours.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Golden Girl on July 25, 2013, 05:51:48 AM
Also, since the last time I posted in this thread... Dungeon Fighter Online was shut down on this side of the Pacific.  So now I've lost my Berserker too, the weaponized-blood madman that was there for me when CoH shut down.  If that wasn't bad enough, a couple servers I played on for other games closed up too.

I'm starting to wonder if I'm cursed.

There needs to be a new approach to how MMOs are owned and run - they need to be taken out of corporate hands and put into the hands of the people who actually play them.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on July 25, 2013, 05:57:56 AM
There needs to be a new approach to how MMOs are owned and run - they need to be taken out of corporate hands and put into the hands of the people who actually play them.

In time, three times over.

The chance to start a new revolution in the MMO world. A lot is riding on those three games.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ellscry on July 25, 2013, 04:08:45 PM
I just listened to the last song I heard while in City of Heroes. It was after the servers had been shut down, and the only refuge left was the Beta Test server. I had logged into my namesake and was in Atlas park for the last time ever, and all the while Lily Allen’s “F*ck You” was playing over the radio. I still get tears.
I miss all my CoH friends, but none more so then those I made on Infinity. I want them to know I still think of them fondly.

Panthera Dragon/ Memory of Running/ Simoon Gryphon
Death Valley Dragon
Fire Foxx
Mr. & Mrs. Dragon
Darkkeepr (Pretty much all of the Advent Guardians)
R-Tech
Mrek
Onjo
GATE-keeper
Ad Astra
Asgardian Blade
(Pretty much the whole Infinity TF crew, whose names I have unfortunately forgotten)
Taxibot Bella
My Wife’s Character (Sundew)
Ironblade
Turbospeed

The countless dozens who joined me on my Incarnate Trial badge runs.
I would give much to have us all back together for a Master of Lambda. Or anything really.

Not handling this well. Nope.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on July 26, 2013, 06:26:18 AM
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on July 27, 2013, 05:26:14 PM
I dreamed about playing CoH last night. I don't remember whether the game had been brought back up or whether it has simply never gone down, but for whatever reason I hadn't played in a while, and I was really excited to be playing my old characters again.  After leveling up my newer characters, I was just logging into Thunder Glove when I woke up.

I still miss it.  I will always miss it, until and unless it comes back.  The spiritual successors will definitely help, but I'll still miss CoH.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: General Idiot on July 28, 2013, 12:12:22 AM
Here's a weird one. I had a dream last night where I walked in on my mother of all people playing a revived CoH. Which is odd, because she never once played it in real life. Looked a little different, like the same game with different zones and content but it was definitely CoH. If I remember rightly, I promptly demanded to know why she hadn't bothered to tell me the game was back.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Golden Girl on July 28, 2013, 05:23:44 AM
Looked a little different, like the same game with different zones and content but it was definitely CoH.

She was probably playing HaV ;)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: General Idiot on July 28, 2013, 11:12:36 AM
See my earlier comment about it definitely being CoH.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: detour on July 28, 2013, 01:52:03 PM
I wanted to go surfing in Talos today.  calamari for lunch.  hamburgers on the pier.  beers at pocket d.  man, I miss this place.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Todogut on July 28, 2013, 02:47:04 PM
I was driving in my car this morning, put on the youth-culture radio station, and the song in this video was playing: http://youtu.be/0U6gs9d0Kkk

The memories made my eyes water.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Cinnder on July 28, 2013, 11:59:22 PM
Today I would have received my 8-year badge -- well, if Freedom hadn't broken the anniversary badges -- so I'm especially missing the game at the moment.  :(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Brou on July 29, 2013, 12:02:01 AM
I was driving in my car this morning, put on the youth-culture radio station, and the song in this video was playing: http://youtu.be/0U6gs9d0Kkk

The memories made my eyes water.

That was a very nice video. I didn't recognize every single character. What a shame. Such a wealth of characters.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Golden Girl on July 29, 2013, 12:56:58 AM
See my earlier comment about it definitely being CoH.

I think that you missed the point a bit :P
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Fire Star on July 29, 2013, 06:13:49 AM
I am still not handling the loss well.  I have played a lot of games and will continue to roam until CoX comes back or another rises to replace it, but I am still extremely sad.  I know it is "just a game" to some, but for me it was home.  My toons were like my pets or children if you will.  I invested a lot of time in the game, made great friends and I always knew I would have fun when I logged in.  I still feel like I have lost a good friend.  I have been told that I need to get over it and perhaps I do, but it will not be any time soon.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on July 29, 2013, 07:06:15 AM
Latest update?  I still think about the game and talk it over with friends regularly.  One thing that's helped some is reassembling most of the core members of the SG from City on Marvel Heroes.  I'm missing two: a friend of mine and his girlfriend; his computer can't handle Marvel, and she won't go for it without being able to create her own characters.  Otherwise, I've gotten me, my girlfriend, the SG cofounder, and a couple of the more active members (and a couple friends of one of those members) to join up and recreate The Omniscients, from Justice.  :)

One step at a time, right?  We ALL still want City back, of course, but Marvel's the next best thing, for now, for me and mine, it seems.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ellscry on July 30, 2013, 06:36:12 PM
You don't remember me (Agent Standin, Emerald Radiant, Arilou, Dark Dave, and several others) from Infinity?!?  :'(

Not surprising really, since I usually ran around solo.  ;D

Whenever I saw Taxibot Belle on Infinity, I would send her a PM saying "Thank you for your contributions to helping others." Or something along those lines. I really appreciated what the Taxibots did, especially when the Hollows was still new and sparkly. Belle just happened to be the first Taxibot I ever saw.

Ah...memories...  :)

To true that. Belle was one of the greats, and the memories are really fantastic.

And as for not remembering you, I might. Have a screen shot? I'll be the first to admit I remember costumes better than names most of the time.  ;)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on July 31, 2013, 04:13:48 AM
To true that. Belle was one of the greats, and the memories are really fantastic.

And as for not remembering you, I might. Have a screen shot? I'll be the first to admit I remember costumes better than names most of the time.  ;)
Like I said, I usually played solo most of the time.

But, here's Agent Standin, Bio and all.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fstandin.bmp)

Agent Standin was the back-up agent when someone in the group couldn't make it on Agent Night. Also, as a Lobster, he was the back-up Tank for the team. There were times when he was the only one ...wait for it....Stil Standin.  ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Blackshear on July 31, 2013, 11:33:00 AM
I was driving in my car this morning, put on the youth-culture radio station, and the song in this video was playing: http://youtu.be/0U6gs9d0Kkk

The memories made my eyes water.

Neat video, but I had to mute the song.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ellscry on July 31, 2013, 01:38:28 PM
Like I said, I usually played solo most of the time.

Hi-larious.  ;D

I'll have to admit I do not remember Agent Standin, and I think I would had I read that bio. I had an unfortunate habit of soloing most of the time (at least until they came out with the incarnate trials and I lost my mind running them).

The one toon that really tickles my memory is Emerald Radiant. I swear I saw that toon several times in Dark Astoria, or maybe Atlas, and noticed the costume...But then again my memory could be made of mush.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on July 31, 2013, 02:33:07 PM
Hi-larious.  ;D

I'll have to admit I do not remember Agent Standin, and I think I would had I read that bio. I had an unfortunate habit of soloing most of the time (at least until they came out with the incarnate trials and I lost my mind running them).

The one toon that really tickles my memory is Emerald Radiant. I swear I saw that toon several times in Dark Astoria, or maybe Atlas, and noticed the costume...But then again my memory could be made of mush.
I looked through my photos that I have hosted and couldn't find it. It seems that I lost my folder of screen shots that I had on my computer as well.

Anyway, this is an approximation of what his costume looked like. He never made it to the Incarnate Dark Astoria.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2FEmerald_Radiant.jpg)
Emerald Radiant was created as a Radiation/Energy Defender. All his powers were colored Green as well.

I'm sure no one could guess the inspiration for THAT character.  :roll:
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on July 31, 2013, 04:09:22 PM
Emerald Radiant was created as a Radiation/Energy Defender. All his powers were colored Green as well.

I'm sure no one could guess the inspiration for THAT character.  :roll:

Nice :)

That reminds me of a character I made for a costume contest once. The theme was "amalgam", basically you take two different comic book characters and blend them together. I made a Green Lantern / Ghost Rider outfit for him, and a Captain America / Iron Man outfit. (I also made a Doctor Doom / Joker outfit, but that turned out much less impressive, hehe.) I called him Genepool... loved the name, but I couldn't think of a powerset that worked with it so he just sat there collecting dust bunnies. (In his defense though, he farmed the heck out of them. At one point he hit the cap on dust bunny salvage. Whee!)

(https://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz55/KansasCrawford/City%20of%20Heroes/Genepool_zps2b5086c2.jpg)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on July 31, 2013, 09:51:19 PM
Nice :)

That reminds me of a character I made for a costume contest once. The theme was "amalgam", basically you take two different comic book characters and blend them together. I made a Green Lantern / Ghost Rider outfit for him, and a Captain America / Iron Man outfit. (I also made a Doctor Doom / Joker outfit, but that turned out much less impressive, hehe.) I called him Genepool... loved the name, but I couldn't think of a powerset that worked with it so he just sat there collecting dust bunnies. (In his defense though, he farmed the heck out of them. At one point he hit the cap on dust bunny salvage. Whee!)

