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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27600 on: May 24, 2017, 10:29:21 PM »
Well, I don't know if you saw it, but years ago, fresh after the closure, Jack suggested NCSoft call him or maybe it was Positron - and he would see what he could do to persuade them.

It's been a long time, so the details aren't fresh for me.

But, basically Jack was willing to use whatever pull he had to get them to sell or release the IP.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27601 on: May 25, 2017, 01:47:30 AM »
Spot the hero in the mix. Dunno if this is old news or not, but I just found out about it. I have mixed feelings on it. Nice to see one of the heroes again, but not in the way I'd like :-/ Doesn't look good for the potential IP purchase as well.

This has been discussed. Frankly, I consider it an insult to the CoH fans. "We don't care enough about you to give you your game back, but we'll exploit one of its most recognizable faces in our blatant cash-grab fad chasing MOBA attempt!"

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« Reply #27602 on: May 25, 2017, 01:57:09 AM »
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« Reply #27603 on: May 25, 2017, 10:17:28 PM »
How do you know this, has he mentioned anything that I've missed?

Sorry, been away for the past week - but it was just a response from Jack at some convention a while back if I recall correctly.

Still, at this point it's almost our best hope...

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« Reply #27604 on: May 26, 2017, 01:37:55 AM »
Ya know...I have the "Level Up" sound as my text tone, and the Atlas Park theme for my ring tone.  So, I am reminded multiple times a day that there was this thing called City of Heroes, and how much, despite all evidence to the contrary, including my own gut feeling; I still hold out hope that this game will return.  If not in its previous form, then in something VERY closely resembling it. 

My fear with the successor projects is that, while they might capture the look/mechanics of the game, there was something more to it that really was greater than the sum of its parts, and that aspect of it will be damned near impossible to replicate.  Like looking at a replica of the Statue of David, or any other special thing you can think of, you can see it is a very good imitation, but an imitation none the less.  I am certainly more than willing to give one, or all of them as close to an unbiased try as I can, but that nagging fear that there is something crucial, but at once undefinable, missing would be there until proven otherwise.

I played the game from go-live to shut-down.  One of my sons practically grew up playing it, and he misses it as much as I do.  Its just too bad that money, and business reputation (in the case of NCSoft in particular), have to be the overriding concern in all of this.  If the love of this game, and folks devotion to it were a consideration, we would have had it back minutes after it closed.  As it is, those things are for us to cherish, and for them to disregard.

Wow!  That turned into a sentimental, and nostalgic rant before I knew what I was doing.  Just another example of how much a miss it, and want it back.  The nice thing is, I know I am not alone here.
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27605 on: May 26, 2017, 07:54:54 AM »
Ya know...I have the "Level Up" sound as my text tone, and the Atlas Park theme for my ring tone.  So, I am reminded multiple times a day that there was this thing called City of Heroes, and how much, despite all evidence to the contrary, including my own gut feeling; I still hold out hope that this game will return.  If not in its previous form, then in something VERY closely resembling it. 

My fear with the successor projects is that, while they might capture the look/mechanics of the game, there was something more to it that really was greater than the sum of its parts, and that aspect of it will be damned near impossible to replicate.  Like looking at a replica of the Statue of David, or any other special thing you can think of, you can see it is a very good imitation, but an imitation none the less.  I am certainly more than willing to give one, or all of them as close to an unbiased try as I can, but that nagging fear that there is something crucial, but at once undefinable, missing would be there until proven otherwise.

I played the game from go-live to shut-down.  One of my sons practically grew up playing it, and he misses it as much as I do.  Its just too bad that money, and business reputation (in the case of NCSoft in particular), have to be the overriding concern in all of this.  If the love of this game, and folks devotion to it were a consideration, we would have had it back minutes after it closed.  As it is, those things are for us to cherish, and for them to disregard.

Wow!  That turned into a sentimental, and nostalgic rant before I knew what I was doing.  Just another example of how much a miss it, and want it back.  The nice thing is, I know I am not alone here.

That's my feeling too. Anytime I see "NCSoft" I just go NO. I certainly hope one of the games when they come out do well, I just hope we aren't so jaded from waiting so long.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27606 on: May 26, 2017, 12:33:01 PM »
Anytime I see "NCSoft" I just go NO.
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« Reply #27607 on: May 26, 2017, 04:07:13 PM »
This has been discussed. Frankly, I consider it an insult to the CoH fans. "We don't care enough about you to give you your game back, but we'll exploit one of its most recognizable faces in our blatant cash-grab fad chasing MOBA attempt!"

