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Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« on: December 03, 2014, 03:31:56 AM »

It's going along fairly well...

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Not sure where they are heading with the FitzSimmons stuff.

And I really hope ...
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Mac isn't dead
because he's one of my favorite new characters.



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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 04:00:20 AM »

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Not sure where they are heading with the FitzSimmons stuff.

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Well some of my slash-happy friends insist that she is a lebsian and they, in their ship-happy glasses, saw all sorts of subtext between her and skye... and frankly, I am beginning to get the impression they are not entirely wrong?
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2015, 05:20:29 PM »
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Well some of my slash-happy friends insist that she is a lebsian and they, in their ship-happy glasses, saw all sorts of subtext between her and skye... and frankly, I am beginning to get the impression they are not entirely wrong?

Having just binge-watched the whole thing, I got the impression that Simmons wasn't even saying she wasn't interested in Fitz, it was just that she had about five seconds of "Oh! Hmm...", then nine days of "Oh crap he's going to die", then months of "He's so different now and I don't know how to help him", and she never really had a chance to process what the heck she felt about it all. And now Fitz wants to run away to the garage to hide. She might actually be up for a relationship, but how do you figure it out in the middle of all that?

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2015, 03:12:21 AM »

SHIELD returns!

Things I can comment without feeling the need to be spoilerish: Skye's father is a jerk. They are definitely pushing the whole "Inhumans as Mutants" thing.

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Fitz protecting Skye from Simmons is a nice touch.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2015, 03:12:11 PM »
Fantastic episode.  The only disappointing thing for me is that Raina is no longer absolutely gorgeous.  It's good to have some more super powered characters but extra eye candy doesn't hurt either.  I suppose she might learn to transform.

As for Bobbi and Mac
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I'm thinking S.W.O.R.D.  It would be a good way to integrate them into the MCU without needing to go full Skrull/Kree invasion.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2015, 09:20:50 PM »
I've heard some theories that Bobbi and Mack

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are actually agents for a rival faction of SHIELD that doesn't really love Fury appointing Coulson to the post, and wants to set themselves up as the "real" SHIELD. Which kind of makes sense--I mean, Fury was in charge of a lot of stuff that went south, and someone making a clean break with that style of leadership might want to go elsewhere instead of following the guy who's Fury's handpicked choice and who was giving a lot of cryptic and/or insane orders the last few months that got half a dozen or so agents killed. I mean, sure, we all know what Coulson was up to, but to someone outside the base, it might look like he's a nutbag.

Also? Kyle MacLachlan is soooooooo good in this. "It's a lifelong dream. It's life long." "Then don't." SO GOOD.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2015, 04:25:18 PM »
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Fitz protecting Skye from Simmons is a nice touch.

I like that a lot, but her reaction to all this seemed out of place.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2015, 05:01:40 PM »
Skye's father is a jerk.[/spoiler]

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He's actually not enough of a jerk. Comics Hyde tortured Jarvis almost to death (and the Black Knight, but he probably had it coming).

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2015, 05:51:29 AM »
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Fitz protecting Skye from Simmons is a nice touch.

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And wouldn't be an awful twist to have Fitz as a Hydra mole.  Feinting his condition, "protecting" Daisy until he could hand her over to Hydra.  Not actually expecting that to happen.  Maybe.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2015, 04:55:27 PM »
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And wouldn't be an awful twist to have Fitz as a Hydra mole.  Feinting his condition, "protecting" Daisy until he could hand her over to Hydra.  Not actually expecting that to happen.  Maybe.

