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Re: Call to Action! Team Wildcard needs YOU! TF Hail Mary LFM
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2012, 09:13:38 AM »
How does this fix the problem of being unable to pitch something we don't own?
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Re: Call to Action! Team Wildcard needs YOU! TF Hail Mary LFM
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2012, 09:19:44 AM »
How does this fix the problem of being unable to pitch something we don't own?

Fan groups have always been able to pitch something that is being canceled to another venue.  The difference between us and "just another fan group" is that we have two of the Paragon Studios seniors there to set the hook if they bite.  THEY know who at NCSoft to contact and negotiate with.  THEY can put the studio back together.  Consider this the equivalent to the Browncoats having Joss Whedon on speed-dial as they pitch another Firefly movie or series to someone other than Fox.
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Re: Call to Action! Team Wildcard needs YOU! TF Hail Mary LFM
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2012, 09:37:02 AM »
OK, I've shadowed these forums enough the past few years as I've kept my eye on the community. Time to get involved.

I won't be writing a letter during the last few days of the game, but I will be drafting one in my head, and tightening it up to something worth sending in the days following it. I think Disney is a long-shot, but then if they can drop $4 bills on the SW IP, I figure it's not a question of 'can they' but rather 'will they'. I've been told I can write well- it's time to bust that out as seriously as I can.

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Re: Call to Action! Team Wildcard needs YOU! TF Hail Mary LFM
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2012, 09:51:42 AM »
How does this fix the problem of being unable to pitch something we don't own?
Because we are not selling the game.

We are selling the idea of them buying the game from those that own it.

I noticed a few saying they were not sure what to write, well, here's a few points you might want to think about for ideas, if it helps:

1. Tell them not only how much you love the game, but also how much you have spent on it over the years, including each month of subscription, plus the extra packs and points many of you will have bought, and tell them how much longer you'd like to keep subscribing and paying. :)

2. Tell them why CoH is a game anyone, but especially Disney should be proud to own, and don't be afraid to mention how cool it would be if you could buy iconic Marvel costume pieces at last because an owner now didn't have to worry about legal issues of ownership.

3. How about mentioning how diverse and unique the game is.  That you can create any character from virtually any genre, so you could make characters that paid homage to Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Storm of the X-Men, The agent from the Hitman games, Robin Hood, Rambo, Van Helsing, and The Terminator, and put them all in a team together playing in the style of any of those genres, or others.

4. Tell them how many hours you've played for, or what average hours a week you spend in game.  Disney, like most companies spend a fortune to put advertising in front of your eyes for just seconds, and here's something they could have your attention on for hours a week, where we'd be quite happy to see some Disney movie posters at the cinemas, etc.

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Re: Call to Action! Team Wildcard needs YOU! TF Hail Mary LFM
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2012, 09:59:08 AM »
I'm in. I'll pass the word to my friends and family who play and get them to write as well. We're a multigenerational bunch ranging from 16 to 66 years old (seriously, I got my mother to play and she cried over the announcement). Disney will be hearing from my husband, my brother, my mother, my best friend, my goddaughter, and me.

I'll also pass the word over globals in server broadcast until the very end.

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Re: Call to Action! Team Wildcard needs YOU! TF Hail Mary LFM
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2012, 10:05:56 AM »
  IF they did anything with cross-marketing, I would expect weekly updates of the theater marquees and billboards in game, and MAYBE Portal mishes across universes, or something like an SSA.  Those you could take or leave, and they'd have no particular relevance to the CoH lore.


And this has already occurred in games in general; it's something I could live with if it meant CoH stayed alive. If I had to rampage one of my red-siders through Cap Au and see a Star Wars billboard on a theater sign in lights, I could live with that. It might even be kind of cool.

As far as cross-universe Portal missions, it's really not that far out of bounds for CoH anyway. You're talking about a MMO that loaded down heavy with pop culture references, even among its peers in the industry. Something like Portal, which goes to enough crazy places as it is, conceptually I don't see this as a big deal.

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« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2012, 10:12:49 AM »

And this has already occurred in games in general; it's something I could live with if it meant CoH stayed alive. If I had to rampage one of my red-siders through Cap Au and see a Star Wars billboard on a theater sign in lights, I could live with that. It might even be kind of cool.


IF this came about, I can even see the billboards as not directly referencing a movie, but the iconic characters in it.  Say "Tow-Mater's Roadside Assistance" or "Cruella DeVille's Puppy-sitting Service."  Think what a gas it would be for the Disney artists to design those!
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« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2012, 10:23:43 AM »
No matter what happens, the Save/Buy COH campaign now has a beautifully written sales pitch, with some very pertinent facts and figures, case studies and information, which can be busted out quickly to any interested parties.

We know it's a million-to-one-shot, but even if Disney aren't interested, the document is something that can be tweaked, re-written and re-angled. If there's a studio or group out there who've been looking into COH and wanted a bit more info about the game, the type of people who play it, and if it's something they should be interested in considering, it's ready and waiting.

The package itself can only be an asset to the campaign whatever happens with Disney.