(https://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz55/KansasCrawford/City%20of%20Heroes/Genepool_zps2b5086c2.jpg)
Those look great.  :)

You should try Captain Green Iron man next.  :P
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on August 03, 2013, 09:09:40 PM
...How am I handling it? Still not very well, sad to say. As more time passes it sinks in further: our home is gone. If it were not for Icon and my at least being able to SEE facsimiles of my characters, I don't know what I would do. Icon is the last little straw I am holding onto.

My oldest character would have been seven years old this May. I hate NCSoft to the bottom of my soul. I know that is not seen as correct, but I do.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on August 04, 2013, 03:38:38 AM
How am I handling it? Now well at all. When the game was shut down, I wasn't even able to be there, because my computer had crashed and would not reinstall the client properly. (I have 256k DSL, so while I could log in and play the game, having to redownload it was night impossible at times) So I missed out on the final Halloween festivities, the final runs, the raising of the torches.

I deleted all my screenshots a month later. too depressed to look at them and remember all the fun I'd had. for the next few months, I sputtered on, basically ignoring all the talk of the game except for occasionally checking the news in hopes that NCSoft had rescinded its edict or at least explained once and for all why they killed my home. they never did, which just left me to fester over the scum of the earth that are business people who will look at a thing that is thriving and say "nope, it's not making ME enough money, kill it and pay me the difference."

The last few months have been pretty rough IRL for me, and more than once, I've thought, "you know what would feel better, "Let's go save the city!" only to remember a moment later on looking for the Launcher icon... oh, that's right, some greedy asshole firebombed The City and then pissed in the ashes and salted the earth behind them. like a kindergarten bully who doesn't want anyone else playing with his toys.

So I started actively looking for more news. Like so many others, I found all the old, dead links, the ones from 2008 that pointed to long dead private racks. the fanciful lies of people claiming to be playing on private servers only made me angrier still. I knew of Phoenix Project. I had actually joined their message board way back in February, but there was little I could contribute to it. I chattered a bit in one or two threads but that fell off as well.

These past few weeks have only grown worse. I've tried the other Hero RPGs out there since I don't do swords and sorcery, after hours of downloading each through borrowed connections, none of them trip my trigger remotely. In fact, I'd say after 3 weeks of playing Champions Online, it makes me all the angrier for that game coming from the same team that originally created our game, but that it falls flat in the areas I enjoy like the stories told and the encompassing world-building or the free form play.

but worse, are the states of the revival projects. SEGS is a badly broken bizzaro world that barely functions in one guy's garage server rack. Icon is a morose ghost town utterly devoid of other people having fun and of much of anything to do which just reminds me of what's been lost. And Phoenix is schismed into two projects now, neither one of which seems to be moving along much beyond concepts, and even if they are, I am not a coder and I have no money to donate, and both already have writers out the ying yang and so no ways for me to be involved.

all my opinion, but that's what counts when i'm the one living inside my head

So no, I'm not handling it well. not well at all. especially not coming up on the one year anniversary of the death warrant being signed.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on August 04, 2013, 07:21:04 AM
Icon is indeed a ghost town but somehow an occasional log in calms me a little. I still have afew more costumes to recreate..... this game was my main source of stress relief and I'm trying to deal with that being gone

So I log into st martial and make it night one more time. Depending on the character I go say hi to my girl Verandi. Then I go perch on a rooftop in The Flop and look at the lights for a while.

It beats nothing. For sure.

Phoenix project is about to Kickstart. While I am not certain I would do that without at least their version of Icon to show off - its their decision..... and maybe one day not too far away we can see the evening lights sparkle somewhere else.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on August 04, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
You know what I truly miss? now having tried the other flavours of MMO out there in a desperate attempt to fill the gap?

How truly versatile the City of Heroes was.
-You could play it as a single person, linear story game, and still never play the same story twice, and get all the way through it each time. (minus incarnate task forces of course)
-You could play it as a real time strategy game. calling out tactics and formations and spotting for your buddy in every task force from DFB to Incarnate and just simple sweep-the-streets runs.
-You could play it as an old school rpg game, seeking out all the drops and all the side quests and all the rare gear you could get before you leveled out of an area.
-You could play it as a old skool MMORPG in the veins of Evercrack and UO, raiding with your guild (supergroup) against your arch enemies in the other faction.
-You could run the tables in the auction house and invention system and play it like monopoly or tycoon and amass insane amounts of in-game currency (often tanking parts of the economy in the process)
-you could be a programing maestro in the AE system, and write your own twisted little stories
-You could play it as a modern first-to-the-top MMO just racing to get the best stats.
-You could even, to an extent, play it as a MOBA in the arena system and the PVP.

Best of all, you weren't locked in. So many other MMOs say, "this is your class, these are your abilities, and this is your stat rate." In City of Heroes you could do or be anything! a tank didn't have to be just a tank, it could be a heavily armored healer, or it could be  a crowd control fixture with all manner of secondary buffs. An archer didn't just have to be a sniper, it could be something akin to an oldschool D&D Monk with healing and combat abilities mixed together. Every class and every powerset counted for something, and you were encouraged to mix and match.

I once questioned the wisdom of making a high profile tank with flight as its secondary because... how are you going to lure and hold when you're ten feet up. Then someone said "just what do you think Superman is?" The kind of thought that went into this game's over-arching mechanics was and is just mind-hurtling, and unparalleled in any other game. Which is why I suppose, I find all the rest unsatisfying-to-irritating.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: General Idiot on August 04, 2013, 10:23:50 PM
I still laugh at being able to make Superman in CoH but not being able to make him in DCUO.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on August 05, 2013, 12:32:15 AM
I still laugh at being able to make Superman in CoH but not being able to make him in DCUO.

Not to get into another round of CO-bashing, but I found a similar case there.  On various freeform superhero-themed roleplay MUXes, I used to play a villain named Aquarius, a weather controller who was directly taken from an old Champions module called The Zodiac Conspiracy (http://paizo.com/products/btpy8n42?Champions-RPG-The-Zodiac-Conspiracy).

I could easily make Aquarius' exact powerset in CoH (where he'd be an Electric/Storm Corruptor), but not in CO.  Aquarius used wind for defense, not offense, and CO's wind-based power framework is entirely offense-based.  Similarly, Aquarius used fog for stealth and ice to make the ground slippery, both features of the Storm Summoning set that have no equivalent in CO.

Of course, Aquarius (and the other members of the Zodiac that I can't make on CO - Cancer needs Stone Armor, Pisces needs Sonic Blast and Sonic Resonance, and Scorpio needs Dark Armor) isn't as iconic as Superman, but the similarity is there.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: onyxprincess on August 05, 2013, 12:58:24 AM
Of course, Aquarius (and the other members of the Zodiac that I can't make on CO - Cancer needs Stone Armor, Pisces needs Sonic Blast and Sonic Resonance, and Scorpio needs Dark Armor) isn't as iconic as Superman, but the similarity is there.

Actually you can! Stone is the primary powerset of THE MOUNTAIN, one of the Premium Archetypes. Also in the Premium Archetypes is THE VOID, whose powers stem from Shadows and Darkness. Or even better, make heroes of your own using the 2 FREEFORM slots granted in the Gold Package- Just $14.99+tax a month or, for a limited time, $29.99+tax for 3 months. Or, if you can, put together $299.99+tax and get the Gold Package for your entire LIFETIME! Yes, you heard me right- for your entire LIFETIME! 500 Zen per month, access to 12 Character Slots, 5 Costume Slots per Character and all the archetypes until you die in your real life!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on August 05, 2013, 02:19:59 AM
Actually you can! Stone is the primary powerset of THE MOUNTAIN, one of the Premium Archetypes. Also in the Premium Archetypes is THE VOID, whose powers stem from Shadows and Darkness. Or even better, make heroes of your own using the 2 FREEFORM slots granted in the Gold Package- Just $14.99+tax a month or, for a limited time, $29.99+tax for 3 months. Or, if you can, put together $299.99+tax and get the Gold Package for your entire LIFETIME! Yes, you heard me right- for your entire LIFETIME! 500 Zen per month, access to 12 Character Slots, 5 Costume Slots per Character and all the archetypes until you die in your real life!
.... I don't know how much of that was sarcasm, but if you're serious, you missed some key words in my post.  I didn't say that CO has no Stone or Darkness powers.  I said it has no Stone Armor or Dark Armor powers.  The only defensive power in CO's Earth set is Defiance, which is shared by all the Brick frameworks and is not specifically stone-related.  Darkness has no defensive powers at all.

I subscribed to CO for several months right after CoH closed. I know all about making freeform characters.  And no matter how much money I were to give them, Stone Armor and Dark Armor don't exist in CO.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on August 05, 2013, 05:18:43 PM
How truly versatile the City of Heroes was.
-You could play it as a single person, linear story game, and still never play the same story twice, and get all the way through it each time. (minus incarnate task forces of course)

And this is the thing that's dragging at me playing SWTOR. You have eight base classes (four Republic, four Imperial), doubled to sixteen advanced classes, and each advanced class can pick skills from three trees... but every character in a given advanced class gets exactly the same base abilities, and there is only one class storyline for each base class, so even if you have a dozen Smugglers in a mix of Scoundrels and Gunslingers with different skill tree selections, every single one of them goes through exactly the same core missions -- and there are so few non-core missions that you pretty much have to do all of them to keep up with the level requirements of the next planet in sequence, so you're doing the same peripheral missions again and again with each of your characters in a faction -- and in some cases, such as the last few missions of the "The Thing Czerka Found" arc on Tatooine, both factions get exactly the same missions (the different classes do, however, get different glowies for the second-stage bonus objective in the last mission, @whee), which lowers the variability even more. And with the world design, there really isn't any way to retrofit some sort of random-mission system to give players the ability to get off the railroad for a little while.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Cinnder on August 05, 2013, 09:32:01 PM
You know what I truly miss? now having tried the other flavours of MMO out there in a desperate attempt to fill the gap?

