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Graveyard => Save Paragon Retirees => Save Paragon City! => Topic started by: Epelesker on December 05, 2012, 03:41:15 AM
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http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/gamereport/watching_the_world_end_SYqLhSXugwTjmKCWAnVAbJ#axzz2E8iEbN2e
War Witch tweeted a shortlink to this earlier. It's a fairly long but very nice article.
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Sorry about the length, I had a lot to get off my chest.
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Sorry about the length, I had a lot to get off my chest.
You made me cry. Got me right in the feels.
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Honest and sincere clapping. Plus, the NY Post! A very well known mainstream media outlet. Mayhaps you've just opened up our next media door.
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Sorry about the length, I had a lot to get off my chest.
Don't apologize for the length of the article. I think you did a very nice job explaining what was special about the game and the people (Devs and Players) who made it even more special to so many of us.
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A fine article!
NCSoft would be so utterly foolish not to capitulate and sell the IP. This kind of publicity will destroy them.
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Sorry about the length, I had a lot to get off my chest.
You. You do not apologize for this. This is beyond reproach, and I would be most personally offended if you demonstrated any regret at all for this article.
*gives Mikoroshi a big spidery hug*
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*gives Mikoroshi a big spidery hug*
Aghhshgshthanks
<puts a giant cup over you, gently slides a piece of paper under, and carefully deposits you outside in a bush>
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Excellent NY Post is mainstream media..
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Superb article, and there's no need to complain about the length. Its just perfect as far as I'm concerned.
So very well done!
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GRAND RE-OPENING
Don't get me wrong--I think a brief relaunch would be great--but I think at this point it might be better to lean towards a CoH2--same classes and powers for now, new environment and graphics. Set it maybe ten years later in an expanded Paragon City, post-"Coming Storm" and have the main plot exploring the events of that. Maybe utilize Ouroboros to relive it.
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The author of this article is a member of the SG I'm in (as well as the guild in GW2 where we all ended up) and I'm rather proud to say I was there for the engagement he discussed in the article.
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The author of this article is a member of the SG I'm in (as well as the guild in GW2 where we all ended up) and I'm rather proud to say I was there for the engagement he discussed in the article.
ebon 0_o
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Don't get me wrong--I think a brief relaunch would be great--but I think at this point it might be better to lean towards a CoH2--same classes and powers for now, new environment and graphics. Set it maybe ten years later in an expanded Paragon City, post-"Coming Storm" and have the main plot exploring the events of that. Maybe utilize Ouroboros to relive it.
You would have to wait at least three years for that.
It would be much better to have the relaunch and 2 teams, one on improving CoH 1 to the limits of the code, and one on CoH2. Which, ironically, was the state of play 3 years ago at Paragon Studios...until NCSoft shot the project down.
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That article was all sorts of awesome. Thanks for putting that out there.
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Really? We know this to be the real, honest-to-God, final words uttered in Paragon City?
Yes. (http://i.imgur.com/KMCTJ.jpg)
09:13:46 [Looking For Group] Lord Arkasas: <color #000000>Zero Hour -13 minutes.
09:13:54 [Looking For Group] He4dsh0t: <color #010101><3 Going out on the same 50 i rode in on... <3 standing in AP just like i started... poetic
09:13:55 [Looking For Group] Lord Arkasas: <color #000000>Or + or whatever.
09:13:55 [Looking For Group] Ray of Sunshine: <color #010101><bgcolor #ffac01>it's the afterlife
09:13:58 [Looking For Group] Keleana: <color #010101>OMG IT STILL WORKS
09:13:59 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>so we end the world looking at Atlas ass
09:14:04 [Looking For Group] Keleana: <color #010101>HELL YES
09:14:05 [Looking For Group] Booster Angel: <color #99ccff><bgcolor #3058ff>My client just crashed.
09:14:05 [Looking For Group] He4dsh0t: <color #010101>lmao
09:14:06 [Looking For Group] Johnny Joy Bringer: <color #010101>You have been the greatest people to have met and played with. Just beyond amazing.
09:14:13 [Looking For Group] Izushual: ASTILL ALIVE!!!
09:14:16 [Looking For Group] Med Nurse: <color #ffffff><bgcolor #7f0101>went out on this toon on the live severs, going to go out on same on here
09:14:16 [Looking For Group] Shadow Fire: <color #010101>I started in Galaxy...