At this point:

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I don't expect any further big revelations about "so-and-so is a HYDRA mole", simply because they'd have to explain why this person was a HYDRA mole in SHIELD's last secret base reporting directly to the new Director of SHIELD...and hasn't just ordered an airstrike or something. HYDRA has such a huge manpower advantage right now that if they knew where Coulson's team was, they would just straight up overwhelm them with soldiers. There's no advantage they could gain from keeping it a secret and gathering intelligence that could possibly be any greater than the advantage gained from capturing/killing everyone in the base and taking all their stuff. So anyone they've invited into the base either isn't HYDRA, or is holding the Idiot Ball on a level that would absolutely wreck the show. And I feel like the writers know that, so we won't see any surprise "Hail HYDRA" revelations like we got last season. I'm not saying I don't expect any more traitors...just no more HYDRA traitors.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2015, 09:07:44 PM »
I checked on Monday night's assertion that there was a "big" moon on July 2, 1988, in case they're lying to Skye, and I am impressed. According to two different sources, the moon was just three days past full, so it would still have been mostly lit, and it was at perigee (closest approach to Earth). So it would, in fact, have looked bigger than usual. Someone really did their homework.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2015, 06:42:58 AM »
Anyone else notice the giant Chekhov's Gun with the carrier?  Mockingbird was sent to scuttle it to keep whatever it's carrying from falling into Hydra's hands.

Could whatever it is be the reason for all the anti-alien/power fear from the Real SHIELD Agents of the Atlantic?
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2015, 12:59:41 PM »
I hereby dub Raina the Precognitive Porcupine.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2015, 11:26:25 PM »
I checked on Monday night's assertion that there was a "big" moon on July 2, 1988, in case they're lying to Skye, and I am impressed. According to two different sources, the moon was just three days past full, so it would still have been mostly lit, and it was at perigee (closest approach to Earth). So it would, in fact, have looked bigger than usual. Someone really did their homework.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2015, 02:17:44 AM »
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I wonder if the plan was to have Skye's mom be alive all long.


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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2015, 02:50:21 AM »
Watching tonight's episode.  Had to Google "Echidna." :)
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2015, 02:56:57 AM »
Watching tonight's episode.  Had to Google "Echidna." :)

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2015, 11:10:23 AM »
Heh. I know the animal.  I was unfamiliar with the reference in Marvel comics.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2015, 05:54:52 PM »
Kinda late to the discussion here, but anyone catch the reference Simmons made to the obscure character Hellcow back when she was undercover? It was pretty subtle, but I felt the need to Google it and sure enough there was a vampire cow named Hellcow in the comics. I've caught a couple references like that but I wonder how many I've missed.

On other news, Bobby and Hunter are getting a spin-off series. Curious to see where it goes :D

I've been loving the Inhumans stuff so far. This seems like a good way to bring in the mutants without incurring the wrath of Fox. Also there is an Inhumans movie scheduled for 2019, and we will theoretically be able to skip all the origin story because Agents of Shield will have had enough chance to cover that for YEARS by that point. Pretty cool.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2015, 09:45:36 PM »
A bit odd that there's this whole compound of inhumans led by skye's mom who seem to have no connection to any of the inhumans from the comics other than having access to terrigen mists and knowing the history. maybe it's like rotc to the great refuge's army.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2015, 02:06:37 AM »
A bit odd that there's this whole compound of inhumans led by skye's mom who seem to have no connection to any of the inhumans from the comics other than having access to terrigen mists and knowing the history. maybe it's like rotc to the great refuge's army.

Well I can see a few reasons why they'd have little to do with the In humans from the comics, story reasons and not just the we don't want to do the special FX and costumes for those characters on a TV show budget or we haven't cast Black Bolt or Medusa for the movie yet sort of reasons :)

Part I think is that almost all of the compound, with a couple exceptions, they're all potentials. They haven't been exposed to the mists yet.  So that puts them on slightly lower social level.  While exposed to some of the Inhumane history, they haven't been told of everything, which is why they're in a remote compound instead of Attilan itself.  They are being educated and evaluated on if they can allowed to join the Inhuman city proper.

And I think more importantly, most of the comics center around the royal family.  They don't just mingle with anyone, inhuman or not.  The royal family just does not mix with the common folk. I think it would at least be neat to have Karnac show up to represent the "Elders" that were mentioned.  As he would be the most non effects required character from the comics. 
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2015, 03:34:37 AM »
I think it would at least be neat to have Karnac show up to represent the "Elders" that were mentioned.  As he would be the most non effects required character from the comics.

