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Re: Alien life theories
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2016, 09:10:28 PM »
You know what?  Time to go on the offensive, rather than just react on defense.  While the technical details of this stuff can get very complicated, the actual base principles are not that difficult to understand.  Let's just head this off at the pass.  This is how semiconductors work in general, and how solar cells work in particular, and in very particular how our understanding of them is rooted in a lot of other science, from physics to chemistry to quantum mechanics.

Silicon is what chemistry calls a "group 4" element (technically, these days it is called group 14, but it was group IV when I learned it, and semiconductor jockeys still call these materials group 4 for reasons that will become evident in a bit).  It includes elements like carbon, germanium, and lead.  These elements all share certain similarities when it comes to chemical properties because all of them have the same configuration of their outer electrons.  Every atom has a nucleus with some protons and neutrons at the center and electrons orbiting around it.  The electrons form shells with some closer and some farther away, like satellites orbiting the Earth.  However, quantum mechanics limits which orbits electrons can be in: they can't just arbitrarily orbit the electron.  These quantum mechanics-restricted orbits are called "orbitals" or "shells" and we can calculate what they are for every atom.

The group IV elements all have four electrons in their outermost electron shells, and those shells all have the same basic shape and properties, except for their size (distance from the nucleus).  Because how two atoms interact is mostly a function of those outer electrons - because those are the ones that can bump into each other and interact - that's why they tend to be similar chemically.  Similar, but not identical.

This outer shell of electrons can theoretically hold up to eight electrons: four pairs.  There's actually a quantum mechanical reason for this.  There is a principle called the Pauli exclusion principle which states that no two fermions can have exactly the same quantum state.  It is sort of the quantum mechanical equivalent to the "two things can't occupy the same space at the same time" rule.  Electrons are fermions, and when an electron is in an orbital of an atom all of its quantum numbers are defined except for one: spin.  Electrons can have one of two spins, which classically can be thought of as "clockwise" and "counterclockwise" although in quantum mechanical terms it isn't really (we usually call them "spin up" and "spin down").  So if no two electrons can have the same quantum numbers, once an electron enters an orbital shell only one more electron can do so: an electron with opposite spin.  After that, you can't put any more electrons in there because then you'd have two electrons trying to "occupy" the same quantum state.

The silicon atom would like to fill up that outer orbital - to be more precise, full orbitals have a lower energy state.  Things tend to want to fall into low energy states because once there, it takes extra energy to kick them back out of it.  So these silicon atoms would love to grab four more electrons and fill them.  But in a crystal of silicon it can't do that, because it is surrounded by other silicon atoms that all want to do the same thing, just as hard.  However, in a crystal of pure silicon something interesting happens.  Two neighboring silicon atoms each have one unpaired electron in an orbit facing the other, and each wants to steal the other's electron to fill its orbital.  What happens is the two electrons pair up because that's the lowest energy state for *them*, and then start orbiting *both* silicon atoms.  Heisenberg uncertainty allows them to basically "smear" themselves out throughout both orbits, and while each silicon atom is not happy to have to share, they both find it is better than not having anything at all.  In physical terms, the energy state of a pair of electrons orbiting both is lower than each silicon atom having only one electron in that orbit.  It is a lower energy state, so the electrons "fall" into that state, forming what chemistry calls a "covalent bond."

These bonds are pretty strong.  That's what gives silicon crystals their strength: they are actually very strong.  Silica glass' strength comes from that silicon bond, and the fact that with the ability to make four such bonds in all directions you end up with an extremely strong structure.  But because they are that strong, pure silicon is extremely non-conductive.  If you think about it, if electric current is about moving electrons, and all the electrons are tied up in these strong covalent bonds, none of them will move when you apply a voltage, unless the voltage is really really high.  Basically, pure silicon is an insulator.