09:14:16 [Looking For Group] Keleana: <color #010101>thank god!
09:14:17 [Looking For Group] Jimmy Amp: <color #0101ff><bgcolor #010101>they'll notice we're here eventually
09:14:17 [Looking For Group] Henry's Champion: <color #010101>GOODBYE D:
09:14:17 [Looking For Group] He4dsh0t: <color #010101>tap dat ass!!! before it's too late!
09:14:17 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>I know half my SG irl now
09:14:23 [Looking For Group] Mr Body: <color #9701f2><bgcolor #42ff01>yeah just for the hell of it, I figured I would try LOL
09:14:24 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>TDA still alive.
09:14:26 [Looking For Group] Kee Flora: <color #010101>why is beta still up? They just didnt get to it yet?
09:14:28 [Looking For Group] Booster Angel: <color #99ccff><bgcolor #3058ff>Kope someone else got a demo of our assault.
09:14:29 [Looking For Group] Shi-El: <color #010101>still here
09:14:30 [Looking For Group] Shadow Fire: <color #010101>Good bye all, its been a blast
09:14:32 [Looking For Group] Velocity-4: <color #010801><bgcolor #1a39a3>I wonder how long we have.
09:14:33 [Looking For Group] SAIYAN BENN: <color #010101>goodbye everyone its been a pleasure.
09:14:34 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>Maybe hitstreak pulled something
09:14:34 [Looking For Group] Kee Flora: <color #010101>all of live is down
09:14:35 [Looking For Group] Pogo - Bop: <color #010101>I wonder how long before they shut the beta down?
09:14:36 [Looking For Group] He4dsh0t: <color #010101>Iris, lmao that is what i am listening to now
09:14:41 [Looking For Group] Agent Chandra Storm: <color #010101>It's still here.
09:14:42 [Looking For Group] Shi-El: <color #010101>we have an hour
09:14:44 [Looking For Group] Keleana: <color #010101>Does anyone know if the beta has a shutdown date?
09:14:44 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>I'm listening to cape radio
09:14:51 [Looking For Group] He4dsh0t: <color #010101>probas a different server i give it 3 minutes
09:14:56 [Looking For Group] Mr Body: <color #9701f2><bgcolor #42ff01>how do you know we have 1 hr?
09:14:57 [Looking For Group] Lord Arkasas: <color #000000>Welcome.
09:15:01 [Looking For Group] Pogo - Bop: <color #010101>also I would suggest NOT allowing the ncsoft login to update
09:15:02 [Looking For Group] Booster Angel: <color #99ccff><bgcolor #3058ff>Someone reset the beta server, seems like
09:15:05 [Help] Liberty Eagle: My God... It's full of stars!
09:15:06 [Looking For Group] Pogo - Bop: <color #010101>just in case
09:15:06 [Help] Jennifer Walters: <color #ffffff><bgcolor #019d25>I AM ALIVE! Alas poor Freedom, I knew you well!
09:15:07 [Looking For Group] WolfWings: Borrowed time, we're past the deadline.
09:15:08 [Looking For Group] Dark Arts: <color #000000>maybe they forgot about beta?
09:15:15 [Looking For Group] Rose D. Wilson: <color #ffffff><bgcolor #8d0101>the sad fact is that if they took down the logon server, we are here but won't be able to get back on...
09:15:18 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>DOES ANYONE HAVE FRAPS
09:15:19 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>GET THIS
09:15:19 [Broadcast] Blasta: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #01acff>IM ALIVE!!!!
09:15:23 [Looking For Group] Ultimate immortal: <color #010101>My only regret is i never got to see the storm
09:15:24 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>THE LAST OF PRIMAL EARTH
09:15:28 [Looking For Group] Greigor: <color #010101>While there's still a chance, some villain go bait positron!
09:15:31 [Looking For Group] Velocity-4: <color #010801><bgcolor #1a39a3>Where is everyone?
09:15:35 [Looking For Group] Fionia PS: <color #010101>Yep
09:15:37 [Looking For Group] Doctor Leo: <color #010101>rikti war zone
09:15:38 [Broadcast] Blasta: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #01acff>IM ALIVE!!!!