You might be underestimating the budget costs of an errol flynn moustache.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2015, 03:19:03 PM »
A bit odd that there's this whole compound of inhumans led by skye's mom who seem to have no connection to any of the inhumans from the comics other than having access to terrigen mists and knowing the history. maybe it's like rotc to the great refuge's army.

Actually I read a fairly recent Inhumans comic where the terrigen mists had recently been released on the world as a giant cloud, and they talked about how even before this there were multiple groups of Inhumans, not just the ones that followed Blackbolt. I am far from an Inhumans expert, I think that is the only Inhumans specific comic I have ever read because I generally found them to be boring versions of mutants in the past, but now I am ready to give them a shot.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2015, 08:03:40 PM »
Actually I read a fairly recent Inhumans comic where the terrigen mists had recently been released on the world as a giant cloud, and they talked about how even before this there were multiple groups of Inhumans, not just the ones that followed Blackbolt. I am far from an Inhumans expert, I think that is the only Inhumans specific comic I have ever read because I generally found them to be boring versions of mutants in the past, but now I am ready to give them a shot.

Yeah that storyline was what really pushed the Inhumans up as a larger part of the Marvel universe.  Basically there are potentials for lack of a better word all over the place, and Inhuman is becoming the word people shout out insteadof mutant when people go lynching now.  The terrigen bombs created tons of new super powered people, bothgood and bad (the new Ms Marvel is an Inhuman)
But yeah, it really does seem that Marvel has decided to use them as the replacement for mutants in the last couple years
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2015, 08:34:23 PM »
Years ago didn't the Inhumans have something to do with Marvel's Eternals comic book?


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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2015, 09:43:54 PM »
Probably. The Eternals and the Deviants were prehuman experiments of the Celestials. The Inhumans were early human experiments of the Cree. I'm sure they crossed paths.


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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2015, 09:56:19 PM »
As I recall, the Kree came across some of the Eternals in Earth's solar system back in prehistory-- (I want to say they were the ones who wound up sponsoring the first Marvel Boy)-- and after defeating them, the Kree dissected the bodies and found them worthy of imitation. (The Eternals had not yet become immortal or obtained their full power yet).

So, basically the Inhumans were a bargain basement imitation of the Eternals made by the Kree rather than the Celestials.


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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2015, 06:58:12 PM »
But yeah, it really does seem that Marvel has decided to use them as the replacement for mutants in the last couple years

I'm sure this is exactly what is happening, Marvel has been pretty spiteful against Fox lately and it would not surprise me to see mutants featured less and less in the comics, especially after what happened with Fantastic Four.

For those of you that do not know, the way the contracts for the characters Fox has movie rights to works is that if Fox does not make movies for those characters every so many years the rights revert back to Marvel. Daredevil reverted (and Marvel made him an awesome show), Blade did, and Fantastic Four was juuuust about to when Fox announced the new movie. As a result Marvel cancelled the Fantastic Four comics all together.

NOW we are coming up on a massive reboot of all Marvel comic universes. My theory is that some characters that were mutants will be retconned into being Inhumans, or maybe people that thought they were mutants will find they were Inhumans all along. I doubt this will give Marvel much of a leg to stand on to fight for those characters back, but I still suspect they will try.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2015, 04:49:51 AM »
But yeah, it really does seem that Marvel has decided to use them as the replacement for mutants in the last couple years

Until Disney buys Fox to get mutantkind back.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2015, 04:58:52 PM »
Until Disney buys Fox to get mutantkind back.

At this point it feels like that is what will have to happen, though who knows what it would take. Also, is it worth it? Yeah, mutants, but most of Fox's other properties are pretty worthless.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2015, 02:12:29 AM »
Spoiler for Hidden:
"I thought her gift was spinning really fast to collect gold rings."
Comedy gold!  ;D
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2015, 03:10:45 AM »
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"I thought her gift was spinning really fast to collect gold rings."
Comedy gold!  ;D

That was a good one.

In the preview it said "Inhumans" - is this the first time they are called this officially in the series or did I miss it in some other episode?