How truly versatile the City of Heroes was.

*snip*

+ 1 zillion

This is what makes efforts to create a worthy successor so challenging, because there were so many ways to play CoH.  From the way some people describe their experiences, sometimes I'd almost swear they were playing a different game, because they really enjoyed spending most of their time on stuff I avoided.  But that is what was so cool about the game.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Nightwatch on August 06, 2013, 08:35:46 AM
Argh!!!  It brings it all back!  It brings it all back!

My first toon was a illusions/forcefield controller called "Lightsmith".  He came from an Intergalactic Guild of Lightsmiths who are able to craft structures out of light - forcefields, avatars, etc.  This started out as my Green Lantern homage but over time I grew to think my Lightsmiths outgrew and were superior to Green Lanterns.  Over the years I built about 5 Lightsmiths on different servers and took them all to lvl 50.

Now.  The latest issue of the Green Lantern comic (#23) has this text on the cover, "The Lightsmiths called the event, the Dimming!"

O well.  Full circle.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: General Idiot on August 07, 2013, 02:03:08 PM
From the way some people describe their experiences, sometimes I'd almost swear they were playing a different game, because they really enjoyed spending most of their time on stuff I avoided.

Speaking of things some people avoided - CoH remains the only MMO in which I could often log in and play all night without talking to another player or killing a single thing, and still not be bored. Which is to say, logging in and spending all night base editing. :p
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 07, 2013, 04:13:49 PM
CoH remains the only MMO in which I could often log in and play all night without talking to another player or killing a single thing, and still not be bored.

Oh yeah, there were a ton of things you could do and not get bored. I often killed an hour or two at a time just ninja running all over the place. Especially on a character with weapons. (Especially especially Vanguard katanas. Glowy swords ftw!) That running animation... with the flippy-jumps and the whooshy-noises... holding your weapon out behind you and just racing down the street. That was so freaking cool.

Or super jumping around... pretty much anywhere, really. Same with flying. Checking out the scenery or hunting down explore badges. Heck I would just do laps around my SG base over and over again, stopping here and there to admire things I had made. I was no master designer but I was getting better. I certainly enjoyed practicing it. Like I saw someone's pic where they had set the beacon screens into the front pillars of the tp pads, and once I figured out how to do that I just kept coming back to stare at it. Never got old.

And the outfits! I think I spent more nights in the tailor than anywhere else. It was just so amazing, the variety of looks you could make with that costume creator. I spent so much time refining outfits that I actually made it into Hero Dawn's hall of fame for most improved costumes ;D   (My first ones were... well I'd say "abysmal" but it's too nice a word.) Course that was the last cc they held, so the results never got officially posted on their site. But it totally happened! I swear it did! I wouldn't just make up something like that!  >.>  *whistles innocently*

Shoot, this one Halloween, just for giggles, I kicked a leftover pumpkin from an Eochai spawn from the west side of Atlas clear across to Ms Liberty. At first I was just having fun kicking some junk around. I do odd things like that; I'm an odd guy. But then I gave myself a challenge to park it at Libby's feet. I did it too! It was beautiful. (I felt like I should've gotten a badge for it... "Time Well Wasted" would be a fitting name, hehe.) Getting it up the stairs was the hardest part. That and taking my time... if I kicked it too hard it would go flying and despawn, and then I'd have to start over. And I mean, forget that. That nonsense was way too silly to do twice. :P

But yeah, awesome and interesting and cool and fun stuff was all over the place. You didn't have to look very far to find a way to spend a few hours out of combat. It was glorious.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on August 07, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
Speaking of things some people avoided - CoH remains the only MMO in which I could often log in and play all night without talking to another player or killing a single thing, and still not be bored. Which is to say, logging in and spending all night base editing. :p
speaking of base editing...

Here are a few shots of the Bouquet of Roses' base.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshot_090919-09-41-17.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshot_090919-09-41-40.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshot_090919-09-42-00.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshot_090919-09-42-14.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshot_090919-09-42-38.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshot_090919-09-43-33.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshot_090919-09-43-50.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=malzeth.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshot_090919-09-44-11.jpg)

I'm sure you would have been more impressed if you'd actually been in the base.
Too bad I couldn't get decent shots of the teleport room though. It was really nice. With an indoor pool and everything!!!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: damerell on August 08, 2013, 01:49:50 PM
Now is not the time to mention Debt is a Feather's, which looked like a facility for storing the maximum number of salvage racks and teleporters in the minimum space. :-)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: nataliaofvirtues on August 11, 2013, 12:38:09 AM
I am still not handling the loss of COH worth a crap. I have tried everything to fill the emptiness and as of yet nothing. I am hoping that one of the successors will prove fulfilling.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on August 11, 2013, 06:12:33 AM
Yeah.  I mean, don't get me wrong.  I'm not suicidal or anything drastic.  But I seriously miss my heroes and villains more every day.  I've been crankier and sulkier than usual since December 1st.  I've lost the best combination creative outlet / stress relief outlet (and many other things) I've ever found in my life.  It's still my favorite game - not just MMO, not just video game, but game - of all time.

Knowing that maybe in 2014 or 2015 if everything goes exactly according to schedule there may be a game that kinda feels vaguely like CoH and that might run at something resembling full speed on my old laptop doesn't at all comfort me on those nights when it's 4 am, I can't sleep, and I'm thinking "All I really want to do right now is run some iTrials, like I was one year ago today."  I need to play now.

I'm so desperate, I may just go back to Champions Online for a month or two, just to be able to play superheroes again, rather than a cat guy (http://dofuswiki.wikia.com/wiki/Ecaflip) wearing a dog-shaped hat (http://dofuswiki.wikia.com/wiki/Moowolf_Headgear).

I'm just hoping that an I24 emulator (sorry, "compatible community server") is being actively worked on and is nearing completion.

Edit: there, see what I mean about being cranky?  I came back and re-read this, and it sounded like an attack on the Plan Z projects.  It wasn't intended as that.  I'm just feeling very impatient, and very worried that my poor old computer won't be able to handle all the Plan Z goodness when it finally does arrive.  (Buying a new computer, unfortunately, doesn't look to be in the cards for quite a while, unless I get lucky with the lottery)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Golden Girl on August 11, 2013, 06:57:32 PM
I'm just feeling very impatient, and very worried that my poor old computer won't be able to handle all the Plan Z goodness when it finally does arrive.  (Buying a new computer, unfortunately, doesn't look to be in the cards for quite a while, unless I get lucky with the lottery)

HaV is being designed to be playable on the computer of anyone who was playing CoH at the time of its shutdown.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on August 12, 2013, 09:05:41 AM
I want my City back....more than ever

(https://i.imgur.com/9YwY5h7.gif)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on August 12, 2013, 04:02:46 PM
I realized, I was also unfair to the other games I play.  Actually, I have nothing against the cat guy or the dog-shaped hat - I even based a CoH character on him, a MA/SR Scrapper with the full Leaping Power Pool - but the game itself is very solo-unfriendly, leveling is painfully slow, all the critters are extremely overpowered compared to players (the head developer has explicitly said that he doesn't want the players to be too powerful, so "the monsters can play, too"), and each individual quest has multiple steps, each of which would be a full quest in itself in most other games.

Edit to snip out the giant multi-paragraph list of steps for just one quest, and then another giant multi-paragraph list of steps for a different quest.  Too long, Clanky, too long.

So, what I'm sloooowly leading up to here is that I seriously miss the way CoH handled quests/missions.  I miss being able to play for a half-hour and complete multiple missions, rather than having to play for literally days to complete a single quest.  I liked that just about every mission was "go into instance, beat up everything you find there, maybe click on a couple of glowies" (and took no more than ten or fifteen minutes at most) rather than a Bear Ass Hunt or running back and forth between two people on opposite ends of the world a dozen times.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: OzonePrime on August 12, 2013, 06:21:53 PM
rather than a Bear Ass Hunt or running back and forth between two people on opposite ends of the world a dozen times.
So you've played WoW, also! Lol!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on August 12, 2013, 06:42:52 PM
I certainly think CoH could have done with one or two long-form quests (Shining Stars I think was a step in that direction by having a series of thee short arcs strung together by one story and one set of characters, and the cape mission that had you hauling ass all over paragon was another) but yes, I too liked the punchy door-mission style of play where you could pop in and see "mission accomplished" in between five and twenty minutes.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on August 12, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
I certainly think CoH could have done with one or two long-form quests (Shining Stars I think was a step in that direction by having a series of thee short arcs strung together by one story and one set of characters, and the cape mission that had you hauling ass all over paragon was another) but yes, I too liked the punchy door-mission style of play where you could pop in and see "mission accomplished" in between five and twenty minutes.
well I think the shard TFs and three Hero side TFs (posi. Original, Synaspe, Citadel) were forms of the long quest. Then the missions where you had to talk to various people or do the phone check thing, fly across maps for nothing much. Hell, most civilian contacts required flying (or what every travel power) through different maps and rarely the map the contact was on. Luckily they shortened the phone contact. I remember when it was that you had to do 3-8 missions before they even allowed the phone or the main arc for that matter all the while hoping by the time they got to the story arc the character wasn't out leveled it yet. Think they nullified those issues with Ouroboros mostly besides the fact that the character had to then exemp. down and still create a backlog of arcs, but then they added the turn off xp thing to alleviate that too. The devs were on their stuff as time went on in that game. Although looking back, I wish the community as a whole wasn't "speed run" fanatics. where one could actually slow down a bit and get major rewards while enjoying the storyline. One of the reasons I wished TFs were soloable. Too much speed runs. I guess people were short on time all the time. Nothing like getting into a mission and two seconds later it's complete because the invisible guy ran to the end of the mission sometimes before all the team was able to load into the map.  It just seemed like more people treated the missions and the TFs more as an inconvenient chore to level. It sucked the fun out of it for me. Now I aint saying I wished it took all day, but it would be nice to kill something every now and then. Which seemed to be the only time I was able to, was when I played solo. Then people ask, Why play solo in an MMO? So I can actually kill some stuff and enjoy the game instead of doing map tours and hanging around people that is always in a rush.
Apparently there is a lot of people now coming forward that also enjoyed doing the actual missions and TFs and looked at the missions as an adventure and not a chore to hurry up and rush through and get it over with for the end bonus only. Only if I came across them while the game was up I might have a less cynical view on teaming with others and the importance of it and enhance my COX playing experience and thus probably would have lasted to the end. But it's heart warming knowing even when it's too late, that people like that exist and give me hope that COX game will be replaced and I will have second chance to meet them instead of coming across only people that want to speed run.