But what if I mess up that happy structure?  Suppose I were to remove one silicon atom and replace it with something like phosphorus.  Phosphorus has five electrons in its outer shells, not four.  When you stick phosphorus in there, the silicon still tries to pair up with phosphorus and make four covalent bonds, but then there's one electron left over.  That electron *cannot* occupy the orbital it was in originally because Pauli exclusion kicks it out.  Basically, its four friends get room mates for the four bedrooms, and now it has to sleep on the couch.  That means it gets kicked farther away from the phosphorus nucleus, and the bottom line is that it is now much less strongly connected to that phosphorus.  And moreover, if it moves in any direction it will run into silicon atoms that also have full orbitals.  No room at the inn, and it can't find a home.  Although this leaves the phosphorus atom electrically charged (it has one less negative charged electron) that atom is surrounded by trillions of electrons that dilute that charge.  The electron doesn't "see" it very well, and is free to roam around.  Now, if you apply a voltage, that electron can move with the voltage and provide a current.  I've just magically turned silicon from an insulator into a conductor.  That's what semiconductors basically are: materials we can adjust the conductivity of by changing their structure.

Had I stuck a boron atom in there instead, boron has three electrons in its outer shell instead of five.  What happens then?  Well, silicon still tries to make four covalent bonds but it can only make three.  Boron then runs out of electrons to pair up.  One of the silicon atoms ends up with a hanging electron unable to form a covalent bond.  Here's the tricky part.  What happens if I apply a voltage now?  Well, I said that in pure silicon nothing happens because all those electrons are held in place by strong bonds, and the voltage can't move them so no current.  You might think the same thing happens.  Ah, but the situation is different: we have a hanging electron trying to pull an electron from one of its neighbors because it is just hanging there.  It cannot, because it is basically pulling with the same force its neighbors are using to hold its electrons.  That tug of war is a draw, so that silicon atom gets stuck with an unpaired electron.

Imagine a row of chairs each with someone sitting in it.  Now imagine each person is holding a ball in each of their hands, except for one guy in the middle.  He has one ball in his left hand and nothing in his right hand.  He wants to have a ball in his right hand so he tries to take the ball away from the guy sitting to his right.  He can't because they are equally strong: he tries to pull the ball away, the other guy tugs back, and the net result is that nothing happens.  Now imagine that there are strings tied to each ball, and we can tug on them.  It we start tugging on those strings and pulling all of the balls to the left, what happens is that the guy who was trying to yank the ball to the left from the guy on the right now wins: we helped him steal that ball.  Now the guy to the right has only one ball, so *he* tries to steal one from the guy to *his* right.  And because we are helping him by pulling to the left, he also wins.  Notice that the *balls* move to the left, but it kind of looks like the "empty hand" is moving to the right.

That's what happens to silicon with that boron atom in there.  Under voltage the electrons start moving in the direction of the force, while the "hole" moves in the opposite direction.  If we think of the "hole" as a positively charged thing in a sea of negatively charged things, then it is as if a positively charged current is moving in the opposite direction that (negatively charged) electrons would move.  It isn't: it is a bit of an illusion.  But the descriptions both describe the same situation: negative charge flows in one direction, while the absence of negative charge (positive charge) flows in the opposite direction.

And that's how we make silicon semiconductors.  We take silicon, which is an insulator, and we dope it with other atoms.  This creates either a set of loosely bound electrons which can move much more easily, or a set of loosely bound "holes" which can move much more easily, and this allows us to control silicon's conductivity.  We can engineer silicon to do what we want it to do electrically.  And based on the laws of chemistry and physics, we can calculate exactly how silicon's behavior will change depending on what we do to it.  These calculations work, which tells us that our understanding of how the pieces work is probably correct.  Almost certainly correct, given the fact that in effect all of the billions of transistors mankind has created over the years test and retest those calculations by functioning as designed trillions of times a day.

How do we get from here to solar cells?  One bite sized step at a time.  Next time we should get from how semiconductors work to what happens when we start sticking them together.  To me, that is one of the most interesting things in all of physics, and the modern world is essentially built upon what happens in that specific situation.

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Re: Alien life theories
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2016, 09:42:34 PM »
I didn't realize marijuana could be smoked via internet connection.

This thread is good for that at least.

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Re: Alien life theories
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2016, 10:22:33 PM »
Okay, so we have silicon, and we're sticking things like boron and phosphorus in it to make it have some extra electrons floating around - we call this "n-type" semiconductor - or some extra "holes" (aka deficit of extra electrons floating around) - what we call "p-type" semiconductor material.  Time for a magic trick.  Suppose we stick an n-type semiconductor and a p-type semiconductor together.  Or we just make them side by side in the same block of silicon.  What happens?