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2015, 06:36:54 AM »
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Rayna predicting ultron was a nice touch. If they spoiler the movie in the next 3 episodes i'm gonna rage though.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2015, 09:32:46 AM »
I like how Winter Soldier led into this series and now the series is leading the Age of Ultron.
Marvel is really good at these cross promotions.
DC cant do it as every TV property and movie franchise have nothing to do with each other.


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« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2015, 05:03:07 PM »
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"I thought her gift was spinning really fast to collect gold rings."
Comedy gold!  ;D

"Spoiler alert"

Another good one.  Hot pocket line was good too.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2015, 05:53:41 PM »
In the preview it said "Inhumans" - is this the first time they are called this officially in the series or did I miss it in some other episode?

I've been watching the episodes on Amazon and several of the descriptions have had the word "Inhumans" in it. Also I think the official Marvel Youtube, which does frequent clips from each episode to generate interest, has mentioned the word a few times.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2015, 02:31:31 AM »
"Spoiler alert"

Another good one.  Hot pocket line was good too.
There were a whole lot of good lines in this one.  I haven't laughed that much in an Agents of SHIELD episode in a while.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2015, 04:25:31 PM »
Hellcow

Definitely thought you meant this: http://www.thetick.ws/livevillians.html

I've been loving the Inhumans stuff so far. This seems like a good way to bring in the mutants without incurring the wrath of Fox. Also there is an Inhumans movie scheduled for 2019, and we will theoretically be able to skip all the origin story because Agents of Shield will have had enough chance to cover that for YEARS by that point. Pretty cool.

Except that the movie audience and the TV audience are not the same. So there will be at least some sort of exposition.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2015, 04:52:37 PM »
There was a single-shot scene where Skye storms the medical bay where Lincoln is held.  As far as I can tell, it was actually the actor doing the scene, and not a stunt double.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3W_zZifedw

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2015, 12:08:35 AM »
There was a single-shot scene where Skye storms the medical bay where Lincoln is held.  As far as I can tell, it was actually the actor doing the scene, and not a stunt double.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3W_zZifedw

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I love how Skye is suddenly the Punisher in this episode and takes out all those Hydra agents in like 30 seconds and only used her power that one time.


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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2015, 02:48:32 AM »
Well she did spend the time between Season 1 and 2 and a fair chunk of Season 2 training with May so yes, she's also a badass fighter.

As for using her powers Vs a gun.  Well the two times she used them in the episode she had time to prepare.  Also we don't know if she's slotted for endurance and recharge yet.  Those guys came in quickly, in small groups, from several directions.  If fighting with a gun is now muscle memory it may simply be easier rather than using the new thing. 

Plus she couldn't help showing off to Ward, as a warning.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2015, 09:06:23 AM »
So if they are supposed to be Inhumans - would that make Gordon Lockjaw since that was his power?


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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2015, 02:10:53 AM »
Hmm. That was a bit surprising. Part of it at least.


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Skye's mom has always felt kind of shifty to me, but I was surprised they played Gonzales making a good faith effort for peaceful cooperation.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2015, 03:00:28 AM »
Hmm. That was a bit surprising. Part of it at least.


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Skye's mom has always felt kind of shifty to me, but I was surprised they played Gonzales making a good faith effort for peaceful cooperation.

Yeah. I was expecting quite the opposite. What a sneaky b***h.

I hope this gets picked up for a 3rd season. I hate when shows have great season endings and then get cancelled.
Next week's looks like a doozy.


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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2015, 07:37:43 PM »
I hope this gets picked up for a 3rd season. I hate when shows have great season endings and then get cancelled.

Even if SHIELD gets cancelled, there will likely be closure for fans, since it's part of a grander universe. Unlike other shows, that leave the entire thing hanging.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2015, 08:01:12 PM »
Also keep in mind, Disney owns the network AoS is aired on. This only gets cancelled if Disney wants it to, and even then there are no messy rights issues like many cancelled shows have to deal with, if they wanted to move it to Netflix or anything in the future they don't have to worry about it.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2015, 12:24:15 AM »
Its too bad Coulson didn't go. Certainly the crystal would have worked on him since he has the alien DNA or blood or whatever in him.
Would be interesting to see what power he would get.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2015, 01:23:26 AM »
Hmm. That was a bit surprising. Part of it at least.


