Author Topic: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?  (Read 7814 times)

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So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« on: February 17, 2016, 03:20:03 AM »
Which I resume is fanmade lore of this world disappearing after the servers went down.

What's the deal?  How are we supposed to respond ICly about it?  Give me some deets please!

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2016, 07:12:58 AM »
While I've been unable to log in for months as I've been estranged from my computer do to life reasons (which'll be changing on the 22nd), I'm confused by what you mean. Many of us just assumed nothing happened at all.

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2016, 08:26:22 AM »
Basically there are many versions and no one could agree on a single one of them.
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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2016, 08:37:11 AM »
Basically there are many versions and no one could agree on a single one of them.

That's pretty much the whole of it. I have a personal, cosmic-event-level explanation of what happened. Other people say nothing happened at all. That's pretty much how things have always been and probably how they'll always be with our creative community.

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2016, 09:25:43 AM »
For me the best explanation would involve "the coming storm", something simple such as it resulting in mass memory loss worldwide due to so many heroes toying with the timelines while trying to save the day...

It keeps lore in mind with "the coming storm", and affirms just how much of a threat it was to not only Paragon but the entire planet.

Or it's a Nemisis plot...

("Or")

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2016, 05:57:14 PM »
Other people say nothing happened at all.

That's my view of it.  I actually continued to RP my chars with friends after the game died, so as far as we are concerned, life continued on as normal.  For characters that conflict with that, we just assume they're from some other dimension that only thinks it's Primal Earth. :P


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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2016, 11:37:31 PM »
There is a reasonably lengthy conversation here, if you're interested in how the de facto "each person does their own thing" situation came about: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,11064.0.html (also the realities of RP just made it happen).

There was an event put together that took place on the test server, and its story is here: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,6445.0.html (with a supplemental thing for people that didn't participate in game here: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7997 ) I would argue that this story is as good as any for basing a consensus off of, since it was for an event that took place on the servers (although I didn't participate :'( ).

Regarding the literal fan-made lore disappearing, there are archives of the official forums, and the Virtue server RP wiki as well as the Titan Network Ouroborous wiki are still functional. There are likely miscellaneous RP group websites still out there, too, and the RP area on this forum.
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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2016, 02:59:50 PM »
There is a reasonably lengthy conversation here, if you're interested in how the de facto "each person does their own thing" situation came about: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,11064.0.html (also the realities of RP just made it happen).

There was an event put together that took place on the test server, and its story is here: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,6445.0.html (with a supplemental thing for people that didn't participate in game here: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7997 ) I would argue that this story is as good as any for basing a consensus off of, since it was for an event that took place on the servers (although I didn't participate :'( ).

Regarding the literal fan-made lore disappearing, there are archives of the official forums, and the Virtue server RP wiki as well as the Titan Network Ouroborous wiki are still functional. There are likely miscellaneous RP group websites still out there, too, and the RP area on this forum.

Thanks for reminding me - actually I had just looked at this in Arcana's signature the other day and thought about rereading it then (which I've now done, awesome work!!), and agree it's pretty much perfect - I know it made me feel like I was actually playing when I read it, which was quite odd - but it very much felt as though I was reading part of what a contact in game might have written - if that makes sense?

100% agree - something that retains the lore of the City and is broad enough to work for everyone is exactly what we need - Arcana's story / "the coming storm" provide just that opportunity!

(Plus Fatman didn't invite me so :P)

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2016, 05:55:03 PM »
... Invite you to what?  ???

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2016, 06:36:58 PM »
... Invite you to what?  ???
I read RP to mean you were playing a board game or something similar :D

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2016, 08:40:52 PM »
I assume that the last attack from the Rikti, when defended by Ourobouros, screwed up the space-time continuum around Paragon City so that no weapons would ever be made or fired and this event also messed up the Kheldians and other shape-changers.  The people, unable to even use knives at meals, just left.  The rest of us, unable to leave the area, do the best we can and hope CodeW Corporation can eventually make everything more normal for us  :D

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2016, 03:31:53 AM »
I read RP to mean you were playing a board game or something similar :D

In the context of MMOs, I usually take "RP" to mean either writing fiction (solo or collaboratively on forums / email / other places) or interacting in-game in-character. Paragon Chat allows the latter; anyone can write if they have the tools, and these forums have a somewhat active RP section (I suspect there are various niche blogs or fan fic sites that also have somewhat active CoH RP).

As far as CoH table top RP, there is none (a preview was released (http://www.rpgnow.com/product/2979/City-of-Heroes-RPG-Quickplay-Pack?it=1&filters=0_0_10097_0_0) but the actual thing never happened; you can naturally adapt characters to other systems, though). There was the card game (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/City_of_Heroes_Collectible_Card_Game) but that is not quite RP.
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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2016, 07:48:13 AM »
In the context of MMOs, I usually take "RP" to mean either writing fiction (solo or collaboratively on forums / email / other places) or interacting in-game in-character. Paragon Chat allows the latter; anyone can write if they have the tools, and these forums have a somewhat active RP section (I suspect there are various niche blogs or fan fic sites that also have somewhat active CoH RP).

As far as CoH table top RP, there is none (a preview was released (http://www.rpgnow.com/product/2979/City-of-Heroes-RPG-Quickplay-Pack?it=1&filters=0_0_10097_0_0) but the actual thing never happened; you can naturally adapt characters to other systems, though). There was the card game (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/City_of_Heroes_Collectible_Card_Game) but that is not quite RP.
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Although I was mostly aware of that stuff - Virtue was home away from home (Guardian), and actually I've even heard of the table top (and it not being fully realised), it's just that I for some reason pictured a table top setting when RP was mentioned...

Paragon chat (as much as I appreciate the effort - I often spend time modding games, with the very limited understanding I have of how programs work), just made me mad I wasn't able to hit granite and stomp all the things :P

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2016, 08:55:00 AM »
Nope, table top is just one form that RP can take. There's also online RP which can either be free form (which is the majority of online RP), or utilize some form of agreed upon dice system that makes it a little similar to table top, then there's also LARPing (which I've been dabbling into recently).

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2016, 07:08:00 PM »
I would be happy tto start a campaign with the fate system

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Re: So where's the information on "The fall of Paragon"?
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2016, 11:07:49 PM »
It basically turned into - different groups came up with different situations, no one agreed, nothing more was done. Even on the same server - there was three or four different versions.

The problem with RPers in general is that we are fiercely independant creatures. I kind of like to think of Paragon Chat as an odd sort of time bubble though - basically something that temporarily froze time in the moment before 'the end' or pushed things back a few months.