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Character Optimization - Night Widow
« on: July 02, 2015, 08:27:33 PM »
UPDATED (1st Update) on 07/03/2015


Design Notes:
And now for something completely different.  After all of my control-focused builds, here's an actual melee-focused build.  As per usual, Hasten was avoided as I just don't like the look of it.

Please let me know what you think.


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Night Widow X: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Night Widow Training
Secondary Power Set: Widow Teamwork
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Teleportation

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Swipe
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (42) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
  • (3) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
  • (5) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 2: Strike
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (7) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (50) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 4: Fly
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 6: Recall Friend
  • (A) Interrupt Reduction IO
Level 8: Tactical Training: Maneuvers
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
  • (9) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (9) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (37) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
Level 10: Indomitable Will
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance
  • (11) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
Level 12: Lunge
  • (A) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage
  • (13) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Damage/Recharge
  • (13) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (36) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Recharge/Chance for -Dmg and Terrorize
Level 14: Spin
  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (15) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (15) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (34) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
Level 16: Smoke Grenade
  • (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff
  • (17) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge
  • (17) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (33) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance
Level 18: Slash
  • (A) Hecatomb - Damage
  • (19) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
  • (19) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (31) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (33) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (48) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 20: Mask Presence
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
  • (21) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (21) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (25) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
Level 22: Foresight
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
  • (23) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 24: Mind Link
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge
  • (25) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
  • (36) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
Level 26: Eviscerate
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (27) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (29) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (45) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 28: Placate
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (29) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 30: Build Up
  • (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
  • (39) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (39) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
  • (46) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 32: Tactical Training: Leadership
  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
  • (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
  • (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
  • (46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
Level 35: Tactical Training: Vengeance
  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
  • (36) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 38: Combat Training: Offensive
  • (A) Accuracy IO
Level 41: Tactical Training: Assault
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 44: Mental Training
  • (A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
Level 47: Teleport
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
Level 49: Long Range Teleport
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Damage Increase IO
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge
  • (A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
  • (7) Celerity - +Stealth
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
  • (45) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
  • (3) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
  • (5) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
  • (11) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
  • (43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance
Level 50: Cryonic Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Cognitive Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Arachnos Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Clarion Core Epiphany
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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« Last Edit: July 04, 2015, 12:46:52 AM by JanessaVR »

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Re: Character Optimization - Night Widow
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2015, 03:49:08 AM »
Just glanced at it but offhand I'd say substitute poison dart for strike (-regen ftw) and follow up or build up for something. The former if you want it to play more like a clawls scrapper, the latter more like a stalker which looks to be the direction you're going with placate and smoke grenade. I'll look in depth later on.

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Re: Character Optimization - Night Widow
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2015, 04:18:13 AM »
Just glanced at it but offhand I'd say substitute poison dart for strike (-regen ftw) and follow up or build up for something. The former if you want it to play more like a claws scrapper, the latter more like a stalker which looks to be the direction you're going with placate and smoke grenade. I'll look in depth later on.
I thought this one might interest you, from your remarks on my Fortunata build.  Yes, I envisioned this one to be like a Claws Stalker.

And yes, if this is to be Stalker-like, I probably should find a way to take Build Up, probably around the time I gain Mask Presence.  Hmmm...

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Re: Character Optimization - Night Widow
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2015, 10:06:57 AM »
Easy enough to slide build up with 2 recharge in where you have elude (not sure why you'd need elude if you're already softcapped other than maybe incarnate stuff, but there should be enough barriers around on an inc trial to cover the softcap difference). Use the other two slots from elude to add the final 2 gaussians to tactical training leadership for the 2.5% defense and your ranged/aoe softcaps. Then replace the LotG def/rech in mind link with the 5th 5% recharge one that you had in elude (no stat loss there) and Bob's your uncle. I'd still switch poison dart with 5 decimation in for strike though if it were me. Oh and you can take all three of those pricey membranes out of mind link and still have it perma and your softcaps. That'd give you slots for e.g. a miracle proc in health and an extra damage proc in swipe and spin.

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Night Widow X: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Night Widow Training
Secondary Power Set: Widow Teamwork
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Teleportation