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Skye's mom has always felt kind of shifty to me, but I was surprised they played Gonzales making a good faith effort for peaceful cooperation.

In fairness,

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it was the kind of "good faith" effort that relied pretty hard on the Inhumans voluntarily giving SHIELD all sorts of information about themselves and agreeing to be policed without any mention of anything in return. Not that I think it would have helped if he'd been more conciliatory--I think Jiayang had made up her mind--but it was still a B- effort at best.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #48 on: May 08, 2015, 04:02:21 AM »
Agents of shield and agent carter renewed for next season according to ign.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #49 on: May 08, 2015, 12:05:58 PM »
Agents of shield and agent carter renewed for next season according to ign.

Cool. And then there is that other spin off with Mockingbird and the other guy.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #50 on: May 08, 2015, 04:17:52 PM »
Cool. And then there is that other spin off with Mockingbird and the other guy.
Apparently that was given a pass in favour of Agent Carter.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #51 on: May 08, 2015, 06:30:02 PM »
Apparently that was given a pass in favour of Agent Carter.

Yeah, I saw a couple articles on this after the confirmation of renewing AoS and Carter.

I'm torn on it. Part of me wanted to see the show because then I get more Marvel stuff per week, but I also don't want to loose such good characters on AoS. Bobbi and Hunter were much needed additions when the Fitz-Simmons team was broken up (seems like now they are getting past things, but hard to say).

I think they could have carried a show just fine though, and I'm going to have hopes that if the people behind AoS really want this done they will have a better proposal next year for it, plus have a whole extra year to plan it out.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2015, 08:14:39 PM »
Apparently that was given a pass in favour of Agent Carter.

Works for me. I thought Carter was well done and maybe this next series they can move past the Captain America thing.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2015, 01:07:34 AM »
Yes, Agent Carter was different and original; HAMMER, or Mockingbird, or whatever, would just have been a retread of AoS, or at least something very similar.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2015, 02:25:19 AM »
Adrianne Palicki has the worst luck for TV shows...  :-[

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« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2015, 05:06:59 AM »
Adrianne Palicki has the worst luck for TV shows...  :-[

It's almost like she's a blood relative of Summer Glau, or something. :(

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2015, 06:03:22 AM »
I hope as long as we have Marvel movies, we have AoS to reflect what is going on in Marvel-verse outside the world of gods battling amongst themselves.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2015, 03:27:08 PM »
Adrianne Palicki has the worst luck for TV shows...  :-[

Well to be honest although she is very attractive her acting skills are meh at the best.  I couldn't see watching a show where she was a primary character rather than just part of the ensemble.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2015, 05:52:59 AM »
Yes, my whole response could be a spoiler.

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We all assume that Afterlife aka the Inhuman Day Spa (thanks io9) was the result of Jiaying's encounter with Hydra.  That they simply want to be left alone in pease.

But what if Jiaying decided on a more offensive course of action.  She mentored Gordon before she was taken (flashback to young Gordon, no scars on Jiaying).  What if she's been forming a team of combat ready Inhumans.  Ones that could blend into normal society.  Even Gordon could pass with some eye wear but we haven't seen anyone similar to Raina there.  They were all taken somewhere else, disposed of or held for a later time.

What if Bahrain was a field test and not the story she told Skye?  Gordon fetched Cal because he was to "noisy" as they were nowhere near ready to move yet.  He's always been in on it but his mission was to find Skye.

Also Jiaying decides who goes though the mist.  Is she picking people who aligned with her beliefs or could be persuaded after their transition?  But now they are found by SHIELD I suspect Jiaying is going to set off a small mist bomb to convert as many there as possible, using the battle that Raina saw, and will now occur, as motivation to agree with Jiaying that it's time to fight back.  The survivors vanishing into society at large.  Seeding angry enhanced people at large, who need to be found as next season's mission leading up to the MCU Civil War.

Also I expect Lance to save Bobby's bacon.  Ward will escape and Agent 33 will be put down.

