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Re: ...no comment. (For the journos.)
« Reply #80 on: October 24, 2012, 02:19:20 PM »
Sadly Dont think MCVuk.com will. The editor made a sarcastic tweet about it. :( Jerk.

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« Reply #81 on: October 24, 2012, 02:32:38 PM »
I saw. I hope I straightened it out.
It's difficult when people have contact forms instead of email addresses, because as much as I hope they handle formatting...apparently on that occasion, it didn't.
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Re: ...no comment. (For the journos.)
« Reply #82 on: October 24, 2012, 02:40:33 PM »
Sadly Dont think MCVuk.com will. The editor made a sarcastic tweet about it. :( Jerk.

Link?

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« Reply #83 on: October 24, 2012, 03:07:43 PM »
Just heard from starburst.  They will be running it :)
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« Reply #84 on: October 24, 2012, 03:13:31 PM »
Link?

https://twitter.com/BenParfitt/status/261027758359056384/photo/1

Bit  unprofessional of him, I think. It was obviously a format issue, and it clearly shows it showed up in his inbox via his contact form.

I apologised and offered to resend via email.  He hasn't taken me up on it, though.
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« Reply #85 on: October 24, 2012, 03:53:01 PM »
Pfft... Ok. If he's going to be unprofessional about it, then we can write off that site as unprofessional as well and not worth the time.

 

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« Reply #86 on: October 24, 2012, 03:56:53 PM »
https://twitter.com/BenParfitt/status/261027758359056384/photo/1

Bit  unprofessional of him, I think. It was obviously a format issue, and it clearly shows it showed up in his inbox via his contact form.

I apologised and offered to resend via email.  He hasn't taken me up on it, though.

Seems like the commentary on it was sarcastic anyway.

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« Reply #87 on: October 24, 2012, 03:59:27 PM »
In appreciation for all your hard work, let me buy you a Snickers bar. :)

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« Reply #88 on: October 24, 2012, 04:01:05 PM »
Oh, I can understand why he's upset.

It's much harder to copy and paste a press release and then put your byline on it, if the formatting is all messed up ;)

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Re: ...no comment. (For the journos.)
« Reply #89 on: October 24, 2012, 04:10:28 PM »
Oh, I can understand why he's upset.

It should've been obvious that wasn't the intended format though.

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« Reply #90 on: October 24, 2012, 04:15:51 PM »
I'd have thought so, but still.

Other websites have picked up on and published it, so if he's going to be a smart arse about it and not run it that's up to him. It'll just make him look out of the loop. ;)

Was mildly entertained by a couple of tweets me put up afterwards, though:

Ben Parfitt @BenParfitt
I also reject the idea that the relationship between journalists and PR has to be a confrontation one

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Re: ...no comment. (For the journos.)
« Reply #91 on: October 25, 2012, 01:00:02 AM »
You go, Rae.
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« Reply #92 on: October 25, 2012, 07:30:18 AM »
Very impressive, Rae!  ;D

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Re: ...no comment. (For the journos.)
« Reply #93 on: October 25, 2012, 09:39:44 AM »
I had my voice to the many : Kudos to you Rae for a most excellent job !
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Re: ...no comment. (For the journos.)
« Reply #94 on: October 26, 2012, 10:58:49 PM »
Good stuff rae.

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Re: ...no comment. (For the journos.)
« Reply #96 on: October 29, 2012, 09:08:37 PM »
Maybe you have to be a journalist to get it but... this hardly seems like a new thing to me...? O.o
I've seen plenty of journalists starting off a story by reminiscing about how much they loved the original game, in case of a remake or sequel - or even how the Game Studio that made it has made some great titles that they've really enjoyed in the past and they have high hopes for this game too.
I guess it had to do with the prizes she gave away? Or was the magazine/website she was writing for supposed to be big on being impartial?

(I never knew Libel was such a huge thing in the UK though  :o)

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« Reply #97 on: October 29, 2012, 09:12:29 PM »
The controversy is over the fact that she sees nothing wrong with journalists being given free stuff by the people whose product they're reviewing. My guess is that she does not feel getting gifts from people makes you less objective about their products. I assure you, my employer, who does a lot of business with the US government, feels differently, as part of the many orientation videos I had to sit through included instructions on how to avoid even hinting that you were trying to bribe government decision-makers. Common courtesy things one might do in thanks just for somebody's time are no-nos. Free expensive electronics? Right out.

It's as much about the appearance as the substance, because even the appearance of bribery is a huge ethical concern.

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« Reply #98 on: October 29, 2012, 09:18:24 PM »
It sounds like the music industry concept of "pay-o-la."

But, my read on it is "American media writers have linguistic/legal tricks that allow them to say whatever they want about her." Challenge accepted!  (Wait. I'm not an American media writer...)
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

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« Reply #99 on: October 29, 2012, 09:33:04 PM »
The controversy is over the fact that she sees nothing wrong with journalists being given free stuff by the people whose product they're reviewing. My guess is that she does not feel getting gifts from people makes you less objective about their products. I assure you, my employer, who does a lot of business with the US government, feels differently, as part of the many orientation videos I had to sit through included instructions on how to avoid even hinting that you were trying to bribe government decision-makers. Common courtesy things one might do in thanks just for somebody's time are no-nos. Free expensive electronics? Right out.

It's as much about the appearance as the substance, because even the appearance of bribery is a huge ethical concern.
Ohhhh! I think I misread something there! I thought she was giving away those prizes on behalf of the site!
But she was actually getting the shinies?  :P