Author Topic: Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??  (Read 3455 times)

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Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??
« on: April 22, 2012, 10:03:38 AM »
So I was checking about in Mids for an Ill/Time Controller, and by the end of the build, I got to 5 secs off perma PA, so I chose to go Spiritual. Only, spiritual didn't affect PA's rech at all, neither did Agility. Is this a bug that Mids has, or is it just that PA can't accept incarnate rech buffs?

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Re: Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 03:42:11 PM »
Sounds like you might be running into Enhancement Diversification. How is Phantom Army slotted, and which Alpha Abilities did you try with it?

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Re: Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 09:06:57 PM »
It has 4 Expedient Reinforcements, only two of which give a rech redux, which are the trips. It says my Rech % is at 42.40% on PA, so I don't think ED is a problem there. I planned on using Spiritual to get those last 5 seconds needed for perma, so I went for that and then PA claims its rech % is at 87.40% with Spiritual, but the rech time number hasn't moved at all, it remains the same regardless.

EDIT: Here is my build to show the issue. Also, I found that the common Ageless seems to buff my rech # for it as well, so I believe the problem may be that Spiritual doesn't count as a Global Recharge Bonus.

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« Last Edit: April 22, 2012, 11:07:33 PM by Golden Destroyer »

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Re: Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2012, 03:09:44 AM »
[...] so I believe the problem may be that Spiritual doesn't count as a Global Recharge Bonus.

Well I can tell you that much right now, at least. Alpha is not a global stat bonus to your character. It's an Enhancement that applies to all powers that benefit from the applicable effects.

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Re: Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2012, 03:50:43 AM »
Well I can tell you that much right now, at least. Alpha is not a global stat bonus to your character. It's an Enhancement that applies to all powers that benefit from the applicable effects.

I already knew that, hence my previous statement. XD

I'm just saying that I'm fairly certain this may be a bug within Mids' BECAUSE it's not global recharge, lol. While I personally have not played an ill/??? to 50 before, I know several folks who have done so and went spiritual for the recharge for PA.

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Re: Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 05:57:22 AM »
Something's definitely up, spiritual isn't budging the recharge on PA even with nothing slotted. I don't see anything obviously wrong in the database as to why it would only affect that one power.

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Re: Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2012, 07:12:57 AM »
Something's definitely up, spiritual isn't budging the recharge on PA even with nothing slotted. I don't see anything obviously wrong in the database as to why it would only affect that one power.

That's bizarre. So long as that power has Recharge_Buffs in its BoostsAllowed section and doesn't have RechargeTime in its Ignore Enhancements (aka StrengthsDisallowed), it should apply just fine.

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Re: Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 10:34:56 PM »
Sorry to necro this thread.  Figured it'd probably be better than rehashing the whole thing again in a new post.

As of 08/29/2012, this bug is still in effect.

Slotting Cardiac or Agility causes recharge of the power itself to spike 20-30%  But the actual recharge time indicated in Mids doesn't budge.

Any idea what's going on here?


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Re: Incarnate Rech Buffs on PA??
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 02:00:24 PM »
Are you saying that the Global Recharge indicator doesn't acknowledge the Spiritual recharge buff? If so, that's actually intended, since Spiritual doesn't actually give global recharge.