Now the only people we care about on the scene are May, Skye and Simmons.  Now wouldn't it be funny if Simmons becomes an Inhuman considering her feelings on the subject.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2015, 11:26:46 AM »
Yes, my whole response could be a spoiler.

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We all assume that Afterlife aka the Inhuman Day Spa (thanks io9) was the result of Jiaying's encounter with Hydra.  That they simply want to be left alone in pease.

But what if Jiaying decided on a more offensive course of action.  She mentored Gordon before she was taken (flashback to young Gordon, no scars on Jiaying).  What if she's been forming a team of combat ready Inhumans.  Ones that could blend into normal society.  Even Gordon could pass with some eye wear but we haven't seen anyone similar to Raina there.  They were all taken somewhere else, disposed of or held for a later time.

What if Bahrain was a field test and not the story she told Skye?  Gordon fetched Cal because he was to "noisy" as they were nowhere near ready to move yet.  He's always been in on it but his mission was to find Skye.

Also Jiaying decides who goes though the mist.  Is she picking people who aligned with her beliefs or could be persuaded after their transition?  But now they are found by SHIELD I suspect Jiaying is going to set off a small mist bomb to convert as many there as possible, using the battle that Raina saw, and will now occur, as motivation to agree with Jiaying that it's time to fight back.  The survivors vanishing into society at large.  Seeding angry enhanced people at large, who need to be found as next season's mission leading up to the MCU Civil War.

Also I expect Lance to save Bobby's bacon.  Ward will escape and Agent 33 will be put down.

Now the only people we care about on the scene are May, Skye and Simmons.  Now wouldn't it be funny if Simmons becomes an Inhuman considering her feelings on the subject.

So she was doing what Adama accused Coulson of doing....

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2015, 01:02:02 AM »
So if they are supposed to be Inhumans - would that make Gordon Lockjaw since that was his power?

Personally I call him "not Nightcrawler"

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #61 on: May 12, 2015, 02:37:56 AM »
Personally I call him "not Nightcrawler"

And then od course since they cant use the names we have Gordon instead of Gorgon.


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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #62 on: May 12, 2015, 04:28:28 AM »
And then od course since they cant use the names we have Gordon instead of Gorgon.

But Gordon has absolutely nothing to do with Gorgon.  One is a blind teleporter, the other is a super strong satyr.  Marvel isn't fudging their names, they're completely different characters. 
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #63 on: May 12, 2015, 09:21:35 AM »
But Gordon has absolutely nothing to do with Gorgon.  One is a blind teleporter, the other is a super strong satyr.  Marvel isn't fudging their names, they're completely different characters.

All I was saying is the names are similar.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #64 on: May 12, 2015, 09:45:08 PM »
Does it strike anyone else as odd that Skye's mother could heal from evisceration and having her organs in jars for an unspecified amount of time but can't heal the facial scars? I have to chalk it up to Joss Whedon's odd tendency to disfigure his pet actresses, which i previously thought only applied to Amy Acker but since she got through her guest appearance unscathed it has since moved on.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2015, 03:03:58 AM »
Wow, didn't see that coming for
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« Reply #66 on: May 13, 2015, 03:30:34 AM »
Yeah.  Blink and you missed it, too.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #67 on: May 13, 2015, 04:53:24 AM »
I thought the way May tricked Ward was priceless, though I was hoping they would get to fight again.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #68 on: May 14, 2015, 05:33:45 PM »
Wow, didn't see that coming for
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Gemma

Yeah, I can't wait to see what that turns out to be.

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I read a theory someone posted somewhere that it is a symbiote ala Venom, possibly even Venom since the object's liquid form did resemble it. While I highly doubt this, it did make an interesting read. Since Sony and Marvel are working together now they may allow use of the Venom character as well. In recent years in the comics the Venom symbiote has been on Flash Thompson (ex bully to Peter Parker), who goes by Agent Venom. He has been part of the Guardians of the Galaxy lately, and they have revealed a bit about the always mysterious symbiote, specifically that it is from a race called the Klyntar, and also that most races see the Klyntar as gross monsters. It is not unreasonable for the Kree to use this as a weapon.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #69 on: May 14, 2015, 05:52:12 PM »
Yeah, I can't wait to see what that turns out to be.