But I think if we make enough noise, I think we will get their attention. And they may look at it, and consider it. Which is more than will happen if we hadn't written it, hadn't got it sent, and hadn't asked them for help, and had the backing from a bunch of wonderful people.

And really, the only thing you have to lose is the price of a couple stamps, and a few bits of paper. So..hell, why not?
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« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2012, 10:26:00 AM »
I will write my letters in the morning when my brain is fully functional again, and my kiddo will get started on hers after school tomorrow (she's actually a very good writer for her age).  Would it be helpful for her to include copies of stories she's written about her character (This is how she's dealt with the shutdown.  She figures if she can't play her character anymore, she can still write about her.)?

ANYTHING that shows creativity and makes the letter personal is a plus.  Let her plead that she wants to be able to PLAY her characters again, not just write about them.
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« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2012, 10:30:45 AM »
Yup. Went there.


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« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2012, 10:33:33 AM »

And really, the only thing you have to lose is the price of a couple stamps, and a few bits of paper. So..hell, why not?

Just FYI, I'm in it for too-many-hours of writing the package (when I could have been playing the last days and /demorecording my girls), printing, realizing I forgot to delete one of the comments (ARG!), printing again, plus $54 of Express Mail postage.  All because, you know, it might work.

And Lily?  From your 'puter to God's ear....

Also, remember this?

Senior VP, Global Production, Disney Interactive Media Group
Jean-Marcel Nicolai
SaveCoH
500 S. Buena Vista St.
Burbank, CA 91521

Notice what he's in charge of?  GLOBAL PRODUCTION for Disney Interactive.  All you Brits, Germans, French---remember you used to have DEDICATED SERVERS?  Start writing!  Get your family and friends to write!  Show Disney this is a GLOBAL market! 
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« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2012, 10:44:57 AM »
I copied the post over to the HTL forums.
Now to write my own letters... x.x
Here's to hoping they will be persuaded to acquire the game!

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« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2012, 11:25:27 AM »
I'm not sure what I think about Disney running it either but its way better than losing the city.

I am also sure going to support any and every effort you guys (team wildcard, Titan team, Victoria V) are making. And thanks for trying and working so hard :)

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« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2012, 11:26:16 AM »
I have some concerns about the possibility of mixing universes, mainly because I think one of the strengths of CoH has been that it was always independent and never beholden to an external IP, which also encouraged players to create their own original characters.  But that's pretty much my only concern, and that can all be worked out later.  One of the advantages of having a game set in the modern world is that references like posters for Disney films at a cinema in Paragon City don't break the suspension of disbelief.

To me, the best news here is that -- once they decide they want one -- Disney knows how to take care of an IP.  And they understand the value of preserving a fictional world.  Their parks are more than just a collection of rides; the look and feel of everything is engineered to be part of the experience, and every interaction between staff and customer is important.  I'd think folks like this would understand that CoH is more than just a collection of missions -- putting value on the world, the story, and especially the players.

I'll be sending my letters from the UK this week.  My partner just informed me she and our daughter will be writing as well.  I expect theirs will be something to the effect of, "Please buy this game so he will SHUT UP about how nothing else is as good as CoH."
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« Reply #54 on: November 26, 2012, 11:40:06 AM »
Sounds good Just need to get stamps and get this written and sent. This is such a good idea.

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« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2012, 12:16:33 PM »
For a possible unifying image, what about the one all over Facebook?



It was made by Brian Buchanan and he said anyone is free to use it.

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« Reply #56 on: November 26, 2012, 12:31:13 PM »
I'll write them a mini-novel if you want.  Hell, I'll write a cross over between a Disney world and City of Heroes.  Whatever it takes to get the point across that it has potential.  Actually that wouldn't even be hard,  considering the whole alternate dimension and time travel aspect of CoH,  and the fact that a number of Disney villains have been powerful magic users in their own right.

BUT,  and I am sure this is something that you're taking into account,  this has to go beyond just the Save CoH and Official Boards.  Its late in the game,  and a lot of people have given up.  You're going to have to pitch this everywhere you can,  to anyone who might have strayed and to anyone who might have a sympathetic ear.

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« Reply #57 on: November 26, 2012, 12:39:15 PM »
Did the pitch mention the possibility of using the COH characters in things OTHER than the game?

Imagine a Pixar-style version of City of Heroes movie ... or a television series set in the past with Lil Liberty and her Grampa Statesman taking on evil
Uncle Recluse with Lil Liberty trying to make him see the light.

"Aw, Unca Stefan ... you really DON'T wanna blow up Terra Volta, do you?" *Big OL' Puppy eyes.*

 :)

But seriously, I do hope the potential of the characters in other venues was listed as part of the pitch...

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« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2012, 12:42:36 PM »
VicVic, not sure if you remember me or the old SG I used to be a part of, but we did some stuff with you guys a while back.  I haven't played CoH in over a year and I was still saddened with the announcement of it closing.  That said, I'm going to write letters and I'm passing this along to other friends who have played as well.

I suppose we expected to be able to come back some day, and we'd like to preserve that possibility.

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« Reply #59 on: November 26, 2012, 12:53:34 PM »
On it! Posting to friends, Sg members, family, anyone!
Letters written and sent this afternoon!