Well, remember that on the n-side we have all the silicon atoms happy with covalent bonds in all directions, but we have some extra electrons floating around.  And on the p-side we have a lot of unhappy silicon atoms that don't have enough electrons to make four covalent bonds in all cases: we have "holes" on that side.  Guess what?  The electrons that got "kicked to the couch" on the n-side drift to the p-side, where those silicon atoms grab them and use them to fill their orbitals.  And the silicon atoms grab them with enough force that once there they can't easily get back out.  More and more electrons drift across the neutral zone and get captured by silicon atoms that got stuck without enough partners.

As this happens, the n-side gets "depleted" of free electrons, while the p-side gets "depleted" of holes.  The free electrons fill the holes.  But as they do, they leave behind more and more positively charged phosphorus atoms, each of which was more than happy to kick the electron out.  And the p-side gets more and more negatively charged silicon atoms that grabbed one more electron than they ordinarily would have.   The p side now has more electrons than originally and becomes negatively charged on average, and the n side becomes positively charged.  That creates an electric field.  We've known since the 1700s that electric fields form between positive and negative charges, and it is no different inside of a semiconductor.  For the most part, most of the silicon structure on both sides of the junction are electrically neutral.  But right at the junction there's a significant charge difference and that creates a strong electric field.  This electric field tends to push electrons and holes away from the depletion zone, so at some point the electric field that forms as the depletion zone forms stops any more electrons from jumping across and filling holes.  The depletion zone stops growing.

Okay, so what?  Well, that depletion zone is a problem.  We made silicon into a conductor by doping it with phosphorus which created a situation where there were extra mobile electrons floating around (we call this the conduction band of electrons), or by doping it with boron which created a situation where there were extra mobile "holes" in the structure.  In the depletion zone, all the free electrons paired up with all of the free holes and got stuck there.  Now there's nothing to move around.  In effect, the depletion zone created an insulator in the middle of our two (semi-)conductors.  We're back to having no electricity flow any more.  But there's a catch.  The depletion zone was created because those mobile electrons dropped into a lower energy state by pairing them up with the holes, and formed an electric field in the middle which then stopped the depletion zone from growing any bigger.  What would happen if we were to apply an electric field in the same direction as the depletion zone field.  Basically, the depletion zone would get bigger.  The bigger the depletion zone, the bigger the field and vice versa.  Since the depletion zone is basically an insulator, as it grows the junction would oppose the flow of current more and more.  It would fight against any attempt to flow current in that direction.  But if we try to send current in the opposite direction, by applying a field that is in the opposite direction of the depletion zone field, the depletion zone field would get smaller.  The depletion zone would shrink, and the insulating layer would also shrink, which would make it easier for current to flow.  The higher the voltage, the smaller the depletion zone and the less resistance to current.  In this direction, current flow rises rapidly with voltage.

In other words, the n-p junction is a kind of one-way valve for current.  Current can flow easily in one direction, but can't flow every easily in the other.  We call these things diodes.  And diodes are one of the fundamental building blocks of the computer age.  For example, lets say I stick two of them together, to form something that looks like n-p-n.  Two diodes end to end.  That looks worthless: the n-p part can only pass current in one direction but the p-n part can only do so in the opposite direction.  Isn't that just an insulator?  If I try to shoot electrons from one end to the other all by itself, pretty much.  But that sandwich has two depletion zones.  If I try to push electrons across the sandwich, one of them will get bigger and the other one smaller, because they are pointing in opposite directions.  If I *then* apply an electric field in the middle, I can make that bigger one also bigger or smaller.  In other words, if I try to constantly push current across this sandwich, an additional voltage I apply to the white part of the oreo cookie will determine if that current gets across or not.  And the main current can be very large while the middle voltage can be relatively small: it only has to overcome the depletion zone.

We call these things transistors, and they can function as both switches and as amplifiers.  When you can make electrically controlled switches and electrically controlled amplifiers, you can make computers by doing nothing more than printing different impurities onto a chunk of silicon glass.