There probably were many more, but usually been sped run to death.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyShin on August 12, 2013, 10:19:29 PM
I came upon this little page in some odd corner of the interwebs...

It featured an image of Vietnamese citizens paying tribute to fallen war heroes...

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.dtinews.vn%2Fimages%2Feditor%2Fimages%2Flanhieu%2F72013%2F27%2FBig%2Ftr1b.jpg)


This strangely reminds me of the Statesman emblem/Paragon Studios logo..Especially with that banner in the background.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=images2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20061030145129%2Fparagon%2Fimages%2Fa%2Fa2%2FStatesman_ava02.gif)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Randomvector on August 13, 2013, 01:17:46 AM
Had a dream last night that I joined with Nemesis to fight a plague in Paragon city. SO...not handling stuff so well even now.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on August 13, 2013, 01:20:48 AM
wait... so you're saying it wasn't a nemesis plot? :o
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on August 13, 2013, 02:01:39 AM
wait... so you're saying it wasn't a nemesis plot? :o
*dopeslap*

Of course it was a Nemesis plot.  Everything's a Nemesis plot.  It's just some times, Nemesis likes to lure heroes into a false sense of security by making them think it wasn't a Nemesis plot, or that things exist that aren't Nemesis plots.

It's all just a turn of the cogs in the great machine that is Nemesis's Plot.

 :P
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 13, 2013, 02:06:26 AM
wait... so you're saying it wasn't a nemesis plot? :o

Whoa whoa, let's not be hasty. No-one is saying it's not a nemesis plot. He was probably just trying to capture Randomvector after he'd become distracted dealing with the plague. Or collect a DNA sample while he was administering a vaccine. Or gain access to the hospital's research lab. Or build up sympathy points once it was "discovered" that he "didn't" have anything to do with the plague at all. Or...

Damn that sneaky oil can, now he's got me seeing plots in other people's dreams. Someone really needs to kill arrest his rusty butt already. Arrest it into a million pieces. >:(


Edit: Yeah, what Kaiser said.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on August 13, 2013, 03:16:17 AM
Damn that sneaky oil can, now he's got me seeing plots in other people's dreams.

Seems like his plot is plotting as intended then.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Randomvector on August 13, 2013, 12:06:23 PM
In the dream I did have the thought "this is probably a plot, but Can I Take That Chance?"

Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: AngieB on August 13, 2013, 03:31:21 PM
You know that feeling you get when you know there is something that you should be doing but, for the life of you, cannot remember? That is what this last year has felt like for our family. We are adrift. My husband and children lament the loss and have not found a place to call "home" as of yet. The kids are playing console games but none hold them for long. My husband is not playing anything at all. He loved CoH and not having access to it is...lonely. I have tried several games but I have not found one that can replicate or replace the feelings I had for CoH.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on August 14, 2013, 12:36:09 AM
Something I mentioned in another thread just now. . . .

The impending shutdown notice was August 31.

We're coming up on a year from that, now.  Is there anything in mind?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: VyoletRose on August 14, 2013, 05:00:16 PM
Something I mentioned in another thread just now. . . .

The impending shutdown notice was August 31.

We're coming up on a year from that, now.  Is there anything in mind?

I have an idea in mind that's a combination of the letter-writing/masks campaign that I would like to pitch. We now have a website that I have built: ourcityofheroes.com (http://www.ourcityofheroes.com/) - so then we can revive the Banners for Ads (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,8204.msg112846.html#msg112846) thread.

As part of the website, I would like to incorporate a self-mailer that anyone can download, write on and mail to NCSoft or even Google. Give me a sec and I'll show you an example of what I'm driving at...
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: VyoletRose on August 14, 2013, 05:25:03 PM
Here's the idea I had. Whatchathink?

Of course, you cannot cut out the eyes otherwise the letter will be returned to you.

(https://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy19/VyoletRose/Example-Letter-Mask.jpg)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on August 14, 2013, 05:57:53 PM
spiffy
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on August 15, 2013, 03:59:10 AM
Looks kinda cool.  :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 15, 2013, 06:35:50 AM
Didn't handle it well at all. Kinda fell into depression and there was a month where all I did was read homestuck. Which i was reading before the closure announcement, but after that it was about all I could do. Played Champions for a bit. It didn't fill the hole.

And now that I've looked in this thread I'm going to start calling everything Nemesis plots again. xD Life is better that way.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: OzonePrime on August 15, 2013, 11:53:39 AM
Like it! Maybe a twitter barage also?
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on August 18, 2013, 05:52:54 PM
When August 31st arrives, I will once again feel the pain of loss I felt when servers closed for the last time....but then I will reaffirm my belief that we WILL have our City back someday. I refuse to give up my faith and hope.

(https://i.imgur.com/yqk5P6F.gif)


Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Captain Electric on August 19, 2013, 03:55:57 AM
Same.

When people give up, nothing happens. And since that isn't an option, that only leaves us one choice.

Keep the hope, and see what happens.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: OzonePrime on August 19, 2013, 11:25:34 AM
Same.

When people give up, nothing happens. And since that isn't an option, that only leaves us one choice.

Keep the hope, and see what happens.

/em holdtorch
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LaughingAlex on August 19, 2013, 06:16:24 PM
Still hoping for CoX to return as well, and also hopeful for the spiritual successor projects.  Cause in the long-term I'm iritated at CO, because unless they get new stuff this upcoming year(this year is bogus, even with the new department they still have to implement all of this years weak sauce).  New powers arrive gimped, in that, well, they really are to weak to be useful, due to the community poisoning the developers with "This is overpowered, make this useless cause it's to damaging, and it interrupts to much, nerf that to so cookie cutter pvp builds don't have to change!".  I've to be frank a hard time believing CO will ever get any depth to it and CO just doesn't hold a cup of tea cause while it had all the potential it gets squandered due to morons crying nerf cause even though they want buffs to powers they seem to have become pessimistic morons who expect the devs to only nerf anything.  And lets not even mention Zone chat.  The few things that SHOULD be nerfed(such as devices that do far more damage then the player, like the teleosaurus pharamones which can have 5 active at once!) get DEFENDED cause of the double standards in the community....(as if they want only the ultra, ultra rich in CO to be the only ones having all the damage).

I miss CoX, and honestly CO has only really rekindled my nostalgia.  The sole reason I play it anymore is roleplaying, if I were to lose that, CO would be dead to me, because I have fun in other games regarding actually playing them alot of the time.  The general stupidity of the die-hards of CO only rubs me in the worst ways in places.  Roleplayers are still the only intelligent players I tend to run into over there, but theres always tools asking for nerfs to powers that are good, then defending only their own powers/devices so they can have that automatic edge over others....
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: JaguarX on August 19, 2013, 06:39:16 PM

I miss CoX, and honestly CO has only really rekindled my nostalgia.  The sole reason I play it anymore is roleplaying, if I were to lose that, CO would be dead to me, because I have fun in other games regarding actually playing them alot of the time.  The general stupidity of the die-hards of CO only rubs me in the worst ways in places.  Roleplayers are still the only intelligent players I tend to run into over there, but theres always tools asking for nerfs to powers that are good, then defending only their own powers/devices so they can have that automatic edge over others....
The cries for nerfs happen in just about most MMOs. At least the ones I came across.

The sad part is that the devs seem to actually listen and swing the nerf bat, a term I first heard of in COX during the usual nerf cries for some powers being too strong or over powered. 
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LaughingAlex on August 19, 2013, 08:29:25 PM
The cries for nerfs happen in just about most MMOs. At least the ones I came across.

The sad part is that the devs seem to actually listen and swing the nerf bat, a term I first heard of in COX during the usual nerf cries for some powers being too strong or over powered.

