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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2012, 03:39:26 PM »
Very well written. Between this and the Korean Times, we've landed some good, solid body blows the last few days. Huge kudos to those who have been involved.

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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2012, 03:54:53 PM »
Dang, my source didn't quote it right.  I'll see if I can fix it.

It may not be word for word but the spirit of the message was captured perfectly. If it's too late to edit, at least the correct point was made.

Oh and great article. Loved it :)

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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2012, 04:13:31 PM »
Don't get me wrong--I think a brief relaunch would be great--but I think at this point it might be better to lean towards a CoH2--same classes and powers for now, new environment and graphics.  Set it maybe ten years later in an expanded Paragon City, post-"Coming Storm" and have the main plot exploring the events of that.  Maybe utilize Ouroboros to relive it.

It would be lovely to see that, but I believe such a dream is in the far future.

What I am interested in RIGHT NOW i.s the restoration of the game to playability, even with no new content or updates: a living archive, if you will. Many of us paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars toward our alts, and I believe it is only fair and right to somehow still be able to access  that work. CoX2 can wait, I just want my beloved pixels back right here and now.

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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2012, 04:30:25 PM »
It would be lovely to see that, but I believe such a dream is in the far future.

What I am interested in RIGHT NOW i.s the restoration of the game to playability, even with no new content or updates: a living archive, if you will. Many of us paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars toward our alts, and I believe it is only fair and right to somehow still be able to access  that work. CoX2 can wait, I just want my beloved pixels back right here and now.

Baby steps.

I may not have phrased my opinion right, so I'll try again.  This ^ is my goal: Restoring CoH1 right the heck now!  But I reeeeally would love to see the new publisher say, "We have restored CoH, brought it up to Issue 24, and we've got Top Men working on CoH2.  Top.  Men."
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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2012, 04:33:13 PM »
Your article made my friend cry.

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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2012, 04:35:39 PM »
Your article made my friend cry.

My friend NEVER cries .

Pat them on the back, and say the following, softly:

There's no crying in baseball.
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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2012, 04:51:39 PM »
Excellent writeup.  I laughed.  I shed a tear. I confused the heck out of 4 cats who continue to stare at me now, wondering what I'm gonna do next.

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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2012, 05:33:49 PM »
Good article. I think the most important part for publishers to take away is this:

"To be frank, City of Heroes was never really a “WoW-killer” in terms of subscription numbers or profit. Nothing is. Hopefully, publishers will soon realize that nothing will ever be able to match the runaway success of World of Warcraft. That kind of thinking has caused the shutdown of many great games, and more than a few at the hands of NCSoft — earning it the moniker of a “gamekiller” among players.

What the studios and publishers need to realize is that if they create a great niche game with a strong enough product to hold the attention of fans, they’ll still get a return on their investment. And if they take care of their loyal customers, they’ll get even more."

I wish this could be reiterated and publicized over and over again.
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« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2012, 11:21:28 PM »
Excellent writeup.  I laughed.  I shed a tear. I confused the heck out of 4 cats who continue to stare at me now, wondering what I'm gonna do next.

Oh, so you work for "Confuse-A-Cat", do you?
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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2012, 12:32:47 AM »
Oh, so you work for "Confuse-A-Cat", do you?

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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2012, 12:33:33 AM »
Awesome! :D
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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2012, 12:55:33 AM »
I may not have phrased my opinion right, so I'll try again.  This ^ is my goal: Restoring CoH1 right the heck now!  But I reeeeally would love to see the new publisher say, "We have restored CoH, brought it up to Issue 24, and we've got Top Men working on CoH2.  Top.  Men."
See, unless they told me that Matt Miller and Floyd Grubb were those "Top.  Men." I'd just be afraid that there's just Jack Emmet chained to a desk in the back of some warehouse somewhere having fits about Bosses being too easy and churning out like one progress .jpeg a year.  ('Cause, y'know... Indiana Jones reference and all...)
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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2012, 01:12:07 AM »
What the studios and publishers need to realize is that if they create a great niche game with a strong enough product to hold the attention of fans, they’ll still get a return on their investment. And if they take care of their loyal customers, they’ll get even more."

Trouble is, or from what I heard from the NC defenders over at the now-dead forums, was that for anyone in a public company to do less than aim for WoW-level subs, is to risk being accused of not looking out for the best interests of investors (who probably don't know jack about what goes on in the gaming world besides "games make money"). So, you either have to commit suicide while chasing after that mirage in the desert, or you get put through a court martial before a tribunal of shareholders.

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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2012, 01:16:09 AM »
Trouble is, or from what I heard from the NC defenders over at the now-dead forums, was that for anyone in a public company to do less than aim for WoW-level subs, is to risk being accused of not looking out for the best interests of investors (who probably don't know jack about what goes on in the gaming world besides "games make money"). So, you either have to commit suicide while chasing after that mirage in the desert, or you get put through a court martial before a tribunal of shareholders.
You know, when I hear crap like that, it just makes me think of the end of Fight-Club.
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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2012, 01:23:37 AM »
See, unless they told me that Matt Miller and Floyd Grubb were those "Top.  Men." I'd just be afraid that there's just Jack Emmet chained to a desk in the back of some warehouse somewhere having fits about Bosses being too easy and churning out like one progress .jpeg a year.  ('Cause, y'know... Indiana Jones reference and all...)

Matt and Grubb have Emmert chained up, forced to churn out PopCap-style time sinks.
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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2012, 01:44:37 AM »
You know, when I hear crap like that, it just makes me think of the end of Fight-Club.
The book or the movie?
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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2012, 02:18:56 AM »
The end of the film, with the towers of commerce crashing down.

Never read the book. Found the film to be over-hyped.
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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2012, 03:03:10 AM »
The end of the film, with the towers of commerce crashing down.

Never read the book. Found the film to be over-hyped.
The book's good.  It ends differently, though, is why I asked.
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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2012, 03:30:45 AM »
Alright, I may have to read it then. Thanks! :)
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Re: "Watching the world end" article: New York Post
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2012, 07:14:20 AM »
ebon 0_o

I don't know if you were there for the SG/Guild meeting the other day but JR actually broke his speech to say, "Whatever the hell you call him," because he got tired of going over my alt names.  I busted up laughing IRL, really cracked me up.  It's especially funny because I have so many different people calling me different things.

In DAoC people first knew me as "Cel", short for "Celatid".  Eventually I leveled a new character with the name "Kizmeti", and people started calling me Kiz.  Then I went to CoH, and I was known by Psychoti by the forum folks and Psy for short for the SGs I was a member of at the time.  To shorten this a bit:  Pirates of the Burning Sea: Adelante, WoW: Celatid,  Planetside: Psy, and then eventually I came back to CoH again with friends that called me "Adelante" or "Ade" for short.  I still play games daily with some of these friends that still call me Adelante.  Then when I joined Justice Corps on Virtue I played the character Ebonstryke most often, so people started calling me "Ebon" for short.   And now in GW2 I have people calling me "B-Cup" for Buttercupocalypse, "Ebon" for Ebonstryke if they remember that character, "Psy" if they remember, or "Adelante".


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