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), T'Death-Dam%(42)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def(3), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Rchg+(5)
Level 2: Poison Dart -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(37), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 4: Fly -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 6: Recall Friend -- IntRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9), LkGmblr-Rchg+(9), HO:Cyto(37)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(11)
Level 12: Lunge -- SDoArach-Acc/Dmg(A), SDoArach-Dmg/Rchg(13), SDoArach-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SDoArach-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SDoArach-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SDoArach-Rchg/DmgFear%(48)
Level 14: Spin -- Armgdn-Dmg(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(15), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(34), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Erad-%Dam(46)
Level 16: Smoke Grenade -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/Rchg(17), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(17), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(33)
Level 18: Slash -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(19), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(31), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Hectmb-Dam%(48)
Level 20: Mask Presence -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), LkGmblr-Rchg+(21), HO:Cyto(25)
Level 22: Foresight -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def(23), LkGmblr-Def(23), LkGmblr-Rchg+(45)
Level 24: Mind Link -- GftotA-Def/Rchg(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(25), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31)
Level 26: Eviscerate -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Oblit-%Dam(45)
Level 28: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Combat Training: Offensive -- Acc-I(A)
Level 32: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(33), GSFC-Build%(39), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(39), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(43)
Level 35: Tactical Training: Vengeance -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(36), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(50), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(50)
Level 38: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 44: Mental Training -- Run-I(A), Flight-I(50)
Level 47: Teleport -- Range-I(A)
Level 49: Long Range Teleport -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- HO:Micro(A), Clrty-Stlth(7)
Level 1: Sprint -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 2: Rest -- HO:Golgi(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(45), Mrcl-Rcvry+(46)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(5), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(11), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(43), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(43), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(46)
Level 50: Cryonic Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Cognitive Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Arachnos Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Clarion Core Epiphany
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon
Level 0: Marshal
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
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Re: Character Optimization - Night Widow
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2015, 10:15:04 AM »
Here's my absurdly expensive one that I want just for Silver Mantis soloing/merit whoaring if you're interested. And yes, I do see the irony that the most expensive merit-wise toon would be the one I want to make for merit whoaring. Though unless the market is generously seeded if/when the game returns I expect it won't be that much worse than any other IO build  ;)

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Chaka Kahn: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Fortunata Training
Secondary Power Set: Fortunata Teamwork
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(7), Hectmb-Dam%(21), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(36), T'Death-Dam%(43)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(11)
Level 2: Poison Dart -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(11), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Apoc-Dam%(36)
Level 4: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(45)
Level 6: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(7), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 8: Follow Up -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 12: Spin -- Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(13), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Armgdn-Dam%(15), Erad-%Dam(46)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 16: Dart Burst -- Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(19), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Ragnrk-Knock%(34), Posi-Dam%(42)
Level 18: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- Winter-ResSlow(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 22: Foresight -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(23)
Level 24: Mind Link -- GftotA-Def/Rchg(A), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(25), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 26: Lunge -- DoArach-Acc/Dmg(A), DoArach-Dmg/Rchg(27), DoArach-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), DoArach-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), DoArach-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), T'Death-Dam%(40)
Level 28: Mask Presence -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A)
Level 30: Aim -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(33), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(33), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(50), AdjTgt-ToHit(50)
Level 32: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(37), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Confuse -- CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(39), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(39), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(39), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(40), CoPers-Conf%(40)
Level 41: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(46), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(46), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(48), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(48), GSFC-Build%(48)
Level 44: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Tactical Training: Vengeance -- GftotA-Run+(A)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(19), Mrcl-Heal(31), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(37), RgnTis-Regen+(42)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(5), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(31), P'Shift-End%(42)
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Re: Character Optimization - Night Widow
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2015, 12:47:34 AM »
Ok, have a look now.

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Re: Character Optimization - Night Widow
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2015, 01:31:18 AM »
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Re: Character Optimization - Night Widow
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2015, 02:36:55 AM »
 You do realize that in Issue 24 you would have had the ability to turn off the Hasten effects ??

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2015, 02:46:06 AM »
You do realize that in Issue 24 you would have had the ability to turn off the Hasten effects ??
Yes, I'm aware that they were planning on offering the option for a “FX minimal” Hasten in Issue 24, but since I24 was never released, and, even with the (hopeful) I23 snapshot if the deal goes through, I24 will never be released, hence it doesn’t really matter what was in I24 if it will never go live.  So all of my prospective builds must take into account an I23 environment.

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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2015, 04:59:52 AM »
Except that the server image talk was tacked on by ncsoft to the attempt to acquire the license, so if we get the former it probably means they got the latter and that an i24 enabled atlas park revival would eventually emerge. But of course that'd be a good excuse to rebuild everything in mids anyway :D

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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2015, 05:41:55 AM »
Except that the server image talk was tacked on by ncsoft to the attempt to acquire the license, so if we get the former it probably means they got the latter and that an i24 enabled atlas park revival would eventually emerge. But of course that'd be a good excuse to rebuild everything in mids anyway :D
I don't see how we could do that without the source code, which, last I heard, NCSoft said was off the table in the negotiations.

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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2015, 06:19:41 AM »
I only know what I've read in the new efforts and the other big thread. The techie types seem pretty confident that Irish Girl can do it. My tech knowledge would be pretty much confined to renaming the folder the program was in to i24.

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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2015, 06:31:57 AM »
I only know what I've read in the new efforts and the other big thread. The techie types seem pretty confident that Irish Girl can do it. My tech knowledge would be pretty much confined to renaming the folder the program was in to i24.
Ah, you're talking about the CoH Atlas Park Revival re-creation project, using a different game engine and coded from scratch.  As for the game as-was, we'd need the source code for that, and it's too bad we won't be getting it - we have enough people on-board (Arcana, Codewalker, Leandro) who would be able to finish/debug I24, which would be awesome if we could get it.