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Title: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Mister Bison on December 10, 2012, 08:48:03 PM
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: The Fifth Horseman on December 10, 2012, 09:02:24 PM
Not deleting it would make sense if they were planning to sell off the game (or at least considering the possibility).
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Mister Bison on December 10, 2012, 09:06:28 PM
Not deleting it would make sense if they were planning to sell off the game (or at least considering the possibility).
Or, it's just bureaucracy for you.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Colette on December 10, 2012, 11:14:18 PM
"...we don't know yet what will become of the City of Heroes servers...."

Laugh with me! MWAHAAHAHAAhaaaa...!
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Blue Pulsar on December 10, 2012, 11:31:29 PM
Laugh with me! MWAHAAHAHAAhaaaa...!
MUA HAH HAH HAH HAAAaaahhh...

Ahem...
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Septipheran on December 10, 2012, 11:38:12 PM
"...we don't know yet what will become of the City of Heroes servers...."

Laugh with me! MWAHAAHAHAAhaaaa...!

Hopefully that doesn't mean, "We can't decide if we want to use them for Guild Wars 2 or sell them yet."
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: V-Mink on December 10, 2012, 11:40:11 PM
"...we don't know yet what will become of the City of Heroes servers...."

Laugh with me! MWAHAAHAHAAhaaaa...!
Very interesting.  I wonder what this means.  It could just be bureaucracy.  But if not....

And VvG is still my favoritest mad scientist.

Quote
"For a brief moment I thought I was done with science, but this lights the three-foot-tall Bunsen burner flame of madness! It heats the crucible of science within me, and the noxious vapors that issue forth are nothing less than the poison fumes of MAD SCIENCE!

"Laugh with me!

"AAAH - HAH - HAH - HAH - AHAH- HAAAAH!"

Vernon von Grun. Best. Mad Scientist. Ever.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: saipaman on December 11, 2012, 12:33:43 AM
My impression was that the City of Heroes server(s) were leased by NCSoft.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: eabrace on December 11, 2012, 12:58:51 AM
"...we don't know yet what will become of the City of Heroes servers...."

Laugh with me! MWAHAAHAHAAhaaaa...!
Probably more accurate to say "we don't know yet what will become of the City of Heroes server databases" since the servers were virtualized for shared use.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Rigo42 on December 11, 2012, 01:06:37 AM
Yeah,

Generally when they are done with servers, they get put to use somewhere else

Hopefully in this case, reopened.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: corvus1970 on December 11, 2012, 01:34:32 AM
Not deleting it would make sense if they were planning to sell off the game (or at least considering the possibility).
Or, it's just bureaucracy for you.

Yup. It could be either/or at this point.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: dwturducken on December 11, 2012, 03:41:28 AM
MUA HAH HAH HAH HAAAaaahhh...

Ahem...

Blue Beetle?
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: JetFlash on December 11, 2012, 04:10:28 AM
Yeah,

Generally when they are done with servers, they get put to use somewhere else

Hopefully in this case, reopened.

Virtualized servers can be run on any hardware, provided you've got enough horsepower on the VM host.  Reviving the servers would be a simple matter of taking the VMs (Virtual Machines) and running them on a new host(s) somewhere.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Perfidus on December 11, 2012, 04:33:44 AM
Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Rigo42 on December 11, 2012, 05:51:16 AM
Virtualized servers can be run on any hardware, provided you've got enough horsepower on the VM host.  Reviving the servers would be a simple matter of taking the VMs (Virtual Machines) and running them on a new host(s) somewhere.
Ah yes, Cloud FTW
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Surelle on December 11, 2012, 06:12:08 AM
At first this got me all excited, but then I thought,

"Well, just because a French GM doesn't know what will become of the CoH servers doesn't mean NCSoft Korea doesn't already know...."   :'(   But let's hope I'm wrong. 

And more importantly, let's hope SOMEONE is getting/has gotten enough financial backing together to renegotiate with NCSoft to buy our baby back!  While all the random shots in the dark are firing at unsuspecting targets here and time is ticking by (hasn't it been 2 weeks for Disney already?), has anyone at all who has contact info for Brian Clayton/Melissa Bianco actually talked to them lately about that Korea Times article and the possibility of re-offering for CoH?
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Colette on December 11, 2012, 06:16:44 AM
"Blue Beetle?"

Nope! That would be "BWAH HAH HAAWWWHHH!" It's right here on page three of the evil laughs textbook. That's what you get for sleeping in class.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Victoria Victrix on December 11, 2012, 06:32:00 AM
At first this got me all excited, but then I thought,

"Well, just because a French GM doesn't know what will become of the CoH servers doesn't mean NCSoft Korea doesn't already know...."   :'(   But let's hope I'm wrong. 

And more importantly, let's hope SOMEONE is getting/has gotten enough financial backing together to renegotiate with NCSoft to buy our baby back!  While all the random shots in the dark are firing at unsuspecting targets here and time is ticking by (hasn't it been 2 weeks for Disney already?), has anyone at all who has contact info for Brian Clayton/Melissa Bianco actually talked to them lately about that Korea Times article and the possibility of re-offering for CoH?

I've been giving it a bit of time to percolate (and finishing the edits on Melissa's book so she owes me  8) ) before I put that to her.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Mister Bison on December 11, 2012, 07:33:57 AM
"Well, just because a French GM doesn't know what will become of the CoH servers doesn't mean NCSoft Korea doesn't already know...."   :'(   But let's hope I'm wrong. 
That's what I thought too, especially since, well, I have to admit it, french ones didn't seem to be the most informed. That's why I would like somebody from the US to ask it again: "what happened to my account information".
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Surelle on December 11, 2012, 03:16:03 PM
That's what I thought too, especially since, well, I have to admit it, french ones didn't seem to be the most informed. That's why I would like somebody from the US to ask it again: "what happened to my account information".

It would also be cool if we could get somebody in to buy the IP BEFORE NCSoft decides to wipe all said accounts off those rented-but-no-longer-needed-since-two-weeks-ago servers.   Timing is everything in a sale.  And if nobody does have the backing to try and buy the IP (again), then it isn't going to hurt us to know that, too.  Sometimes the truth hurts, but I'd rather face it and plan our next moves around it, whatever they may be.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: dwturducken on December 11, 2012, 03:23:15 PM
"Blue Beetle?"

Nope! That would be "BWAH HAH HAAWWWHHH!" It's right here on page three of the evil laughs textbook. That's what you get for sleeping in class.

Ironically, I was reading a chemistry book during that class. :)

If the servers were virtuallized (or, really, regardless of that), they most likely were making regular image backups to a networked storage drive. That sort of drive tends to fill up quickly, but, if it's not getting those images, anymore, the likelihood of the images being deleted for space goes down considerably. The people in charge of managing those sorts of things tend to be overworked, so it would be very easy for the images to be saved more from absent-mindedness than altruism or any kind of emotional or business attachment to them.
Title: Re: Account information still existing, server fate undecided
Post by: Felderburg on December 11, 2012, 03:55:59 PM
While this is very interesting, it seems to me that the part here:

You must know that we can't erase a game account.

The reason is that the registering of an access code on an account is permanent.

...relates more to a master NCSoft account - i.e., you can't delete the CoH registration from it, and every time you log in (if you log in) to your plaync.com it will have your CoH account info.