Thats honestly exactly it.  Rather then listen to everyone who wants to see powers being good, they listen to those who want the powers to remain crappy.  And it's a nasty double standard.  Like crowd control players in CO actually don't want telepathy to have any damage; cause the way crowd control works is ALL Damage tends to break it.  Well by that logic damage dealers should not even attack with AoEs or anything....yet they are perfectly ok with every other themed powerset having some form of damage.  The fact that the devs listen to those players only alienates me.  I wanted to make a telepathy toon that coudl actually have a solid punch besides just crowd control, but nooooo, the telepathy powers got nerfed so much on test that they were useless enough to be ignored on live.  Everyone called it a useless update.  Force's redirect force was also nerfed into near uselessness to, due to the short duration of the buff and the low damage resistance buff that used to be 100%.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on August 20, 2013, 06:25:23 AM
I'm still not handling the loss well.  Pining for CoH made me try CO again lately, and that wound up just reopening old wounds.

I detailed that exhaustively in another thread though.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on August 20, 2013, 01:56:44 PM
I'm still not handling the loss well.  Pining for CoH made me try CO again lately, and that wound up just reopening old wounds.

... that was exactly what I'm doing, though the wounds haven't quite opened yet.

Trying to decide whether I'll resubscribe, or just play Silver for a while.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on August 20, 2013, 07:14:43 PM
I still cry when I see the tribute videos of the end....the loss hurts. That being said, it only fans the flame of hope in my heart that we will  be able to enter the City again. The fires withing burn with all the '/emholdtorches' my heart can hold.

(https://i.imgur.com/F4oZ5Jyl.jpg)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Gr8ape on August 23, 2013, 04:59:56 AM

This is still such a sad thing.  There are heartstrings yet to break over this long term loss.  The connections with people out there, the love of the game and the time teaming with my daughter are priceless.  NC soft, you have hurt us all.  I have tried every game out there....  None compare to COX.  I will miss this time playing on my computer forever.  I'm just crying inside and I don't think it will ever stop.  Love all those who miss COX as much as I.  Good luck to you all!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 23, 2013, 07:37:46 AM
Reading through this thread . . . I figured I'd post again for my dad. He's still not taking it well. He wont get on here though, I've told him about the forums; says it would just upset him more. Almost everyday we wind up talking about city. At the end of our talks he goes back into his rooms. The end of these talks come suddenly. I tell myself he's playing his new game or something . . . I know what he's really doing though. Thinking of your father crying. It's a painful thing. He used to have an Arachnos shirt he'd wear this thing at least once a week. Ever since that announcement though . . . I haven't seen that shirt. I don't even know if he still has it.

My father and I haven't grown distant since the closure, but we don't have the same bond. It used to be, "Hey it's friday. Ready to run through a task force?" "Hey, come on this team and be my tank." or, "Let's show them what we can really do." Now it's only, "Remember that time when . . . ?" The memories are great and I love reminiscing with him but our relationship isn't the same. We try other games. They aren't the same. :/ Kinda silly I guess to think of being so close to my dad through a game, but it was great relationship.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on August 23, 2013, 10:05:27 AM
Nothing silly about it, Punkus.  Some kids bond with their Dads over baseball, or philosophy, automotive repair, or watching pro-wrestling.  You and your Dad had City of Heroes.

Every time I read something like this, I feel three things.  A pleasant warmth, at being once again reassured that City was more than just a simple MMO to so many of our community.  A twinge of envy, as I would have loved to been able to bond with my family members over CoH like you and others have.  And a deep, bile-filled, sulfurous, smoldering loathing for NCsoft, for destroying the medium through which these special relationships operated.

I don't wanna speak for others, but it'd mean a lot to me personally if you can give him a hug, and let him know that even if he can't bear to be here due to the pain of memories, he and others like him, for whom CoH was not just a game, are in my thoughts.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on August 23, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
PunkusJR...PLEASE don't give up hope that you and your dad will get your Fridays in Paragon back! A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on August 23, 2013, 09:08:57 PM
I wish someone would at least tell us they're making progress on the private servers... hell they can use my a_noni_moose handle if needs be!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 23, 2013, 09:55:31 PM
^^ Thanks guys. I haven't given up yet. Don't plan on it either. I was that blaster with rise of the phoenix after all >:D Teamwipe? I don't care I'm standing up! They might kill me again, but I'm taking some of them with me! >:D

I wish someone would at least tell us they're making progress on the private servers... hell they can use my a_noni_moose handle if needs be!

I get why they can't, but I agree it is kinda annoying to be in the dark about it. Anyone working on it, thankyou. You're not the one causing the annoyance here.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 23, 2013, 10:40:24 PM
I was that blaster with rise of the phoenix after all >:D Teamwipe? I don't care I'm standing up! They might kill me again, but I'm taking some of them with me! >:D

That's the kind of attitude that can make even the most grizzled old scrapper proud. *sniffle*
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on August 23, 2013, 11:07:52 PM
That's the kind of attitude that can make even the most grizzled old scrapper proud. *sniffle*
This is why I like Dark Armor (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Dark_Armor) on Brutes and Tankers.

I loved being able to get right back up after going down amidst a crowd of enemies.  i'M bAaaAAAAaaaaCkkkK...

I should've made a Street Justice/Dark Armor Brute character named "Cauldron-Born" after the unstoppable undead monstrosities of Irish Myth.  If it had been out, I'd have used Savage Melee for him instead.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 23, 2013, 11:16:44 PM
This is why I like Dark Armor (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Dark_Armor) on Brutes and Tankers.

I loved being able to get right back up after going down amidst a crowd of enemies.  i'M bAaaAAAAaaaaCkkkK...

I should've made a Street Justice/Dark Armor Brute character named "Cauldron-Born" after the unstoppable undead monstrosities of Irish Myth.  If it had been out, I'd have used Savage Melee for him instead.

Haha, I wanted to make a blaster with the martial secondary (I forgot what it was going to be called now) so bad xD That wasn't going to be a pretty sight. . . But it would have been fun.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on August 23, 2013, 11:35:43 PM
Haha, I wanted to make a blaster with the martial secondary (I forgot what it was going to be called now) so bad xD That wasn't going to be a pretty sight. . . But it would have been fun.
It was Martial Combat (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Martial_Combat), my friend.

Reaction Time and Reach for the Limit were so broken on beta server.  Throw Sand was kinda bastardry as well.  Since it blinds enemies, you could almost use it as a cone AoE placate.  Martial Combat actually had a lot of survivability for a blaster combat set, enough so that there were a lot of blappers on beta who used it.  Generally, it was just tough enough to get you into melee, where your bevy of offensive powers and sheer ridiculous damage output would put them down before they'd put you down.

Blasters would've gotten a lot of buffs in i24.  They were damned vicious on beta.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 24, 2013, 12:41:42 AM
It was Martial Combat (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Martial_Combat), my friend.

I cannot say that without thinking "Maaaaartiaaaaaal Kooooombaaaaat!!!"

FIGHT!

*punch* *punch* *BAMF!* *kick-kick-kick* *BAMF!* *smack smack smack* *KA-PUNCH*

... Flawless Victory.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on August 24, 2013, 12:54:20 AM
and now I'll have that ear worm all night
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on August 24, 2013, 12:57:05 AM
FIGHT!

*punch* *punch* *BAMF!* *kick-kick-kick* *BAMF!* *smack smack smack* *KA-PUNCH*

... Flawless Victory.
*steps out from behind a now battered and smoking Arachnobot*  I'll bill you for the repairs later.

Anyway, Martial Combat was basically intended to let someone use a Blaster to re-create a Fighting Game character, in the vein of characters like Ryu or most of the cast of Mortal Kombat.  Martial arts combined with some kind of themed projectiles.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: DJMoose on August 24, 2013, 04:01:28 AM
Martial arts combined with some kind of themed projectiles.
That was "Martial Assault" to a T.  SHURIKEN IN YOUR FACE!  And OMG was it fun to use.  I had loads of fun with Void Summoner, my Dark Control/Martial Assault Dominator on Beta.  But thinking about all of that potential gone makes me all mad and sad again.

Damn you NCSoft....Damn you...

And then I think about how we are almost upon the one year anniversary of the shutdown announcement; I wish we could hold another Unity Rally of some type in remembrance.  But to have to live through Black Friday again...

But seriously we as a community need to have another Rally of some type to remind everyone, and especially NCSoft, that we are still here and have not simply rolled over and died.

Don't know if TonyV has anything planned for that terrible day, but I will be on ICON in Atlas Park with all of my characters and all of them will be /emholdtorch.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 24, 2013, 05:42:40 AM
It was Martial Combat (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Martial_Combat), my friend.

Reaction Time and Reach for the Limit were so broken on beta server.  Throw Sand was kinda bastardry as well.  Since it blinds enemies, you could almost use it as a cone AoE placate.  Martial Combat actually had a lot of survivability for a blaster combat set, enough so that there were a lot of blappers on beta who used it.  Generally, it was just tough enough to get you into melee, where your bevy of offensive powers and sheer ridiculous damage output would put them down before they'd put you down.

Blasters would've gotten a lot of buffs in i24.  They were damned vicious on beta.

Oh, I was so excited. Blasters became my favorite class once I realized, in other games, that I loved being a glass cannon. :/ Hoping if any fan servers pop up at least one or two will be the beta.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: HEATSTROKE on August 24, 2013, 05:28:01 PM
I am still at the stage of ANGRY...
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Golden Girl on August 24, 2013, 06:50:59 PM
Reading through this thread . . . I figured I'd post again for my dad. He's still not taking it well. He wont get on here though, I've told him about the forums; says it would just upset him more. Almost everyday we wind up talking about city. At the end of our talks he goes back into his rooms. The end of these talks come suddenly. I tell myself he's playing his new game or something . . . I know what he's really doing though. Thinking of your father crying. It's a painful thing. He used to have an Arachnos shirt he'd wear this thing at least once a week. Ever since that announcement though . . . I haven't seen that shirt. I don't even know if he still has it.