09:15:39 [Looking For Group] He4dsh0t: <color #010101>A corporation does not forget about anything that costs money... it's a matter of time
09:15:39 [Looking For Group] Pine Kismet: RWZ
09:15:40 [Looking For Group] Greigor: <color #010101>RWZ
09:15:40 [Looking For Group] Booster Angel: <color #99ccff><bgcolor #3058ff>Dunno about you
09:15:40 [Looking For Group] Doctor Leo: <color #010101>there's hamidons all over the place
09:15:40 [Looking For Group] Maisnoncestbon: <color #000000>Godbye all! and thanks for the 8 last years!!!
09:15:45 [Looking For Group] Booster Angel: <color #99ccff><bgcolor #3058ff>My client suddenly crashed.
09:15:46 [Broadcast] Blasta: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #01acff>lol
09:15:48 [Looking For Group] Santa Laws: <color #000000>It has been my priveledge serving beside you.
09:15:56 [Looking For Group] Old Jack: my regrets are many
09:16:00 [Looking For Group] Kaiser Tarantula: <color #ff2626><bgcolor #181a1a>Booster, your CPU might be overheating again.
09:16:05 [Looking For Group] Hades' Angel: <color #000000>my last 1v1
09:16:05 [Looking For Group] Shi-El: <color #010101>beta beta beta beta
09:16:08 [Help] Jennifer Walters: <color #ffffff><bgcolor #019d25>We are the only ones left!!!
09:16:11 [Broadcast] Dublin Destroyer: <color #010101>f--- the NCSoftPopo, we've got beta
09:16:11 [Looking For Group] Lord Arkasas: <color #000000>We've been saying good by for so long, that even Positron thinks our minds are gone.
09:16:18 [Looking For Group] Sentinel Valor: <color #010101>I think somebody forgot something... heh
09:16:18 [Broadcast] Belle Barium: <color #010101><bgcolor #ffff7e>We're alive!
09:16:19 [Looking For Group] Booster Angel: <color #99ccff><bgcolor #3058ff>But why?
09:16:20 [Looking For Group] He4dsh0t: <color #010101>8 years of you guys <3 round of applause for making this what it is. and now... when we die... Let su rise from the ashes and take CoH with us!
09:16:24 [Looking For Group] Apollyion: <color #000000>haha, anyone else listening to the twitch tv?
09:16:25 [Looking For Group] Ray of Sunshine: <color #010101><bgcolor #ffac01>COH is dead...we are proud to announce COH Beta....
09:16:26 [Looking For Group] Kaiser Tarantula: <color #ff2626><bgcolor #181a1a>Positron has nothing to talk about.
09:16:29 [Looking For Group] Mrs.Whiteseeker: <color #010101><bgcolor #8801ff>wow...liberty just shut down. wife told me I could get on here...know how long this will be up?
09:16:30 [Looking For Group] Sentinel Valor: <color #010101>for now
09:16:30 [Broadcast] Sentinel of Twilight: <color #ffffff><bgcolor #350135>Luckily, I built for resistance to Korean Devs.
09:16:33 [Help] Tech Savy: anyone know why this didn't go down and when it will?
09:16:34 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>Anyone got the link to twitch TV?
09:16:35 [Looking For Group] WolfWings: I'll never forget this game, or all the wonderful folks I played with.
09:16:35 [Broadcast] MAIL ORDER BEES: <color #ffc501><bgcolor #010101>f--- THE PO-LICE
09:16:36 [Looking For Group] Mozilla3: <color #fefe34><bgcolor #ff0101>It's like the rapture happened and we were left behind
09:16:38 [Looking For Group] Embyron: <color #010101>I didn't know it had a thing
09:16:42 [Looking For Group] Dark Arts: <color #000000>COH Alpha dies, Beta Shall live on!!!
09:16:42 [Looking For Group] Kaiser Tarantula: <color #ff2626><bgcolor #181a1a>He went insane, attacked the vanguard base, and is STILL trying to futilely solo a Hamidon.
09:16:45 [Looking For Group] Booster Angel: <color #99ccff><bgcolor #3058ff>Final team?
09:16:50 [Looking For Group] WolfWings: Rosetta Kurosawa, Clockwork Lifter, if you know either they were me.
09:16:52 [Looking For Group] Ice002: left after the rapture. LOL forever
09:16:56 [Help] Jennifer Walters: <color #ffffff><bgcolor #019d25>Even the devs on Twitch.tv are confused..... shhhhh maybe NCSoft forgot.
09:17:00 [Looking For Group] Madam Justice: <color #01017f><bgcolor #686868>Who is doing a hami solo?