Chemistry tells us how covariant bonds work and how valence electrons behave.  Quantum mechanics gives a more accurate description of how these things work in a bulk solid.  Physics tells us how electrons and holes combine, and how electric fields are formed by separation of charges.    We use all of these scientific principles to engineer a set of materials that simply do not exist in nature normally, because they require exceptional purity of silicon combined with very specifically chosen impurities placed in just the right places.  Using these principles, we create wires, amplifiers, diodes, switches, transistors, flip-flops, NAND gates, adders, multipliers, clocks, memories, counters, decoders, multiplexers, CPUs, GPUs, and the Galaxy S5.  From fundamental physics and chemistry, modified by quantum mechanics and materials science, we take chemical elements, mix them together in just the right ways, apply a voltage, and make computing engines.

One more stop to go before we arrive at the PV system on my roof.

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Re: Alien life theories
« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2016, 11:00:24 PM »
First a minor correction.  I said earlier that a hole was just the absence of an electron free to move about.  I'm getting old, and device physics was like thirty years ago, give me a break.  Technically, the holes aren't in the conduction layer, they are in the valence layer.  Electrons jump up from the valence layer to the conduction layer.  Not important, but just a technical detail that slipped my mind.

So how do we get to solar cells?  Well, fundamentally speaking, solar cells are just depletion zones, just fabricated with very specific specifications.  Recall that depletion zones are areas in between n-p junctions where all the free mobile electrons jumped the fence and combined with the holes on the other side.  At some point an electric field is built up that stops more electrons from entering the DMZ.  What happens if a photon of light hits an atom inside the depletion zone?

Well, if it has the right amount of energy, it can dislodge an electron, knock it out of the valence bond it is in, and free it temporarily from the grip of those silicon orbitals.  If that happens, the electric field in the depletion zone will yank it across the zone, dumping it on the far side.  It is going to want to get back because now that side of the junction is negatively charged.  But it cannot go back where it came from, because the depletion zone electric field keeps kicking it back.  But if there is another path it can take, like say if there is an electric circuit from one end of the junction all the way around to the other side, then the electron will take that path, loop around the circuit, and end up back on the other side.  In doing so, a current will flow in that circuit.  Light, striking the zone and knocking free an electron, creates electric current as the electron tries to get back home.  The depletion zone prevents it from taking the short path, forcing it to take the long path.

To make a really good solar cell you want it to be as efficient as possible in doing this.  One way is to "tune" the depletion zone so that the amount of energy necessary to cause an electron to jump out of its orbital and get free is about the same as the energy a lot of the photons striking it have.  Individual photons have different energies depending on their wavelength - their color.  The theory that photons have different energies and those energies are quantized meaning they can only take on certain values and not all possible values is what won Einstein the Nobel prize I referred to earlier in the thread.  It is kind of ironic that the man known as the father of Relativity, a man who was never comfortable with quantum mechanics, won the Nobel prize not for for his work on Relativity but rather for his foundational work on what became quantum mechanics.

By understanding the physics behind how atomic bonds work, how atomic structures work, and how different atoms affect the quantum nature of electrons in a material, we can engineer materials with the properties we want, including building them so that the depletion zone is as big as we want, so the energy that the material absorbs from sunlight is as wide as possible, so that the material is optimized to absorb the wavelengths of light that are most common and carry the most energy in sunlight, and does so in a way that generates the most free electrons in a way that can generate the most voltage or current.  Learning how to apply those theories in a practical way to create the materials in the best and most cost effective way allows us to create semiconductor cells that generate small amounts of electricity from sunlight.  We take a lot of those cells, stick them all on a panel, combine the electricity they generate into a large single output, and you have a panel that can generate enough electricity to be useful.  Put thirty on a roof and add an inverter that converts that electricity from direct current to alternating current compatible with what the power company sends to my house, and you have a residential PV system.

Chemistry, physics, quantum mechanics, materials science, electromagnetism: they combine to allow us to understand atomic elements, covalent bonds, valence and conduction bands, depletion zones, electric fields, the photovolatic effect, and bingo: solar panel.  There's no "theory" on how solar panels work.  There is the theory of the atomic structure of matter, the Pauli exclusion principle, the quantum nature of orbitals, the covalent theory of chemical bonds, Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, the photon nature of light, Heisenberg uncertainty, electron spin, electron pairing, current diffusion, majority carriers (I didn't cover those two, sorry), doping, annealing (heat treating doped materials so the doping atoms distribute themselves evenly throughout), electron potentials, and the technology of materials science manipulation.  That's the "theory" of solar cells.  Two hundred years of Science.

