Author Topic: A Different Kind Of ICON Fun! (Read 25906 times)

Fennec · « **on:** January 11, 2013, 11:25:29 AM »

Now that I am getting better at demoediting, I find the need to tweak some costumes to better fit the design in my brain. So I decided to start editing the costume .textures themselves.

My first two are the Zombie shorts and the Unified Field Cape. I always wanted to wear the tattered shorts, but have smooth, regular legs and not be all zombified. As for the cape, I HATED (notice the all caps) the friggin' wrench in the design, so I got rid of it. I think it will fit more concepts now. (Regular version on the left, modified on the right.)

I am already working on more, but I would like feedback, suggestions and/or requests. Maybe those of us doing this could swap files or tips. Thanks!

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2013, 03:20:24 PM »

oh my god that looks fantastic! i've always wanted that zombie bottom!!! how can i get it?

so you're mostly replacing existing textures, not adding new texture options, and nothing with changing 3-d stuff, right? cuz that's a lot more work and might be beyond current abilities im guessing?

i've always wanted: the starshot cape without the star but retaining the stripe.

also, would it be possible to replace the data for a skin i know i'd never use for an available name like "Grey Test" [tight bottoms, male] with data from "barbarian" [bottoms with skin, female] that had been tweaked to look right on the male frame?

cuz i'd like that, and the same with "Grey Test" [tight tops, male] and "Monstrous Fur" [tight tops, male] - but tweaked to just look like decent chest hair XD

houtex · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2013, 03:58:24 AM »

NICE. Very much so. Like the results!

Fennec · « **Reply #3 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:37:24 AM »

Quote from: daveyfiacre on January 11, 2013, 03:20:24 PM

oh my god that looks fantastic!

Quote from: houtex on January 12, 2013, 03:58:24 AM

NICE. Very much so. Like the results!

Thanks guys!

Quote from: daveyfiacre on January 11, 2013, 03:20:24 PM

i've always wanted that zombie bottom!!! how can i get it?

There might be a way, stay tuned at the bottom of this post for a trial.

Quote from: daveyfiacre on January 11, 2013, 03:20:24 PM

so you're mostly replacing existing textures, not adding new texture options, and nothing with changing 3-d stuff, right? cuz that's a lot more work and might be beyond current abilities im guessing?

also, would it be possible to replace the data for a skin i know i'd never use for an available name like "Grey Test" [tight bottoms, male] with data from "barbarian" [bottoms with skin, female] that had been tweaked to look right on the male frame?

cuz i'd like that, and the same with "Grey Test" [tight tops, male] and "Monstrous Fur" [tight tops, male] - but tweaked to just look like decent chest hair XD

Yes, replacing and editing (and maybe a few new) textures, but not editing the models in any way. Now as you may (or not) know, each costume piece is usually 3 separate files (the main look, the bump map and the mask). Some also have reflection maps. The Unified Field cape above uses 7 files to create the look. With that in mind, I looked into your requests and here's what I found:

The GREY TEST chest and bottoms are one and the same. And there is only the one file, no bump, no mask, no reflect. So I'm not sure what I want to try with it yet.

The hairy chest idea is a good one and I will add it to my list of things to try.

The Barbarian male bottoms have 3 files, but modding the female into a male texture will require 4. I am working on it, but it will replace the female options and only be available in DemoEdits. Sorry. I have completed the male port of the Witchblade textures which behave the same way.

(Original female pattern on male body on left, altered version on the right)
I left pasties so the pattern could still be used with the female body, and also because I thought it was cute.

Quote from: daveyfiacre on January 11, 2013, 03:20:24 PM

i've always wanted: the starshot cape without the star but retaining the stripe.

Like this?:

(Original on left, altered on right)

If this is what you had in mind, I'd like you to be a guinea pig for me and try this link to my SkyDrive. I've never used it before, but maybe it will work.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=A062E3DFDABF6CD0!122&authkey=!AC-3a36cL_eOlCE

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #4 on:** January 14, 2013, 04:35:17 AM »

OMG YES! *squeal* now i want that metal-skin too.

