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Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« on: July 16, 2014, 02:17:45 AM »
According to 'E' from the movie, The Incredible, "No Capes!"
So what do you think?

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 04:24:11 AM »
I love capes, but with the exception of matadors, medieval lords/ladies, and Zorro, they are a bit silly.

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 05:23:55 AM »
It very much depends on the character for me.  A lot of mine didn't have capes... but for some characters, it really did fit the aesthetic I was going for.  For other characters, I used wings or a jacket to fill a similar aesthetic niche.

But it really did depend on the backstory, etc.

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2014, 10:45:41 AM »
Very few of my toons had capes, but then again very few of my toons wore "spandex".

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2014, 02:11:04 AM »
Capes couldn't be used with wings... That put them directly into "right out" territory for me.  :P
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 02:43:26 AM »
Foppish nonsense.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2014, 11:53:40 AM »
Definitely not a must, but I can see them working with more conventional hero types as well as with magic-themed toons.

One of mine did use a cape - Silver Spartan, see avatar - but I figure it must have been retractable or else he had a huge amount of spares. Powered armor with jet-propulsion flight and capes DO NOT MIX (and when CoH relaunches I'll probably prep some comedy macros related to extinguishing burning capes after landing...). :p
The rest?
Booster Angel's "costume" was a high-tech suit of "soft" powered armor designed for military use. Sticking a cape on that just felt silly.
Ghostslinger was a magic-based version of a character originally from a cyberpunk setting. No cape, but a tranchcoat filled a similar purpose there.
Finally, Engine Jean was designed with a very cyberpunk aesthetic in mind. The Cybertech Spine was more in character for her than a cape.

So, out of four:
1 Cape
1 Trenchcoat
2 Incompatible with capes
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2014, 07:17:09 PM »
I liked a lot of the flowing clothing options other than capes... Bolero dress, Trenchcoats, Gunslinger belt (female), a few other options. You can only really have one graphic item flapping around behind the character, or you see some major clipping issues. So for a lot of characters, that meant that capes were out. For others, backpacks or wings blocked the slot. For some, it just didn't fit (a stone character).

So, basically, a lot of characters really didn't have a realistic option to add a cape to the costume. From those that did, I would usually add it... more costume items, as long as there is an overriding design goal, usually allows for a better-looking design. As long as the design goal is not simplicity, of course.

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2014, 07:32:25 PM »
If i had to chose between capes and wings, capes hands down. The movement of capes were far superior to wings, unless you were flying or jumping.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2014, 11:06:24 PM »
Acceptable, and even stylish flair, for ranged characters, but I tend to see capes and melee as incompatible - too much entanglement potential. In fact, I don't know how Batman keeps from getting wrapped up in that cloak of his, since it wraps all the way around the front, instead of just hanging down the back, like capes do. A cape/cloak is impractical for a brawler. (I spent my whole CoX time wanting cloaks added.)
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2014, 01:35:15 AM »
I can't let a firefly have the last word.
Capes are essential for the classic Superhero look.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2014, 02:33:27 AM »
Dollar Bill would not approve...

I only used capes as a formal dress uniform.  I couldn't stand them in combat (especially Melee).
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2014, 07:49:25 PM »
Capes had to fit the motif of the toon, not the other way around.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2014, 10:58:26 PM »
Capes couldn't be used with wings... That put them directly into "right out" territory for me.  :P

But capes *could also* be wings... see Batman.

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2014, 02:31:52 AM »
To misquote Police Chief Wiggum from the Simpson, "Throw his cape less butt in jail."
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2014, 08:52:15 AM »
I hayed the cape clipping errors where your leg would pop through your cape.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2014, 05:17:33 PM »
Or... was it your cape popped through your leg?

And so is the quandry.

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2014, 09:52:57 PM »
I can't remember but I know I shortened Jenn's cape because I was tired of that bug! XD In the end, it wasn't a bad decision because it looked much better that way! :)
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2014, 05:18:57 PM »
My main character Sugoi started out at a fairly young age, and began her career with a tiger-striped spandex leotard style outfit.  (Her daughter, who continued the family career as Sugoi-chan wore the same style outfit.) 

As Sugoi gained levels (and other costume options became available) she got a more traditional Uruseian Battle Bikini with armor pieces and a short cape. 

Quite a few people I played with thanked me for the addition of the cape, because they tended to get mezmerized by the sight of someone's rear view, and then get killed by the mobs due to slow reaction times. So in my experience, capes are a good thing for your teammates benefit.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2014, 06:22:10 PM »
My main character Sugoi started out at a fairly young age, and began her career with a tiger-striped spandex leotard style outfit.  (Her daughter, who continued the family career as Sugoi-chan wore the same style outfit.) 