Anyone who claims to have a better one, has to start by tossing all that stuff out and coming up with their own versions.  Versions that will explain how all these things work as well as the current theories do.  And they do very, very well.

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Re: Alien life theories
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2016, 03:44:24 AM »
He, uh...he already has that. O.o ?
Wow, i... uh, have no excuse for that post. It, um, well, as soon as i see his name i just immediately start going through the post and i think i just try to blank out everything after that. Or something. Honestly i'm not sure i forgot he already had that title between reading his last post and making mine. *sigh* Moving on.
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« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2016, 04:01:02 AM »
I think the problem isn't crazy theories, but the characterization of the current scientific theories as something that is either trivial to dismiss or complete guesswork.  I don't think that is a fair claim unless you can actually demonstrate to understand them well enough to make that judgment.  And these elements of scientific knowledge are not difficult to find in 2016.  It isn't like this is 1976 and it would take hours of time to learn this stuff in a library.
No, the problem is a tendency to assume that what is at most a passing introduction or glance at a subject is equivalent to actually studying the subject. The same sort of armchair reasoning appears in virtually every post on every subject, whether it's science, law, a certain Superhero MMO, computer programming or most any other topic. It reminds me most of the armchair naturalists in Europe and England centuries back that would read a few accounts and look at a few sketches of an animal and from there produce dissertations going into great detail about that animal and its habitat that often bore no resemblance to the actual thing. (In the cases where the animal existed at all.) So no, it's not the craziness that's the problem, it's apparently believing that ad hoc extrapolating from the most superficial familiarity with a topic is the same as being an expert.
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Re: Alien life theories
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2016, 05:39:39 AM »
No, the problem is a tendency to assume that what is at most a passing introduction or glance at a subject is equivalent to actually studying the subject. The same sort of armchair reasoning appears in virtually every post on every subject, whether it's science, law, a certain Superhero MMO, computer programming or most any other topic. It reminds me most of the armchair naturalists in Europe and England centuries back that would read a few accounts and look at a few sketches of an animal and from there produce dissertations going into great detail about that animal and its habitat that often bore no resemblance to the actual thing. (In the cases where the animal existed at all.) So no, it's not the craziness that's the problem, it's apparently believing that ad hoc extrapolating from the most superficial familiarity with a topic is the same as being an expert.

There is certainly a lot of that as well on the internet, where everyone is apparently an expert in law, science, engineering, math, and kung fu.

But I think it is more than that.  I think when you don't investigate a topic deeply, when you don't try to understand a subject at a fundamental level, when you only know a scattering of superficial Cliff Notes versions of it, you tend to start seeing the subject as nothing more than a scattering of disconnected guesses that masquerade as fact.  Sure, some guy claims continents drift around and sure some other guys claim that explains a lot about the shape of the continents, but so what?  My theory that giant Kaiju bit off parts of the continents to make those shapes is just as good a theory.  Better in fact because it is more interesting.  And my ideas should be just as important as anyone else's.

So much more goes into these theories; they explain so much observations - including the fact that we can actually *observe* continents moving today with GPS.  To know if a competing theory is "better" than the established theory, you first have to know if the new theory does just as good a job of explaining our observations as the prevailing one.  If you don't even know what those are, how can you possibly know if your competing theory is any good?

Most spheres of knowledge are so much more than the superficial glance you can get from wikipedia, or in fact any internet search.  And if you try to pretend you know them when you don't, the people who do know them will spot you like a bonfire in a fireworks factory.

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Re: Alien life theories
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2016, 07:46:25 PM »
Kaiju are real?!? Does that mean that Pacific Rim was actually a documentary?  :o
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« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2016, 02:16:13 PM »
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« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2016, 03:33:28 PM »
I uh.... I got an atomic bomb. Before anything else of note so far.

I also got it form combining air + fire to get energy, and added an explosion to it. So... Yeah.

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