Okay soooooo... I am just about the least technologically inclined person evar. I downloaded the texture library, but what am I supposed to do with it, or where do I extract it to?

also... *cringe* I cant figure out how to do a demo-edit. I was looking for a beginners guide with VERY CLEAR how-to directions but I couldn't find one [but I'll look harder]. I have another demo-edit file ready [i think?] but don't know where to put it or open it with...

I'm sorry that I'm just about the dumbest guinea pig.

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2013, 04:45:30 AM »

OH HEY look at that.

i got my first demo edit to work.

now i just have to figure out what the heck i did. ^_^ baby steps! anyway, where should i put that texture library file?

Fennec · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2013, 06:12:26 AM »

Quote from: daveyfiacre on January 14, 2013, 04:45:30 AM

anyway, where should i put that texture library file?

First, leave the .TEXTURE file inside all those folders, the game needs that hierarchy. Then open your COH folder and put the downloaded "texture_library" into the "data" folder. If you don't have a "data" folder, you can make one. Tada! ( :jazz hands: ) If you did it right, the starshot cape will have changed in the character creator.

And the download from the SkyDrive worked?

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #7 on:** January 14, 2013, 12:30:58 PM »

worked like a charm

good thing i already had a character wearing the cape. lol, buuuut yay attempt#2 worked! now to learn how to actually do the *editing* business!

ColTech · « **Reply #8 on:** January 14, 2013, 01:25:41 PM »

Very interesting stuff going on here - Congrats on this breakthrough!
from reading the posts, I'm a bit unclear on one thing, though.....
Does this technique only allow you to modify/replace costume options?
Meaning, are you simply creating a modified version of an item, but retaining the same name, etc.?
OR, dos this mean that you can actually add additional items into the interface, and expand the overall costume options?

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #9 on:** January 14, 2013, 02:15:46 PM »

i believe it's only modify/replace at the moment.

but once the ability to add is cracked [which i'm guessing also has to do with the interface], you'll start to see some awesome things happen, even if it's just new textures/skins.

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2013, 04:25:41 AM »

while waiting for Fennec to reply, i'll post what i did [semi-relevant to topic]:

-just put the barbarian bottom skin onto the male character.

i tried to fiddle with other items too but nothing seemed to work. Sparky, i believe, got one of the female hair pieces to work on a male model, in this thread: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7247.0.html and i was pretty close to getting the belladonna hair to work... but it didnt. :/ it was half inside the male head and with no hair-cape.

(image just showing barbarian brief on male, un-edited, as well as my newb progress in demo-editing to instill confidence in my ability to halp test costume edit transfers ^_^)

Fennec · « **Reply #11 on:** January 16, 2013, 12:26:15 PM »

Quote from: jgoodine on January 14, 2013, 01:25:41 PM

Very interesting stuff going on here - Congrats on this breakthrough!
from reading the posts, I'm a bit unclear on one thing, though.....
Does this technique only allow you to modify/replace costume options?
Meaning, are you simply creating a modified version of an item, but retaining the same name, etc.?
OR, dos this mean that you can actually add additional items into the interface, and expand the overall costume options?

Thanks! As Davey said, its only modify/replace. I don't know if we'll ever have the ability to add. So this a nice workaround.

Quote from: daveyfiacre on January 15, 2013, 04:25:41 AM

i tried to fiddle with other items too but nothing seemed to work. Sparky, i believe, got one of the female hair pieces to work on a male model, in this thread: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7247.0.html and i was pretty close to getting the belladonna hair to work... but it didnt. :/ it was half inside the male head and with no hair-cape.[/img]

What you can do while DemoEditing will boggle your mind when you get the hang of it.

In this image, I am using...
a) the Bella hair cape with the Barbarian hair
b) the full mantle cape harness with no cape
c) female patterns on the chest and arms
d) Silver Mantis pants
e) the female Ascension boots
f) Helmet accessories on a regular head

And now more edits! I'm calling this the Bare Skin edition.

(The male Barbarian pants / Bare Skin pants without underwear / refined foot)

The Barbarian piece was a bitch! The way the texture folds over the geometry at the perineum area caused massive issues. I had to re-edit the image over and over on a pixel by pixel basis to find the (almost) exact curvature. There is an odd artifact one pixel wide on the back side, but its not a image issue and may be caused by something in the game-code.