As Sugoi gained levels (and other costume options became available) she got a more traditional Uruseian Battle Bikini with armor pieces and a short cape. 

Quite a few people I played with thanked me for the addition of the cape, because they tended to get mezmerized by the sight of someone's rear view, and then get killed by the mobs due to slow reaction times. So in my experience, capes are a good thing for your teammates benefit.

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2014, 02:42:57 AM »
You mean that staring at someone's assets was not part of the game?
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2014, 03:24:18 AM »
Is there a flirt emote?
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2014, 02:23:37 AM »
Is there a flirt emote?
I didn't know that.

I don't think there was one, I just knew a few poses that looked like I was flirting and I'd say the things to go with it... ;) XDDDD
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2014, 02:19:14 AM »
So it depends is the answer?
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2014, 05:35:29 AM »
Thanks for your input, we really closed the loop on capes.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2015, 07:42:32 AM »
The desicision was that capes are a good thing and are required of every hero.
(there are always exceptions)
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2015, 04:20:33 AM »
The correct answer to the question is

This is beautiful.
 It's absolutely beautiful.
 Well, uh...
 we seem to have everything...
 but, you know...
 it's not much different...
 from a fallout shelter.
 No, Calvin.
 This is different.
 Believe me.
 This is great...

name that movie.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2015, 03:15:45 AM »
A League of Their Own.
Penny Marshall was talking to that one guy, named Calvin.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2015, 03:33:32 PM »
The correct answer to the question is

This is beautiful.
 It's absolutely beautiful.
 Well, uh...
 we seem to have everything...
 but, you know...
 it's not much different...
 from a fallout shelter.
 No, Calvin.
 This is different.
 Believe me.
 This is great...

name that movie.

Blast from the past?  Only thing I can think of with a fallout shelter and the character (Walken) named Calvin.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2015, 10:47:50 PM »
I know, the Calvin and Hobbes movie.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2015, 06:34:45 AM »
Bull Durham?
Top Gun?
The Princess Bride?
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2015, 01:05:35 AM »
Kind of off topic (at this point in the thread at least  ;D) But capes have historically been used as weapons. They'd weight the corners and use them to attack their opponents legs and throw them off balance so I could see non powered heroes putting that to great use. Plus in most superhero settings there is all sorts of weird shit, lazer capes. Lazer capes could exist. How cool would a lazer cape be? Or a magic cape? They ain't gonna' be shoving you into a jet turbine. Their Lazer. Or magic.

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2015, 02:20:49 AM »
So ...

You got ta wear a cape, I knew it.

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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2015, 11:17:22 PM »
So, we all agree, "E" was off her rocker.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2015, 02:32:46 AM »
Capes!  It's what's for dinner.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2015, 05:18:45 AM »
I'm beginning to think that maybe capes aren't right for everybody.
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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2015, 01:45:16 PM »
As my character, Tiger White put the other day, "I wear a cape to stop creepos staring at my butt."

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« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2015, 01:20:06 AM »
Capes, anti-creepo since 1937!
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« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2015, 04:50:07 PM »
I love capes, but with the exception of matadors, medieval lords/ladies, and Zorro, they are a bit silly.

Speaking of Zorro, he's going to bring capes back to men's fashion: http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-details/2015/09/antonio-banderas-fashion-school-central-saint-martins.html
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2015, 04:25:53 PM »
So I think we decided that every character MUST have a cape?
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2015, 07:33:00 AM »
Capes are gresat, but no everybody needs a cape.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2016, 04:54:41 AM »
I liked the old cape mission.
I really enjoyed the villian cape mission.
The new one was too cave-ish.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2016, 04:24:54 AM »
The old hero cape mission was far too much zoning, but the ending was cool.
The new cape mission has you battle the Rikti too much.

The old villain cape mission was cool, you wants a cape, steal one from a cry-baby, sissy hero.

That kind of reminds me of the early VEAT missions.  You want to be one of the 'Chosen Ones'?  Add your name to list.
That is sooooo villainesque.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2016, 05:08:34 AM »
I like the idea of "earning" stuff in-game.  Granted, that does cut down on the micro-transactions a bit.
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Re: Capes: A Superhero Must or Foppish Non-sense
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2017, 06:34:25 AM »
So the answer is ...
get a cape already and stop your belly-aching about it.
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