09:17:03 [Looking For Group] Covet: Yes let's do a final team
09:17:05 [Looking For Group] Currency: <color #ff9018><bgcolor #016101>Nah, the rapture happen'd and -this- is where we get to stay for eternity. :)
09:17:06 [Looking For Group] justaguy ver.3: That server list with grey bubbles is just sad
09:17:08 [Looking For Group] Lord Arkasas: <color #000000>Yeah, if Posi thinks your mind is gone, you are well and truly bonkers.
09:17:09 [Looking For Group] Shadow Fire: <color #010101>But Hamidon isn't winning either ;P
09:17:09 [Looking For Group] Anna Forrest: I'm sure up for a team for us left behind
09:17:10 [Looking For Group] Fist: <color #000000>I wonder how much longer we have here
09:17:13 [Looking For Group] He4dsh0t: <color #010101>we are at +17 min
09:17:13 [Looking For Group] Med Nurse: <color #ffffff><bgcolor #7f0101>i went out fighting and healing on the live servers, like to do the same here
09:17:16 [Looking For Group] Shi-El: <color #010101>the world ended and we are all sitting here on a floating piece of wood door.
09:17:16 [Looking For Group] Johnny Joy Bringer: <color #010101>Red or Blue Hami?
09:17:24 [Looking For Group] He4dsh0t: <color #010101>blue hami
09:17:28 [Looking For Group] Villassom: <color #010101>hot door to RWZ courtyard
09:17:30 [Looking For Group] Mr Body: <color #9701f2><bgcolor #42ff01>I wonder if they even realize?
09:17:32 [Looking For Group] Seriayin: <color #010101>Hahahah fight their futile attempts at closing these servers with our collective mindpowers!
09:17:33 [Looking For Group] Kaiser Tarantula: <color #ff2626><bgcolor #181a1a>NPC positron is trying to kill a Hamidon in RWZ. He can't do it, but it can't do more than 1 damage to him either.
09:17:33 [Looking For Group] Booster Angel: <color #99ccff><bgcolor #3058ff>Who starts the team?
09:17:35 [Looking For Group] Covet: Yes let's do a final team
09:17:36 [Looking For Group] Power Goody: <color #010101>Welcome to the AfterWorld
09:17:37 [Looking For Group] Johnny Joy Bringer: <color #010101>I'm heading over.
09:17:50 [Looking For Group] Lord Arkasas: <color #000000>Positron v. Hamidon, who wins? NCSoft!
09:17:50 [Looking For Group] Fionia PS: <color #010101>heal anyone ?
09:17:51 [Looking For Group] Greigor: <color #010101>We are in Valhalla now!
09:17:52 [Looking For Group] Velocity-4: <color #010801><bgcolor #1a39a3>What are people doing, fighting stuff in RWZ?
09:17:52 [Looking For Group] Malignant Tumor: <color #010101>50th bio tank seeks any teamEDIT: Removed system messages.
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Dang, my source didn't quote it right. I'll see if I can fix it.
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You. You do not apologize for this. This is beyond reproach, and I would be most personally offended if you demonstrated any regret at all for this article.
*gives Mikoroshi a big spidery hug*
Nonono...spidery hug isn't enough...; this calls for the ultimate expression of gratitude/joy from an otaku....
*takes a few steps back*
Flying Tackle Glomp!!!! ~POW~
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This article could very well be the 'one more solid shot' I called for the other day...; it essentially calls out NCSoft Korea, leaving them with no choice but to respond....
Well done, Miko, and-....oh dear...I think I broke Mikoroshi...anyone have a Wakie?
<_<
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Very well written. Between this and the Korean Times, we've landed some good, solid body blows the last few days. Huge kudos to those who have been involved.
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Dang, my source didn't quote it right. I'll see if I can fix it.
It may not be word for word but the spirit of the message was captured perfectly. If it's too late to edit, at least the correct point was made.
Oh and great article. Loved it :)
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Don't get me wrong--I think a brief relaunch would be great--but I think at this point it might be better to lean towards a CoH2--same classes and powers for now, new environment and graphics. Set it maybe ten years later in an expanded Paragon City, post-"Coming Storm" and have the main plot exploring the events of that. Maybe utilize Ouroboros to relive it.
It would be lovely to see that, but I believe such a dream is in the far future.