I remade the Bare Skin option to exclude the underwear it originally had so I could have patterns over bare skin, an option the females got but the males didn't. This one will probably have the most uses for me personally.

And I always hated the way the bare feet look. I couldn't do much, but it looks a little more like a real foot now.

More to come!

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #12 on:** January 16, 2013, 03:08:35 PM »

nice! i'd be interested in that bare skin with patterns option

i can has that?

and i got the fish[piranha] head detail to work on a regular head, but they kinda float a little bit which, im guessing, is from the shape of the piranha-head. same line for male and female maybe? lol
N_Male_Piranha_Hair.GEO/GEO_Hair_Piranha_01 !X_Head_Piranha_01 !Piranha_Head_01_Mask 00316131 00c0c063

to get the belladonna hair cape, did you just put [this] after the hair line? i cant seem to make it work :/
capes/V_Enemy/Signature/Belladona/Bella_Hair.fx

for bare feet, i always used the zombie option because it was shaped most like an actual foot [in my opinion, aside from the claw toe front lol] and i just overlooked the skin/texture. :/ maybe you can tinker with that for the bare feet?

Fennec · « **Reply #13 on:** February 26, 2013, 10:09:06 AM »

Back, finally!

Okay davey, I checked out the zombie feet, but they look like chicken legs, so awful. But I do have a little something for you... HAIRY CHEST!

Monstrous Fur option (original on left)

I also (mostly) fixed the problem that the Steampunk and Imperial Dynasty faces had. They were originally bump-mapped, which is what made them look so sunken and plastic. I toned the bump-map down about 75%, but I had to leave some bumpiness as the images were created with it in mind and still looked a little funny with none at all. (Again, originals on left)

Female Victorian Steampunk

Male Victorian Steampunk

Female Classic Steampunk

Male Classic Steampunk

Female Imperial Dynasty

Next post has the reason it took me so long to post again...

Fennec · « **Reply #14 on:** February 26, 2013, 10:42:03 AM »

CAPES!

I had such fun with the Unified Field Facade and the Sharshot cape daveyfiacre requested, that I tackled all of them! (Those with patterns, not the really new ones, well, not yet anyway

)

(P.S. With all of these, the original is on the left, the name of the cape pattern is on top and the name of the actual .texture file is on the bottom in < > so you can pick and choose if you wish.)

First the 3 listed under the cape drop-down:

And now all the patterns! (listed under Long Cape or Short Cape):

It was a very fun exercise as I tried my hardest to have the new cape use inspiration from either the name or the style of the original cape. I threw in some humorous ones (i.e. Jurassic Park and Diablo), some that were needed for certain concepts (like playing cards or music notes) and, of course, some for groups within the game (Midnighters, PPD, etc.). I hope you like them.

And now... how to get them...

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=A062E3DFDABF6CD0!123&authkey=!AJD-NTWtLNykMzc

The file contains all the capes, the faces, the monstrous chest, the new feet, the metallic outfit, the barbarian bottoms, the nude bottoms and the zombie bottoms. (PS, davey, the name of your cape changed to Fortune as it resembled that one the most and I wanted to do something cool with the name Sharshot.)

To anyone who decides to download the file, please send me a PM so I can gauge the level of interest in these creations. Thanks!

SerialBeggar · « **Reply #15 on:** February 27, 2013, 12:35:54 AM »

Wow! Really nice designs. And talk about "butt capes"!

Several really draw the eye to them.

blackjak · « **Reply #16 on:** February 27, 2013, 02:42:18 AM »

Damn, but I always wanted the snake body!

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #17 on:** February 27, 2013, 03:31:33 PM »

oh gosh FANTASTIC FENNEC really fantastic work you've done!

before i download it, would there be a way for me to pick and choose which capes are swapped before i do it? or have you found a way to add yet? :/ im guessing not since my starshot became fortune XD. :EDIT: [ooooohhhh i can just delete the texture file by the name before i swap them in?]

omggg i want most of those capes, but a few i prefer the original

do you think you could maybe [when you find time] try to make the newer cape with leaves on it into just one or a few giant leaves? the leaf patchwork was always meh, IMO.

FENNEC you're my herooooooo.