My father and I haven't grown distant since the closure, but we don't have the same bond. It used to be, "Hey it's friday. Ready to run through a task force?" "Hey, come on this team and be my tank." or, "Let's show them what we can really do." Now it's only, "Remember that time when . . . ?" The memories are great and I love reminiscing with him but our relationship isn't the same. We try other games. They aren't the same. :/ Kinda silly I guess to think of being so close to my dad through a game, but it was great relationship.

We're working as hard and fast as we can to get "Heroes and Villains" up and running - you and your dad will be teaming up as superheroes again.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 24, 2013, 07:34:53 PM
We're working as hard and fast as we can to get "Heroes and Villains" up and running - you and your dad will be teaming up as superheroes again.

I'm really excited for that. So is my dad actually :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on August 24, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
2-4-6-8

who do we appreciate?

GOLDEN GIRL...GOLDEN GIRL...YAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GOLDEN GIRL!!!

(https://i.imgur.com/7nkdbTP.gif)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: corvus1970 on August 24, 2013, 11:48:59 PM
So, we're almost at 1 year since the closure announcement. How am I handling the loss at this time?

I try not to think about it. And when I do, I try to stay positive and remember the good times. Things like Titan ICON help a lot, but its only a fractional substitute for our beloved, lost gaming world.

And yeah...I too am still angry about it all.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on August 25, 2013, 01:57:38 AM
It's 3:55 am here.  I'm trying to sleep, but I can't, because all I want to do is run some missions, maybe even an iTrial or two.  This is not the first time.

That's how I'm handling it: insomnia.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on August 25, 2013, 02:36:37 AM
It's 3:55 am here.  I'm trying to sleep, but I can't, because all I want to do is run some missions, maybe even an iTrial or two.  This is not the first time.

That's how I'm handling it: insomnia.
that's every day for the last three weeks for me. "all I want to do is fracking log in and see people and run missions!"
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 25, 2013, 04:03:31 AM
that's every day for the last three weeks for me. "all I want to do is fracking log in and see people and run missions!"
oh for me it's everytime I get bored of another game/drawing/writing. And then it's not there so I go, "I guess I'll go on youtube." Funny you'd think my productivity on my art would skyrocket without the game, but nope xD
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on August 25, 2013, 08:11:01 AM
For so many of us, there is an empty spot that can't be filled with just anything. Having our City back would feel like having a lost piece of  the heart back.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kaiser Tarantula on August 25, 2013, 05:21:46 PM
I still find myself hurting.  Playing CO a few weeks back reopened a lot of old wounds.  So much so I can't even play around with Icon without feeling it.

I've been trying to lose myself in other games - mostly Risk of Rain and Don't Starve.  Stuff about as far from the superhero genre as I can get.

But... as the year anniversary of the shutdown announcement draws close, I find myself increasingly raw-of-nerve.  It's a bit hard to sleep sometimes because I'll get to thinking about the great stuff from CoH that I could be doing right now.  I've snapped at a few people for saying things about CoH that I didn't agree with.

I guess I'm still not taking it well.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 25, 2013, 06:56:04 PM
Funny you'd think my productivity on my art would skyrocket without the game, but nope xD

I've found that when you enjoy what you're doing you can spend most of your time playing and still be productive at working. Your mind's being engaged, your creativity's being satisfied, you're just feeling good overall. Work and play both go better when you're having a good day.

But if you're bored and uninspired, you could have twice the time available and still get less done. You just sit there on your butt, feeling your brain go numb bit by bit, and you're well aware that an eternity is passing but somehow there's still never time to accomplish anything.

That's why I'm doing my damnedest to stay upbeat during all this. See, my Dad had a major stroke a couple years ago and now I'm looking after him. Health wise he's doing much better now but he still can't do things like meals or housework, so I simply can't afford to fall apart. If I give in to depression or bitterness and sink into a rut, he pays for it, and that's just not an option.

So I watch fun TV shows and Youtube channels. I play creative video games and immersive board games. I come here and make silly jokes so I can laugh, and maybe make someone else laugh a bit. Whatever it takes to stay positive, man. 'Cause giving up just ain't a choice for me.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 25, 2013, 07:13:09 PM
I've found that when you enjoy what you're doing you can spend most of your time playing and still be productive at working. Your mind's being engaged, your creativity's being satisfied, you're just feeling good overall. Work and play both go better when you're having a good day.

But if you're bored and uninspired, you could have twice the time available and still get less done. You just sit there on your butt, feeling your brain go numb bit by bit, and you're well aware that an eternity is passing but somehow there's still never time to accomplish anything.

That's why I'm doing my damnedest to stay upbeat during all this. See, my Dad had a major stroke a couple years ago and now I'm looking after him. Health wise he's doing much better now but he still can't do things like meals or housework, so I simply can't afford to fall apart. If I give in to depression or bitterness and sink into a rut, he pays for it, and that's just not an option.

So I watch fun TV shows and Youtube channels. I play creative video games and immersive board games. I come here and make silly jokes so I can laugh, and maybe make someone else laugh a bit. Whatever it takes to stay positive, man. 'Cause giving up just ain't a choice for me.

You make a good point. I'm sorry to hear about your dad. Hang in there man.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Kemphler on August 25, 2013, 07:15:42 PM
Nearly one year post-announcement...Still angry and hurt. Got into an argument the other day with someone because I hadn't let go of a pair of my characters from City of Heroes and moved them into another game, even though what they were didn't match up with the game lore for RP purposes...It's...Why should I ever let go? I played CoH from just a few weeks after I turned 12, until the shutdown when I was a few months into being 20 years old. My entire teenage life was led by CoH. I didn't really have a social life outside of it....It's...still raw, it's still hurting.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 25, 2013, 07:24:09 PM
Nearly one year post-announcement...Still angry and hurt. Got into an argument the other day with someone because I hadn't let go of a pair of my characters from City of Heroes and moved them into another game, even though what they were didn't match up with the game lore for RP purposes...It's...Why should I ever let go? I played CoH from just a few weeks after I turned 12, until the shutdown when I was a few months into being 20 years old. My entire teenage life was led by CoH. I didn't really have a social life outside of it....It's...still raw, it's still hurting.

You shouldn't let go. I know exactly how you feel. And I've had some people tell me to do the same. :/ But I don't want to let go. Might as well tell me (and you it seems) to let go of your home town.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: therain93 on August 25, 2013, 07:26:57 PM
As the 1 year anniversary of the announcement approaches, I aimlessly float from game to game, with no great interest in staying with one for long. Money I've spent on those games all this time gladly would have been given to NcSoft.   I still miss City of Heroes and crave to play it.
 
#SaveCoH
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 25, 2013, 08:16:42 PM
You make a good point. I'm sorry to hear about your dad. Hang in there man.

Thanks man. And believe me, I'm hanging in just fine. 'Cause what happened to Dad isn't even the worst thing that happened that month. Ten days before he went into the hospital for that stroke, Mom went in (on my frigging birthday no less) for complications due to her cancer. She passed a month later, and we couldn't even properly mourn because we had to stay strong for Dad. So believe me when I say, if THAT **** didn't destroy me, then there's no way a pack of dirtbags in fancy suits is ever gonna knock me down.

Our city may be closed to us for now, but there are already people working on our way back in, it's only a matter of time. We just need to find something to do while we wait. We stay positive, conserve our emotional energy, and if they ask us to help, we help.   Edit: And you know what else? Laugh. Laugh a lot. It helps.

Stay strong, everybody. We will stalk those streets and fly those skies again.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 25, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
Thanks man. And believe me, I'm hanging in just fine. 'Cause what happened to Dad isn't even the worst thing that happened that month. Ten days before he went into the hospital for that stroke, Mom went in (on my frigging birthday no less) for complications due to her cancer. She passed a month later, and we couldn't even properly mourn because we had to stay strong for Dad. So believe me when I say, if THAT **** didn't destroy me, then there's no way a pack of dirtbags in fancy suits is ever gonna knock me down.

Our city may be closed to us for now, but there are already people working on our way back in, it's only a matter of time. We just need to find something to do while we wait. We stay positive, conserve our emotional energy, and if they ask us to help, we help.   Edit: And you know what else? Laugh. Laugh a lot. It helps.

Stay strong, everybody. We will stalk those streets and fly those skies again.