What I am interested in RIGHT NOW i.s the restoration of the game to playability, even with no new content or updates: a living archive, if you will. Many of us paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars toward our alts, and I believe it is only fair and right to somehow still be able to access that work. CoX2 can wait, I just want my beloved pixels back right here and now.
Baby steps.
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It would be lovely to see that, but I believe such a dream is in the far future.
What I am interested in RIGHT NOW i.s the restoration of the game to playability, even with no new content or updates: a living archive, if you will. Many of us paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars toward our alts, and I believe it is only fair and right to somehow still be able to access that work. CoX2 can wait, I just want my beloved pixels back right here and now.
Baby steps.
I may not have phrased my opinion right, so I'll try again. This ^ is my goal: Restoring CoH1 right the heck now! But I reeeeally would love to see the new publisher say, "We have restored CoH, brought it up to Issue 24, and we've got Top Men working on CoH2. Top. Men."
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Your article made my friend cry.
My friend NEVER cries .
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Your article made my friend cry.
My friend NEVER cries .
Pat them on the back, and say the following, softly:
There's no crying in baseball.
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Excellent writeup. I laughed. I shed a tear. I confused the heck out of 4 cats who continue to stare at me now, wondering what I'm gonna do next.
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Excellent writeup. I laughed. I shed a tear. I confused the heck out of 4 cats who continue to stare at me now, wondering what I'm gonna do next.
Oh, so you work for "Confuse-A-Cat", do you?
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Oh, so you work for "Confuse-A-Cat", do you?
Freelance.
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Awesome! :D
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I may not have phrased my opinion right, so I'll try again. This ^ is my goal: Restoring CoH1 right the heck now! But I reeeeally would love to see the new publisher say, "We have restored CoH, brought it up to Issue 24, and we've got Top Men working on CoH2. Top. Men."
See, unless they told me that Matt Miller and Floyd Grubb were those "Top. Men." I'd just be afraid that there's just Jack Emmet chained to a desk in the back of some warehouse somewhere having fits about Bosses being too easy and churning out like one progress .jpeg a year. ('Cause, y'know... Indiana Jones reference and all...)
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Trouble is, or from what I heard from the NC defenders over at the now-dead forums, was that for anyone in a public company to do less than aim for WoW-level subs, is to risk being accused of not looking out for the best interests of investors (who probably don't know jack about what goes on in the gaming world besides "games make money"). So, you either have to commit suicide while chasing after that mirage in the desert, or you get put through a court martial before a tribunal of shareholders.
You know, when I hear crap like that, it just makes me think of the end of Fight-Club.
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See, unless they told me that Matt Miller and Floyd Grubb were those "Top. Men." I'd just be afraid that there's just Jack Emmet chained to a desk in the back of some warehouse somewhere having fits about Bosses being too easy and churning out like one progress .jpeg a year. ('Cause, y'know... Indiana Jones reference and all...)
Matt and Grubb have Emmert chained up, forced to churn out PopCap-style time sinks.
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You know, when I hear crap like that, it just makes me think of the end of Fight-Club.
The book or the movie?
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The end of the film, with the towers of commerce crashing down.
Never read the book. Found the film to be over-hyped.
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The end of the film, with the towers of commerce crashing down.
Never read the book. Found the film to be over-hyped.
The book's good. It ends differently, though, is why I asked.
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Alright, I may have to read it then. Thanks! :)
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ebon 0_o
I don't know if you were there for the SG/Guild meeting the other day but JR actually broke his speech to say, "Whatever the hell you call him," because he got tired of going over my alt names. I busted up laughing IRL, really cracked me up. It's especially funny because I have so many different people calling me different things.
In DAoC people first knew me as "Cel", short for "Celatid". Eventually I leveled a new character with the name "Kizmeti", and people started calling me Kiz. Then I went to CoH, and I was known by Psychoti by the forum folks and Psy for short for the SGs I was a member of at the time. To shorten this a bit: Pirates of the Burning Sea: Adelante, WoW: Celatid, Planetside: Psy, and then eventually I came back to CoH again with friends that called me "Adelante" or "Ade" for short. I still play games daily with some of these friends that still call me Adelante. Then when I joined Justice Corps on Virtue I played the character Ebonstryke most often, so people started calling me "Ebon" for short. And now in GW2 I have people calling me "B-Cup" for Buttercupocalypse, "Ebon" for Ebonstryke if they remember that character, "Psy" if they remember, or "Adelante".