Megajoule · « **Reply #18 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:21:29 PM »

Where does one find these textures? I'd be tempted to make some small edits of my own...

Arachnion · « **Reply #19 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:34:21 PM »

Quote from: Megajoule on February 27, 2013, 05:21:29 PM

Where does one find these textures? I'd be tempted to make some small edits of my own...

Inside the pigg files for the game.

You will need a pigg viewer.

This is the one I use, uploaded by me (I didn't make it):

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D0133125_936_14176272

Extract the contents of this rar to any folder, then run the exe. It works fine on Windows XP, but seven and up is very "iffy"

No clue about macs. Then you'll have to extract the textures from the piggs, which you can do in this pigg viewer, by turning the files into .bmps

Starhammer · « **Reply #20 on:** July 04, 2013, 12:10:24 AM »

These are awesome! Thanks for all the work on these. So now I have to wonder... any chance you could extract a TIE Interceptor from SWG and use it to overwrite one of the lesser used cars?

The Fifth Horseman · « **Reply #21 on:** July 04, 2013, 10:29:12 AM »

No. These things are just texture swaps, not model replacements. IIRC we don't have tools for that yet.

Mantic · « **Reply #22 on:** July 04, 2013, 05:21:24 PM »

Here's something you're free to use, though it's still needing a new bump map in-game at this point:

Here's the *.texture file rar'd up with directory structure.

If I recall correctly, this same file is referenced by both male and female models now.

It's an old edit so I forget a bit, like what the proper DDS settings were and all. If you're familiar with the original alien face texture you can see that I aligned everything to it as precisely as possible. The sad thing is, I used a deprecated version for all my alignments and now it doesn't match up to the new bump map at all, and I don't even know where that bump map is to fix it. :/ The alpha in this file is just a color mask. I used it to mask out the eyes so they stay brown and to give the high points of the topology a little highlight.

If anyone knows what file is referenced for the alien face bump map, and what pigg it is in, point me to it and I'll make it actually match this.

That's really why I thought to post this texture. Now that nobody is worrying about violating their license agreement, maybe folks can pool experience to figure out more about this stuff. I never had anyone to ask when things messed up, and it seems almost every time I go in to muck with the *.texture files the thing is using a different DDS compression setting. Or something else would mess up for no obvious reason.

One of the big problems I ran into was reflection masks. Maybe I just don't have the right DDS tool, but I never could figure it. Every time I modified a file with a reflection mask the game would flip the reflection upside-down. If anyone knows how to make that work right, I should have an old replacement for the metallic textures here somewhere that removes the indented bands and adds a new bump map for a clean Silver Surfer type base texture.

Personally, I wish it were possible to bring the old faces up to the level of the steampunk and sci fi textures, rather than just downgrading them to be consistent. Alas, though I'd be keen on tackling that, I never saw analogous displacement maps for the old face textures in the piggs.

The devs were able to cheat using higher resolutions on most of the newer assets, too.

MWRuger · « **Reply #23 on:** July 05, 2013, 09:37:18 PM »

This exactly where I see the Icon project going ultimately. A very cool user run mod site (Titan maybe?) where you can read, review and download mods for you over version of COH on a private server where you and your friends could play. Custom missions, maps, zones, costume pieces and maybe even new power sets.

Codewalker · « **Reply #24 on:** July 05, 2013, 09:51:51 PM »

Quote from: Mantic on July 04, 2013, 05:21:24 PM

If anyone knows what file is referenced for the alien face bump map, and what pigg it is in, point me to it and I'll make it actually match this.

It's in the same place as the texture itself.

texture_library/V_PLAYERS/AVATAR/Male/Face/CoH_Converted/v_face_skin_alien_01.texture
texture_library/V_PLAYERS/AVATAR/Male/Face/CoH_Converted/v_face_skin_alien_01_bump.texture

(the v_ one is the one that's used by the actual Alien face. It got converted when all the head geometries were changed to use the higher-poly CoV ones).

Mantic · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2013, 10:53:54 PM »

Thanks Codewalker!

As I mentioned, this is an old edit and I don't recall entirely what went wrong, except that the bump map was misaligned. Maybe that's what I mis-referenced. Will see what I can do about it now, since the texture was pretty effective otherwise.