Haha, yea. One day :3c Plus we have our memories. ^^ On the note of doing otherthings, there needs to be a group somewhere for us to play games together. ftp stuff, or some other games xD
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 26, 2013, 03:27:16 AM
On the note of doing otherthings, there needs to be a group somewhere for us to play games together. ftp stuff, or some other games xD

I thought I heard there was a Steam group, but I don't do much on Steam so I'm not sure. I'm thinking it's worth starting one if there's not already though. And hey, hit up the Other Games section too, there might already be a group somewhere. *shrugs* Can't hurt to check. :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 26, 2013, 05:42:15 AM
I thought I heard there was a Steam group, but I don't do much on Steam so I'm not sure. I'm thinking it's worth starting one if there's not already though. And hey, hit up the Other Games section too, there might already be a group somewhere. *shrugs* Can't hurt to check. :)

haha, yea I probably should xD
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: therain93 on August 26, 2013, 06:08:07 AM
I thought I heard there was a Steam group, but I don't do much on Steam so I'm not sure. I'm thinking it's worth starting one if there's not already though. And hey, hit up the Other Games section too, there might already be a group somewhere. *shrugs* Can't hurt to check. :)
City of Heroes! (Unofficial) is the group:  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/coh-unofficial (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/coh-unofficial)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 26, 2013, 01:21:23 PM
City of Heroes! (Unofficial) is the group:  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/coh-unofficial (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/coh-unofficial)

Aha! I thought so :D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Ellscry on August 26, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
Haha, yea. One day :3c Plus we have our memories. ^^
You are so very right. I was hit hard by the loss, but It was helped immensely by Icon and the work of the fantastic Syrusb Liz. Shameless promotion: she created this fantastic work of art for me to crystallize my memories and feelings:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=fc00.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Ff%2F2013%2F178%2F3%2F4%2Flc_ellscrycs2_by_syrusbliz-d6aw6t9.jpg)

It helped me with my loss, and I will always be grateful.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 26, 2013, 06:18:23 PM
You are so very right. I was hit hard by the loss, but It was helped immensely by Icon and the work of the fantastic Syrusb Liz. Shameless promotion: she created this fantastic work of art for me to crystallize my memories and feelings:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=fc00.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Ff%2F2013%2F178%2F3%2F4%2Flc_ellscrycs2_by_syrusbliz-d6aw6t9.jpg)

It helped me with my loss, and I will always be grateful.

:o That's amazing. Kinda jealous xD JKJK

City of Heroes! (Unofficial) is the group:  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/coh-unofficial (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/coh-unofficial)


*runs off to join* thank you for the link.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: DrakeGrimm on August 28, 2013, 05:20:45 PM
...one year later, and I'm still really -not- "handling it." There's a hole in my heart that only City can fill, a place called "home" that can only be met by Paragon, Rhode Island. A word called "family" that is filled only by members of the City community.

I mostly try to ignore the pain, bury myself in other things. That's how I get by. It's really easy to do right now, given my living situation, but I will always miss the wonderful patterns of chaos that flew through the streets of the digital City I chose to call my home.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on August 29, 2013, 05:47:43 AM
Just keep holding on and believing that we will somehow get our City back!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 29, 2013, 06:15:06 AM
Just keep holding on and believing that we will somehow get our City back!

Oh great, now I've got Journey (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbqzhXWl33U) stuck in my head. THANKS.


... No really, thanks. It's a great song :)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Lycantropus on August 29, 2013, 07:49:39 AM
This reassurance made my day, Tony.  Thank you for everything you do.

I know I've said similar before, but agreed. When it comes to City of Heroes, I feel so... powerless about it, and am so thankful to those more talented, and/or tech-savvy than I, caring enough about this game to keep it alive, in both trying to revive the game itself, and in the projects in which they try to reproduce how we feel about it.

Even then, I have to realize how lucky I am that most of my SG mates and I have managed to stay together through the loss. As an 'older' group of gamers (small group of 30-40's and more+ as our makeup) we aren't inclined to just 'move on to the next thing' and I was really worried that I'd lose friends I'd spent over seven years of weeknights together over this. Hearing how so many folks lost touch with their SG's and our little group keeps 'chugging along' makes me realize how fortunate I am.

It's funny that most games that call themselves "MMO"s cater to teams of 4 or so. We've never really had trouble with too many people online for it to be an issue. Now, it's an issue fairly often. One of ours has been overseas in service and is now looking for stateside employment and between him and 3 other folks who show up fairly regular, it looks like we're going to have to do a 'two team' thing, which is a shame, as most of us log on to play with each other. On top of the fact that we keep saying "there's no place like home" to remind ourselves of our situation... it's hard.

Even then, I have to be thankful we're still together somehow, and sometimes that can be just as hard. Trying to organize our little group when we're 'overfull' on teams when in CoH we'd 'finally have a full team'... and making sure we can all participate and accomplish what we're doing any given night (prerequisites, purchased updates, etc.) continues to be harder than its seems it should most days.

When I speak of handling the loss, I can't just speak for myself. We're still working through the rough patches and while we've found other things that entertain us, we just want our city back.

This thread continues to illustrate we're not the only ones.

Beautiful artwork, Ellscry.

Lyc~
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Floride on August 29, 2013, 08:42:40 AM
I made this for the anniversary today. Kinda answers the question. Still heartbroken and full of disdain while utterly confused.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=img22.imageshack.us%2Fimg22%2F3268%2Feh4n.png)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: OzonePrime on August 29, 2013, 11:24:00 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on August 29, 2013, 04:42:59 PM
.__. Part of me says to set that as my wallpaper for the day even though it knows that will upset the other part of me.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on August 29, 2013, 08:45:38 PM
and now I have this vision of Libby on her knees screaming "KAAAAHHHHHHHNNNNN!!!!!"
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Triplash on August 30, 2013, 03:25:15 AM
I made this for the anniversary today. Kinda answers the question. Still heartbroken and full of disdain while utterly confused.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=img22.imageshack.us%2Fimg22%2F3268%2Feh4n.png)

That is really powerful. I want so badly to go stand on those steps again. With other people I mean.

Also, I just had a really strong urge to tell Ms Liberty to come reminisce on the forums with us. I... may need more sleep. :-\
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on August 30, 2013, 04:24:35 AM
That picture is beautiful, in a sad sort of way.  Well done.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Floride on August 30, 2013, 05:20:57 AM
I feel your pain
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: NecrotechMaster on August 30, 2013, 05:49:45 AM
coh was still the only mmo that could ever keep my attention longer than a week or 2

what ive been doing in the last year? burning through my steam games list (im nearing approx 700 games now, thanks steam summer sale lol) and i think ive played approximately 100-200 games in the last year both trying to find something that would kill some time, as well as steam trading cards (damn steam trading cards lol)

the only mmo that ive found somewhat entertaining in the meantime is the one called defiance, but its certaintly no coh
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LT. Couper on September 08, 2013, 12:27:52 PM
Last night I had a dream about CoH that vaguely resembled a mission/taskforce in Strigia, fighting off the 5th Column and Council baddies. And it made me really long to play my peacebringer. Just kinda tears at me, having dreams like that. :'(

For some reason, the pain today feels as strong as if it were November 30th/December 1st all over again.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LaughingAlex on September 08, 2013, 10:34:52 PM
The pain of the loss was especially bad today, and last night.  An RP session went faulty on me because someone watch's to many bad anime's where one tiny little fighter or power armor suit "destroys 7 battleships in one shot!", bleh, the worst part of this godmoding is, well, the persons trying to stick to the lore of CO.  Problem is he makes it even more cheesy and black/white then it already is, which deeply annoyed me.

I realise that CoX didn't have perfect lore either but, I realise more then before how it's actually reasonably scaled.  And it was much more likable for it, compared to CO lore, which I honestly don't like at all anymore.  Because, it's just so black and white, and very bland to me because unfortunately the characters are cheesy, even the villains.  "Most advanced suit in the universe" got to me alot last night.

It's especially hard, and I'm hoping for CoX to return more then usual, and even more-so hoping to see how valiance online or the phoenix project goes.  Any of the plan Z's doing well would be a good thing, honestly I suspect it'd be the end of CO if they did to, a shame since CO had so much potential :(.  But thats life and the nature of competition.  Given CO likely won't get shut down but still, it'd certainly lost many players if good competition showed up again.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on September 09, 2013, 01:17:34 AM
The pain of the loss was especially bad today, and last night.  An RP session went faulty on me because someone watch's to many bad anime's where one tiny little fighter or power armor suit "destroys 7 battleships in one shot!", bleh, the worst part of this godmoding is, well, the persons trying to stick to the lore of CO.  Problem is he makes it even more cheesy and black/white then it already is, which deeply annoyed me.

I realise that CoX didn't have perfect lore either but, I realise more then before how it's actually reasonably scaled.  And it was much more likable for it, compared to CO lore, which I honestly don't like at all anymore.  Because, it's just so black and white, and very bland to me because unfortunately the characters are cheesy, even the villains.  "Most advanced suit in the universe" got to me alot last night.

It's especially hard, and I'm hoping for CoX to return more then usual, and even more-so hoping to see how valiance online or the phoenix project goes.  Any of the plan Z's doing well would be a good thing, honestly I suspect it'd be the end of CO if they did to, a shame since CO had so much potential :(.  But thats life and the nature of competition.  Given CO likely won't get shut down but still, it'd certainly lost many players if good competition showed up again.

I know what you mean with the lore. CoH's Lore wasn't perfect, I've played a lot of games with better lore, but it was great for a comic book based MMO. I mean I'm sure the Lore of DCU is good to . . . but that's based on actual comic series so it has an edge there. xD Anyways, hold onto hope. The plan Z's will come out, and the save city of heroes movement still exists so there's a chance we'll be able to go back even if it's small.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: navyrayne on September 12, 2013, 04:04:01 PM
I've not really posted on these boards, but all this time later I just can't let go. I believe this video (for those who have not yet seen it) still illustrates how I feel,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6QJmyP_azI

(https://i.imgur.com/qXnMnOE.jpg)

This was the last image I took of my main character, and I've not been able to bring myself to delete it.

Nothing else comes close, not CO, and not DCUO to the customization, the fun, the...well...FREEDOM to make the character I wanted to make.

I miss all those RP sessions on Virtue, all those friends made, all those TF's ran, all the joy of each new update..