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I read a theory someone posted somewhere that it is a symbiote ala Venom, possibly even Venom since the object's liquid form did resemble it. While I highly doubt this, it did make an interesting read. Since Sony and Marvel are working together now they may allow use of the Venom character as well. In recent years in the comics the Venom symbiote has been on Flash Thompson (ex bully to Peter Parker), who goes by Agent Venom. He has been part of the Guardians of the Galaxy lately, and they have revealed a bit about the always mysterious symbiote, specifically that it is from a race called the Klyntar, and also that most races see the Klyntar as gross monsters. It is not unreasonable for the Kree to use this as a weapon.

Well the Inhumans said this is dangerous to them. Gemma clearly feels the Inhumans are a threat. I am wondering if it will give her some powers to go after them.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #70 on: May 14, 2015, 05:54:45 PM »
I didn't get why the crystal was dangerous to Coulson. I thought, like Skye he would have gotten a power as he has Kree DNA in his body, just like Skye.

I'm guessing he will get a new arm somehow - either grown or a mechanical one.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #71 on: May 14, 2015, 07:03:18 PM »
Remember the crystals that they had are laced with the metal from the Diviners (they melted down 4 to grow more crystals).  Coulson wasn't a chosen one so it's as if you picked up a Diviner.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #72 on: May 14, 2015, 09:06:02 PM »
Remember the crystals that they had are laced with the metal from the Diviners (they melted down 4 to grow more crystals).  Coulson wasn't a chosen one so it's as if you picked up a Diviner.

I thought people with alien DNA could use the Diviners - like Skye and the girl that turned into Sonic.
I guess I missed the part of what makes a person chosen.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #73 on: May 14, 2015, 10:58:52 PM »
Alien DNA given as medication isn't the same as DNA manipulated by aliens thousands of years ago. Skye just happened to have both.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #74 on: May 15, 2015, 06:38:11 AM »
Same reason Skye didn't get the side effect that Coulson got.  She's got the DNA markers to allow her to become Inhuman, Coulson doesn't so ...

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So does Coulson get a regen hand via Extremis (Iron Man 3) or a Cyborg replacement like Mike?  If he goes Cybernetic I'll bet at least one joke about Coulson running shield with an iron (or vibranium) fist.

Also this means AoS Season 2 is part of the Phase 2 MCU because every movie in Phase 2 someone lost a hand or arm, even if it was temporary.  An inside joke about Empire Strikes Back.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2015, 05:27:06 PM »
Same reason Skye didn't get the side effect that Coulson got.  She's got the DNA markers to allow her to become Inhuman, Coulson doesn't

I am guessing it is the same reason Skye never started carving. While part of me likes the subtlety of the explanations behind some of the plot points of the show, leaving it up to the viewers to put some pieces together, I hope that choosing to not have Coulson or Gemma do a brief aside of "Oh, this is why this..." does not bite them in the foot with the audience they are drawing of people who dont follow comics and look for these things.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #76 on: May 16, 2015, 06:29:31 AM »
I am guessing it is the same reason Skye never started carving. While part of me likes the subtlety of the explanations behind some of the plot points of the show, leaving it up to the viewers to put some pieces together, I hope that choosing to not have Coulson or Gemma do a brief aside of "Oh, this is why this..." does not bite them in the foot with the audience they are drawing of people who don't follow comics and look for these things.
The movies are really tuned to be general audience friendly (sometimes to their detriment, like ironman 3) AoS is definitely more tuned fr the hard core comic fan. and that's fine.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #77 on: May 16, 2015, 04:15:47 PM »
I seem to remember that there was some anger amongst the Inhumans that Skye was not "chosen", and that she cheated to get her exposure to the mist.  Like she cut to the front of the line or something.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD Season 2
« Reply #78 on: June 15, 2015, 02:56:34 AM »
Season 2 recently popped up on Netflix.  I just finished watching it and wow... Kudos for introducing Mr. Hyde as such a monster, then turning him into a sympathetic character.  But a hefty fist shake and a "you bastards!" for that cliffhanger finale.
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