So, I found the metallic chest texture from waybackwhen that had issues and after opening files up in a hex editor and comparing headers I finally figured out the correct settings. It works now.

So here's that, rar'd up with directory structure as before.

As you can see, it not only has the bands removed but there's new muscle contour, sporting a clearly defined six-pack and other anatomical definition. Unfortunately, now that it actually works right I can see there's a pretty big error: the biceps starts halfway up the deltoids. Other than that I guessed fairly well. Once I've gone through and given the rest of the metallic textures this Silver Surfer treatment I'll come back and fix those biceps.

And since crocko seems to be on the fritz, here's an alternate link for the ape face, too.

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #26 on:** July 07, 2013, 12:46:24 PM »

oooh i look forward to the metallic textures!

Mantic · « **Reply #27 on:** July 07, 2013, 04:42:31 PM »

I wasn't going to do this first but I went ahead and did a patch on the metallic chest; the delt pops more and though the connections are still a little higher than the polygonal geometry all the way around the base of the delt it's not too noticable now.

Here's a comparison of the original to the new one:

And here's the new file. If it doesn't appear to work at first try moving your data directory and moving it back, or the actual files, while the game is running. I've noticed that sometimes the files in the data directory don't all get precedence at first.

More to come.

blackjak · « **Reply #28 on:** July 07, 2013, 10:29:52 PM »

Somewhat of an off topic question, but how did you get the snake body on the first page? Icon in npc mode?

Arachnion · « **Reply #29 on:** July 07, 2013, 10:36:46 PM »

Quote from: blackjak on July 07, 2013, 10:29:52 PM

Somewhat of an off topic question, but how did you get the snake body on the first page? Icon in npc mode?

I think that's an NPC.

Wasn't there an enemy group that had some female snakepeople?

The Fifth Horseman · « **Reply #30 on:** July 07, 2013, 11:39:51 PM »

NPC model. The group was called Talons of Vengeance: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Talons%20of%20Vengeance

blackjak · « **Reply #31 on:** July 08, 2013, 12:17:42 AM »

oh yeah....Darn. I have a character I made up a long time ago that has a snake body...

daveyfiacre · « **Reply #32 on:** July 08, 2013, 03:30:32 AM »

yeah, sorry. i had just summoned an NPC for that screenie.

but in icon you can /be_npc Stheno and that's pretty fun to slither around and jump and what not. xD

believe me, if there was any way to load the snake tail lower-body half i would just about die from glee.

blackjak · « **Reply #33 on:** July 08, 2013, 03:38:43 AM »

If it's available as an npc, it's probably not out of the question. Better brains than mine would have to figure that one out though.

Sin Stalker · « **Reply #34 on:** July 08, 2013, 07:34:31 AM »

These are awesome!

I wish CoH would have allowed community costume pieces. These are so much better.

MWRuger · « **Reply #35 on:** July 09, 2013, 07:35:06 PM »

Hey Mantic! This is awesome stuff!

I know it's not an issue yet, but give some consideration on how this could be deployed ala a Mod. I am also thinking standardized format for pics illustrating the costume pieces and the like. I'm raising this here because this is the first place I've seen the kind of activity that might conceivably become fodder for a community mods for Icon.

I'm thinking a self extracting zip file that loads the pieces where they need to be and either updates the costume piece list or replaces it. (updating would make the file smaller I expect).

It would also need to check that it isn't overwriting a current costume piece without the user's knowledge. It would be relatively easy to have it add a trailing digit for an additional piece. Example: A A replacement Cyberpunk.armor.leg could be renamed Cyberpunk 02.armor.leg.

Anyway, just a thought.

Nebularian · « **Reply #36 on:** August 25, 2013, 06:02:10 PM »

I think this one is going to be beyond me. I got a pigg viewer (as stated, the one listed earlier is iffy for Windows 7 so I downloaded the PiggViewer from here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/piggviewer/?source=dlp (I guess it was originally called Hero Viewer)

I've gotten to the point where I can view piggs....but I have no clue of where to look for what I want. I just want to look at the basic emblems and see if I can alter a few of them. Just can't seem to figure out where they are.