I kinda like that they used the storyline Paragon was planning on using for the Coming Storm for Statesman's (actually Tyrant's) backstory, but at the same time it makes me so angry.

"Yeah, the big Coming Storm storyline that the game was building up to for its entire lifetime, and which was about to go live in the next couple of issues?  It happened and you don't get to participate in it.  Here, play this reformed villain instead."

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27608 on: May 26, 2017, 05:56:06 PM »
Sorry, been away for the past week - but it was just a response from Jack at some convention a while back if I recall correctly.

Still, at this point it's almost our best hope...

Thanks, Duane put a link up  :)

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27609 on: May 26, 2017, 07:40:40 PM »
Thanks, Duane put a link up  :)

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Am pretty sure when it's new, debunked myth or recycled coh closure lore. I need a life.


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« Reply #27610 on: May 26, 2017, 08:10:54 PM »
I have spent so much time reading every post, opinion and article I
Am pretty sure when it's new, debunked myth or recycled coh closure lore. I need a life.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27611 on: May 26, 2017, 08:20:37 PM »
are negotiations really still underway?

it's been almost two years since the last "update", I don't want the dream to be dead but this worries me.
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27612 on: May 26, 2017, 08:38:41 PM »
reading back a bit, I stand corrected

got a little more hope brewing, I can only hope that it happens sooner rather than many years down the line...
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27613 on: May 26, 2017, 10:13:28 PM »
What's a Space Starfish bent on world domination/destruction going to do with his free time?

I would like to say that the Justice League is really the problem and you would see things from my point of view if it was not for them.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27614 on: May 26, 2017, 11:13:17 PM »
I would like to say that the Justice League is really the problem and you would see things from my point of view if it was not for them.

Wait...Batman!?!

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27615 on: May 27, 2017, 05:35:08 PM »
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27616 on: May 27, 2017, 07:54:30 PM »
Well, I don't know if you saw it, but years ago, fresh after the closure, Jack suggested NCSoft call him or maybe it was Positron - and he would see what he could do to persuade them.

It's been a long time, so the details aren't fresh for me.

But, basically Jack was willing to use whatever pull he had to get them to sell or release the IP.

I think it's, to him, his best game he'd made, and he realizes that.  While he'll say CO is also a good game he's happy about, I can't help but get a feeling from another off-cuff remark of his on facebook that to him it's a game he's not particularly happy with how it turned out.  But then a lot of devs have that; they got one awesome game they can have credit for and one they don't like much.

I do wonder though what'd have happened to CoH under a PWE cryptic, I mean the neglect and lock-box spam CO has endured was to me a fate worst than shutdown these days.
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« Reply #27617 on: May 27, 2017, 11:41:33 PM »
I think it's, to him, his best game he'd made, and he realizes that.  While he'll say CO is also a good game he's happy about, I can't help but get a feeling from another off-cuff remark of his on facebook that to him it's a game he's not particularly happy with how it turned out.  But then a lot of devs have that; they got one awesome game they can have credit for and one they don't like much.

I do wonder though what'd have happened to CoH under a PWE cryptic, I mean the neglect and lock-box spam CO has endured was to me a fate worst than shutdown these days.
Alex, you know the answer to that question. they would have destroyed what made City of. as good as it was. With next to no meaningful additions to the game, or as co is doing, just puttering along. I do not think he really meant co was a good game, it had so much more potential then City of. had, and he pancaked it away for stupid reasons.
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #27618 on: May 28, 2017, 03:56:38 PM »
Moderation note:  The thread is a few posts shorter.

You may now continue your regularly scheduled discussion, but please do so without the debate about Godwin's favorite National Socialists of WWII.

And I just made the thread even shorter.  What he said.  Please move on.
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« Reply #27619 on: May 28, 2017, 05:16:51 PM »
Digression:
And I just made the thread even shorter.  What he said.  Please move on.
Removing National Socialist referencing posts? i could 'not see' that coming.


On topic:
i'll admit the complete lack of any official word from the buyout team for over two years is somewhat disheartening, but i remain optimistic that we'll have something in the vein of CoH to play eventually. i've got plenty of other co-op games (computer and tabletop) to keep me busy in the meantime.
So far so good. Onward and upward!