If you read all of that, I'm afraid you've wasted a portion of your life.
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I don't know if you were there for the SG/Guild meeting the other day but JR actually broke his speech to say, "Whatever the hell you call him," because he got tired of going over my alt names. I busted up laughing IRL, really cracked me up. It's especially funny because I have so many different people calling me different things.
In DAoC people first knew me as "Cel", short for "Celatid". Eventually I leveled a new character with the name "Kizmeti", and people started calling me Kiz. Then I went to CoH, and I was known by Psychoti by the forum folks and Psy for short for the SGs I was a member of at the time. To shorten this a bit: Pirates of the Burning Sea: Adelante, WoW: Celatid, Planetside: Psy, and then eventually I came back to CoH again with friends that called me "Adelante" or "Ade" for short. I still play games daily with some of these friends that still call me Adelante. Then when I joined Justice Corps on Virtue I played the character Ebonstryke most often, so people started calling me "Ebon" for short. And now in GW2 I have people calling me "B-Cup" for Buttercupocalypse, "Ebon" for Ebonstryke if they remember that character, "Psy" if they remember, or "Adelante".
If you read all of that, I'm afraid you've wasted a portion of your life.
I'll always call you Ebon. I never could remember Psy because it seemed silly, and now people'll think you're a Korean pop star.
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Oppan gangnam style!
(Sorry. I'll always have a sweetspot for this. I managed to find the video when it had less than a million views. I loved it then, and I'd be betraying myself if I said I didn't love it now.)
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Very nice article.
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Oppan gangnam style!
(Sorry. I'll always have a sweetspot for this. I managed to find the video when it had less than a million views. I loved it then, and I'd be betraying myself if I said I didn't love it now.)
And I still find it strangely ironic that the thing that I like the most right now (this) and the thing I dislike (NCsoft) are both of Korean origin.
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And, the NCSoft headquarters is actually in the city of Gangnam, SK. Let that one roll around in your head for a while. ;)
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I thought Gangnam was a district, a tiny one, not a city.
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Hunh. On Virtue the last message I saw before my final Mapserver'd (I got punted just before official shutdown time, but it let me back on for a few minutes afterwards for some reason) was someone quoting
"Do not go gentle into that good night, rage, rage against the dying of the light."
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Yeah Virtue died before the end. I went out on Freedom.
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AMAZING article! (Let us know when you finally get married! I always wanted a guy who'd play the game with me...)
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AMAZING article! (Let us know when you finally get married! I always wanted a guy who'd play the game with me...)
Sorry, ladies. I'm spoken for.
<adjusts bowtie>
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Wonderful, simply wonderful. Thanks for sharing. *still wiping away tears in vain*
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Hunh. On Virtue the last message I saw before my final Mapserver'd (I got punted just before official shutdown time, but it let me back on for a few minutes afterwards for some reason) was someone quoting
"Do not go gentle into that good night, rage, rage against the dying of the light."
It was someone named Wakinyan who said that. I have a screenshot of that exact moment that we were forcibly disconnected, with chat text showing; I woud post it here but Picturetrail will not allow it to be shown large enough for text to be read.
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Trouble is, or from what I heard from the NC defenders over at the now-dead forums, was that for anyone in a public company to do less than aim for WoW-level subs, is to risk being accused of not looking out for the best interests of investors (who probably don't know jack about what goes on in the gaming world besides "games make money"). So, you either have to commit suicide while chasing after that mirage in the desert, or you get put through a court martial before a tribunal of shareholders.
First, I dont miss those people. At all. They did much to sour the last moments of the game by incessant negativity. There were about four of them, and I hope karma follows them where ever they might end up.
Second, I hardly viewed any of them as real-world business titans who could be taken seriously. The thing about business is, it often consists of nonsensical moves by corporations such as lopping off profitable arms because a second arm is costing them money. This makes no sense to anyone sane, but corporations do things like that all the time! And they do even worse, perhaps because in the US profit is privatized, but losses are picked up by taxpayers. There is little incentive to behave in a logical, profitable fashion businesswise, because the "little people," the "99%" or the "muppets" will pick up the tab.
None of those people on the forums had a clue what they were talking about. I'm just glad they are gone.
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The main problem with corporate decision-making:
(https://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg194/Crusader_Rabbit/meetingsdemotivator.jpg)
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So very, very true.