I miss it all.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on September 12, 2013, 09:44:33 PM
I've not really posted on these boards, but all this time later I just can't let go. I believe this video (for those who have not yet seen it) still illustrates how I feel,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6QJmyP_azI

(https://i.imgur.com/qXnMnOE.jpg)

This was the last image I took of my main character, and I've not been able to bring myself to delete it.

Nothing else comes close, not CO, and not DCUO to the customization, the fun, the...well...FREEDOM to make the character I wanted to make.

I miss all those RP sessions on Virtue, all those friends made, all those TF's ran, all the joy of each new update..

I miss it all.

Personally I wouldn't delete it. Mine were deleted by accident and I've missed them ever since. You just have to hold on and be part of the community. :) The kickstarter for TPP starts soon. Personally I'm hopeful for it and the other plan Z's to turn out well.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on September 12, 2013, 10:45:41 PM
I am sitting here sobbing after watching that video, remembering the loss I felt when the server shut down for the last time. So much fun, so many friends....a part of my life for 8 years was gone. I HAVE to believe that we will get it back.  I won't stop believing that. The torch of hope burns brighter than ever in my heart, and we will all have our City back some day.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: navyrayne on September 12, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
Every time I watch that video healix, I am filled with regret and hurt. Though, for some reason, I can't stop watching it.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on September 13, 2013, 05:35:42 PM
Personally I wouldn't delete it. Mine were deleted by accident and I've missed them ever since. You just have to hold on and be part of the community. :) The kickstarter for TPP starts soon. Personally I'm hopeful for it and the other plan Z's to turn out well.

I went through and took screenshots of all of my characters, and in addition to being squirrelled away on disk, I have them all in a folder on my tablet where I can pull them up and look through them to keep the memory... and the hope... alive.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: PunkusJR on September 13, 2013, 07:28:15 PM
I went through and took screenshots of all of my characters, and in addition to being squirrelled away on disk, I have them all in a folder on my tablet where I can pull them up and look through them to keep the memory... and the hope... alive.

Heh, that's the way. ^^ I've taken a lot of screenies in the Icon and been using them as Icons and such.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Illusionss on September 15, 2013, 08:03:06 AM
Now why on earth would anyone want to delete screenies of a beloved alt??? I lost about 5000 screenies in a hard drive crash shortly before shutdown announcement. I still mourn those mementoes THAT I CAN NEVER REPLACE.

I took about 3000 more before shutdown and I am still taking them in Icon. Your alts are treasures. Cherish the mementoes you have; especially the last shot you have. I would slice off a pinky before I deleted that!!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on September 15, 2013, 11:26:43 AM
I don't know when we will get our city back, but when we do....I'd like to think this will happen

(https://i.imgur.com/1tmFvKIl.jpg)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Eoraptor on September 16, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Plus One
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on September 20, 2013, 12:11:18 AM
We have an anonymous request that goes out to NCSoft.

<Plays song> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jlHz0wF0Ig)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: LadyShin on November 01, 2013, 04:11:45 PM
This gave me a thought....

COH Theme: We Weren't born to follow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF3D2oiy6YA

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.heromachine.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2Fcity-of-heroes-1.jpg)


We weren't born to follow
Come on and get up off your knees
When life is a bitter pill to swallow
You gotta hold on to what you believe
Believe that the sun will shine tomorrow
And that your saints and sinners bleed
We weren't born to follow
You gotta stand up for what you believe

-Bon Jovi
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: kenpotiger on November 01, 2013, 10:01:40 PM
Wow...didnt realize the anniversary was so close?  I too and finding myself wanting CoH back.  Started jones'n for a superhero fix, havent played a superhero game since the shutdown, and found myself actually clicking on the CoH icon still on my desktop.  It was my go to hero fix.  So i downloaded and logged into DCUO for the first time and started looking for a way to "remake" my D3 Defender and found utter disappointment :(.  I know D3s werent the "best" but dang it i loved that toon.  I remember one day while leveling, I was around 47ish, and decided to see just how many rikti I could stack on me without getting defeated.  Man that was great, had so many a blaster flew by, stopped, watched for a min and whispered me if I needed help.  My reply? It was this, "No im good thanks :)....actually could you kill em for me :)" haha.

I wasnt very active in the community but man I regret that.  Still even a year later this community proves to be the closest and strongest of any game ive played....EVER.  I miss you guys! :(

J. Artigron (D3 Defender; Freedom)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: healix on November 02, 2013, 06:55:27 PM
I will continue to feel the loss until we get out City back. Other games are ok/terrible/fun but will never replace The City.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: srmalloy on November 05, 2013, 05:31:17 PM
Have to remember to make sure I fire up Icon and spend the last bit of November 30 in the plaza of Atlas Park.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Tubbius on December 01, 2013, 06:05:47 AM
The time is 1:00 a.m.  In two hours, almost to the minute, we reach the anniversary of the game's closure in the early hours of December 1, 2012.

I really, really miss City of Heroes and all it entailed.  I might try Icon, but I haven't yet; the music files, my HeroClix pieces, the CCG cards, my reminiscing with friends and girlfriend all mean that the game is still very fresh in my mind.

If I didn't have church in the morning, I'd likely stay up 'til three a.m. Eastern thinking back and reflecting, but I do, and I have a lot of papers to grade tomorrow, so I can't really do that.

As I think I've said before, there have been many games that I've backed off playing--simply slid away from over time to where I didn't really care to go back to play them as much.  Some of these have been online games: The Kingdom of Loathing, Graal Online, Gunz Online, Diablo 1-3.  For the first three, there was some sense of closure, some sense of completion.  For the Diablo series, I still install and play a little of those from time to time.  I don't know if the first two games in that list (The Kingdom of Loathing and Graal Online) are even still around, as I haven't checked them in ages, and Gunz closed quietly without my knowledge.  I simply tried to log in, and it wasn't there, and it didn't really hit me, as I hadn't played it in months.  When I lost my level 45 Warrior (Diablo 1) to a botched reinstall and my tweaked out 92 Paladin to not playing long enough to keep it active, there was a sick feeling in the stomach--regret--but not like the loss of City of Heroes.  I don't know that any of us who was actively playing in the months near the end was truly ready to see the game go.

All we can do is look to the future, with the various options available in the light of spiritual successors.  It's obvious that, by this time, the push to get NCSoft to reopen the game is likely a lost cause; it would be a wonderful, blessed miracle if they DID, but their track record is notoriously poor in these matters.

So here's to holding hope for the future of this community and for the future of the offshoots being brought up to honor the memory of City of Heroes.  May they all flourish and do well in years to come.

But for me?

I miss our City.

-- Tubbius of Justice Server
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Thunder Glove on December 01, 2013, 09:38:44 AM
It may not make you feel better about CoH (it certainly didn't for me), but Kingdom of Loathing is alive and well (and still getting constant updates), and the annual Crimbo event starts today.  In fact, playing the Crimbo content last year is one of the things that helped me get through that first month.

In the meantime, keep holding a torch for for CoT, VO, SCoRE, and even HaV.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: MWRuger on January 06, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
Well, it was in July the last time I checked into this thread. I'm beginning to believe that I will never get past City of Heroes.

I've tried a baker's dozen of MMO's. Some better than others but none that really gripped me like City of Heroes did.  My computer gaming right now is all single player and much of it retro (pre-2000 is my arbitrary cut-off for retro). I even started replaying the first computer game I ever played back in 1981.

TonyV posted on another thread that things are happening, but slowly, in That Project Which Must Be Named. But it was great to hear anything.

I load up Icon and play around for a little while just so I can keep current on it's state. Finally got the popmenus to work. (one stupid missing 's' was keeping it from working).

Other than that, it is on the list of things I have lost in life that I think about every day.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Cinnder on January 08, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
I've been sick with a severe cold/flu since last Thursday, with no medicine able to stop the coughs that prevent me from getting more than an hour or so of sleep at a time, so my brain is frazzled as much as my body at this point.  I've tried playing other games, but they are either too simple to relieve my boredom or too complex for my currently limited faculties.  CoX would have been the perfect emotional prescription for me right now.  Man do I miss that game!
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Auroxis on January 08, 2014, 02:10:54 PM
Trying to get the stuff that made CoH great into other online RPG's.

Other than that, not handling it that well since I'm posting here after all.
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Risha on January 23, 2014, 03:45:41 AM
Well, today I got a cover art idea request from my publisher for the 14th book in the series.  And for the first time in years I couldn't log on to COH to give a little bit of background landscape.  That's another first for me, and I didn't like it.  :'(
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: johnrobey on January 23, 2014, 07:16:44 PM
I confess I haven't read this thread in months, but this made me smile:

We have an anonymous request that goes out to NCSoft.

<Plays song> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jlHz0wF0Ig)
Thanks, Twisted!   ;D
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Twisted Toon on January 24, 2014, 07:34:21 PM
I confess I haven't read this thread in months, but this made me smile:
Thanks, Twisted!   ;D
Sometimes, there's no school like the old school.  ;)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Floride on January 26, 2014, 04:13:35 AM
We have an anonymous request that goes out to NCSoft.

<Plays song> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jlHz0wF0Ig)
Although this song was originally about warmongers (i think), the refrain was stuck in my head the day after the closing

If I had a rocket launcher, I'd make somebody pay - Bruce Cockburn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9HFjErMMlA)
Title: Re: How are you handling the loss?
Post by: Xieveral on January 30, 2014, 04:42:06 AM
I got a doll made by laylarei (http://rei2jewels.deviantart.com/). It really cheers me up to have Hyakki lurking around again.

(https://i.imgur.com/ypm4Mems.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/0VLjOzPs.jpg)