Tried everything, cleared out the old version, and did a clean install of the new, tried doing a clean install of the old version and updating from within that (originally updated from a patched version for I12 stuff before Mids got the new finished), updated Net 2.0, got the latest gdiplus.dll I could find, everything still gives me the messed up display. so going back to the old version with the patch, and will keep checking back with the main version everyso often hoping something randomly got working right. Should there be any other Wine users who have suffered this problem PLEASE let me know, especially if you had it and managed to fix it, but even if you didn't perhaps between us we can figure something out