LKN-351 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 28, 2013, 06:03:37 PM »

If you are looking for which piggs to view they would be under the 'stage' piggs. I was doing pretty much what you are speaking of a while back, but I don't recall which pigg had them specifically... try stage1c or stage1d. I'm fairly certain that the majority of the emblems are in the same pigg, but it's been a while since I've messed with it so that could be wrong.

If you had already gotten that far and just can't find them while viewing the pigg archives they would be under supershared.

Also, Tonys pigg viewer is really good for finding lost pieces since it opens all of the piggs at once and when you select the piece your lookin for it shows you which pigg it's located in specifically.

Fennec · « **Reply #38 on:** September 19, 2013, 06:42:40 AM »

Sorry there haven't been any updates in a while. Life gets in the way sometimes. I am currently working on a collection of new patterns, but in the meantime, a little something to tide you over...

It is time to choose your team! You can be WONDERful! Awesomely SUPER! Really MARVELous! AUTOmatically DECEPTive! And even FANTASTIC! You won't need your FLASHlights or LANTERNs, because even in the DARK NIGHT, a sharp-eyed HAWK will find that X-Marks the spot! SHIELD yourself from the LEGIONs of HYDRAs and SPIDERs! You'll QUASAR in your boots! (Yeah, that last one was really bad, but whatcha gonna do?

)

Get it here:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=73B2B52F37816750!128

Contents:
19 chest emblems
Replacing GREEK UPPERCASE Alpha thru Rho and Psi & Omega
(1 designed exclusively for the female body type)

Spoiler for Hidden:

4 capes
Replacing INSECT 2, INSECT 3, LACE and TRANSLUCENT 1
(1 designed to be used with short cape)

Spoiler for Hidden:

1 belt
Replacing JEWEL
(not available for female body type)

Spoiler for Hidden:

_{I wish to state that these images were created by me, but based off the copyrighted work of others. I share these with the understanding that they are for the downloaders' own personal use and enjoyment. I am not, nor should you, attempting to seek any sort of profit from their use. They are presented solely by me and I am not in any way, shape or form, affiliated with the creators or owners of this website. I believe these images to be in the realm of "fair play," but will, of course, stop their distribution if the copyright owners wish and contact me to say so.}

Kyriani · « **Reply #39 on:** September 19, 2013, 01:50:27 PM »

Quote from: Fennec on September 19, 2013, 06:42:40 AM

Sorry there haven't been any updates in a while. Life gets in the way sometimes. I am currently working on a collection of new patterns, but in the meantime, a little something to tide you over...

It is time to choose your team! You can be WONDERful! Awesomely SUPER! Really MARVELous! AUTOmatically DECEPTive! And even FANTASTIC! You won't need your FLASHlights or LANTERNs, because even in the DARK NIGHT, a sharp-eyed HAWK will find that X-Marks the spot! SHIELD yourself from the LEGIONs of HYDRAs and SPIDERs! You'll QUASAR in your boots! (Yeah, that last one was really bad, but whatcha gonna do? )

Get it here:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=73B2B52F37816750!128

Contents:
19 chest emblems
Replacing GREEK UPPERCASE Alpha thru Rho and Psi & Omega
(1 designed exclusively for the female body type)
Spoiler for Hidden:

4 capes
Replacing INSECT 2, INSECT 3, LACE and TRANSLUCENT 1
(1 designed to be used with short cape)
Spoiler for Hidden:

1 belt
Replacing JEWEL
(not available for female body type)
Spoiler for Hidden:

_{I wish to state that these images were created by me, but based off the copyrighted work of others. I share these with the understanding that they are for the downloaders' own personal use and enjoyment. I am not, nor should you, attempting to seek any sort of profit from their use. They are presented solely by me and I am not in any way, shape or form, affiliated with the creators or owners of this website. I believe these images to be in the realm of "fair play," but will, of course, stop their distribution if the copyright owners wish and contact me to say so.}

You should totally do Jean Grey's Phoenix chest emblem for male and female!

batqueen · « **Reply #40 on:** September 20, 2013, 01:25:56 AM »

As much as I love my original design concept toons, I am really going to have some fun with these revised chest emblems. Yaaay! and thank you.

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